
The terrorist loving parents of Palestinian martyr Rachel Corrie are seeking to extend their 15 minutes of fame.
They are now suing Caterpillar Inc, because Caterpillar made the bulldozer which Corrie used in her attempt to win a Darwin Award.
Of course the AP in their usual clueless way makes Corrie out to be the victim.
Rachel Corrie, a student at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington, was standing in front of a home in a refugee camp in Rafah, a Gaza Strip city near the Egyptian border, on March 16, 2003, when a bulldozer plowed over her.So in the AP version... "She was just standing there, when out of the blue, this bulldozed magically appeared and PLOWED her over. Nobody even knew it was coming."
Her parents are also suing Israel. (of course)
I wear it as a Badge of Honor that I voted for the President these people campaigned against.
More than you ever wanted to know about the background.
Via an emailer who may or may not want his name mentioned.



Comments (63)
Wow. What a frivolous laws... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Sean | March 16, 2005 11:43 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wow. What a frivolous lawsuit. If anything, Caterpillar will be able to recover their legal expenses from the Corries because there is simply no way in hell they should have been brought into this case.
1. Posted by Sean | March 16, 2005 11:43 AM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 11:43
2. Posted by Mike | March 16, 2005 11:48 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Is there no limit someone will go to try and get money from some corporation? This is an embarassment to frivolous lawsuits everywhere.
Even John Edwards, wherever he has disappeared to, is chuckling at this.
2. Posted by Mike | March 16, 2005 11:48 AM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 11:48
3. Posted by Chuck Simmins | March 16, 2005 11:51 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
From July 2003:
To the tune of "Battle Hymn of the Republic"
Rachel Corrie went to Palestine
to free the Arab mob,
burning flags and sleeping round
and acting like a yob.
She sought to save the pimps and punks
and generate a sob,
but a D-9 ended that.
[chorus]
Rachel Corrie got run over,
Rachel Corrie got run over,
Rachel Corrie got run over,
a D-9 ended that.
She climbed atop a mound of dirt
to stop the dreaded foe.
Her heart was full of hubris
her enemy named Moe.
The D-9 was large and loud
and so she turned to go
but a D-9 ended that.
[chorus]
Now Rachel lies flattened
beneath the Army tread.
Her pimps and pushers honor her
repeating what she said.
But nothing makes up for the fact
that she's really, really dead.
A D-9 ended that.
[chorus]
3. Posted by Chuck Simmins | March 16, 2005 11:51 AM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 11:51
4. Posted by Jay Tea | March 16, 2005 11:52 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Paul, I was going to write about this, but I knew I could not possibly match the derisive contempt and scorn you master.
But I might try, anyway. Something about the subtle racism of Corrie, in presuming that the Israelis wouldn't hesitate to bulldoze Palestinians, but wouldn't dare harm a hair on her white, Western head...
I think I woulda gone with "Asshats" or "Dumbasses" for a category, though.
J.
4. Posted by Jay Tea | March 16, 2005 11:52 AM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 11:52
5. Posted by Gabriel Chapman | March 16, 2005 12:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I remember railing against the internet intifada idiots when they used a bunch of misleading pictures to portray the Corrie event. Namley using shots from different areas (which had different dozers) in an attempt to show the story took place differently than it really did.
The Corrie family has always struck me as naive and ignorant about their daughters actions.
Regardless, her supporters are mostly moonbat idiots, who have little or no understanding of the situation in Israel, or who champion the Palestinian cause without questioning the evil tactics used.
To add some humor, I recall the "protests" that took place here in the US about Corries death:
Protest Image here
5. Posted by Gabriel Chapman | March 16, 2005 12:07 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 12:07
6. Posted by Bucky Katt | March 16, 2005 12:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
While St. Pancake was deprived of her Darwin Award, she *was* the a winner of the Fiskie Award for Idiotarian of the Year for 2003.
6. Posted by Bucky Katt | March 16, 2005 12:29 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 12:29
7. Posted by Jason | March 16, 2005 12:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What her parents are doing is reprehensible. But talking about the dead in such disparaging terms is almost as bad. She used poor judgment and lost her life because of it. Referring to here as a Darwin award nominee or as St. Pancake is pretty tasteless.
7. Posted by Jason | March 16, 2005 12:34 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 12:34
8. Posted by Laurence Simon | March 16, 2005 12:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Chuck-
Is that sung in the key of B-flat?
8. Posted by Laurence Simon | March 16, 2005 12:35 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 12:35
9. Posted by Robert | March 16, 2005 12:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Chuck are you a history revisionist? Just because she is dead does not take away her infamy.
