About That So-Called “Southern Heritage”

Americans are routinely told that the Confederate flag represents Southern heritage. If that is true, then I want no part of Southern heritage. That is because the Confederate flag originated as a symbol of people who had declared war against the USA and who killed American soldiers. The reason that they fought against the USA was in order to keep black Americans enslaved.

In case someone doubts that reason, I will quote from the Corner Stone speech given by Confederacy vice-president Alexander H. Stephens:

“The new [Confederate] constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the “rock upon which the old Union would split.” He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.” Our new [Confederate] government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition.”

The Southern culture of the antebellum period revolved around the enslavement of black Americans. The dependency on slavery even extended to the white southern clergy, who owned slaves, too. As an excuse for their embrace of slavery, white southern clergymen would claim that Noah’s curse on his grandson Canaan (mistakenly called the “curse of Ham”) justified the subjugation of black Americans. Alexander H. Stephens refers to that claim in his Corner Stone speech.

After the Civil War ended, white southerners continued to use the “curse of Ham” excuse for practicing anti-black racism. Indeed, the Southern Baptist Convention, the South’s largest church denomination, promoted the “curse of Ham” excuse.

It was not until 1995 that the SBC formally denounced the sins of slavery and racism. It declined to formally denounce the “curse of Ham” excuse when it passed its 2017 resolution that formally denounces the alt-right. The original version of the resolution contains this paragraph:

“WHEREAS, the roots of White Supremacy within a “Christian context” is based on the so-called “curse of Ham” theory once prominently taught by the SBC in the early years—echoing the belief that God through Noah ordained descendants of Africa to be subservient to Anglos—which provided the theological justification for slavery and segregation. The SBC officially renounces the “curse of Ham” theory in this Resolution …”

The version of the resolution that the SBC passed does not contain the above-quoted paragraph. A black pastor wrote that paragraph. Can you guess the skin color of the people who removed it?

Anyway, the “curse of Ham” excuse was used by white southerners back during the civil-rights era, when they revived the use of the Confederate flag to symbolize their opposition to black Americans having the same rights as white Americans.

The Confederate flag has always symbolized a heritage of anti-black racism. That heritage is nothing to be proud of. So, if the Confederate flag truly represents modern Southern heritage, then there is something seriously wrong with modern Southern heritage.

Thankfully, modern Southern heritage isn’t the heritage symbolized by the Confederate flag. What modern southerners need is something that symbolizes them, not their racist ancestors.

The Straw Men of Confederacy Apologists
Regarding Confederate Monuments
  • “people who had declared war against the USA” Slept through history classes, civics classes or both, did you David? Since the South was part of the USA, did they declare war against themselves, or are you just confused? The balance of your post suggests the latter.

  • Brett Buck

    Americans are routinely told that the Confederate flag represents Southern heritage. If that is true, then I want no part of Southern heritage.

    That’s OK, they want no part of you. So everything works out.

  • Retired military

    “The Confederate flag has always symbolized a heritage of anti-black racism”

    NOT TRUE. The stars and bars was a battle flag.

    Hey David. How do you feel about in MASS they should put a billboard by every bridge that says “Sen Ted Kennedy left a girl to drown in his car beneath a bridge just like this one”

    “Anyway, the “curse of Ham” excuse was used by white southerners back during the civil-rights era, when they revived the use of the Confederate flag to symbolize their opposition to black Americans having the same rights as white Americans.”

    You forgot to mention that those folks that did this were your good friends the democrats. In addition, you failed to address any of the valid points I made in the other thread. Typical liberal. Dont want to address perfectly valid points. Instead we get smoke and mirrors and strawmen.

  • Retired military

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._William_Fulbright

    James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto.

    Fulbright signed The Southern Manifesto in opposition of the Supreme Court’s historic 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision.[10] With other southern Democrats, Fulbright filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as well as voting against the 1965 Voting Rights Act.[

    So when is David going to call for the medal of freedom for Fulbright to be rescended or that his name be stricken from buildings?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  • Vagabond661

    We honestly don’t give a fuck what you think should happen, David.

  • Retired military

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant
    i” The war is over, the Rebels are our countrymen again, and the best sign of rejoicing after the victory will be to abstain from all demonstrations in the field.” – General Grant
    Upon stopping his men from cheering after Lee’s surrender at Appomattox Court House (9 April 1865).

    Gee maybe some people (Cough cough David cough cough) need to learn that lesson from US Grant. He was emminently qualified to teach it.

  • yetanotherjohn

    When your right, you are right. We should also do away with democracy, after all the origins of democracy comes from the Greek city states that had slaves. We can’t have a republican form of government, that came from the Romans who had slaves. So the obvious solution is to appoint me lord high tugboat and supreme leader for life. I have never owned (or even rented) slaves. As my first act as benevolent ruler of all, I declare open season on liberals with no bag limit.

