Pamela Rogers, for 15 counts of sexual battery and 13 of stautory rape.

She's a teacher.

Pamela Rogers Turner, actually. She was a PE teacher and coach. She lived with the victim's family for a while.

Britany Spears? Charged with poor taste in music and being a slut?

That's either Ida Know or Ida Care.

Every teenage boy's fantasy.

(Well, all except for the 5% who are gay).

For giving herself a Wet Willie in a white pickup truck?

Honestly, I don't get these women, are they really that hard up. I mean when I look at 14 year old boys, I do not think "potential sex partner"

I don't care what her name is or what she is facing! I just hope they make a movie!

Paris Hilton for falsely, and repeatedly, reporting a lost poodle which subsequently tied up valuable anti-terrier resources.

Look at her. Dressed like a complete slutty whore. And look at what she did, corrupting young boys. Society truly has no VALUES anymore. It's disgusting.

Maybe some kind of female circumcision is in order to curb her raging hormonal behaviour! Would be similar to castration for male rapists.

And people joking about the crime should be disgusted with themselves. Unless of course, you think underage CHILDREN having sex is a joke.

A female rapist is the same as a male one. a Rapist.

My wife and I were discussing this recently when we heard about a teacher in the DC area having a relationship with an underage student.
Maybe my memory is bad but is this just a recent phenomenon or is it something that had been happening for a long time and just recently taken seriously?
Back in my day (80's), with the exception for the random scuzzy male gym teacher, I never heard of female teachers using the male student population as boy toys until recently.

Are the schools are loosening the standards and are allowing people to teach that would have been weeded out in some sort of psych profiling battery?

In case anybody was wondering, I’m not yet disgusted with myself.

'Dressed like a complete slutty whore. '

Still working on those issues, huh?

Miss Pamela Rogers and Mr. Christopher Turner exchanged their wedding vows July 26, 2003.

I have a feeling they are not going to see their second anniversary...

jmaster,
Sorry, my mind was wandering.
Here ya go:
Jmaster! You ought to be disgusted with yourself!!

I don't know that this stuff didn't happen, I just wonder if it doesn't get reported more.

Hard to say.

Either way, I still don't understand what the appeal is, in a 14 year old to an adult-I just can't see 14 year olds as somebody to have sex with, shoot, they are barely older than my daughter.

Mr. Hackeny:

Not all things we use the word "rape" for are moral equivalents. Unfortunately, the word rape is used for both non consensual sex, (rape-rape) and consensual sex where one or both of the actors is the local age limit for sex (statutory rape).

While a female rape-rapist is the moral equivalent of a male rape-rapist, a female heterosexual statutory rapist isn't the moral equivalent of a male heterosexual statutory rapist.

Our moral sexual intuitions are not the same because we don't feel the same way about an underage girl having sex as we do about an underage boy having sex (although our political intuitions tells us they should be the same, or at least get us to outwardly pretend they are the same).

Regardless what we think should think politically, that teacher is HOT! and the 14 year old boy got lucky. (while of course we would have felt a 14 year old girl would have had her some special aspect of her ("innocence" perhaps) stolen away from her.)

Speaking as an ex-14 year old boy, I would have crawled across broken glass to be 'abused' by a P.E. teacher who looked like that.

Politically incorrect, I know, but guys are like that.

Lemme guess... Daddy coaches girls' basketball for 29 years... think he has any skeletons in his closet when his daughter grows up to do this?

Anyone read that recent SI article on that Denver area girls' hoops coach? Creep-city.

Why are these women teachers all hot blondes in their 20's anyways? Damn that LeTourneau.....

Man is she incredibly stupid for having sex with a minor. Man is he incredibly lucky for having a blazing hot gym teacher who is stupid! If there is one (straight) male who says he wouldn't have been all over that when he was 14, I wouldn't believe him.

"While a female rape-rapist is the moral equivalent of a male rape-rapist, a female heterosexual statutory rapist isn't the moral equivalent of a male heterosexual statutory rapist. "

I totally disagree.

Statutory rape isn't about the consent of the child, but the responsibilty of the adult involved.

An adult female that has sex with a 14 year old student is just as guilty as an adult male that has sex with a 14 year old student. Teachers are in the position of responsibility, they are the ADULTS in the relationship, and should understand that even if the 14 year old has the hots for them, that it is not appropriate or legal to act on them.

She is a rapist by statute, and should go to prison for it.

I kind of agree with Scott on this one. Yes, what the woman did was wrong, both morally and legally. And the fact that she was a teacher makes it even worse. But I know if I was the boy, I would have wanted it to happen. That’s all I’m saying.

I am not now, nor have I ever been a female. And I have done a lousy job over the years trying to figure out how the female mind works. So I can’t speculate on how things might be different if it were a male teacher and a female student in this case.

Now, as a mental exercise, lets assume this same 14 year old boy jumped this teacher as she was leaving school one day, and stabs her to death. Maybe he just rapes her. Should he be treated as an adult in these situations?

"She is a rapist by statute, and should go to prison for it."

No doubt about that. But it still doesn't change the fact that while she is sitting in prison, he will be telling stories to his friends, getting high-fived and hearing "Way to go" a lot. I am speaking from experience as an ex 14 year old boy. Like it or not, that is the difference between boys and girls.

I won't deny that a 14 year old boy wouldn't jump at the chance to go to bed with his very hot teacher, but don't assume that 14 year old girls aren't willing to jump into bed with their very hot male teachers. Satutory rape is about whether or not the 14 year old of either gender is pressumed capable of consent, and according to the laws of the state she lives in, a 14 year old is deemed incapable of that consent. I knew a girl in middle school, who at 12 looked like an adult. She would have sex with almost any male willing to do it with her, and she happily bragged about her conquests. Now, because she was bragging, does that mean the adult men she had sex with, aren't guilty of anything?

