NBC Ignored Weinstein Story? OPEN THREAD

From FoxNews:

NBC News is under fire inside and outside of 30 Rock for passing on the story that has turned Hollywood on its head – movie producer Harvey Weinstein’s decades of preying on women seeking to break into the movie business.

The Peacock’s attempts to explain why former MSNBC host Ronan Farrow’s expose on Weinstein never made it on the air, despite extensive, on-the-record interviews and a damning audiotape of Weinstein himself, have fallen flat as the story has exploded.

“Who at NBC News passed on this story?” asked Mediaite columnist and Managing Editor Colby Hall. “Why would they choose not to cover such an enormous and important story? And was there some sort of mandate from above?”

[…]

Farrow, who had his show canceled in 2015 and now has a non-exclusive relationship with NBC, was told months before publication his Weinstein scoop didn’t meet NBC’s standards. An NBC insider said Farrow’s story didn’t have a specific accuser willing to go on the record at the time.

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  • Scalia

    In victory for Trump, Supreme Court dismisses travel ban case:

    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court dismissed a major challenge to President Trump’s travel ban on majority-Muslim countries Tuesday because it has been replaced by a new version, sending the controversy back to the starting block.

    The ruling is a victory for the Trump administration, which had asked the court to drop the case after Trump signed a proclamation Sept. 24 that replaced the temporary travel ban on six nations with a new, indefinite ban affecting eight countries. That action made the court challenge moot, the justices ruled.

    “We express no view on the merits,” the justices said in a one-page order.

    The decision effectively wipes the record clean in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, one of two federal appeals courts that had struck down major portions of Trump’s travel ban. That case began in Maryland.

    A separate case from the 9th Circuit, based in California, remains pending because it includes a ban on refugees worldwide that won’t expire until later this month. But the Supreme Court is likely to ditch that case, which began in Hawaii, as well.

    The challengers in both cases already have renewed their lawsuits in the lower courts, starting the legal process anew. In Maryland, a federal district court has scheduled a new hearing for next week.

    • Dismissed as moot, not on merits.

      • Scalia

        True enough but fought by opponents.

  • Scalia

    FBI identifies ‘black identity extremists’ as threat to cops:

    While white supremacists were planning to rally in Charlottesville, the FBI’s counterterrorism unit identified “black identity extremists” as a growing threat, it has been revealed.

    The FBI’s Domestic Terrorism Analysis Unit, which dubbed the group BIE, said “perceptions of police brutality against African Americans spurred an increase in premeditated, retaliatory lethal violence against law enforcement,” according to an August 3 report obtained by Foreign Policy.

    Citing Michael Brown’s 2014 death in Ferguson, Mo., as the catalyst, the FBI listed specific cases, saying it was “likely the BIE suspects acted in retaliation for perceived past police brutality incidents”.

    Among them was Micah Johnson, a former Army reservist who shot dead five Dallas police officers during a peaceful protest against police violence last year.

    There have been 98 law enforcement fatalities this year so far, compared to 102 during the same period last year, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

    Among the fatalities in 2017, 36 were firearms related – down from 44 this time last year – while the vast majority were attributed to traffic accidents, fires, illnesses, and other causes.

  • Scalia

    Why did it take so long??

    Democrats condemn Weinstein, breaking silence:

    After days of muted response, top Democrats on Tuesday condemned Harvey Weinstein, the former studio executive and a top donor to their party.

    That’s all one needs to read. If Weinstein were a conservative, Obama, Clinton, et al would have fallen all over themselves to get to the microphones.

    • Retired military

      They are trying to figure out how to keep the money.

      • Brett Buck

        Oh, they already know how to do that. Hillary “repurposed” all the money given to her by the Chinese Government back in 2008, or at least all the money given to her by the Chinese government that we found out about.

      • …and avoid being implicated.

  • Retired military

    NBC was too busy printing a fake news story claiming Trump wants 10X the nukes we currently have.

  • Scalia

    ‘Monday Night Football’ Ratings Hits Season Low As Vikings Win Tight G:

    With the Minnesota Vikings and Chicago Bears were tied near the end of last night’s Monday Night Football, it looked for sure that the game was going into overtime. Then, even with injured quarterback Sam Bradford put on the field, the Vikings took control and won the game 20-17.

    That now finds Minnesota 3-2 in the fifth week of the 2017 season. However, even with the much plugged world debut of the new Star Wars: The Last Jedi trailer at halftime, for the NFL and ESPN it was not such a great result in what is clearly a season of lower ratings amid protest controversies surrounding the national anthem – even on a night when the latter was not shown on-air.

    Snaring a 7.0 in metered market results, MNF was down double digits from last week’s Kansas City Chiefs win over the Washington Redskins. Down 17% in the ratings, that’s actually a regular-game season low for ESPN and matches the MM result of the second game of the doubleheader MNF opener on September 11.

    That comes a day after Sunday Night Football also hit a season low.

  • Scalia

    ESPN host compares Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to a slave owner:

    On the same day that Jemele Hill was suspended from ESPN for tweeting about politics, another network personality, Michael Wilbon, compared Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to a slave owner.

    Mr. Wilbon, co-host of “Pardon the Interruption,” took issue with Mr. Jones’ stance that players who do not stand for the national anthem before football games will not play.

    “And the word that comes to my mind―and I don’t care who doesn’t like me using it―is plantation,” Mr. Wilbon said on Monday’s show. “The players are here to serve me, and they will do what I want. No matter how much I pay them, they are not equal to me. That’s what this says to me and mine.”
    ESPN declined to comment on Mr. Wilbon’s remarks.

    The take-a-knee protests roiling the NFL escalated once again on Sunday, when Vice President Mike Pence walked out of the Indianapolis Colts-San Francisco 49ers game, after 23 members of 49ers did not stand for the anthem.

  • Scalia

    EPA Formally Proposes to Rescind Obama-Era Clean Power Plan:

    The Trump administration on Tuesday proposed to repeal former President Barack Obama’s sweeping plan for paring greenhouse gas emissions, opening a small window for a revival of coal-fired electricity.

