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Some things just shouldn't be outsourced

The other day I was in a convenience store. As I was checking out, I noticed an assortment of those magnetic ribbons that are becoming more and more popular. This store had 'em all -- gold, stars and stripes, camouflage, and pink (for breast cancer). I was just about to buy one (I liked the flag motif one) when, on a hunch, I flipped the package over.

MADE IN TAIWAN

Now, I have a great deal of respect for the Republic of China. They've stood face-to-face with Communist China (no, I will NOT call them "The People's Republic of China") for over fifty years, despite dire threats and being vastly outnumbered. They've been good and loyal friends of ours (although, to be perfectly honest, they really don't have a great deal of choice -- we help guarantee their freedom), despite the way we've treated them over the years. I find it shameful how we let Communist China bully us into minimizing our relations with them and shutting them out of the United Nations.

But there are some things that simply shouldn't be imported. Patriotic symbols, of all things, should be made in the USA.

I left the ribbons sitting, unpurchased, on the counter. I wanted one, and I like the shopkeeper, but I just couldn't bring myself to buy them.

J.


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- Jay.... you realize you'r... (Below threshold)
Hunter:

- Jay.... you realize you're leaving yourself wide open here for accusations of "Ribbon bigotry" from 1/2 of the Democraps. Of course if you had bought one you would have suffered dirision from the other half for supporting asian labor sweat shops...

- Aometimes its usfull to make it all clear just to think of the left as a giant circular firing squad...

Don't think of it as outsou... (Below threshold)

Don't think of it as outsourcing. Think of it as exporting pro-Americanism.

(Not that Taiwan isn't more loyal to the U.S. than we've sometimes been to them. Going along with booting them from the UN in favor of the ChiComs wasn't the act of a loyal friend. Then again, considering where the UN has gone since then...)

I wonder what your reaction... (Below threshold)

I wonder what your reaction would have been if it was made in Vietnam.

Jay, shoot me an email if y... (Below threshold)

Jay, shoot me an email if you would like me to check out the exchange here on base for one USA made. I'll take a closer look and pick one up for you if you like. Don't worry about any kind of payment. Consider it thanks from a Marine for your support.

I think we should relax abo... (Below threshold)
troglodyte:

I think we should relax about this. Folks all over the world have to make a living. I remember many years ago when my mother visited San Francisco and bought a pair of ear rings made in the Chinese character for "good luck". She got all the way back to T-town, Alabama before she read the inscription "made in Italy". If the folks in Taiwan can produce a really great American flag at a really good price, I'll be the one to fly it.

troglodyte has THE clue; pr... (Below threshold)
MIKEY:

troglodyte has THE clue; probably cheaper production/acquisition costs, and the message still gets out. AND they have stood with US more often than WE have stood with them.

My car - Made in Germany<br... (Below threshold)

My car - Made in Germany
My Satelite radio - Made in Japan
My magnetic ribbon - Made in Taiwan

The baseball bat I used to knock some sence into a twenty something, peacenick freak who thought that he could intimidate a woman - ALL AMERICAN - 25oz Northern White Ash - Louisville slugger.

And in the end, that's all that realy matters.

The Republic of China today... (Below threshold)
heyniceboard:

The Republic of China today is actually fading away. In a decade or so it will either be an SAR of the People's Republic of China (that is their name regardless of how you want to call them) or the Republic of Taiwan.

And no, I don't think patriotic materials necessarily must be Made in the USA. The freedom and opportunity that you so proudly propagate is not possible without trade. Millions of Mainland Chinese and Taiwanese workers would still be in poverty if not for the fewer sanctions and restrictions toward trade. Mainland China and Taiwan (the Taiwan ROC was not always free as you pleasantly imagine) are freer precisely because of trade with the United States and other free nations (Taiwan began trading with the US two decades earlier than the Mainland). Anyone who has been to the Mainland in recent years can attest to the dramatic positive consequences of economic liberation on one's freedom and standard of living. To believe that freedom can only be obtained with the symbolic blessing of the US is rather ridiculous. Freedom is instead obtained first and foremost by economic liberation. Stubbornly calling the Mainland "Communist China" will not change the reality that economic liberation has brought freedom and prosperity to millions of Chinese.

The hypocrisy in your post is quite unbelievable. To impose sanctions, penalties and steps against economic liberation, while simultaneously preaching freedom. For what can only be strategic reasons, you would rather opt for hundreds of millions of Mainland Chinese to have suffered more years of sanctions and isolation (if denied UN entry back in the 1970's).

- a Chinese-American Republican.

Jay Tea, sorry for putting ... (Below threshold)
heyniceboard:

Jay Tea, sorry for putting words in your mouth, but the vibes I get from your post was just too blatant to ignore. There is nothing "shameful" in economically liberating the Mainland. And China today is certainly too complicated for you to generalize as being "face-to-face" opposed against Taiwan. In reality, Taiwan is more of a (decade-early) beta test for what's to come in China. Why? because the freedom that came to Taiwan is catalyzed by the same force that is doing its magic in the Mainland today: economic liberalization.

OMGosh, is Jay a Democrat? ... (Below threshold)
-S-:

OMGosh, is Jay a Democrat? Perhaps, Libertarian?

The reality of manufacturing very low cost items is that it takes too much to live in the U.S. and workers here have to earn more than workers do elsewhere. Thus, manufacturing has gone to countries where workers' jobs are very low paying, BUT reasonable for their economies.

I've been having a series of technical discussions recently with DELL and everyone who has helped me has been in India. They're all intelligent, thorough, following written helps to the letter, exacting and probably earning a huge amount less than even low paid Americans would be, PLUS the overhead elsewhere is measurably lower than the continental U.S., AND those workers are "middle class" in India now with those jobs. But if they were earning the same thing anywhere in the U.S., they'd not be able to pay for even their daily transportation and still have much left over for living expenses, much less any profit/savings.

Another thing: by enriching economies elsewhere, we are also not importing even more immigrants, and enabling Americans to continue to purchase goods/services HERE for low/lower prices, which everyone would be really struck by if we were to be doing all that manufacturing/service provisions here (in which case, people could not afford to shop at WalMart/COSTCO/Amazon/Safeway and many other sources in the U.S. as we can now).

I think it's a good thing to encourage business in other countries through American enterprise...something we should start perceiving as a good thing, not a bad one.

I agree completely with the... (Below threshold)
Mark Wilson:

I agree completely with the critics of this post. However, if you want to only buy patriotic items that are made in the U.S., that is your right.

We should not have outsourc... (Below threshold)
PTG:

We should not have outsourced the flu vaccine.

I wouldn't begrudge Taiwan ... (Below threshold)
Rich Baldwin:

I wouldn't begrudge Taiwan the ability to make patriotic items for the USA. After all, without Taiwan your computer wouldn't have a motherboard:

However, although motherboard makers may service the entire world, there is not much variance in terms of where their headquarters are located.

Nearly all of the world's motherboard manufacturers have their home offices in Taiwan.

link

I'm all in favor of Taiwan ... (Below threshold)
Veeshir:

I'm all in favor of Taiwan doing that.
What got me upset was buying a hat on Ft. Belvoir outside DC. It was nice, Ft. Belvoir and a big flag on the front. Unfortunately, inside it said, "Made in China".




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