The Former President’s Surveillance Of Political Enemies Relegates Watergate To A Distant Second Place

The Watergate scandal that brought down Richard Nixon was a third rate burglary which he didn’t order and which scandal was the product of a vengeful Deputy Director of the FBI seeking retribution for being passed over as Director for that organization.

The former President and his deputies took it to a whole new level:

 

The former President and his deputies used the full force and power of the Executive Branch and the Intelligence Community against their political enemies.

WHY OBAMA REALLY SPIED ON TRUMP

Obama had to spy on Trump to protect himself.

By Daniel Greenfield, FRONTPAGEmag

Last week, CNN revealed (and excused) one phase of the Obama spying operation on Trump. After lying about it on MSNBC, Susan Rice admitted unmasking the identities of Trump officials to Congress.

Rice was unmasking the names of Trump officials a month before leaving office. The targets may have included her own successor, General Flynn, who was forced out of office using leaked surveillance.

While Rice’s targets weren’t named, the CNN story listed a meeting with Flynn, Bannon and Kushner.

Bannon was Trump’s former campaign chief executive and a senior adviser. Kushner is a senior adviser. Those are exactly the people you spy on to get an insight into what your political opponents plan to do.

Now the latest CNN spin piece informs us that secret FISA orders were used to spy on the conversations of Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort. The surveillance was discontinued for lack of evidence and then renewed under a new warrant. This is part of a pattern of FISA abuses by Obama Inc. which never allowed minor matters like lack of evidence to dissuade them from new FISA requests.

Desperate Obama cronies had figured out that they could bypass many of the limitations on the conventional investigations of their political opponents by ‘laundering’ them through national security.

If any of Trump’s people were talking to non-Americans, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) could be used to spy on them. And then the redacted names of the Americans could be unmasked by Susan Rice, Samantha Power and other Obama allies. It was a technically legal Watergate.

If both CNN stories hold up, then Obama Inc. had spied on two Trump campaign leaders.

Read the whole thing. In essence the former President’s Administration painted themselves into a corner. Having used the Intelligence Community against the Trump campaign while failing to derail his candidacy and prevent him being elected to the Presidency, they had to expand their surveillance ever further in the hope that some criminality might be exposed which would excuse this misuse of their authority.

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  • yetanotherjohn

    Its different because shut up.

    • I shan’t.

      • yetanotherjohn

        The funny thing is, “shut up” as a counter argument works better than actual factual reasoning. Factual reasoning would have the left admitting they have been duped. “Shut up” at least lets them continue ruling the universe in their own minds.

  • Retired military
    • Throw them both behind bars for the rest of their lives.

      • Retired military

        I will happily pay for bars to be welded in place.

  • Brett Buck

    In a sane world with the rule of law, the first rule of holes would apply – when you are in one, stop digging.

    These scumbags don’t see it that way, because they figure that no matter what they do, they are beyond any consequences. And sadly, they are probably right.

    That’s a far larger problem than the details of every idiotic incident. For all intents and purposes, the rule of law is dead, at least for the supposed “elite”. Unless that is somehow corrected, I despair for the future.

  • cathymv

    And Trump was right… again. The leftist media will never admit that they were wrong, they failed to investigate, they dropped the ball. They will never admit that their love of Obama stopped them from doing their job… and the media will quietly drop this from their news cycle…..

  • Paul Hooson

    If any surveillance was handled by proper agencies such as the Justice Department and limited to concerns such as potential illegal dealing with a rival nation and not passed on to the president or to the Clinton Campaign, then that is both lawful and acceptable. With Nixon, figures related to his own campaign committee were involved with burglary and other illegal surveillance acts to benefit their own campaign and were not lawfully done by agencies such as the Justice Department or FBI for the lawful concerns of law enforcement to prevent potential criminal activity of some sort. In 1972, I was a low ranking 17 year old member of President Nixon’s CREEP re-election committee, and was deeply disappointed by 1974 with this illegal conduct. I didn’t agree with George McGovern politically or with his Vietnam policy, and I strongly felt that President Nixon best represented my political views and had done a fine job as president up until the point of Watergate. There was no good reason for Watergate. President Nixon would have easily won re-election without these illegal acts and actually might have done even better than his 49 state landslide, where he might have won all states except DC if not for this terrible scandal which started to surface during the 1972 campaign. During one campaign appearance where candidate George McGovern was answering phone calls from viewers a phone didn’t work, McGovern joked that “We aren’t as good at phones as the Republicans”.