    The formal rollback of that initiative, the Clean Power Plan, also will prolong uncertainty over the makeup of the U.S. energy mix and how much utilities must do to cut emissions generated by burning fossil fuels.

    “We are committed to righting the wrongs of the Obama administration by cleaning the regulatory slate,” EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt said in a news release.

    It will take months, if not longer, for President Donald Trump’s EPA to formally end the Clean Power Plan, much less decide on whether — and how — to replace it. And even that action won’t decide the issue, as environmental activists and state leaders, including New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, have already vowed to challenge the rollback.

    “It extends a cloud over a whole lot of investment for the next couple of years,” said Kit Konolige, a New York-based Bloomberg Intelligence analyst. Coming on top of weak growth in demand for energy, “it’s more uncertainty that you really didn’t need.”

    The Clean Power Plan dictated specific carbon-cutting targets for states based on a complex formula tied to their 2012 power plant emissions — and then gave them broad latitude to decide how to achieve those reductions, such as retiring coal-fired plants, adding renewable power, and promoting energy conservation.

    • DaveTheLoveable

      “Promoting energy conservation” Bah!! Back in the late 90’s early 2000’s, Denver pushed a water conservation program. It worked. Too well… Turned out Denverites saved so much water, Denver Water co was losing so much income they had to jack up prices! Result: Thanks to ‘conservation’ & ‘going green’ we now pay MORE money for LESS product!

      • That happened here in CA as well. They put rationing rates into effect and asked us to reduce usage. We did, the water companies started losing money, rates went up. Markets work better than government regulation.

  • Scalia

    Good riddance!

    Freshman Quarterback Dismissed From Team After Kneeling During Anthem:

    READING, Pa. (CBS) — A football player at Division III Albright College in Reading has been dismissed from the team after taking a knee during the National Anthem on Saturday.

    Before the game against Del Val, the Albright Lions decided as a team to both take a knee during the coin toss and to stand during the Star Spangled Banner as a sign of unity.

    One player, 19-year-old Gyree Durante, went down on one knee during the National Anthem. According to school officials, the freshman quarterback didn’t tell anyone his plan to kneel.

    In a statement, the school says Durante was dismissed for his decision to not support team unity.

    A 24-player leadership council came up with the pregame routine as a way to find common ground and mutual respect on a team with so many different opinions.

    • pennywit

      Private school, private school rules.

      • Scalia

        NFL, private business, private rules.

      • Scalia

        Tolja the Skins would win!

    • Par4Course

      Finally some common sense.

      • Seems “sense” is far from as common a commodity as it once was, and let us not even discuss courtesy.

  • Scalia

    Amherst students demand protection from ‘hurtful’ ideas:

    Students at Amherst College recently protested the mere presence of a conservative speaker, saying students shouldn’t have to “feel afraid for their safety.”

    They found the speaker, Michael Graham, offensive and unqualified because he was fired from his talk radio show twelve years ago after repeatedly pointing out the relationship between Islam and terrorism.

    Graham, notably, was only one of several speakers on a panel titled, “Why Military Action After 9/11 Was Justified and Saved American Lives,” which also included military veteran and State Representative John Velis; the state commander for the Department of Massachusetts Veterans of Foreign Wars, Eric Segundo; and Robert Roughsedge, an Army officer and commentator who served in Afghanistan in a NATO command.

    In an open letter last week, members of the Muslim Students Association, the South Asian Students Association, and others say that they felt like their physical safety was at stake as a result of the Graham’s participation in the panel.

    “No student should ever have to feel afraid for their safety or have to wake up in the morning knowing that there are other students on this campus who hate them for an integral part of their identity and are willing and able to voice these hurtful ideas on a public platform,” the letter declares.

    Not only does the letter demand that the administration protect students from speakers with “hateful” opinions, it also declared that the Amherst College Republicans (ACR) should have consulted with other identity-based student groups like the Muslim Students Association and the South Asian Students Association before inviting speakers to campus.

    Doing so “would have been conducive to finding a productive and appropriate speaker qualified to speak on this topic while still keeping the perspective that ACR wanted to share through this event,” the letter contends.

    Additionally, the signatories assert that ACR should have written “a public response to the student body and the affected groups promptly after the event,” concluding that “an apology is warranted.”

  • Scalia

    Detroit firefighter fired for bringing watermelon to station:

    DETROIT (WJBK) – Earlier this month, 41-year-old Robert Pattison went to introduce himself to his fellow firefighters at Engine 55 at Joy and Southfield in Detroit. Second Battalion Chief Shawn McCarty calls it a tradition for firefighters.

    “It’s not mandatory, it’s voluntary,” he says. “You come in bearing gifts. The usual gift is doughnuts, but you are allowed to bring whatever you want to bring in.”

    And Pattison, a probationary firefighter, decided to bring a watermelon wrapped in a pink ribbon. We’re told some African-American firefighters were instantly offended, since 90 percent of the people who work at Engine 55 are black.

    “When you get your first detail at a firehouse you pretty much know what you are getting yourself into,” says Patrick Trout. “So you would have to say it was probably a bad call.”

    FOX 2: “Is it racially insensitive to bring a watermelon into a fire house?”

    “To some people,” McCarty says.

    FOX 2 spoke to Pattison by phone, who claims it was not a joke – and he did not mean to offend his fellow firefighters. But he clearly did. Fire Commissioner Eric Jones says the Fenton native was officially discharged.

    In a statement Jones says: “There is zero tolerance for discriminatory behavior inside the Detroit Fire Department. On Saturday, Sept. 30, 2017, at Engine 55, a trial firefighter (probationary employee) engaged in unsatisfactory work behavior which was deemed offensive and racially insensitive to members of the Detroit Fire Department.

    “After a thorough investigation, it was determined that the best course of action was to terminate the employment of this probationary employee.”

  • pennywit

    I think it’s reasonable to refuse to air the story without a woman who wants to go on the record. But the sheer number of accusations and the fact that Weinstein is (was) so influential, I think, merit airing the story after having it thoroughly lawyered.

