The awful truth, again I write, is that it is not Neanderthals -- extinct species perhaps more human than not human -- responsible for these acts of barbery today in the Netherlands (perhaps, also, elsewhere), but "modern," living and breathing creeps alive today -- that means, now, it means they are members of what is supposedly the "superior" human, though I disagree with that premise due to news such as this.

That is, it's human beings alive in our world today who are taking these actions.

And sending a whole lot of trojan attachments my way since I wrote what I wrote a few days ago in Wizbang, among other hacking attempts.

I'm even getting reamed by French mac addicts, disdaining the Weblog Awards as prejudiced to and about "Anglo Saxon" blogs, and that's the least offensive thing written by this maniac somewhere in Europe...(use Google's translation tool if you can bear to read this -- it's stinky).

If I ever had anything decent to say/write (and I did) about the Netherlands and France, it is now completely rescinded. Barbarism, they have deteriorated into barbarism.

Identifying Neanderthals as being characteristic of this behavior (as described in this neews from the Netherlands) (and France, it appears, based upon the lunatic blog), dodges the point -- my only point made earlier -- and that is that it's contemporary, "modern" human beings in Europe committing these acts. They're not extinct, they're really alive and in our world today. And they categorize "modernity" for some human beings. This is what we have to contend with in our world today: a concept of modernism that is set on death and the negative.

Using a Mac does not bestow on anyone an e-ticket for non responsibility. I experienced a similar attack a while ago from, also, Denmark -- something quite random, in my experience, not like I troll Denmark sites and tease or taunt Denmark or the Netherlands, inviting their crusades o' horror -- but I'm thinking that there is a concept of civilization there that's quite intensely destructive. To make an understatement here, after this news you share.

P.S.: I found the website referenced in these comments by following my site stats, referral links. Why they hate "Anglo Saxons" is beyond me, nor me as a person, nor the Weblog Awards, nor, it seems, all of humanity.

Anyone with Lexis-Nexus should go read that 1997 Lancet study. It's frightening. They could find only one Dutch doctor who said he wouldn't actively kill (as opposed to stopping life support) a patient or refer one to someone who would. And they explained why parents weren't involved in those 21 percent of cases -- it's too much of a burden for parents, apparently, and the parents don't know enough anyhow.

The numbers of babies killed who weren't on life-support treatment in the first place is horrifying.

Anyone read "The Giver"? Think it should be mandatory reading over there (and here)? Then again, it'll probably end up just like Anne Frank in North Korea, which is read as an example of how weak Jews and Capitalists are (according to 60 minutes, at least). They'd read a horror story about utopian euthanasia, and see it as good advice!

Paul, you're right. We're not like Europeans.

America rebelled from the ideals of Old-World Europe by coming to the New World. Our very "Declaration of Independence" says that our "Christianity," our morals and such are diametrically opposed to the Christianity and morals of Europe.

The same Bible, interprated two different ways has produced two distinctively different civilizations (or cultures) with two often opposing sets of ethics and ideals.

That's why America is a pro-LIFE nation (by majority) that respects life and liberty and freedom and Europe is otherwise.

Go figure. There's a "HUGE" story in this notion. As Drudge would say... "developing."

Paul, I found a great op-ed from today on a Princeton Philosopher who justifies infanticide. Check my blog.

Hey, all you "Bush=Hitler" idiots out there, get a load of real Nazi-style ideology in practice!

Another reason America should RUN away from socialized medicine.

And they wonder why their populations require more and more immigrants to maintain their social welfare states ... they kill off their own replacement population if "it" doesn't meet their level of satisfaction!

FWIW:
"1 out of 5 kids is murdered without the parents' knowledge." is not what the article said. They said of the infants murdered, 1 our of 5 of the parents did not know. So, if 1/10,000 infants were murdered (or life support taken away, or life substaining medical treatment not given) then 1 our of 50,000 parents did not know.

I don't think I would want to know...

I added the life support part because the artcle said that about 85% of the infants needed "life-sustaining treatment to stay alive"

Amy

Sarcasm on:

What I really love about this protocol is that it is unpublished? I wish that I could go into the health insurance buisiness and sell policies but not publish what I will or what I wont cover.

