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If you look carefully at th... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Eric | March 10, 2005 4:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If you look carefully at the video you'll see that he didn't actually shoot himself. Its hard to see but a cat runs into the room, grabs the gun and shoots him.
1. Posted by Eric | March 10, 2005 4:00 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 16:00
2. Posted by Eric | March 10, 2005 4:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Since the incident in Orlando the DEA agent has moved to Bates Township, Michigan in order to start a new life and get away from the embarrassment of the shooting in Orlando. Officer Stanton has said he has learned his lesson about gun safety.
2. Posted by Eric | March 10, 2005 4:04 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 16:04
3. Posted by mesablue | March 10, 2005 5:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's more stupid than funny, a "professional" not knowing that his weapon is loaded and then releasing the slide and sticking it back into the holster with his finger in the trigger guard.
At least he tried to carry on, I've been shot before (not by myself) and the words that came out of my mouth were a lot less pleasant.
I've got TWO cats, I'll be treating them a little nicer from now on.
3. Posted by mesablue | March 10, 2005 5:23 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 17:23
4. Posted by Red | March 10, 2005 5:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I'm the only professional in this room capable of handling this Glock".
Ooops. What is most amazing is when the gun went off the kid really didn't jump. How hard core are these kids?
4. Posted by Red | March 10, 2005 5:57 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 17:57
5. Posted by Remy Logan | March 10, 2005 6:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Another professional gun-snot learns the lessons of life the hard way:
1) Your gun is loaded, even if you think it's not.
2) Never point your gun at anything you don't want to destroy or kill.
3) See #1 -- regardless of what you think or "know".
5. Posted by Remy Logan | March 10, 2005 6:15 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 18:15
6. Posted by skeeta | March 10, 2005 6:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Did he really shoot himself? I mean it didn't seem to affect him that much. Did the bullet just graze him?
6. Posted by skeeta | March 10, 2005 6:16 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 18:16
7. Posted by Henry | March 10, 2005 6:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
He was a moron. He emptied the chamber pulling the slide back, but to REALLY make sure it is completely unloaded you need to REMOVE THE CLIP. That's probably what he didn't do. Then later he closed the slide, which probably automatically chambered a round. Not only that, the safety was off.
Professional indeed.
7. Posted by Henry | March 10, 2005 6:24 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 18:24
8. Posted by Rich | March 10, 2005 6:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actually that was Running Back Ricky Williams trying out his new job as a gun safety instructor. Guess they need to keep better watch on their urine tests.
I like comments at the end..."get the other gun"
heh..the one that was really not loaded.
8. Posted by Rich | March 10, 2005 6:40 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 18:40
9. Posted by cirby | March 10, 2005 6:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The really hard part about firearm safety is that they're Schrodinger devices. Every firearm is both loaded and unloaded at the same time.
When you need them to be unloaded, they have a bullet in the chamber, ready to fire.
When you *really* need one to be loaded, they make that really sad "click" which tells you you need more ammo.
9. Posted by cirby | March 10, 2005 6:53 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 18:53
10. Posted by andre3000 | March 10, 2005 7:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actually that was Running Back Ricky Williams
I was going to teach a gun safety class, but then I got high...
10. Posted by andre3000 | March 10, 2005 7:11 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 19:11
11. Posted by tpmac | March 10, 2005 8:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actually, I am a bit impressed that he carried on the presentation and even turned the incident into a object lesson on gun safety......real showman
11. Posted by tpmac | March 10, 2005 8:13 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 20:13
12. Posted by DAveP. | March 10, 2005 9:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Law #1: Keep your damn finger OUT of the trigger guard!
"professional enough to handle a Glock", my tukus. Hope it hurt, you smarmy git.
12. Posted by DAveP. | March 10, 2005 9:07 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 21:07
13. Posted by Big J | March 10, 2005 10:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Common guys this guy did not shoot himself. If so he would be crying like a baby, noneless say give me the other gum. It was a set-up with blanks.
13. Posted by Big J | March 10, 2005 10:22 PM |
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Posted on March 10, 2005 22:22
14. Posted by Tim in PA | March 11, 2005 11:48 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You're all missing an even more important gun safety rule:
DON'T PULL OUT A LOADED WEAPON IN A ROOM FULL OF SCHOOLKIDS JUST SO YOU CAN LOOK COOL.
There is NEVER any reason to draw a loaded weapon outside of a firing range, even for instructional purposes, unless you intend to SHOOT something.
Duh!
