Las Vegas Massacre (OPEN THREAD)

From FoxNews:

A gunman turned a Las Vegas concert into a killing field Sunday night from his perch on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, using at least 10 guns to rain down a steady stream of fire, murdering at least 58 people and injuring more than 500 others in the deadliest mass shooting in modern United States history.

The suspect, who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, was identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, a resident of Mesquite, Nevada. Police initially sought a woman believed to be Paddock’s roommate, Marilou Danley, as a “person of interest.” Detectives later made contact with her, and “do not believe she is involved with the shooting on The Strip.”

Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said an “excess of 10 rifles” were found in the room, but did not immediately reveal a motive, saying “I can’t get into the mind of a psychopath at this point.”

Police found between 11 and 15 weapons in Paddock’s hotel room, a law enforcement source told Fox News. The guns found included converted, fully automatic AR-15 style assault rifles with high capacity magazines.

Fully automatic weapons produced after the mid-1980s are illegal in the U.S. Those made before can still be purchased, however, buying one requires heavy regulation, including a background check by ATF and law enforcement notification. In recent years, however, some criminals have illegally converted semi-automatic weapons into automatic ones.

Las Vegas Shooting and Gun Control
Weekend Caption Contest™ Winners Week of September 29 2017
  • Scalia

    Chaffetz tells Judge Jeanine that AG Sessions doesn’t want to prosecute Hillary, et al:
    https://youtu.be/QDypE3eKyCY

  • Scalia

    O.J. Simpson freed from Nevada prison after 9 years:

    Just as he eluded tacklers during his NFL days, O.J. Simpson avoided a media frenzy by being freed from a Nevada prison during the early hours of Sunday morning.

    Simpson was released after serving nine years for a botched 2007 hotel-room heist in Las Vegas that brought the conviction and prison time he avoided in the killings of his wife and her friend after his 1995 acquittal.

    Nevada state prisons spokeswoman Brooke Keast told the Associated Press that Simpson was released at 12:08 a.m. PDT from Lovelock Correctional Center in northern Nevada. She said she did not know who met Simpson upon his release and didn’t know where Simpson was immediately headed.

    • jim_m

      Obviously he is immediately headed out on his search for the real killers

      • Jwb10001

        I guess he doesn’t have a mirror

    • pennywit

      If Simpson satisfied the conditions of his parole, then let him walk.

  • Scalia

    Prof: ‘meritocracy’ is a ‘whiteness ideology’:

    A Pennsylvania State University-Brandywine professor criticized her students’ belief in “meritocracy” and “hard work” in an academic article published Thursday.

    Angela Putman, who teaches public speaking at Penn State-Brandywine, designed a comprehensive three-day seminar on “white privilege” for her students, then interviewed 12 attendees on their belief in meritocracy and equal opportunity.

    To her dismay, Putman discovered that these “whiteness ideologies” were widely endorsed by students, many of whom agreed that “if I work hard, I can be successful” and that “everyone has an equal opportunity to achieve success.”

    Dismissing meritocracy as a mere social construct, Putman argues that students “are socialized to believe that we got to where we are… because of our own individual efforts,” especially in classroom settings.

    “Thus, whiteness ideologies may be reproduced through a general acceptance and unchallenging of norms, as well as through everyday discourse from a wide variety of racial positionalities,” she adds.

    While Putman believes that schools chiefly perpetuate these harmful ideologies, she also believes that college professors aren’t powerless, saying they can help undo students’ belief in meritocracy and equal opportunity through intensive re-education.

    Professors should teach students “how racism and whiteness function in various contexts, the powerful influence of systems and institutions, and the pervasiveness of whiteness ideologies within the United States,” she adds, recommending the use of “role-play activities” and “readings, discussions, films, and activities.”

    • jim_m

      White privilege is a racist concept and classifies all white people according to their skin color. Anyone speaking about white privilege should be branded as a bigot and treated as such.

    • Walter_Cronanty

      “A Pennsylvania State University-Brandywine professor criticized her students’ belief in “meritocracy” and “hard work” in an academic article published Thursday….To her dismay, Putman discovered that these ‘whiteness ideologies’ were widely endorsed by students, many of whom agreed that ‘if I work hard, I can be successful” and that “everyone has an equal opportunity to achieve success.'”

      Well bless her heart.

    • pennywit

      So much to unpack, so little time. But I would challenge students’ belief that hard work, by itself, will determine how far you go in life. In my experience, success is a combination of hard work, luck, and your social/economic status (which encompasses both race and family’s economic background).

      • Scalia

        I’m all for saying that hard work, in itself, doesn’t guarantee success. Slaves worked hard, but at the end of the day, they were still slaves.