The gender of the minor shouldn't and doesn't make a difference, the law says teachers shouldn't be doing it, and they should be held equally accountable.

I agree with many of the posters here who think this kid is going to have serious bragging material. But that's just the outward sign. You think there was never a young nymphette who bragged about seducing her (male) history or english teacher? Think again.

The internalized problems are bigger, however. Feminists have been making the case for years about all the internalized psychological damage done to women who are so treated, yet no one has ever credibly asked about the internalized psychological damage done to boys (and sometimes men). How many privately found the experience terrifying? How many have trouble developing healthy romantic relationships with women three, four, ten years down the road?

Society has demanded that these questions be asked on behalf of girls. It's time to demand that the same questions be asked on behalf of boys, regardless of male braggadocio.

He might start feeling more than a bit guilty that his hot teacher is now going to spend most of her adult life in the slammer.

I've been wondering about this lately ...

Starting with the Kinsey Report and advancing through the 1960's and 1970's, "progressives" have steadily chipped the veneer off virtually every sexual taboo - except* adult sex with pre-teen and teenage children; that is, children old enough to have either reached puberty or to be aware of their sexuality and know that they are engaging in a sexual act.

I read an article a few weeks ago on Drudge about the shocking content of films at this year's Sundance Film Festival. You can read the story here: http://www.variety.com/VR1117917076.html

Each of the films mentioned in the article included characters of children 7 - 14 involved in activity, some of it brutal, that centered around sexuality.

And now we have this story, and the one a few months ago, also referenced here on WizBang as "Hot for Teacher."

Which makes me wonder ... will the combination of the shock content of films (which raised nary an eyebrow) and the notariety given to these school cases, particularly since they are female-male, lead to a head-on push by the leftist custodians of popular culture to desensitize us to the notion of consensual teen and pre-teen sex relationships with adult men and women?

Again, just a thought.

* I remembered Nabokov's "Lolita"; I'm not familiar enough with the novel to make points about it, but I seem to recall that it dealt with Humbert Humbert being driven nuts by an attractive teenager, and not with sexual expolits of Lolita. Anyone can correct this if I'm wrong.

This is what society has done to women, turned us into the men we hated. I knew a male coach in 7th grade who slept with one the cheerleaders. I thought it was completely sick. The thought of a female teacher doing that never entered my mind.

The signs of our times.

Rape is nearly always about power, not sex.

And how come she missed two? 13 sexual battery and 15 stat rape?

Just Me:

I hear what you're saying, but the criminal law reflects usually differences based on the amount of harm actually inflicted on the victim. Attempted Homicide is not the same crime, nor receives the same punishement as Homicide.

Our moral sexual intuitions reflect that the actual harm inflicted on the 14 year old boy by consensual sex with an adult female is minimal (further differentiated by employing a sliding scale based on "hotness" of the chick), but the actual harm feels to us greater when the 14 year old is a girl. It just does.

Politically, we can't tolerate having criminal laws that reflect that difference in moral intuition though - that it's okay (or punished less) to have heretosexual sex with a 14 year old if you're a woman than it is for a man to do it.

As a consequence, the teacher here may have to spend up to 100 years in prison because we feel politcally bound by the "no double standard" sentiment to treat her the same as a man, but all our intuitions say 'I wish I was that "victim"'.

Sometimes the lack of a double standard can be screwed up too.

It is the latest thing for "progressive" teachers. remember the first big one in Wash. about 10 years ago. She was a junior exec in the campaing of the newly elected (stolen election) Gov.

I don't know, Ray. There are studies out there that boys are adversely affected enough that they have been treating the crimes equally. Also, how would you feel if a 14 y/o boy was having sex with his hot male gym teacher?

I will not speak to the morality of it, or whether the laws are just in this case. I'd just like to point out that this is what you get from years and years and years of radical feminism shoving down our throats (I was going to type "at gunpoint" but that would have been a little too wryly ironic) that girls are in all ways exactly identical to boys. Girls are sensitive and vulnerable about sexuality, and so must be little boys, so innocent are they.

Bullshit.

Most straight men in this forum would have slaughtered a bus full of nuns to get some of that when they were 14 years old. I'm not proud of that, but it's called *biology* -- it's how we're wired. Until a few centuries ago (in the West, and still today in a number of other cultures), most 14-year-olds would already be looking at marriage. I'm not trying to defend the teacher's behavior -- regardless of moral issues, the legal consequences are huge -- but I think the way people are trying to treat this exactly as if the sexes had been reversed is just ignorant. BOYS =/= GIRLS, plain and simple.

BTW the one in Wash had four kids by her husband ( or so they say) and two by the Jr. High kid, who is now an adult. IT is not because they are "hard up" it is because it is "progressive" and intelectually stimulating.

Forget broken glass, when I was 14 I would have crawled on my hands and knees through half a mile of freshly congealed lava atop mount Kilauea.

I don't know if the single picture does her justice, or if it makes her look better than she normally does, but if that's what the girl looks like all the time, then I do believe she's a walking resolution for those young men who are feeling uncertain about their sexuality.

Politically incorrect? You betcha, but then the truth has a funny way of being like that.

Where were the teachers like this when I was a freshman in high school? I had to wait till I was a senior for a teacher to show an interest in me, and I was still too young and clueless to figure it out at the time. Now I'm not-so-young but still almost as clueless.

So child molestation should only be prosecuted if it is a girl/man or a boy/man? If it is a boy/woman it's a pass?