Something like, "The insurer will cover all health care costs that the insurer is willing to cover according to the insurer's unpublished, proprietary guidelines. Such guidelines are not subject to review by the insuree, or anyother legal enitity"

Sarcasm off:

Amy, I think Paul reads the article right and that the quote you pull out demonstrates faulty construction (in the original). "...of the infants murdered, 1 our of 5 of the parents did not know" is vague at best. who finds out about the death of their child when the other parent is absent?

it's a critical situation in which both parents would be consulted, if there were two parents involved; even if only one receives the notification, and finds out the death was induced, what do you think the odds really are that in their shock they won't blurt this tragedy to the other parent? not wanting to know doesn't change the fact that it happened.

it is hard to be concerned for a culture that doesn't fight this, but I am concerned about the culture drift it may cause if other nations don't protest vigorously. it reminds me of the Germans who didn't protest the call-ups, deportations and concentration camps because it wasn't their business.

What a lovely statement of principles to give say to those born "defective":

"God has shown you no mercy and neither shall man."

I feel sick to my stomach

Like I said yesterday...This is just too disturbing to comment on.
I'm with Annie...it is still leaving me with a pit in my stomach...
How incredibly sad that parents who trusted a pediatrician or ObGyn were duped into believing that their child died naturally...
~makes you want to cry for the child with no voice and the parents with no child!~

I have to tell you, if some doctor informed me that he had killed my child because 'we thought it was better for her', said doctor better have his will filed. Because I'd kill him.

I simply cannot understand a society, and DOCTORS, who take this as 'just taking care of business'.

I was going to post something about "The Giver" but I see Adrianne already has.

Mark: unfortunately, and hideously, Western medicine -- doctors -- have been putting to death certain children after birth. It's a little known fact, but it's happened in our medical past, based upon an evaluation of grave birth defects. I don't know what the definition of that is, however, or if it's still in practice; God knows, I hope that it isn't, but I do know that it once took place in the U.S.

I'm listening to U2 sing, "One World" ("we have to carry each other, carry each other...").

Government killing of kids that might not have perfect Marxist lives in the cards is logical to the socialized medicine crowd. It is the lesson they learned from Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu, whose grotesque utopia was swamped with useless kids.

Here is a news story from 20 years in the future.

March 21, 2024
Mr Martin Jones was executed today for planting a truck bomb at the Federal Court House in Atlanta On Jun 28, 2010. An act which killed 163 people including 15 Children.

One of the children was 8 year old Todd James. Todd James' Physical injuries were so severe and painful that doctors and hospital officials decided to Euthanize the child over the parent''s and the boy's objections 10 days after the bombing. The hospital said that the boy was in severe and agonizing pain. They decided he just was not going to have a decent quality if he recovered.

Mr. Martin Jones was convicted of the bombing on Jan 13, 2012 and subsequently sentenced to death.
His case has been on appeal since then.

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I am not a big fan of the Death Penalty. It is just kind of irritating that People who are so concerned about Human Rights and consider the US barbaric because of the Death Penalty turn around and come up with such an "Advanced Philosophy" as this.

There are some who would say this is the ultimate end of any belief system founded on the theory of evolution. I must agree.

- "Progressive" asshats are vociferously against the death penalty, staging prayer sceances, protesting and rallying outside prisons, writting volumes of type on the subject, and vehemently condemning conservative values that allow this sort of "barbaric" practice....

- Then one of the great unwashed femtards boggies on down to the "planned parenthood" clinic and murders the baby she's carrying because she's afraid her "enlightened" moonbat bottom feeder boyfriend will dump her....

- Click-click (sounds of "lock and load")....

Finally and explanation for the Van Gogh killing:

it was just euthanasia!

So it's OK, right?

Right!

This is an issue that will begin to take root in the coming years here in the USA. This is unbelievable, but then again very believable -- it's the logical progression of the Liberal-Left mindset. My father-in-law is from Holland and he told me about their euthanasia policy but I thought he was exaggerating because of his hatred for the Dutch Lberal-Left establishment.

I'm absolutly shocked that no one has mentioned "Ubermensch" yet... This is the ultimate goal of selective euthanasia (breeding) after all. And just think, all the way up to age 12 to so the 'misfits' that were passed over the first time can be culled at a later date. Side bets that the age limit is BS.

"A parent's role is limited under the protocol. While experts and critics familiar with the policy said a parent's wishes to let a child live or die naturally most likely would be considered, they note that the decision must be professional, so rests with doctors."