    • We’ll save a lamp post for you as well.

    • Walter_Cronanty

      “If any surveillance was handled by proper agencies such as the Justice Department and limited to concerns such as potential illegal dealing with a rival nation and not passed on to the president or to the Clinton Campaign, then that is both lawful and acceptable.”

      And if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle:

      Samantha Power Unmasked Americans at a Freakishly Rapid Pace in Obama’s Last Year

      Samantha Power was unmasking United States citizens at an astonishing rate in the final months of the Obama administration, Fox News reported Wednesday evening.

      The former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations unmasked at such a rapid pace that she ended up “averaging more than one request for every working day in 2016,” multiple sources said to Fox. And she continued to seek identifying information about Americans caught up in incidental surveillance right up to President Trump’s inauguration:

      “Two sources, who were not authorized to speak on the record, said the requests to identify Americans whose names surfaced in foreign intelligence reporting, known as unmasking, exceeded 260 last year. One source indicated this occurred in the final days of the Obama White House.”

      • McG

        If your uncle identifies as your aunt, who are you to contradict xir?

        • Walter_Cronanty

          Of course, you are correct, xir. I’m sorry for not being more inclusive in my analogy. I sincerely hope you weren’t triggered.

          • Brian Brandt

            Try “If my grandma had wheels she’d be a garbage truck.” It’s still sexist, but at least you’re not insulting the gender-confused.

    • Jwb10001

      Please do tell what business Samantha Power the UN ambassador has unmasking US citizens? That stinks to high heaven I can’t imagine one single reason that she would have to unmask anyone. Additionally would you approve of the releasing of this information to cause political damage? It’s a crime to disclose FISA court information, should we look the other way because Obama was a popular president? Will you have the same reaction if Nikki Haley unmasks a bunch of democrats in 2020? The law is the law it applies to politicians you like just like it does to politicians you don’t. At a minimum the leaker of this information should spend a very significant time in a jail cell.

      • Brian Brandt

        The law is the law it applies to politicians you like just like it does to politicians you don’t.

        Unfortunately it does not, but I like your idealism.

    • Brett Buck

      Interesting and disturbing insights into the workings of the liberal mind.

    • Retired military

      If a dog had a square asshole it would shit bricks.

  • Hank_M

    It must have really pissed em off. All that spying, recording, unmasking and they couldn’t come up with a thing to derail Trump. Hillary still can’t seem to process that.

    I’m sure they thought they had something when they went after Manaford but even Manaford’s spokesman has “said the alleged surveillance did not lead prosecutors to seek criminal charges against Manafort. And he urged the government to “release any intercepts involving him and any non-Americans so interested parties can come to the same conclusion as the DOJ – there is nothing there.”

    The best they can hope for now is what happened to Scooter Libby – someone not remembering something exactly as it happened.

    In the meantime as Cathymv points out, look for the media to avoid this, just as they are with the Menendez corruption trial.

    • The stupid thing is that they seem to figure that everyone is as dirty as they are, so NATURALLY there was shit going on in the background that could be used as leverage on Trump.

      But the more I’m seeing of Trump, the more I’m thinking that what we’re seeing is what Trump actually is – a good guy. Are there people who think he screwed ’em financially? Of course – but looking at everything that’s been tossed at Trump I’m starting to think he didn’t screw them FIRST.

  • Wild_Willie

    Paul is comparing apples to oranges. Obama and his justice departments had use of FISA and used it to benefit Hillary. He and his departments were aware of Russia’s meddling for a year and a half before the election. Also note Russia has always done this for decades. Not to favor a candidate but to disrupt our systems.

    When the internal polling in Hillary’s campaign started revealing how close the election was, Obama ‘all of a sudden’ decided how important it is to investigate Russia but only on his party’s opponent. Leaks were let out, etc. Unmasking started.