Or by your logic should we not speak ill of Hitler just because he is dead?
9. Posted by Robert | March 16, 2005 12:44 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 12:44
10. Posted by Debra | March 16, 2005 12:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
so tell me, how long before the overwhelming pissed off feeling that I now have goes away?
~sheesh~
10. Posted by Debra | March 16, 2005 12:46 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 12:46
11. Posted by Jack Tanner | March 16, 2005 12:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
is
'a student at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington'
a common euphemism for
'a terrorist abettor in Gaza'?
11. Posted by Jack Tanner | March 16, 2005 12:55 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 12:55
12. Posted by OneDrummer | March 16, 2005 1:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
No, Jack.
As one who lives in the Evergreen State, I can say with certainty that it is describing "Moonbat Central.'
Jay is right, I can't match Paul's derision, hard as I may.... ;)
12. Posted by OneDrummer | March 16, 2005 1:05 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 13:05
13. Posted by jmaster | March 16, 2005 1:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is more than just frivolous. Its an attempt at “judicial activism” through the civil courts.
Its not much different than suing gun manufacturers when you can’t get more restrictive gun laws passed.
Even if they don’t win the case, they’re probably hoping to “shame” Caterpillar, etc., into not doing business with Israel.
13. Posted by jmaster | March 16, 2005 1:06 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 13:06
14. Posted by Raina | March 16, 2005 1:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Am I the only one who starts singing the Simon and Garfunkle son "Richard Cory" whenever I hear this idiot chick's name? I suppose it's an apt comparison, seeing as how the guy in the song committed suicide too.
14. Posted by Raina | March 16, 2005 1:10 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 13:10
15. Posted by Steve L. | March 16, 2005 1:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Any lawyer will tell you that the first rule of filing a lawsuit is to sue anyone and everyone that could even remotely, possibly, in even a minute way have anything to do with an incident. If the jury wants to lay blame somewhere, it gives them more options. Sooner or later, they will hit upon something, somewhere, that someone did and hang the judgment on them. Including a major corporation makes that even easier because "they have plenty of money." If the jury thinks her death was wrongful, they will find a rationale for paying her. Hopefully, the judge will be smart enough to dismiss the cases against the silly defendants.
15. Posted by Steve L. | March 16, 2005 1:16 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 13:16
16. Posted by Rick13 | March 16, 2005 1:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Please feel free to send all comments to her family
Rachel Corrie and Family
PO Box 12149
Olympia, WA 98508
And don't stand in front of bulldozers dumbass!
16. Posted by Rick13 | March 16, 2005 1:42 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 13:42
17. Posted by Rick13 | March 16, 2005 1:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I wonder if they used a Caterpillar to dig her grave, or did they request a John Deer?
17. Posted by Rick13 | March 16, 2005 1:44 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 13:44
18. Posted by JN | March 16, 2005 2:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
How dare anyone question the bulldozing of their house.
18. Posted by JN | March 16, 2005 2:19 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 14:19
19. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 2:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
As opposed to bulldozers designed to pet kittens and fly kites? Isn't demolishing things what a bulldozer does?
19. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 2:30 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 14:30
20. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 2:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Whoops, forgot that the blockquote tag doesn't work. The first paragraph is a quote from the story that Paul linked. Preview is my friend!
20. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 2:31 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 14:31
21. Posted by Confederate Yankee | March 16, 2005 2:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think is is unfair to sue the bulldozer manufacturer, but why not sue the people who made her stupid? Evergreen State College contributed to the state of mind that led her to Israel. Kind of like pushing someone who is prone to jumping off bridges, if you ask me.
21. Posted by Confederate Yankee | March 16, 2005 2:32 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 14:32
22. Posted by Al | March 16, 2005 3:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'll echo others' comments:
Evergreen State College is far more culpable than Caterpillar.
22. Posted by Al | March 16, 2005 3:07 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 15:07
23. Posted by Cybrludite | March 16, 2005 3:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Laurence,
I beleave that should be sung in the key of "off"...
23. Posted by Cybrludite | March 16, 2005 3:28 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 15:28
24. Posted by hugh | March 16, 2005 3:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Maybe we need a little reminder here of what the law says, and we need the facts on what the lawsuit actually alleges? ya think?
here's a couple facts for us: The lawsuit is against the US bulldozer manufacturer 'Caterpillar', because it supplies Israeli forces with bulldozers and other machines, knowingly used to violate human rights.
According to the federal lawsuit, Caterpillar, Inc. violated international and state law by providing specially designed bulldozers to Israeli forces that it knew would be used to demolish homes and endanger civilians.