Say WHAT?!!!!! If they don't fight this tooth and nail, I... I... I can't even think of anything bad enough to say here. They CAN'T let doctors make decisions about when to kill babies... doctors are supposed to have as their highest principle "first, do no harm," so... I can't even say anything coherent about this topic anymore. :-(

If the whole world doesn't rise up screaming with rage about this... is it too extreme to say that our very humanity is at stake here?

So much for the parents making the decision.

Now it's just for terminal illness, but they have their foot in the door. Governments tend to expand powers and definitions, not retract them or freeze them. How long until genetic disposition for mental illness is covered under this?

Once again, recall the "research" put out by Berkeley arguing that "conservatism" is a mental illness. Connect the dots.

I think older children should have the choice to refuse invasive life support measures, and that parent's should be able to do so for children who are unconscious or too young to decide.

But giving the state the right to kill someone's child without their consent is horrifying. What if the CHILD -- perhaps a 10 or 11 year old child -- does not want it to happen??? Capital "E" evil.

Has the Groningen protocol been published any where? Or, are they keeping it underwraps?

good question Julie... I've been wondering that for a few days.

Don't think of it as euthanasia, think of it as a 24th-trimester abortion.

This story has hit the MSM:

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/12/01/netherlands.mercykill/index.html

Looks like the Left in Europe is slowly moving towards out-and-out Nazism.

And these are the people the left wing would have us seeking approval from before we go to war!? I hope this gets out to some of the extreme leftists.

Well, S, I'm not sure what the automatic translation gave you, but what's certain is that it's obviously very far from what I wrote, considering your reaction…

The bad thing I said were about the design of the logo, which I found quite bad and I can't figure out why I would hate anglo-saxons… I try to keep an open mind and I don't hate anglo-saxons, nor latin people, nor arabians, nor any ethnics, religions, nor whatever you can think of. I have relations with peoples, minds, philosophies, whatever the sex, age, ethnicity, religion. What's important to me is that we share things. And I'm very happy to speak (a little) and read (not so bad) english to allow me to open my mind wider, not only to french speaking people. I just hate cats and Microsoft, but I guess it's not so bad anyway… ;o)

Well, let me translate these two posts for you, so you can judge on facts, not randomized translation ! :o)

Here it is. I'll try to use the best english I can at this time of the night, for me, after a very long day.

The first was about :

«Weblog Awards speak english…

Interesting idea, since awards and contests, as everybody knows, allow people to discover or better know the theme of the award.

But I have the feeling, by reading the categories, that, even if Europe isn't forgotten, it's still mainly focused on english speaking productions. Too bad, since some french speaking blogs (and certainly spanish speaking or other languages, but I unfortunately can't read them) would deserve to find, through these awards, a wider or new audience…

Such a project, more open to non english language would certainly be interesting. There are certainly synergies to develop.»

More or less, it was not a criticism, more like an invitation to create spanish, italian, french, german and other categories. That's all there was to understand, there… :o)

As for the second post about this subject :

«2004 weblog awards

This logo is absolutely hideous and unbearable, but it's the official one, so I bow.

To limit aesthetic damages to this blog, I'll pick the smaller size. But, God, how ugly. And I spare you the square one, even worse. Ugly and unreadable, whatever the version. It doesn't make you want to hire Suzy Rice. Even simple. The remaining of her works are equally ugly and show a blatant lack of taste. That said, reading quickly through her blog (I don't have the courage to read it all, it's hard to read), I have the feeling that she's pro-bush, which says a lot about her intellectual and design capacities.

What's certain is that she brags about designing the Star Wars logo. She emphasizes it so much that one has the feeling that this barely modified Helvetica is her own creation and is a wonder. Don't exaggerate, if it's well known today, there is nothing exceptional about it, design-wise and, obviously, the credits are subject to caution.

Now. If I need graphic design, I prefer to ask talented people like Jo or Alba, certainly not her. Yuck.

That said, snooping through the comments, I saw non english speaking blogs in the proposed nominees. If they go a bit further and make it to the voting poll, this will already be good news for cultural and intellectual diversity…»

Ok, I admit it, this may not be nice to Suzy Rice, but after all, this is only a personal and aesthetic advice. Everyone can write about how beautiful this logo is and how great Bush is, and this will be rejoicing to see that variety in tastes gives spice to life. I'm always happy to share advices and opinions with people willing to discuss !

But, maybe these two opinions were what made you angry ? This is too bad, because this was not about the weblog awards. Only out of the subject matters.

The bottom line is that, in this post, I was rather glad that these awards existed and even more happily surprised to see non e