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Nader Back on Florida Ballot

Just what Kerry doesn't need... Another problem.

Florida OK's Nader's Name on Election Ballot

MIAMI (Reuters) - Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader's name can appear on Florida ballots for the election, despite a court order to the contrary, Florida's elections chief told officials on Monday in a move that could help President Bush in the key swing state.

The Florida Democratic Party reacted with outrage, calling the move "blatant partisan maneuvering" by Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's younger brother, and vowed to fight it.

So much for the lie about Democrats wanting to make every vote count.

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Comments (16)

- Those Mofo #@^%$^&%#% For... (Below threshold)
Hunter:

- Those Mofo #@^%$^&%#% Forida weenies...How could they do this....He's not even an american like us...He's from Oregon....

What is wrong with Kerry? W... (Below threshold)
firstbrokenangel:

What is wrong with Kerry? What is wrong with Nader being on the ticket? He's on almost all the states ticket so why the big deal if his name is on the Florida ballot? To be on any ballot, you need so many names, cost and so on and if Nader did what he had to do to get on the ballot, what right does Kerry have to say anything about it INCLUDING blaming President Bush??? Nader being on the ballot is not either Bush's fault so why doesn't he just grow up and get over it?
~C

So much for the lie abou... (Below threshold)

So much for the lie about Democrats wanting to make every vote count.

There's a local talk show host in New York City named Mark Levin. He's an attorney and constitutional expert with the Landmark Legal Foundation. Anyway, Levin is unbelievably funny. He runs a commercial he made telling people to suppress the vote by talking Liberals into staying home on election day. It's hysterically funny.

"The Florida Democratic ... (Below threshold)
JM Hanes:

"The Florida Democratic Party reacted with outrage, calling the move "blatant partisan maneuvering" by Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's younger brother, and vowed to fight it."

ROTFL! The Dems line up a regular cavalcade of lawyers to boot a hapless Nader off the ballot by judicial fiat at the last possible moment -- and then vow to fight Republican maneuvering. Gotta love it. Who's going to tell them to relax, they've already lost that fight?

So now we know that democra... (Below threshold)
Branna:

So now we know that democrats will use the courts to steal elections if they can't win them. Let's look at the record....

Gore...2000

Torricelli/Lautenberg....2002

McGreevey....2004

Make every vote count? Does that include election theft?

BUSH/CHENEY 2004

Making someone follow the r... (Below threshold)
Dave:

Making someone follow the rules to get on the ballot in a particular state does not stop votes from getting counted.

All of those Nader voters can still vote for GWB, another third party candidate (even the Green Candidate) or simply WRITE IN NADER's name.

So I do not know what all of the hullaballu is about saying Democrats do not want every vote to count just because they want Ralph Nader to follow the election rules for getting on state ballots and challenging faulty applications/petitions.

Dave

Yeah well Dave, if democrat... (Below threshold)
Branna:

Yeah well Dave, if democrats can steal elections & deny people the right to vote as in states like NJ, then I guess Ralph Nader can GET ON THE BALLOT IN FLORIDA! I'm not so sure however, that he broke any election laws.

See what happens when election laws are broken & party politics becomes more important than the people?

Yeah well Dave, if democrat... (Below threshold)
Branna:

Yeah well Dave, if democrats can steal elections & deny people the right to vote as in states like NJ, then I guess Ralph Nader can GET ON THE BALLOT IN FLORIDA! I'm not so sure however, that he broke any election laws.

See what happens when election laws are broken & party politics becomes more important than the people?

Smile when you say that, Hu... (Below threshold)

Smile when you say that, Hunter, some of us are damned proud to be Americans, Republicans, AND Oregonians.

And it looks like we got Nader on the ballot here, too, so I *AM* smiling.

Nader didn't break any elec... (Below threshold)
firstbrokenangel:

Nader didn't break any election laws. He did exactly what the state required. The point is--- Kerry and the Democrats are blaming Governor Bush and President Bush for even allowing it even though Nader filled his quota. It's not THEIR fault he got on the ballot; he got on it by following the rules and Kerry has no right whatsoever to say anything about it.

Somebody shut him up please.

~C

Also, check out my take on ... (Below threshold)

Also, check out my take on the Nader issue. As delightful as I think it is that Nader's making trouble, I think the "Official" Republican Party line anythime they're asked should be to back the Dems. It won't make a lick of a difference in how the courts rule, it defuses the Democratic rhetoric about us trying to steal the election from them, and it puffs up Nader's "martyr" image, which in contrarian states like Oregon, will make some hard leftists MORE likely to vote for him instead of Nader.

People in NJ have not denie... (Below threshold)
Dave:

People in NJ have not denied anyone the vote. Unless people have something to charge McGreevy with to impeach him, he has every right to resign on his schedule for what he believes is in the best interest of the state.

He was elected by a majority of NJ citizens.

In terms of NJ having no LT Governor position, that is an issue that should be resolved but that is not McGreevy's fault.

Dave

People in NJ have not denie... (Below threshold)
Dave:

People in NJ have not denied anyone the vote. Unless people have something to charge McGreevy with to impeach him, he has every right to resign on his schedule for what he believes is in the best interest of the state.

He was elected by a majority of NJ citizens.

In terms of NJ having no LT Governor position, that is an issue that should be resolved but that is not McGreevy's fault.

Dave

And on the Torricelli/Laute... (Below threshold)
Dave:

And on the Torricelli/Lautenberg issue, the voters of NJ had a chance to say no to the candidate switch (which was perfectly legal) and I guess the supposedly stupid people of NJ (which includes me) decided that Lautenberg was better than the alternative Conservative Republican.

There was no stolen election there, the voters had ample time to decide for themselves, I understand you disagree with their decision but I do not see the "stolen election" here either.

Dave

Well Dave...I see there's n... (Below threshold)
Branna:

Well Dave...I see there's no sense in talking to someone like yourself who's too partisan to see the injustice in what's happening in NJ. Election laws WERE broken in this Torricelli/Lautenberg flap & if McGreevey is resigning then he should go too & let people vote for another gov in nov. The only ones who TRIED to steal any election was GORE! The MO is there. I know everyone now is thankful that democrats didn't get their way. They would sell this country down the tubes in typical girlie men fashion.

This is nothing more than the typical lib "THUG" mentality & people like yourself disgust me with your intellectual dishonesty & outlandish lies at a critical time in our country.

Another reason why BUSH WILL win!

This is a much larger issue... (Below threshold)
Tim:

This is a much larger issue than making every vote count. If you have any doubt about that, look for all the Republicans who are helping to try to get Nader on ballots around the country. It's happening everywhere. This has turned into a partisan struggle that happens to be fueled by a man with an ego.

The system is much more complicated than most of you make it out to be. What does it mean to all of you that in 2000, the man who got the most votes didn't win the election? Perhaps THAT is the problem with our electoral system? The electoral college once served a purpose, but that purpose was to allow educated individuals to elect governing officers. We have television and the Internet now, so an electoral college is no longer necessary.

Finally, Branna, as far as the 2000 election is concerned... Are you familiar with all the events that happened in Florida? I mean, the ones that weren't in the media every 5 seconds? Jeb purged a list of voters, because their names were on lists of POSSIBLE (not confirmed) felons. That means, if your name was John Smith, and your name was the same as a possible felon, your voting RIGHT was revoked, and you had to fill out paperwork and PAY MONEY to get it back. The system is corrupt.




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