  • Paul Hooson

    Another terrible moment for the Confederacy was the Andersonville POW prison camp in Georgia where 13,000 Union soldiers lost their lives to starvation, disease, abuse and war crimes. The captain in charge of the camp was tried as a war criminal and hung for his crimes there. The camp was a public relations disaster for the South, because of the outrage and anger for the inhumane treatment of POWs, where being sent to this camp was virtually a death sentence.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8eccbdc04304276e4b0409ceabe878fcfb3275532922a701706e550fb154f87c.jpg

    • Retired military

      Paul
      Read up on the Andersonville. Some of the abuses that took place there were Union prisoners abusing other union prisoners. Nor is Andersonville (unfortunately) a unique case in history. You had some Vietnam POWs that collaborated against their fellow prisoners. Jews being informed upon to the Nazis. History is rife with other examples. Some people choose to dishonor their profession to stay alive.
      Look at prisons in every country in the world. Look at modern communists, facists and dictorial regimes. Some people will take an easier road to survive than others.

  • Wild_Willie

    Paul, again, and again, and again. Stay on point.

    David, history is and always will be complicated with ties to everything. In a broad brush: England started and enforced slavery. We, with the South rebelled and beat England. We as a country had briefly the Articles of Confederation when the founding fathers in short time saw it was a bad idea. The modern day constitution was drafted and accepted as the law of the land.

    Even you can see from this document the struggle with slavery on a moral level. The 3/5th’s compromise is a census deal for representation in Congress.

    In brief, as American’s, slavery was at its’ end when the constitution was ratified. The slave trade came from Africa by the leaders of Africa. Black people sold black people. So everyone carries some part of the blame, but be sure, white people ended slavery. White people died to end it. A stupid statue or a piece of cloth does not represent the intricacies of history except for elementary kids. That flag does not bother me as I know its context.

  • Hank_M

    The southern heritage of racism that David rails against is the modern democrat “heritage” of today.

  • TheyTukRJobz

    Let’s conveniently ignore the fact that the soldiers fighting under that battle flag were not fighting for slavery, but for their states – their homes, their kin. Let’s also conveniently ignore that the monuments that are currently being taken down Soviet-purge style were mainly put there by the kinfolk of the soldiers who fought and died, honorably, under these men as a way to honor both those men and those who fought under them.

    And let’s conveniently ignore the fact that 40 years ago, the Democrat Confederacy, Democrat Jim Crow laws, Democrat Segregation and the Democrat KKK were all but defunct, disbanded and dead. That’s why the rebel flag came to represent Southern Heritage (not Democrat racism), and why it was acceptable for it to be on the “General Lee” car the Dukes of Hazzard drove around in. Are you going to tell me the Dukes of Hazzard was a pro-slavery, pro-segregation or pro-KKK show? It had finally lost the stench of Democrat racism, and for the past 2 generations has mainly represented just plain old southernness.

    The current propagandist-driven hysteria about the South and symbols of the South is manufactured, and, if you ask me, strongly reminiscent of the kind of propaganda that brought Hitler to power. It is a movement of intolerance, anger and hysteria – and it has led to many people seeing no problem with violently attacks on the targets of their media-manufactured anger. Just like how Germans increasingly found it acceptable to attack Jews.

    So why did this issue suddenly crop up? Who manufactured it? Why are so many people susceptible to suggestion and control from media sources? I don’t know, but it doesn’t bode well for the future of this nation.

    • Vagabond661

      The South is a stronghold for religious and conservative ideals. Hence, a target for the Looney Left.

      They want to destroy the South and they don’t care how long it takes them.

      This is the reason for my avatar. My defiant up yours to the Looney Left.

  • Retired military

    David

    When are you going to call for the removal of FDR Statues

    https://nalert.blogspot.com/2017/08/flashback-fdr-appoints-kkk-member-to-us.html

    Flashback: FDR Appoints KKK Member to U.S. Supreme Court. Hugo Black Came From The Klu Klux Klan Wing of the Democrat Party.
    Oh wait. FDR was a democrat so no worries there. I mean after all. Placards and signs are only for stuff that you disagree with.