14. Posted by Tim in PA | March 11, 2005 11:48 AM |
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Posted on March 11, 2005 11:48
15. Posted by Matt | March 11, 2005 1:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Big J (and others),
Yes, he absolutely did shoot himself. Read the news reports on the incident. The lecture ended shortly after the point where this video cuts off, and the guy was taken to the hospital and treated.
I've read accounts by and had conversations with a fair number of people who've been shot. (Most of them by someone else.) Many say that it didn't hurt much at first. Others say it's intensely painful from the get-go. It seems to depend on a lot of variables.
A undercover police officer friend of mine put a bullet through his ass -- literally -- practicing drawing and firing from concealment. (His undercover role was that of a Mexican gang-banger and drug dealer -- he is of Mexican descent and bilingual -- so he carried in the back waistband of his pants, like a good gang-banger.) The bullet entered his left butt cheek from the top right, traveled down and to the left, and exited the left side of his cheek. It hit muscle, too, not just fat.
Nevertheless, he drove himself to a hospital about fifteen miles away for treatment, because he was too embarrassed to call the dispatcher and request an ambulance. He said it didn't really start to hurt for ten or fifteen minutes, but by the time he got to the hospital he was climbing the walls in pain.
In other words, I have no problem believing this guy was able to function for a while after popping himself in the leg. Especially if he's a fairly tough bastard, which he looks to be. People have done far more with worse wounds.
15. Posted by Matt | March 11, 2005 1:08 PM |
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Posted on March 11, 2005 13:08
16. Posted by James | March 11, 2005 3:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
A couple of milbloggers have posted about squad members hiding injuries to stay in the field, and apparently it's an epidemic large enough to attract the attention of top brass. Some people can just take the pain better. You've gotta admire that kind of hardass -- Matt, no pun intended to your Mexican friend ;-)
16. Posted by James | March 11, 2005 3:19 PM |
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Posted on March 11, 2005 15:19
17. Posted by Shoikey's Machine | March 12, 2005 4:18 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
A couple of things: The report made it sound as if as the slide was release forward the agent shot himself...the video doesn't show that. He was holding the weapon up and release the slide forward, THEN he attempted to holster the weapon. Looks to me as if he holstered a weapon while his finger was in the trigger guard, hence the discharge..
First thing you do to make the Glock 22 (40 cal) weapon safe is to remove the source of ammo...a.k.a. the magazine....rack the slide several times to eject the round that is in the chamber...and then you visually and with your finger check the chamber to make sure there's no round in the chamber.
Oh by the way...Glocks don't have a typical safety where you click a button and the trigger won't pull. The safety on a Glock is a mini trigger that sits in the middle of the main trigger. You have to squeeze the mini trigger in order to engage the trigger.
I commend the agent for not panicking and keeping his head...however he should've been more focused on clearing that weapon.
17. Posted by Shoikey's Machine | March 12, 2005 4:18 AM |
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Posted on March 12, 2005 04:18
18. Posted by Pfister | March 13, 2005 11:04 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Video is fake. I'm not buying it at all. It doesn't match well enough with the news stories, and I'm way too suspicious for it having appeared a full year after the incident was first reported.
Lies, and you all fell for them.
18. Posted by Pfister | March 13, 2005 11:04 AM |
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Posted on March 13, 2005 11:04
19. Posted by Jack | October 18, 2005 8:06 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's not that the safety was off... Glock's don't have an active safety like you're thinking about, Henry.
Anyways, the news articles at the time made it sound like the weapon went off accidentally when he released the slide. That clearly didn't happen, as the gun was right up in the air above his head when he released the slide.
He made a careless mistake, and so did the agent who helped him inspect the weapon. It was clearly half-empty.
19. Posted by Jack | October 18, 2005 8:06 AM |
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Posted on October 18, 2005 08:06
20. Posted by alex | December 14, 2005 3:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I ALSO HAVE TWO CATS AND I DANG SURE GOING TO TREAT THEM RIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE COUPLE OF WEAPONS AT HOME. :)
BY THE WAY, THE OTHER DUDE IS RIGHT, GLOCKS DON'T HAVE SAFETY, THEY HAVE A SMALL TRIGGER RIGHT ON TOP OF THE CENTER TRIGGER. IN ORDER TO FIRE THE WEAPON YOU MUST PULL BOTH. IT'S A SEFETY BUT I DON'T REALLY COUNT IT AS ONE CAUSE IS IN A STUPID PLACE. AND IF THE VIDEO IS REAL I'M GLAD HE SHOT HIMSELF TO REMIND HIM THAT YOU ARE NEVER TOO "PROFESSIONAL" TO THINK THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT GUN SAFETY.
20. Posted by alex | December 14, 2005 3:10 PM |
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Posted on December 14, 2005 15:10