        That said, this stuff about “whiteness ideology” is for the birds. The “professor” is caught up in a leftist spiral of trying to locate new ways to be offended.

        • pennywit

          From what I understand, the left-wing perspective is something like this: When white people, especially upper-middle-class and wealthy white people, talk about meritocracy and the value of hard work, they choose that perspective to willfully blind themselves to social inequality.

          I’m sympathetic to that perspective, to a point.

          The right-wing counterargument is that blacks and other minorities, esp. poor minorities, cite lingering racial and economic inequality to excuse a failure to work hard and succeed.

          I’m also sympathetic to that perspective, to a point.

          Truthfully, I’ve seen both of these at work in the real world — upper middle class individuals, of multiple races, who ignore inequality AND poor folks, of multiple races, who try to game the system rather than work toward success.

          • Scalia

            From my perspective, a lot of whites, blacks, reds, browns and yellows preach the virtue of meritocracy. They do so outside the United States too, so it isn’t a white thing.

            And it’s a hard to be willfully blind when this country has bent over backwards to help racial minorities. The Left acts as if slavery is still legal. They have to in order to keep their coalition together. The fact that there are many extremely successful minorities lays bare the claim of institutional racism. Sorry, but I don’t buy it.

          • There is also the disparity between recent immigrants of color and our domestic persons of color. If race were the issue they’d all be in the same circumstances. The degree to which they are not is all the evidence any thinking person needs to know the whole ‘race’ thing is a scam.

          • Scalia

            By the way, kudos to the Skins for going toe-to-toe with the Chiefs. I hoped that would pull it out, but the bottom dropped out at the end.

            Anyway, they looked good.

          • pennywit

            Could have been a victory. That’s actually been one of my frustrations over the last twenty years ago. Every so often, the Skins would generally be awful for the year, but you would see glimmers of the team they could be if they did things just a little differently and a little consistently. I also note the Lions are on a roll.

            And somebody’s going to have to prep a safe space for Walter again this year ..

          • Scalia

            Yeah, the Browns are pretty bad.

  • Scalia

    Colin Kaepernick donated $25,000 to group honoring convicted cop-killer:

    Colin Kaepernick started out taking a knee during the national anthem to protest police brutality, but his activism has since expanded to encompass a wide range of leftist causes, including a group named after a convicted cop-killer.

    The Colin Kaepernick Foundation donated in April $25,000 to Assata’s Daughters, a Chicago “direct action” resistance organization honoring Assata Shakur, who escaped prison and fled to Cuba after being found guilty in the 1973 murder of Officer Werner Foerster.

    The grant includes $2,500 for CopWatch, a program that trains volunteers to follow and video police, and $15,000 for teen training, part of the group’s commitment to “develop and train young people, ages 4-19, in the Black queer feminist tradition and in the spirit of Assata.”
    Apparently Mr. Kaepernick is also a fan: He retweeted a July 16 message wishing Shakur a happy birthday.

    The contribution came as part of Mr. Kaepernick’s pledge last year to donate $1 million over 10 months to “organizations working in oppressed communities.”

  • Scalia

    Mormon leader reaffirms faith’s opposition to gay marriage:

    A top Mormon leader reaffirmed the religion’s opposition to same-sex marriage on Saturday during a church conference — and reminded followers watching around the world that children should be raised in families led by a married man and woman no matter what becomes the norm in a “declining world.”

    The speech by Dallin H. Oaks, a member of a top governing body called the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, followed a push in recent years by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to uphold theological opposition to gay marriage amid widespread social acceptance while trying to foster an empathetic stance toward LGBT people.

    The Mormon church is one of many conservative faith groups navigating the challenges that arise from trying to strike the right balance.

    “We have witnessed a rapid and increasing public acceptance of cohabitation without marriage and same-sex marriage. The corresponding media advocacy, education, and even occupational requirements pose difficult challenges for Latter-day Saints,” Oaks said. “We must try to balance the competing demands of following the gospel law in our personal lives and teachings even as we seek to show love for all.”

    Oaks acknowledged that this belief can put Mormons at odds with family and friends and doesn’t match current laws, including the recent legalization of gay marriage in the United States. But he told members of the nearly 16-million member faith watching around the world that the religion’s 1995 document detailing the doctrine — “The Family: A Proclamation to the World” — isn’t’ a policy statement that will be changed.

  • Scalia

    New Ted Kennedy film ‘Chappaquiddick’ has a release date:

    A new film about the fateful July 1969 car crash that killed Mary Jo Kopechne and ended Ted Kennedy’s presidential aspirations has an official release date, and it looks like film executives have Oscars in mind.

    Chappaquiddick, which stars Jason Clarke as Kennedy and Kate Mara as Kopechne, will open in select theaters on Dec. 8, according to the Hollywood Reporter, qualifying it for the 2017 slate of film awards.