    It is only a matter of time before it is revealed how illegal their actions were. Trump’s staff are US citizens at the time allowed total protection from our constitution. Tick Tock.

    • jim_m

      Only foreigners can claim to be US citizens. People born here have no rights. Get with the narrative.

  • Joe_Miller

    Obama’s Presidential Library should include a replica of his jail cell.

    • Rdm42

      Why a replica? Put the genuine Article on display.

  • WHO’S THE BUSTER

    Neither Obama or Hillary are going to jail and you are all aware of this fact.

    Now, the odds of foreign agents Manafort and Flynn finding themselves in hot water are considerably higher.

    I am sure you all hate this fact, but it is far more likely.

    I realize many of you hate Obama for, well, something, but he will continue to be popular and history will judge him well. The one that always kills me, however, is that he inherited an economy going off a cliff (remember the stock market at 7000), yet he somehow ruined the economy.

    Of course, the story of the Trump administration has yet to be written and it will take at least another year to see the ramifications of his actions. He does have control of both houses, so it will be hard to blame the Democrats.

    • jim_m

      You do realize that the stock market is considered speculation and is not a direct measure of GDP or economic activity?

      Of course you don’t, because if you had you would have avoided printing that nonsense above and would have not made yourself look like an ass.

      • Hank_M

        Love the avatar, Jim.
        As for replying to WTB, there’s so much wrong there I didn’t know where to begin.

      • WHO’S THE BUSTER

        I know, it is just like unemployment figures, under Obama, meaningless, but with Trump they are worth touting along with the stock market. At least Spicer was honest when he grinned and said they are now meaningful because Trump was in office.

        I stand corrected, better that it had gone down to 3500.

        • Scalia

          I know, it is just like unemployment figures, under Obama, meaningless, but with Trump they are worth touting along with the stock market.

          It’s that hard for you to understand just one sentence??

        • jim_m

          Paul Krugman said that the Dow would never recover after election day. It broke record highs since.

          You don’t see me touting either the Dow or the unemployment rates. I have spoken at length how U6 unemployment is far more relevant as is the labor participation rate. But you are too ignorant or ideologically blinkered to acknowledge that fact.

        • Jwb10001

          If you look at all the unemployment numbers you’d find that Obama’s weren’t so good. The work force participation rate,, which is one of the employment metrics the federal government publishes were pure crap under Obama. All he managed to do was keep people unemployed so long they fell off the list. I know that’s a level of detail that’s too much for you but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true and relevant.

    • Retired military

      You conveniently forgot adding $10 Trillion to the deficit which will have much more ramifications than adding 12k to the Stock market (Trump has added over 2k in just 7 months which means that Obama is a piker by comparision if you want to talk about the stock market).

    • jim_m

      So you are pretending that the FBI has had proof of Manafort collaborating with the Russians to alter the election results, that they have had that proof for a year now and they have declined to do anything about it or to refer for prosecution, Manafort or anyone else in the Trump campaign or administration despite the fact that they had that information prior to Jan 20 when Trump was sworn in.

      I think it is readily apparent who the delusional person is in this instance. It is you.

    • Jwb10001

      So you’re ok with a politician using the force of the federal government to engage in political dirty tricks including leaking classified information to the press in direct violation of federal law because said politician is one of your liking? That’s not very smart.

    • Jail should be the least of their worries.

    • Brian Brandt

      Now, the odds of foreign agents Manafort and Flynn finding themselves in hot water are considerably higher.

      You got that part right. 7-figure lawyer bills. The process is the punishment.

    • Rdm42

      He took that economy and produced one of the most anemic recoveries in history, yes. An economy, I might add, that crashed because of a pileup of several LIBERAL policies causing bursting bubbles.

  • Par4Course

    The significance of government spying is directly proportional to whether the media is on the side of the government (as with the Obama administration) or against the government (as with the Nixon administration). Thus, Obama’s spying will never be as bad a Watergate because the MSM won’t report it or will downplay its importance. Watergate was a two-bit burglary coverup that the MSM blew up into a potential impeachment headed off by a Presidential resignation. Obama’s spying has been and will be met with a collective yawn from the MSM.