    • Retired military

      “I think it’s reasonable to refuse to air the story without a woman who wants to go on the record. ”

      Tell you what Pennywit.
      1. Pick any day of the week within the next 15 days.
      2. Go to Yahoo.com
      3. Count the negative Trump stories headlines.
      4. Count the positive Trump stories headlines
      5. Look at stories for number 3 and see how many quote anonymous sources, WH Sources, etc which give no name.

      Look at number 3 and 5. I will bet you $20 winner names favorite charity that 5 is at least half of 3.
      Look at number 4. I bet you another $20 that it wont be higher than 2.

      The MSM doesnt mind anonymous sources as long as they make republicans look bad. With democrats if you have it on video it is still a 50 50 chance it will never make more than 3 seconds on the news cycle.

      Hell just last week both TIllerson and Kelly were supposed to resign according to various anonymous sources.

      • pennywit

        Nope. Besides, I don’t read Yahoo! News.

        • Point ceded.

        • Jwb10001

          No need to read yahoo news, look at CNN just today still with the Tillerson called Trump a moron, like 10th graders spreading gossip about the cool kids. We’re also doubling down on the Trump wanted to increase the nuke arsenal 10 fold, no real credible source for that story, but hey that doesn’t stop them. When they weren’t spreading that gossip around they were accusing Trump of having authoritarian impulses ignoring the massive number of executive orders of his predecessor. No mention of the number of Trump executive orders that simply reversed the authoritarian Obama and his riding rough shod over the separation of powers. There is plenty to be critical of in the Trump administration but the media is killing their credibility on this non stop nonsense. They’re playing by Trumps rules, how do you suppose that’s going to turn out?

        • Retired military

          How about an LA Times article

          http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-tax-cuts-20171011-story.html

          “Republicans in Congress were quietly discussing scaling back key provisions in an effort to deliver the top White House priority.”

          None named

          “those familiar with negotiations said.”

          None named

          “Some Republicans are also pushing back against other parts of the president’s plan”

          None named

          “Negotiators say changes will be needed”

          None named

          “Everything is fluid right now,” said one business lobbyist, granted anonymity to discuss
          the private talks”

          Not named

          “But experts doubted such a windfall would flow to workers”

          None named
          ———————-
          Gee seems to be a habit there.

  • pennywit

    Similar stories, smaller scale:

    Defy Media Fires ‘Honest Trailers’ Creator Andy Signore After Sexual Abuse Allegations

    The digital media company said that his termination was effective immediately and that “there is simply no justification for his egregious and intolerable behavior.” The HR team was made aware of the allegations which prompted an investigation. Emma Bowers, a former intern that worked for Signore, came forward on Twitter last week to tell a detailed story about how he made comments about masturbating to photos of her. April Dawn, a fan of Screen Junkies, also gave a Twitter testimony on how Signore tried to assault her on multiple occasions.

    And:

    Harry Knowles steps back from Ain’t It Cool News after sexual misconduct allegations

    Last week, a woman named Jasmine Baker came forward with allegations against Knowles, claiming to Indiewire, “Harry Knowles groped me, opportunistically, on more than one occasion. I cannot just stay silent. I am not interested in remaining silent.” According to Baker, Knowles’ first incident of sexual misconduct against her occurred during an Alamo Drafthouse event two decades ago. In the wake of the Indiewire report, multiple other women have come forward with allegations of sexual misconduct against Knowles.

    The claims against Knowles, which he has denied, came as Alamo Drafthouse weathered its own storm of controversy after it was revealed the company’s co-founder, Tim League, had rehired journalist Devin Faraci for a copywriting job, months after Faraci stepped down from the Drafthouse’s Birth.Movies.Death website amid his own sexual assault allegations.

    And, in terms of inappropriate conduct, rather than outright abuse, we have:

    Joss Whedon Is a ‘Hypocrite Preaching Feminist Ideals,’ Ex-Wife Kai Cole Says (Guest Blog)

    There were times in our relationship that I was uncomfortable with the attention Joss paid other women. He always had a lot of female friends, but he told me it was because his mother raised him as a feminist, so he just liked women better. He said he admired and respected females, he didn’t lust after them. I believed him and trusted him. On the set of “Buffy,” Joss decided to have his first secret affair.

    Fifteen years later, when he was done with our marriage and finally ready to tell the truth, he wrote me, “When I was running ‘Buffy,’ I was surrounded by beautiful, needy, aggressive young women. It felt like I had a disease, like something from a Greek myth. Suddenly I am a powerful producer and the world is laid out at my feet and I can’t touch it.” But he did touch it. He said he understood, “I would have to lie — or conceal some part of the truth — for the rest of my life,” but he did it anyway, hoping that first affair, “would be ENOUGH, that THEN we could move on and outlast it.”

    Joss admitted that for the next decade and a half, he hid multiple affairs and a number of inappropriate emotional ones that he had with his actresses, co-workers, fans and friends, while he stayed married to me. He wrote me a letter when our marriage was falling apart, but I still didn’t know the whole truth, and said, “I’ve never loved anyone or wanted to be with anyone in any real or long-term way except for you ever. And I love our life. I love how you are, how we are, who you are and what we’ve done both separately and together, how much fun we have…” He wanted it all; he didn’t want to choose, so he accepted the duality as a part of his life.

    I just can’t fathom this. Seriously. You end up in an influential position in your industry. Is it really that difficult to just do your job and keep your damn pants on?!

    • Retired military

      What is worse is that it is an open secret that everyone in the business knew about yet we get the MSM talking about Romney with binders of women and Trump talking about grabbing pussy when democrats actually do it and the MSM keeps mum about it.

      Cant cross the DNC narrative now can they

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/85f0282c07e721cc844dbdf33a0c0beb7b15332f8e4567dd82468d674a3921bf.jpg

      • Just a further demonstration of the shared tactics of the left. As with the Evil Empire (the Soviet Union) they accuse their enemies of that which they do or intend to do. See also the dhimmocrat’s “warnings” about abuse of the intelligence community which came to fruition during the Administration of the former President.