    The film debuted at the Toronto Film Festival earlier this month, before Entertainment Studios purchased it for $4 million. THR also reported that the studio has committed $16 million to prints and advertising (P&A), further fueling suspicions that Chappaquiddick is being primed as an awards season candidate.

    Early reviews suggest that the film is largely unsympathetic to Kennedy, with one reviewer writing that Chappaquiddick “turns a critical eye towards the Kennedy mystique, showing how the family closed ranks around one of their own at a moment that could – and arguably should – have cost him not only his career, but his freedom.”

    • Retired military

      If they come anywhere near the truth they wont even be nominated for the Oscars.

    • Paul Hooson

      Edward was certainly the least of the Kennedy brothers. He avoided doing the right thing during this tragic accident unlike his brothers who stood up to Soviets during the Cuban Missile Crisis, where the Soviets realized their resolve and ships with Russian missiles turned around from Cuba and went home.

      • The family made their fortune running rum during prohibition.

      • jim_m

        No, Teddy went to the Russians and asked for their help to destroy Reagan. He wasnt going to stand up to the Soviets, he was running into their arms.

    • pennywit

  • Scalia
  • Shooter’s Father was at one point on the FBI’s most wanted list and described as a violent psychopath. As for the shooter, it would appear that he was a creature of the left, and a competent gun smith and shot.

    We need more crazy leftist control.

    • WHO’S THE BUSTER

      “As for the shooter, it would appear that he was a creature of the left…”

      Based on what information?

  • Tom Petty, RIP.

    • WHO’S THE BUSTER

      Too bad, really enjoyed his music. I guess we need to be prepared for a rash of these deaths considering
      the age of rockers and their habits. Heck, I still can’t believe the Stones are not only alive (save for Brian), but touring.

      Watched the Traveling Wilburys documentary recently and it was really interesting. It was such an accidental formation and really came out better than you might expect.

      They were in such awe of Roy Orbison, which took him completely by surprise. What a voice (his Black and White Concert, with a number of guests, was incredible, most people cannot sing live as well as in the studio). The documentary and the Black and White Concert are both on YouTube. What isn’t?

      One section of the documentary covered them each going away to work individually on a new song. Twenty minutes elapsed and no one had really made any progress, but Dylan comes back and sets down a completed set of lyrics, leaving the rest of them merely shaking their heads. Reminded me of Kramer in The Contest episode, “I’m out!”

      Still have a lot of Petty songs on some of my playlists, they age quite well.

      Lefty, Nelson and Charlie Wilbury are now deceased leaving only Otis and Lucky behind.

      Here is one of the Wilbury’s songs where Petty is prominently featured:

  • Scalia

    CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn’t deserve sympathy because country music fans ‘often are Republican’

    CBS has parted ways with one of the company’s top lawyers after she said she is “not even sympathetic” to victims of the Las Vegas shooting because “country music fans often are Republican,” when discussing the tragic mass shooting that occurred in Las Vegas late Sunday night.

    “This individual, who was with us for approximately one year, violated the standards of our company and is no longer an employee of CBS. Her views as expressed on social media are deeply unacceptable to all of us at CBS. Our hearts go out to the victims in Las Vegas and their families,” a CBS spokeswoman told Fox News.

    Hayley Geftman-Gold, the network’s now-former vice president and senior counsel, took to Facebook after a gunman opened fire at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas, killing at least 58 people and sending more than 500 others to hospitals.

    “If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs [sic] will ever do the right thing,” Geftman-Gold wrote in a now-deleted message that was first reported and captured by The Daily Caller.

    • An excellent start.

    • jim_m

      The soulless left wasted less than an hour to start politicizing this and to start spitting on the dead.

    • Walter_Cronanty

      But,…..but,….doesn’t she have 1st Amendment Rights? You know, like the NFL players?

    • Par4Course

      The sad thing is that Ms. Geftman-Gold expressed what a lot of those on the left were thinking but had enough sense not to put into a post.

  • Retired military

    I am sure David is up in the air on this.

    I mean you have the shooter’s free speech rights vs his use of magazines larger than 10 rounds.

  • Vagabond661

    New gun control law must be passed! Make it illegal to shoot a firearm out of a hotel building!

    Wait make it ANY high rise building!!!

    Just think, if they passed that law in the 60’s JFK would still be with us…

    • WHO’S THE BUSTER

      Good thing he didn’t have an ax or two.

    • Retired military

      Maybe we should make murder illegal.

  • pennywit

    Something has to change. Culture? Norms? Laws? I have no idea. But until we see that change, we’ll have more shootings like this one.

    • All leftists are mad. I renew my call for crazy leftist control.