I've had two Phillips DSR6001 DirecTiVo's for over 5 years (the DirecTV built-in tuner variety) because it allowed for recording off of two tuners simultaneously and it eliminated one extra box (the DTV tuner) from my entertainment systems. I've always worried that somewhere down the road the TiVo service our family loves and depends on - remember there's three children 3 years old and younger in the house - might disappear leaving me with an electronic boat anchor. TiVo is the only reason we can watch anything, and the DirecTiVo allowed us to record Friend and Survivor at the same time, which a regular TiVo couldn't do.
Ever since Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. bought DirecTV I've heard the rumor that they would drop the TiVo service from their DVR's. I noticed that the packaging for new models are now called DirecTV DVR's and in small print on the packaging it is noted that they feature the TiVo service. Is that a harbinger of things to come? Is DirecTV going to squash the puny TiVo folks? Better head off to the TiVo Community Board to find out the scoop...
So today The Los Angeles Times reports that TiVo's will no longer skip past advertisers. I read the whole article (as should you) and am not among those that think the world is about to end for TiVo fans. On the other hand I'm not quite as worried about News Corp cutting TiVo out of the equation either.
I, for one, welcome our new Australian publishing tycoon overlords.




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Great. Since the Apple/Mic... (Below threshold)1. Posted by jmaster | November 17, 2004 4:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Great. Since the Apple/Microsoft war seems to be dieing down, lets get a DirectTV/Dish Network battle started…….
1. Posted by jmaster | November 17, 2004 4:13 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 16:13
2. Posted by ian | November 17, 2004 4:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
or a tivo vs. mythtv battle.
2. Posted by ian | November 17, 2004 4:18 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 16:18
3. Posted by Tom | November 17, 2004 5:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think that their headline is slightly misleading. It WILL continue to skip advertisers, but will pop something up on the screen for the moments during which you are FFwding, if I'm not mistaken. It's funny that it's getting newsworthy now, as this was discussed in March of this year, when it's really close to actually happening. Needless to say, you'll still be skipping, but they're going to have things like they do on the TiVo menu come up on screen. It's not as if you're going to have to sit there the full two minutes through the ads.
That said, it might be high time to set up the :30 skip on your box.
3. Posted by Tom | November 17, 2004 5:01 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 17:01
4. Posted by jmaster | November 17, 2004 5:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
On a more serious note, it could actually become ILLEGAL to skip through the commercials.
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,65704,00.html
This article was linked under the “How Republicans can Punish Hollywood” post here yesterday. But the commercial skipping part didn’t sink in with me until I just went back and re-read it today.
4. Posted by jmaster | November 17, 2004 5:01 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 17:01
5. Posted by TallDave | November 17, 2004 5:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I love Tivo, I've had it a few years and when I was without it for a couple weeks when I moved this summer, I was surprised how much I missed it. ("You mean I actually have to be around at the right time to watch shows I want to see?? WTF is this BS!??") I could not stand watching TV without it.
Tivo also needs a high-def recording option. I have the new HLP6163W 61" Samsung DLP hi-def TV, but if I want to see a television signal in hi-def I have to bypass Tivo and watch TV the horribly primitive pre-Tivo way. (I highly recommend the Samsung btw).
It sounds like you'll still be able to fast-forward, you'll just get a pop-up while you do it. Could be rough waters ahead for DirecTV customers though. Everyone wants to make their own DVR nowadays. Even the cable companies are doing it. But at worst, you'll have a different DVR. Bad, but not nearly as bad as doing without entirely.
5. Posted by TallDave | November 17, 2004 5:12 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 17:12
6. Posted by eric | November 17, 2004 5:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Nice Simpsons reference.
6. Posted by eric | November 17, 2004 5:21 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 17:21
7. Posted by Ian S. | November 17, 2004 5:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Dave: I have a 50" Sammy (DLP rocks) and the hi-def DirecTiVo. It has dual HD DirecTV tuners *and* dual HD off-the-air tuners. It's possibly my favorite gadget ever :)
7. Posted by Ian S. | November 17, 2004 5:21 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 17:21
8. Posted by Sean Gleeson | November 17, 2004 6:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Oh, hey, speaking of tech stuff, the Autorantic Virtual Moonbat just got 607 percent funnier, 'cuz now it's a live chat! Go ahead, talk to the robot moonbat. I doubt it will learn anything, but we've got to try, dangit.
8. Posted by Sean Gleeson | November 17, 2004 6:05 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 18:05
9. Posted by The Old Coot | November 17, 2004 7:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Did you folks ever help that guy fix his 8-track on the other thread? Just curious.
9. Posted by The Old Coot | November 17, 2004 7:55 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 19:55
10. Posted by dc diva | November 17, 2004 9:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Question...our downstairs tivo has not been able to "phone in" since we have some kind of occasional phone problem w/ our wire. (We now do our "pay per view" on the upstairs tuner as a result.) Is it possible that we can avoid these new pop-up ads if our tivo can't get the downloaded software? Will we experience other difficulties? Thanks!
10. Posted by dc diva | November 17, 2004 9:12 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 21:12
11. Posted by Kin | November 17, 2004 10:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'll tell you that yes. It is likely that DirectTV will drop Tivo and probably use something like BSkyB's Sky+ system since it is made by a News Corp. company. It's very cool technology and much more feature rich then Tivo.
11. Posted by Kin | November 17, 2004 10:01 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 22:01
12. Posted by dc diva | November 17, 2004 10:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Fab. Thanks for the response, and I look forward to hearing about other theories on work-arounds or better technology.
12. Posted by dc diva | November 17, 2004 10:16 PM |
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Posted on November 17, 2004 22:16
13. Posted by Mess | November 18, 2004 9:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I ditched Directv over a year ago when there was a serious overbilling problem that lasted for four months. Now have Dish and once we got used to it, like it so much better and they do have dual tuner dvrs.
Also as per the mythtv comment I built my own pvr two years ago and still going strong. Use it to watch Dish or Canadian satellite on my PC or any tv in the home. Record programs all the time on it for later viewing or transfer them to my laptop to watch anything on the road. Even have a modded xbox to transfer and watch movies that were recorded. Load that up with kids stuff and plug it into the entertainment system in our minivan and voila quiet kids for a long road trip vacation.
13. Posted by Mess | November 18, 2004 9:50 AM |
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Posted on November 18, 2004 09:50