      • pennywit

        I, personally, just thought “binders full of women” was a really weird phrase.

        • Jwb10001

          And perhaps it is weird, but not being an C level executive I have no idea if that’s standard language for those guys. What I do know is he wanted to diversify his executive work force to include qualified women, do you suppose it warranted all the non stop name calling? The media helps give that sort of smear credibility, or at least it used to. Now it seems the media has very little credibility to give so if that’s a side effect of Trump, good.

      • pennywit

        I think you’re looking for this one — it’s a little more topical:

        http://chronicle.augusta.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/2017-10-11/rick-mckee-editorial-cartoon

    • Scalia

      I just can’t fathom this. Seriously. You end up in an influential position in your industry. Is it really that difficult to just do your job and keep your damn pants on?!

      One would think that should be the case, but this appears to be a common malady with those in power.

      There are many women who will gladly exchange sex or other “favors” for a position and/or fame. They think that their temporary “inconvenience” is worth the million-dollar payday, and many men find themselves unable to resist their advances. Such men then think that all women are theirs for the taking. Given that their egos are boosted from their previous “conquests,” they consider themselves God’s gift to women, and so long as they continue to wield power and influence, every attractive woman will not be safe in their presence.

      If your job requires you to be alone with a lot of beautiful women, and if you happen to have a LOT of money—look out. I’m certainly not the most attractive man in the world, but I’ve made it my personal and business practice to never be alone with a non-related woman. I won’t even take a business ride in a car with a woman or have lunch with her alone. It’s not that I’m some uncontrollable lecher. I simply realize that any man can fall, and I take the warning of the Bible seriously:

      Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

      Not everybody who has fallen into fornication or adultery intended to do so at the beginning of a friendship or business endeavor. But the fact that they allowed themselves to be in situations where the transition would be easy made themselves vulnerable to unnecessary temptation.You might be able to have luncheons with 10 women and never feel tempted, but if you allow that in your life, you’ll eventually come across somebody you’re very attracted to. Private meetings develop into private friendships and friendships, by definition, involve emotional dependence to one degree or another. For a married man, that can be a recipe for disaster.

      For me, the safe route is always best. I’ve led a very successful professional life and have always been faithful to my wife (not bragging, just saying). Regrettably, I’ve had friends who did not heed my warnings which led to catastrophe. They were good men who felt they were strong enough to bypass my outdated scruples, but a bullet, once fired, cannot be taken back. Bottom line: Anybody committed to a lasting relationship needs to draw responsible boundaries which they will never cross.

      • Walter_Cronanty

        Well said!

    • Scalia

      While on the topic, I like what one blogger said:

      Amazing how these women accepted being pig food in the name of getting a role rather than reporting the pig to authorities even if losing the role was a price for their now so called ethos.

      Victimized women, situations differ of course, never seem to mind while the rewards are tenfold. Then when their status and finance appear lacking, they jump on the bandwagon of accusations, though years later, cannot help but pour doubt that all are being truthful. Some need to remain relevant by any means necessary which hurts those who actually were victimized without receiving the heralded perks of Hollywood fame.

      Cry when the milk is spilled not years later after getting what you accepted as hush money.

  • Wild_Willie

    Is anyone really surprised at the response to Weinstein’s behavior? Typical hypocrisy. The GOP banishes sex predator’s while the dem’s laud them. See Clinton, Spitzer, Weiner, Weinstein, etc. I bet no charges will be filed. I do not feel sorry for the actresses that kept quiet so they can become famous. They sold themselves.

    • Brett Buck

      No one is surprised and almost none of the Hollywood types currently falling all over themselves to decry him actually cares very much. They might be relieved that everyone is looking at Harvey and not at their own actions. It wouldn’t remotely surprise me to find that half the women coming forward actually sought the guy out because they knew that this was the way to get ahead, and now, after they have made it, it’s real easy to claim exploitation and righteous indignation.

      These are people and a town where success is based on how they look, how they carry their bodies and their limited ability to fake normal human reactions that they don’t actually have. Both the “exploiters” and probably most of the supposed “victims” are in it to get ahead, Harvey “exploits” people to get girls he couldn’t otherwise have and the girls exploit Harvey’s weakness to get what they want. There may have been a few cases of complete innocents wandering into this sick world by accident, but you can assume that the majority are just as morally bankrupt as ole Harv.

      Today it’s getting the publicist to send their condemnation to the right media sources. Tomorrow, they will be headed to a gala dinner to raise funds for Hillary, day after, off sign a petition to get Roman Polanski off the hook. Weinstein is a scumabag but Polanski is a convicted child rapist, they don’t care. Two years from now Harvey will be forgiven.

      None of these people on any side of this story are worth a bucket of warm spit. They are virtually all professional frauds and liars, and no one involved has an ounce of credibility or moral authority.

  • jim_m

    The best part is that now that all the dems and hollywood lefties have come out to say how shocked they were and how they had no idea, now we get the clips from award shows and TV where they are making jokes and veiled references to his behavior.

    They all knew. Every. Last. One. Of. Them.

    They are all complicit. They all deserve to roast for abetting rape and sexual harassment.

    • Scalia

      If it’s less than 100%, a whole gob of them knew. Rank hypocrites.

      • jim_m

        IF

  • Par4Course

    The MSM does not rat out Democrats for their sexual habits, regardless of how vile. If not for Matt Drudge, Bill Clinton receiving oral sex from a White House intern would have been kept a secret.

  • Hank_M

    Don Surber has what I think is the correct take on the Weinstein story.

    “That molester attorney general of Arkansas was now the president. Paula Jones spoke out against him, and was trashed. All of Hollywood backed him saying sex is private, and everybody lies about sex. The message was clear to young women: you are nobody.

    Feminists sold out women’s rights to defend a perverted president because he kept the money flowing to Planned Parenthood.”