This is illegal people. You don't have to like it - but maybe you should understand it before you pop off? It is illegal to sell a product to a person or entity if you know that that product will be used in an illegal manner, and in a lethal manner.
Dissent is patriotism. It's the first, and most important of our rights gauranteed to us in our system.
Don't any of you care about anything enough to take a stand and speak up, or all you all just willing to go along with everything, as long as it doesn't interupt Miller-time?
ps mr. piss-poor poet - she sought to save the home of a pharmacist, his wife, and their children, none of whom had any ties to terrorism. if foreign troops every come to knock down your home - maybe you'll be lucky enough to have somebody willing enough to stand up for you? maybe you'll just evacuate your home when you are told to, no questions asked, and go live with relatives, because they don't want your house there anymore?
if it was me? i'd be a wuss and leave. i bet we'd all be wusses. maybe that's why we are all online ragging on a dead college student - because she was brave, and it reminds us that we are wusses?
24. Posted by hugh | March 16, 2005 3:31 PM |
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25. Posted by Mike | March 16, 2005 3:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yes Hugh, she was incredibly brave, not incredibly stupid!
Specially designed bulldozers that endanger civilians. What?? Are you kidding me? I imagine that any bulldozer would endanger a civilian if they were dumb enough to get in the way of it when the driver obviously can't see him/her.
Give us a break. Go and make Rachel Corrie your martyr, to me she was just an unfortunate collegiate brat who got too caught up in a movement and took it one step too far. Her parents have no one else to blame for her death except their daughter.
25. Posted by Mike | March 16, 2005 3:44 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 15:44
26. Posted by mantis | March 16, 2005 3:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
ConYan,
I think is is unfair to sue the bulldozer manufacturer, but why not sue the people who made her stupid? Evergreen State College contributed to the state of mind that led her to Israel. Kind of like pushing someone who is prone to jumping off bridges, if you ask me.
Why do you say that? Because Dennis Prager tells you Evergreen is a liberal college, therefore they are to blame (partly) for her death? Oh, right, they contributed to her state of mind, which you point out was stupidity. How so? What are you basing any of this on?
Btw I think suing the manufacturer is stupid. You don't blame a car company for someone running you over, you blame the driver.
26. Posted by mantis | March 16, 2005 3:45 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 15:45
27. Posted by McGehee | March 16, 2005 4:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Believe it or not, I agree with Mantis, above. If her parents want to sue those who made their daughter stupid, they'd have to sue ... themselves.
27. Posted by McGehee | March 16, 2005 4:07 PM |
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28. Posted by TruthTeller | March 16, 2005 4:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Oh that's right "Hugh", you'll be happy as long as Jews go quietly to their deaths. As long as they don't try to defend themselves and kill terrorist enablers, the Jews are okay. Hey,"Hugh"???? Go fuck yourself.
28. Posted by TruthTeller | March 16, 2005 4:09 PM |
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29. Posted by Steve L. | March 16, 2005 4:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hugh's argument made me laugh so hard that I almost peed in my pants.
First, do you think that Israel went into the local Caterpillar dealer and said, "Gimme one of them thar bulldozers so I can go violate me some human rights?" No, they went in and ordered a bulldozer. Sure, it was "specially designed" but what exactly does that mean? Does it mean that it had the operator's compartment armored? In that region of the world, that would be a wise thing to do on ANY piece of equipment. Maybe it was for building roads. Maybe it was for clearing lots for new housing. Maybe, it was for demolishing houses. There is not one single one of those activities that could reasonably be foreseen as being a "human rights" issue.
Second, in your scenario, anything anyone sells to Israel could be held to the same standard. I assume that's what you would like anyway from the tone of your argument. General Motors sells the Israeli military trucks and the IDF drives in those trucks to enforce the laws of Isael. Is GM liable? I mean they are military trucks, so GM should have known they were using them for military purposes.
Third, who decides that human rights are being violated? I ahven't read or heard anything that suggests that tearing down those houses was a human rights violation. Wnating it to be so doesn't make it so.
Now, Hugh, go away.
29. Posted by Steve L. | March 16, 2005 4:41 PM |
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30. Posted by Chuck Simmins | March 16, 2005 4:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And, on that particular day, according to both the actual photographs and the Israeli Army, the bulldozer was there to clear brush and level some land. The house was not scheduled to be destroyed.
And, the tunnel into the house, through which terrorists smuggled weapons, drug dealers smuggled drugs and pimps smuggled whores suggest that the "poor" pharmacist probably had a nice thing going. Until he got caught.
