Another Bad Idea That Won’t Stay Dead

It sometimes seems that bad ideas are some of the very longest lived ideas.

In particular one spectatularly bad idea and it’s bastard children comes to mind:

Social Progress: The notion that Humanity and the Societies that Humanity produces are destined to proceed along a defined path leading to an ideal condition.

Even a rather cursory understanding of history reveals that for the pious hope and damned lie that it is.

The children of this belief have been nothing short of disastrous, yet they too have the undying support of their proponents. These children are of course the “ism’s” which stacked bodies like cord wood over the twentieth century and which seem on track to carry on the slaughter into the twenty-first century:

Socialism (which begat)
Communism (and it’s hated twin)
Fascism

All of which are alive and doing ill today.

Add to this list secessionism.

This epically bad idea was last championed by the Democrats of the 1850’s and 1860’s. One might think that the Civil War that resulted (and which remains the bloodiest war in our long history of bloody wars) put paid to this monumentally bad idea back in 1865. I held out some faint hope that the history to which I allude was not about to be repeated when the initial proposal for CalExit went down to defeat. It seems my hopes have once again been disappointed.

“Calexit” Referendum Question Is One Step Closer To Appearing On 2018 Ballot

By Tyler Durden, ZeroHedge

A group that is trying to organize a vote on whether California should secede from the US has received permission to begin gathering signatures to force an independence referendum that, if successful, would amount to the first serious attempt at secession by a US state since the Civil War.

According to the Sacramento Bee, California Attorney General Xavier Becerra issued an official ballot measure title and summary to the “California Autonomy From Federal Government” initiative, which can now start gathering signatures needed to include the referendum question – known informally as “Calexit” – on the ballot during the 2018 midterm elections.

As I wrote back in January and February of this year here on Wizbang, Secession 2.0 is a stupendously bad idea on both the practical and theoretical levels before one considers what a twenty-first century American Civil War II would look like.

Follow the links for my earlier recounting of precisely why this is such a bad idea, I see no need to repeat them here.

May God Damn these idiots, and spare our Republic.

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  • Retired military

    Democrats don’t like it when they lose and want to take their ball and go home.
    Personally I would like to see SD, SF and LA secede. The rest of Calif would then vote in republicans, Calif 55 EV would become about 30ish and instead of going to dems would go to republicans. As an added plus we wouldn’t have to deal with Pelosi or Waters ever again.

    • I’d far rather see California broken up into at least five states… And the Ninth Circuit Circus split into two new circuits.

      • If we split the state in two, according to liberal/ conservative lines, conservatives automatically pick up two seats in the US Senate. Liberals wouldn’t like that. Five states might not be doable at all. And secession is a non starter. California is too firmly attached to the federal government teat to ever think of dislodging.

        • Mike,

          Two states would not be sufficient. Look at the county by county affiliations:

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d94871c6025de7f438a9494211ceb15034a0ecae2f5c98b799423775328eb669.png

          I also support the State of Jefferson proposals.

          • IMHO, I don’t think those red counties either have the wherewithal or would be willing to fund the infrastructure needed for four additional states. Some of those rural counties are pretty broke. Put me down for two!

          • A lot of those red counties are serious players in agriculture and have been seriously screwed by Sacramento. As stand alone states they would be far more likely to create policies less restrictive on their actual revenue generating industries.

            The Sierra Club is a creature of the blue counties…

          • No argument that the red counties would like to get rid of the overbearing hand of Sacramento. And there is money in agriculture, but not enough to fund a bare minimum of infrastructure for four additional states, unless they are voluntarily willing to tax themselves at the same or higher confiscatory rates. A lot of the state’s revenue comes from those blue counties.

          • Each state must have at least one representative and congressional districts cannot cross state lines…

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/95d558ee180d60a965b760d5ee34426d9bfda4853dbe5b4ffeb13701117fbc32.png

            It’s full of win I tell you…

          • And if wishes were fishes, we’d all have a fry!

  • jim_m

    I personally am looking forward ot the advent of a People’s Republic of California. I think it would be helpful to the rest of America to see the ability of socialism to turn a prosperous state into a third world cesspool of poverty and violence. My only concern would be for the mass graves that the leftists would almost certainly create to silence the opposition.

    • I’d prefer to avoid that outcome, just as I would like to avoid the Second American Civil War.

      • jim_m

        http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/calexit-ever-happened-happen-next-meme?utm_source=FBLC&utm_medium=FB&utm_campaign=LC

        With California registering illegals at the current rate the next election could very well be determined by the votes of a foreign nation. The left doesn’t care as long as a foreign power puts them in charge to destroy the republic.

        Fuck it if there is a civil war. The left wanted it (again). Time to water the tree of liberty.

        • WHO’S THE BUSTER

          “With California registering illegals at the current rate the next
          election could very well be determined by the votes of a foreign nation.”

          I am unaware of them registering illegals to vote. Still waiting for proof of the 3.5 million from the last election.

          • The things you are unaware of are exceeded only by the things you know which just ain’t so.