  • Speaking of under-reported stories:

    The Democrats’ IT scandal just got even more bizarre

    In another twist, Gowen [Awan’s attorney] brought up a computer that Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz wants back so badly she actually threatened the chief of the Capitol Police in a public hearing with “consequences” if she didn’t get it back.

    Gowen argued that the computer and documents seized in a bag left in a public area of a congressional building around midnight on April 6, 2017, are “protected by attorney-client privilege.” Gowen hopes to remove this evidence from future court proceedings.[Emphasis added]

    Gowen, however, didn’t answer what Imran was doing in the Longworth congressional building late at night and long after he’d been fired by every Democrat aside from Rep. Wasserman Schultz (Wasserman Schultz’s office isn’t in Longworth).

  • Hank_M

    So how is it that Weinstein visited the White House 13 times during the Ofailure years?
    He even met with Jarret and michelle.

  • Scalia

    TO MY FELLOW WIZBANGERS:

    HOW ‘BOUT THEM YANKEES!!

    • Walter_Cronanty

      Not so well said!

      • Scalia

        Admittedly, Cleveland had a completely unexpected meltdown. I “knew” they would beat us. One of my buddies confidently asserted that the Yankees would win. I thought he was nuts. What a surprise!

        • Walter_Cronanty

          I thought you were a Tigers fan.

          • Scalia

            No. Oddly enough, I never liked either the Tigers or the Pistons. I’ve always liked the Red Wings and the Lions, however.

            When I was a boy, my dad bought me a Babe Ruth book for my birthday. Ever since then, I was hooked on the Yankees.

            For college football, I rooted for Notre Dame. Neither the Spartans nor the Wolverines ever caught my fancy. Perhaps it was Notre Dame’s fight song that hooked me in my youth. Whatever the reason, I’m an Irish fan.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            I’m much more parochial than you. Go Bucks.

        • jim_m

          Virtually no team, having set a record for winning streak, has ever won their leagues championship. It was quite predictable that Cleveland would bow out early.

          As a Red Sox fan I will be rooting for the Astros

          • Scalia

            It was almost a comedy of errors on their part. I couldn’t believe what they were doing, especially since going to the Big Dance last year.

            Well, water under the bridge now. Sorry about the Sox. A CS with them would have been much more fun.

    • You seem to have missed the first half of that last word…

      • Scalia

        No doubt the sentiment of many. All my favorite teams have been powerhouses in rather recent memory, except, of course, the Lions.

  • pennywit

    The Washington Redskins DID NOT LOSE this week. Because it was the bye week. But I’ll take it.

    • Scalia

      I think they’ll beat the Niners.

  • Paul Hooson

    After Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, powerful men using their position of power to get blowjobs or “pussy grab” lost their shock value with the public as well as the media so the Harvey Weinstein story didn’t have a real market value to the media where news is a commodity item. But, as the story grew and the allegations included rape, then the media gradually came on board with the story.

    • Retired military

      Paul

      Really??? You are pedaling this crap. GIve us a break. If this had been a republican the media would have been reporting it day and night. As for Trump he wasnt even on the scene 3 years ago when the NYDA and PD covered up the story. We were treated to months of Russian prostitutes peeing with no proof and here you have well over a dozen women and the press didnt want to touch the story with a 10 foot pole because it was a DEMOCRAT.

      Weinstein was doing fund raisers for Hillary during this time. Cant interrupt the annoting of the Virgin Hillary with inconvenient stories in the media about her and Obama’s fundraisers during an election year now can you.

      You also fail to mention that the BIll Cosby story was in full swing during this same 3 year time frame.

      • Paul Hooson

        It’s big news now, but when it was merely another businessman sex harassment example it didn’t have a great deal of appeal as a story because high profile politicians took the edge off sex scandals. Harvey Weinstein can thank both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump for reducing the glare of sex scandals, where most business sex scandals are never reported in the news unless they arrive at the giant proportions of the Harvey Weinstein story with many famous actresses involved as well as actual rape and not just sexual harassment allegations.

        • Scalia

          In other words, “I’ll completely ignore what you said and repeat myself.” Didn’t you even bother to read RM’s post??

          • Paul Hooson

            Look, there were a couple of strongly prolife Republican members of Congress recently caught up in sex scandals recently, where one had introduced many pieces of legislation to outlaw abortion, but when he got his mistress pregnant, he pressured her to get an abortion. If the media was really out to get Republicans as some may think, then the media would have been all over these two stories, but instead all but ignored these stories.

            I don’t agree with the persecution complex here. This is becoming like the Republican version of “Blacks Lives Matter” here. A political party that controls the White House, both houses of Congress, most governorships as well as state houses is hardly some persecuted minority here.

            At first the Harvey Weinstein wasn’t big news because sexual harassment cases are so common these days that many insurance agencies actually sell policies to cover sexual harassment claims. A claim of sexual harassment against some company is as common as a parking lot fender bender accident these days.

          • jim_m

            I See. SO you equate conservative hypocrisy with sexual assault and alleged rape.

            You are repugnant. You really think that rape is the same as having a mistress? WTF Paul. Even Bruce wouldn’t be so stupid as to do that.

          • Paul Hooson

            No. My point is that the media could have really run goal posts with either of these stories if a liberal and Democratic bias actually exists to the degree that some imagine. But, sex scandals are not big news, so neither the public nor media care much…

          • Retired military

            Well the congressman quickly pulled his name out of contention for reelection.
            Also as you can see this was QUICKLY covered by ladi dadi and everybody

            https://www.google.com/search?q=republican+congressman+abortion&oq=republican+congressman+abortion&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l2.8099j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

          • Retired military

            Here you go Paul.

            http://www.tmz.com/2017/10/12/weinstein-contract-the-weinstein-company-sexual-harassment-firing-illegal/
            Harvey Weinstein may have been fired illegally by The Weinstein Company, a company that wrote a contract that said Weinstein could get sued over and over for sexual harassment and as long as he shelled out money, that was good enough for the Company.
            TMZ is privy to Weinstein’s 2015 employment contract, which says if he gets sued for sexual harassment or any other “misconduct” that results in a settlement or judgment against TWC, all Weinstein has to do is pay what the company’s out, along with a fine, and he’s in the clear.
            According to the contract, if Weinstein “treated someone improperly in violation of the company’s Code of Conduct,” he must reimburse TWC for settlements or judgments. Additionally, “You [Weinstein] will pay the company liquidated damages of $250,000 for the first such instance, $500,000 for the second such instance, $750,000 for the third such instance, and $1,000,000 for each additional instance.”