  • Retired military

    I am sure that David agrees with me that on every ballot in the country they should have a disclaimer that says “The democrat party was formed to advance the cause of slavery”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)#1828.E2.80.931860

    1860–1900

    The Democrats split over the choice of a successor to President James Buchanan along Northern and Southern lines; factions of the party provided two separate candidacies for president in the election of 1860, in which the Republican Party gained ascendancy. The radical pro-slavery Fire-Eaters led a walkout at both the April Democratic convention in Charleston’s Institute Hall and the June convention in Baltimore when the national party would not adopt a resolution supporting the extension of slavery into territories even if the voters of those territories did not want it. These Southern Democrats nominated the pro-slavery incumbent vice president, John C. Breckinridge of Kentucky, for president and General Joseph Lane, former Governor of Oregon, for vice president. The Northern Democrats nominated Senator Stephen A. Douglas of Illinois for president and former Governor of Georgia Herschel V. Johnson for vice president, while some southern Democrats joined the Constitutional Union Party, backing its nominees (who had both been prominent Whig leaders), former Senator, Speaker of the House, and Secretary of War John Bell of Tennessee for president and the politician, statesman, and educator Edward Everett of Massachusetts for vice president. This fracturing of the Democrats led to a Republican victory, and Abraham Lincoln was elected the 16th President of the United States.

    As the American Civil War broke out, Northern Democrats were divided into War Democrats and Peace Democrats. The Confederate States of America, whose political leadership, mindful of the welter prevalent in antebellum American politics and with a pressing need for unity, largely viewed political parties as inimical to good governance; consequently the Confederacy had none, or at least none with the wide organization inherent to other American parties. Most War Democrats rallied to Republican President Abraham Lincoln and the Republicans’ National Union Party in the election of 1864, which featured Andrew Johnson on the Republican ticket even though he was a Democrat from the South. Johnson replaced Lincoln in 1865, but stayed independent of both parties. The Democrats benefited from white Southerners’ resentment of Reconstruction after the war and consequent hostility to the Republican Party. After Redeemers ended Reconstruction in the 1870s, and following the often extremely violent disenfranchisement of African Americans led by such white supremacist Democratic politicians as Benjamin Tillman of South Carolina in the 1880s and 1890s, the South, voting Democratic, became known as the “Solid South”. Though Republicans won all but two presidential elections, the Democrats remained competitive. The party was dominated by pro-business Bourbon Democrats led by Samuel J. Tilden and Grover Cleveland, who represented mercantile, banking, and railroad interests; opposed imperialism and overseas expansion; fought for the gold standard; opposed bimetallism; and crusaded against corruption, high taxes, and tariffs. Cleveland was elected to non-consecutive presidential terms in 1884 and 1892.[26]

  • Retired military
    • yetanotherjohn

      New York, Boston and Washington DC all had slave markets. They all need to be torn down to the ground. Anything less is support of racism. If you don’t support their total destruction, you are a racist and poopy head.
      p.s. Didn’t democrats support slavery? Shouldn’t every democratic senator, representative, governor, etc resign or do they stay in office just to spread racism?

  • McG

    How far Wizbang has fallen — now the content is not only illegible but unreadable.

    • Retired military

      At least a few of those who pen articles defend their articles in the comments. Not so much for others who wish to pontificate and then go silent because us deplorables aren’t worthy of a reply.

      • Seems there’s only three who post here…

        • Retired military

          I know Rodney. Sadly it is true. But I was trying to be nice by not pointing David out by name.

      • McG

        I just want to know why somebody doesn’t fix the template so the unreadable articles are at least legible.

        • What browser are you using?

          • McG

            The site looks terrible for me in both Chrome and Firefox. I use Adblock Plus but the problem seems to be the rendering of text spaces and a lack of contrast between the text and the background.

        • Scalia

          Hi, McG. I see everything clearly in both Edge and Chrome. I also use AdBlock for faster page loading. As Rodney asks, what browser are you using. Perhaps uploading a screen shot will help.

  • yetanotherjohn

    Hey, doesn’t California have a ballot proposition for seceding from the union? Gosh wilikers, I guess that makes them racist too.

    • Not yet. They are attempting to gather sufficient signatures (I have seen no evidence of pettition circulation).

      • yetanotherjohn

        Well they are thiking about it which should be clearly enough to condemn them as racists.

  • yetanotherjohn

    You know what? The supreme court has Greek columns in front of it. You know what the Greeks did? They had slaves. Further, the supreme court refers to a document that talks about slavery. The evidence is overwhelming, the supreme court is racist and should be abolished. Maybe lawyers can decide things with rock, paper scissors instead.

  • jim_m

    OK David, let’s play your game. People have used the Bible to defend slavery. Let’s ban the Bible and let’s ban Christianity. Heck, the Bible even talks about slavery and doesn’t say that it should be abolished. Even more reason to believe that all Christians should have no part in public society and determining the course of the nation.

    You say that you alone know what the flag symbolizes. How humble of you. You are able to discern the thoughts and intentions of millions of people and you are able to know better than they do what they think.