After all, Arafat was only an engineer and Assad is an eye doctor. And Hitler was a painter.
BTW, the laws of physics will not be denied. Bulldozers are slower and far less responsive than even out of shape American coeds. If you don't want to get hit by the train, don't stand in front of it.
30. Posted by Chuck Simmins | March 16, 2005 4:47 PM |
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31. Posted by moseby | March 16, 2005 5:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
One quick way to grease the treads of a bulldozer is with moonbat blood...
31. Posted by moseby | March 16, 2005 5:03 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 17:03
32. Posted by Just Me | March 16, 2005 5:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think this one fits in multiple catagories.
What is scary is that there are probably some jurisdictions where you could get the right moonbat judge and the right monnbat jury who would probably find in favor of the parents.
I think it is the American way, have your child die because they did something idiotic and stupid and sue somebody for it.
32. Posted by Just Me | March 16, 2005 5:10 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 17:10
33. Posted by Confederate Yankee | March 16, 2005 5:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If you want to know just how far "out there" Evergreen is, all you have to do is read, Mantis.
No grades, no real courses to register for, the ability to make up classes as you go... yeah, a regular Yale, this place.
On the bright side, they do have a Native American program Ward Churchill can join once CU fires him.
33. Posted by Confederate Yankee | March 16, 2005 5:11 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 17:11
34. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 5:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wow, Hugh sure showed all of us, eh?
According to the federal lawsuit, Caterpillar, Inc. violated international and state law by providing specially designed bulldozers to Israeli forces that it knew would be used to demolish homes and endanger civilians.
This is illegal people.
Says who? "International law" may arguably apply to the U.S. government -- it doesn't, but that's another point -- but it most certainly doesn't hold weight over a private American company. Caterpillar violated no U.S. law in selling bulldozers to the Israeli Army, any more than Apache did by selling them helicopter gunships -- which are much more obviously intended to kill people and destroy things. And there is nothing "illegal" about the Israeli operations, UN babble notwithstanding. This lawsuit is a publicity stunt, nothing more.
It gets more amusing from there:
Dissent is patriotism. It's the first, and most important of our rights gauranteed to us in our system.
I'm getting a little tired of this annoying cliché. Dissent in America is neither patriotic nor treasonous -- it's merely an exercise of one's rights. (By the logic above, being religious in the U.S. is likewise "patriotism," since it's the second right guaranteed by the 1st Amendment.)
Of course, this point isn't even germane to Corrie, who was not dissenting against American practices, but rather actively interfering in Israeli actions againt Arab terrorism. To call this "patriotism" is laughable on its face, much like the rest of Hugh's impassioned but silly argument.
if it was me? i'd be a wuss and leave. i bet we'd all be wusses. maybe that's why we are all online ragging on a dead college student - because she was brave, and it reminds us that we are wusses?
In what way was she brave? If she really believed that the Israelis were out to get her, she was merely being stupid, since it's not as if she could fight back or make a difference. Of course, she didn't believe this -- she assumed, like most other Western protestors, that those evil Israelis wouldn't dare go through her, and she could delay or stop them -- hence the brightly colored clothing. Well, she miscalculated, and ended up getting squashed.
Does this bother me? Not a whit. And not because I'm in awe of her "bravery" -- it's because I'm disgusted by her arrogant presumption that as a Westerner, she is more valuable than the people she was trying to shield. Not to mention her working along with, and shilling on behalf of, terrorists who would happily use the weapons they smuggled through tunnels she was trying to shield, to kill lots of genuinely innocent and worthwhile human beings.
I don't rejoice in the loss of Rachel Corrie; I wish she had been smarter and stayed out of a conflict she didn't know or understand, and in which she took the side of child-murderers. But she made her (stupid) choice, and she took the consequences, and that's justice.
As for her parents, as Paul says, their 15 minutes of fame are up.
34. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 5:21 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 17:21
35. Posted by Paul | March 16, 2005 5:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jay said:
"Paul, I was going to write about this, but I knew I could not possibly match the derisive contempt and scorn you master."
In the words of Elvis Presley, "Thankyaverymuch"
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Laurence Simon -- hysterical as usual.
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And Hugh idiot... if you are soooo worried about things being "illegal", can ya find a sense of outrage over suicide bombers *illegally* slaughtering innocent children???
You stupid dickhead. You are worried about "civil rights" but not worried about murdering children while their parents shop. And YOU want the moral high ground? Fuck you.