            Gee so I guess Weinstein board of directors thought it was okay to rape women as long as Weinstein paid out the cash.

          • Scalia

            You’re equating abortion hypocrisy and an affair with sexual assault??

            It has nothing to do with a “persecution complex.” It is a simple fact that if a Republican or a high-profile conservative donor on par with Weinstein had done that, the news cycle would be non-stop with attempts to link him to Trump.

            Conservatives proved with the last election that they can bypass the press; that’s not the point. You know good and well the press would be foaming at the mouth if this were a conservative.

          • Retired military

            “A political party that controls the White House, both houses of Congress, most governorships as well as state houses is hardly some persecuted minority here.”

            Except by the MSM

            Hell remember how the media tried to kill the John Edwards love child story. That was after Clinton and before Trump as well yet the media did nothing until forced to.

          • Retired military
        • jim_m

          Naturally as a man who has run strip joints predicated on exploiting young girls (ugly ones in your case) you have no problem with coercing sexual favors from women.

          The facts already in evidence are that the entirety of the liberal establishment knew of Weinstein’s behavior, accepted it and covered for it. Because deep down they do not care about rape, they do not care about sexual assault or harassment or about rights. Evidence for that is their support for Sharia law and their silence at women being the victims of honor killings and acid attacks.

          You don’t care either. You are here defending Weinstein. I suspect your history would not stand up to any scrutiny either.

          • Paul Hooson

            No, actually I spent most of my time in my office doing paperwork at the strip club and seldom ventured onto the floor because my staff managed everything on the floor including security. And, security kept people from running into my office because I often had some pretty decent chunks of money there and didn’t need problems.

            Most dancers were a single mom supporting their children where one dancer once earned $3000 for about four hours work in tips by merely dancing on the stage. She could have let McDonalds exploit her for the minimum wage for four hours work, but decided she liked $3000 better at my club…

          • Scalia

            Yeah, those young chicks you had sex with were attracted to your beard and your good looks, right?

          • Paul Hooson

            Well, a fat wallet does make up for a small cock I guess…

          • Scalia

            Which means you exploited them for your sexual pleasure. You knew good and well they’d have nothing to do with you were it not for your cash, but you waived the green paper in front of them anyway so you could get your jollies.

          • Paul Hooson

            No no no. I had a private relationship with my girlfriend only. Period. Anything else is unprofessional and completely uncool. My girlfriend was like half my age, and no doubt attracted to my achievements rather than looks.

          • jim_m

            Yes, Mr Weinstein. We believe you.

          • Scalia

            So, your bragging about your exploits with young women were lies?

          • Paul Hooson

            No. But, only with a valid girlfriend each time…

          • Scalia

            How valid were they when you’ve already admitted that they were attracted to your “fat wallet”?

            You may have convinced yourself that they were valid, but it appears you exploited them and then bragged about it on our boards.

          • jim_m

            Clearly from the comments online they are not attracted to his looks. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6d27b4c503b5212b136cdc61a1ca9100353621e181d10756d5abe7a8b877a2a4.jpg

          • Paul Hooson

            A bikini coffee barista business had an expired lease when I purchased the property and after I asked them to comply with my insurance company and City Of Portland standards as well as pay rent they refused, and instead people associated with this business used Facebook and other social media to write outrageous false attacks on my business. I threatened to sue, but they refused to remove the comments. On the way out, they used a sledgehammer to destroy the electrical hookups on the lot, costing me a great deal of money in permits and licensed electrical work to repair their damage. – You can believe my account, or you can believe these vandals, liars and thieves.

          • jim_m

            I liked the description of you as the creepy old gramps with the food filled beard

        • Retired military

          So explain again about why Trump russia peeing prostitutes made big wall to wall news stories (while not mentioning Bill Clinton’s rape allegations) and how Trump wasnt even on the scene 3 years ago when this was being investigated and NBC killed the story.
          You are being delusional Paul.

          • Paul Hooson

            I remember a good year of David Letterman making Monica Lewinsky jokes about Bill Clinton,

          • jim_m

            20 years ago.

          • Retired military

            Funny. It seems that if you dont excise the boil the infection keeps getting worse.

    • Retired military

      Here is a more likely reason why the MSM ignored the story until it was too big to ignore.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0af9078877b107fcc32817a455e115d50ab1bf91e88ab37c66d13a80d9ff3ebc.jpg

    • Retired military

      “…after Bill Clinton”

      I will take nonpolitical sex scandals since 2000 for $1000 Alex

      http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/04/who_tops_the_list_of_top_10.html

      10. Bobby Petrino, 2012: As if his motorcycle accident was not enough, the Arkansas coach was saddled with the task of answering questions regarding his affair with 25-year old Jessica Dorrell, a former Arkansas volleyball player and university employee. Petrino suffered a cracked vertebra and broken ribs as a result of the early April
      accident, then lost his job for failing to disclose that Dorrell was on the
      motorcycle with him. Petrino’s contract, which had been extended through the
      2017 season, was $3.5 million annually.

      9. Jerry Sandusky, 2011: Possibly the most
      disturbing sex scandal in sports history involves the former Penn State
      assistant coach, who was indicted on 40 counts of child molestation dating from
      1994 until 2009. The charges led to legendary head coach Joe Paterno’s firing,
      as some of the youths said they were attacked at various places on campus,
      including the football facilities.

