It looks like there was a mistake made. Notice how the 2 and the 4 match up with 12 and 14 on the punch card. What I want to know is what will the counting machine count? Will it count a 4 or a 14 as the proper vote. Really it should count both.

It looks like there was a mistake made. Notice how the 2 and the 4 match up with 12 and 14 on the punch card. What I want to know is what will the counting machine count? Will it count a 4 or a 14 as the proper vote. Really it should count both.

Obviously this was a total setup from whoever added these arrows (which aren't supposed to be there). I'm going to ask an even better question...

One the absentee ballots... who really is #12 and #14? Those people are going to get votes from people voting Libertarian and Replican Presidential candidates (who are #2 and #4). Those important Senate, Representive races or what? #12 and #14 are going to create an overvote at 'best' which will cancel out the vote against teh benefactor or 'worse' increase the number of votes they should have gotten.

Whoever benefits from #12 and #14 being punched is in league with these people. #14 if they are stupid... #12 if they are clever since that minor increase won't be so obvious.

What a complete farce.

Jeez.... lets spellcheck the above to read like this. Uggg

Obviously this was a total setup from whomever added these arrows (which aren't supposed to be there). I'm going to ask an even better question...

On the absentee ballots... who is #12 and #14? Those people are going to get votes from people voting Libertarian and Republican Presidential candidates (who are #2 and #4). Are those important Senate, Representive races or what? #12 and #14 are going to create an overvote at 'best' which will cancel out the vote against the benefactor or 'worse' increase the number of votes they should have gotten.

Whoever benefits from #12 and #14 being punched is in league with these people (I won't say Dem's, but that's what I think). #14 if they are stupid... #12 if they are clever since that minor increase won't be so obvious.

What a complete farce.

- This little "mistake" is 10 times more blatent than the usual twist of asking ballot issue questions in a reverse answer sense as in "Yes I don't want that or No I definately want that passed"....If I still lived there I'd be screaming my head off to the BOE in Cuyahoga county ( which just happens to include Cleveland and 78% of the entire area population)....

I was going to say this all looked like an innocent mix up, as I said initially. But I saw something else that left me with questions.

I should point out the Cuyahoga County is strongly Democrat. The three county commissioners are left wing as is the mayor and the previous mayor for years. Cuyahoga county is also the largest county in Ohio.

The picture is OBVIOUSLY manipulated. Someone manipulated the picture to remove the "1" in #s "12" and "14", so that instead of it reading "Badnarik ... 12" and "Bush ... 14" (which is the way the real ballot reads), it appears that there was a mistake.

This picture was manipulated. You can see the evidence if you look closely where the "1"s should be.

>This picture was manipulated. You can see the
>evidence if you look closely where the "1"s
>should be.
> Posted by: Pan at October 26, 2004 06:33 PM

You are in fact incorrect. What looks like a manipulation is actually a line from the page below the one shown. You can clearly see a solid black line running down just offset from the single digit number below the numbers 2 & 4...

If it were actually edited, then it would be easy to remove this so called "evidence"...

By the way, since this picture did come from "electoral-vote.com", this creates further proof it was NOT edited... Not to mention thoes who actually live there stating their ballot was EXACTLY the same...