      8. Michael Haywood, 2010: Haywood has got to
      hold the record for the shortest head-coaching stint of them all. He was hired
      away from Miami (Ohio) by Pittsburgh in December 2010 and fired by Pitt 2A1/2
      weeks later following a domestic violence charge. At the time of his dismissal,
      it was reported that Haywood had agreed to a five-year deal with an annual
      salary of $1.6 million.

      View full sizeTiger Woods

      7. Tiger Woods, 2009: The biggest
      financial loser of all them has to be superstar golfer Tiger Woods, who
      cavorted with a reported 15 mistresses. The winner of 14 major championships
      lost a whopping $22 million in sponsorship revenue in 2009, according to The
      Associated Press, plus a divorce settlement of $750 million.

      6. Rick Pitino, 2009: Kentucky and
      Louisville basketball coaching legend Rick Pitino’s one-night stand at an
      Italian restaurant turned federal when the FBI was called in after Karen
      Cunagin Sypher attempted to extort money from the veteran coach. Sypher’s
      claims included a sexual assault and pregnancy and ended with a requested
      payoff of $10 million. Sypher was convicted of lying to the FBI, extortion and
      retaliation against a witness.

      5. Tom Mutch, 2007: Also rocking the
      sports world during the spring of 2007 was the resignation of Boston College
      women’s hockey coach Tom Mutch after he was hit with allegations of
      inappropriate conduct with freshman player Kelli Stack. An anonymous source
      alleged the two had exchanged sexually graphic text messages. Mutch abruptly
      resigned.

      4. Dana Chatman, 2007: The LSU women’s
      basketball coach led the Tigers to three consecutive Final Fours before her
      coaching career came to a screeching halt in the spring of 2007 amid accusations
      of inappropriate relationships with some of her players. The university
      performed no formal inquiry and Chatman gracefully resigned. Two years prior to
      her resignation, Chatman received a four-year contract extension worth $400,000
      annually.

      View full sizeGary Barnett

      3. Gary Barnett, 2004: Barnett was
      suspended as Colorado’s football coach after it was alleged that the program
      enticed recruits with drugs, strippers and sex with escorts. To add gasoline to
      an already blazing fire, nine women, including former place-kicker Katie Hnida,
      came forth and claimed to have been sexually molested and even raped by members
      of the football team. Barnett was reinstated but eventually resig ned in
      December 2005 and accepted a $3 million buyout.

      2. Kobe Bryant, 2003: The Lakers
      superstar was accused of sexual assault against a 19-year-old hotel employee of
      The Lodge and Spa at Cordillera in Eagle County, Colo. The charges were
      eventually dropped after his accuser refused to testify. Bryant and his accuser
      settled things in civil court for an undisclosed amount of money. The known
      price tag was the loss of Bryant’s endorsement of McDonald’s as well as Nutella
      and Coca-Cola. It was reported that Bryant lost between $4 million to $6
      million in endorsement deals.

      View full sizeMike Price

      Mike Price, 2003: Price is still known for
      one of the shortest coaching stints in collegiate history. Hired in December
      2002 to replace Dennis Franchione at Alabama, Price was forced out five months
      later after news broke surrounding his trip to a Pensacola, Fla., strip club.
      The cost of his visit: no severance package and the loss of a seven-year, $10
      million contract

      Then there are other scandals such as

      Mike Tyson

      Charlie Sheen

      Paris Hilton

      The Duke University Lacrosse team

      The rolling stone fraternity rape story
      Keep on living in your fantasy liberal dream world Paul

  • Rdm42

    “Smother with a pillow” is different from “Ignore”

  • pennywit
    • Scalia

      Yes, a long read, but quite damning in one sense and huh? in another. The free and deliberate collaboration with racists is reprehensible, but the vast bulk of their work was to advance standard conservative positions. It could be an Allied pact with the Soviet Union to defeat Germany or it could be full-blown Nazism in drag. I doubt Milo, who is a Jew, is really anti-Semitic. He’s an ardent free speech advocate and PC opponent. Pushing the boundaries is up his alley. I don’t see Nazism so much as I see a willingness to harness everything, regardless the source, to achieve victory.

      The piece is rather poorly written. There’s too much advocacy and an obvious tendency to substitute innuendo for fact. Something of this importance should have been written more professionally.

      That said, unless Breitbart can somehow come clean, their management has been thoroughly discredited as abject liars. There is no way I can countenance such behavior.

      • pennywit

        There’s too much advocacy and an obvious tendency to substitute innuendo for fact. Moreover, the “huh” aspect relates to the blatant attempt by the writer to associate conservatism itself with Nazism.

        Some time back, one of the press bloggers (I can’t remember if it was Jeff Jarvis or Jay Rosen) railed against the mainstream media’s propoundment of objectivity as a value. This usually turned into “Here’s a talking head from the Left, here’s a talking head from the Right, and you figure it out.” I agree with them somewhat, and in the last couple years I’ve begun to like good agenda-driven journalism. When an outfit like Buzzfeed, ProPublica, or Mother Jones publishes a long-form investigative article, I can take their agenda into account when I read the article. It’s useful.

        • Scalia

          I don’t mind agenda-driven columns, so long as they’re presented as such. I just feel that an investigative piece ought to be objective if it is to be persuasive. Saying that conservatives that they’re Nazis because they oppose affirmative action will result in the author being automatically tuned out, even by moderates. If the author plays that fast and loose with the facts, what else is s/he manipulating? That’s partly why a piece like this needs to be objective.

          • pennywit

            Well, if you’re looking for objective journalism in Breitbart or Mother Jones, you’re in the wrong place.

            I’ve weighed it a lot in the last dozen years or so. At my end, I’ve decided that it’s more important for a news report to be fair than to be unbiased.

          • Scalia

            Well, if you’re looking for objective journalism in Breitbart or Mother Jones, you’re in the wrong place.

            Not necessarily. Any writer can be objective if s/he tries. Some writers, of course, are better at it than others. In your link, the author referred to an email from somebody looking jokes about fat people. Really?? I just rolled my eyes thought, gimme a break.

      • pennywit

        It could be an Allied pact with the Soviet Union to defeat Germany or it could be full-blown Nazism in drag. I doubt Milo, who is a Jew, is really anti-Semitic. He’s an ardent free speech advocate and PC opponent. Pushing the boundaries is up his alley. I don’t see Nazism so much as I see a willingness to harness everything, regardless the source, to achieve victory.

        This metaphor disturbs me. Scalia, I disagree with nearly everything you say. I think you are on the wrong side of nearly every issue. And you have questionable taste in football teams. You have a particular agenda for this country, and you have a right to advance it. I have a right to oppose that agenda — hell I think some of your agenda may be bad for this country. But if somebody is throwing a brick at your office, I’m not going to stand by while he’s doing it or offer him approbation while he does it because you’re a dirty Republican.

        You’re an American. So am I. That’s the first, most important thing here. And I am not going to cultivate an alliance with a bigot who thinks you’re any less of an American. That way lies madness and dissolution.

        Which is why I don’t think Breitbart should be cultivating the neo-Nazis. And why I am very wary of the left wing — is the moderate left disclaiming antifa? Or is the moderate left cultivating a relationship with the more violent far left? I have a feeling I might not like the answer.

        • Scalia

          Well, like I said, I think their interaction with racists is reprehensible. Unless, they can somehow prove that the emails are fraudulent, they’ve been thoroughly discredited.

        • jim_m

          What do you define as the moderate left? Clearly the democrats are far from united in disclaiming antifa. It took forever and a day for anyone on the left to characterize them as anything but brave souls standing up to white supremacists.

          It has been obvious for many years now that the left is more than willing to accept violence committed on behalf of their agenda. I believe that the left has widely adopted the “By Any Means Necessary” dictum and those who are not willing to commit the violence are more than willing to financially sponsor it r at the very least to excuse it or turn a blind eye toward it because they see the silencing of opponents as an undiluted good.

        • Then you need to work on getting your side to renounce identity politics…

        • Scalia

          And you have questionable taste in football teams.

          I felt the Lion defense was very bad, and it was very evident yesterday. Prior to the last two losses, the Kook-Aid drinkers in Detroit had them winning 12 games and promising they would make the playoffs. I tried to remind a few of them that this was way too early in the season to make pronouncements like that. They’re so hungry for a successful team, any sign of success sends them into Never Land.

          • pennywit

            I didn’t watch the game, but I saw the score — 52-38. I read that and I was thinking, “What kind of defense allows 38 points? Or 52, for that matter?” That’s more like a college ball score.

          • Scalia

            Although the 52 points weren’t all on the Lion defense (Stafford threw a pick-six, so did Brees), they were just awful.

  • Walter_Cronanty

    A Rabbi who gets it. It’s a long article, but well worth the read – here are but a few highlights:

    …He stared at me. Folded his arms. Sat back in the chair and said, “OK, what’s the question?” I smiled and said with total confidence, “The question your congregants ask more than any other is…’Why are Jews Democrats?’” His jaw dropped. He was dumbfounded. He laughed. “You’re right. How did you know?” I responded, “Whenever I have a serious conversation with a non-Jew, that is the question they always ask.” I understand why historically we gravitated to the Democratic Party. It was comfortable. Its agenda was social justice. Minority rights. It stood for the prophetic and rabbinic dream of “letakein olam bimalchut Shadai” (“to repair the world in Godly fashion”). We could never see ourselves sidling up to cigar smoking, pinky-ring wearing, over fed corporate executives. The right was wrong. A Jewish Republican was a family embarrassment. Well friends, we now live in different times. I report. You decide. …

    Good Democratic liberals who get it, are hanging on by their fingertips but they are becoming an endangered species in an increasingly progressive Democratic Party that has lost its way and is doubling down on the madness of the Left, not the sanity of the center. …

    We must open our eyes to the dishonesty of the Left. We must open our ears to their unholy rants. We must open our minds and discredit their unprincipled, ruinous ideology. With uncompromising courage, we must assert the real meaning of liberty, not the nonsense peddled by an arrogant left. Let our voices be raised and let our fists pound, as we take back our country from these seditious villains. …

    America has done more uplifting of humanity and promotion of freedom than any other country in the history of this planet. We Jews have been blessed beyond our wildest fantasies, enjoying her gifts, her bounty, her grace but we must step away from what is happening and not be seduced by a deceitful, pandering mirage. The Left is not our friend, not as Americans and not as Jews.

    Freedom courses through our blood. It throbs in our soul.

    It is no accident that on the Liberty Bell are written the words from our Torah, “Ukratem dror ba’aretz” (“Proclaim liberty throughout the land and to all the inhabitants thereof”). The treasure that is America and the poetry that is Judaism are joined together in a hallowed union that rang across spacious skies, fruited plains and majestic purple mountains.

    We are good folks and must see beyond the moral bankruptcy, the hypocrisy, the lies, the hatred and the calamity of an ascendant Left.

    • Scalia

      Excellent!

      • Walter_Cronanty

        Yes, I thought it was an excellent “sermon.” Would that more Christian churches would be as bold.

        • pennywit

          I did not care for it, honestly. I’m sympathetic to some of his individual points, but the gentleman’s extended diatribe against the “ascendant left” seems like political paranoia and an over-generalization to me.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            There can be no doubt that the far left is in ascendance, especially in the D party, which I believed was the point of the Rabbi’s speech. This is undoubtedly true when looking at Israel vis-a-vis the terrorist regimes in the Middle East and the Ds’ BDS movement.

        • pennywit

          PS. I notice the Browns are on track for a perfect season.

          • Walter_Cronanty

            Because of the players’ disrespect of our anthem and flag, I haven’t watched a down of pro-football in 3 weeks [other than highlights that might come on a sports network – other than ESPN]. I will admit to wanting to watch very much, but I simply can’t.
            That being said, I have kept up on the Browns’ long and arduous march to perfection through the local newspaper and some local sports talk shows. The Browns’ lousiness, both in the front office and on the field, is quite extraordinary. Sashi Brown should be pro-football’s executive of the year for how he’s improved the Houston Texans.