35. Posted by Paul | March 16, 2005 5:24 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 17:24
36. Posted by OneDrummer | March 16, 2005 5:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Confederate... now you've got me pissed... first you want the Corrie's to sue Evergreen, which means my tax dollars would be in play... then you suggest they hire Churchill. Heh. Not in my state. ;)
36. Posted by OneDrummer | March 16, 2005 5:30 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 17:30
37. Posted by Brainster | March 16, 2005 5:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Let's remember that these same bulldozers were used in the Jenin "massacre". The Palestinians had thought they'd kill a lot of Israeli soldiers by mining the streets of Jenin, but the bulldozers cleared the way by making new pathways through the city, probably saving more lives than they cost on either side.
37. Posted by Brainster | March 16, 2005 5:38 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 17:38
38. Posted by avenueB Alum | March 16, 2005 5:56 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
All this discussion is giving me an appetite. Anyone for pancakes?
38. Posted by avenueB Alum | March 16, 2005 5:56 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 17:56
39. Posted by MMM | March 16, 2005 6:02 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"... but why not sue the people who made her stupid?"
That would mean....
Cindy and Craig Corrie
v
Cindy and Craig Corrie
39. Posted by MMM | March 16, 2005 6:02 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 18:02
40. Posted by midwich | March 16, 2005 6:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"One quick way to grease the treads of a bulldozer is with moonbat blood...
Posted by: moseby at March 16, 2005 05:03 PM"
omfg - I dearly love this site, but this owns ANYTHING DU or koskiddies could come up with. Ms Corrie was clearly misguided in my opinion, but this kind of response is utterly disgusting.
You guys need to watch out - there are a lot of people like me who switched to Repubs after 911, but aside from defence issues we clearly don't have a great deal in common. This doesn't bode well for Republican fortunes in the longterm, if this kind of extremism becomes the norm :(
40. Posted by midwich | March 16, 2005 6:09 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 18:09
41. Posted by midwich | March 16, 2005 6:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"All this discussion is giving me an appetite. Anyone for pancakes?
Posted by: avenueB Alum at March 16, 2005 05:56 PM"
ffs - see my previous response above :((
41. Posted by midwich | March 16, 2005 6:14 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 18:14
42. Posted by mantis | March 16, 2005 6:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
No grades, no real courses to register for, the ability to make up classes as you go... yeah, a regular Yale, this place.
Ok, so its not your traditional university, fine. Are you saying that if she had gone to a traditional school, gotten regular grades (Evergreen's grading system doesn't seem so bad to me, if a bit hippyish), did not create her own classes (which you can do at very many traditional universities), then she wouldn't have gone to Palestine and sat in front of a bulldozer? You don't think there may have been other things going on here? How come we don't hear more stories about dead, foolish Evergreen students if they are pushing them towards such ends? I did my undergrad studies at a traditional, state university that is very heavy on research, science, and medicine. There were still socialists and "free palestine" groups handing out flyers and talking about going to the ME to be human shields, and instructors who were sympathetic to their causes (and ones that were not). But you seem to simply be on an "university professors are all Ward Churchills and terrorist sympathizers" kick, so I doubt that would convince you of anything.
Besides, since you banned me from your site after my first time commenting for little or no reason that I can discern, and ignored my requests at explanation via email, I doubt you are interested in any sort of honest debate. So have fun on your anti-university crusade, Yankee-boy.
42. Posted by mantis | March 16, 2005 6:16 PM |
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43. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 6:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Caterpillar violated no U.S. law in selling bulldozers to the Israeli Army, any more than Apache did by selling them helicopter gunships
Of course, that should read any more than Boeing did by selling them Apache helicopter gunships.
43. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 6:19 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 18:19
44. Posted by MMM | March 16, 2005 6:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
James Taranto nails it:
"Of course, Israel was using the bulldozer not to 'demolish homes and endanger people' but to destroy a tunnel that Palestinian Arab terrorists were using to smuggle in weapons from Egypt, for the purpose of murdering Israeli civilians."
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/
44. Posted by MMM | March 16, 2005 6:36 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 18:36
45. Posted by REALITY CHECK | March 16, 2005 6:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
ZIONISM IS RACISM
ZIONISM IS DIGUSTING
AND
AS ANY REAL JEW WILL TELL YOU;
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JUDISM
ALL OF YOU POSTERS ARE PITIFULL VERBALLY MASTERBATING OVER THE CORPSE OF A WOMAN WHO STOOD UP IN THIS WORLD FOR WHAT SHE (AND ALL OF THE WORLD EXCEPT OF COURSE THE US AND ITS CLIENT STATE ISREAL) THOUGHT WAS A REAL CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY BULDOZING CIVILIAN HOMES.
I HOPE HER PARENTS WIN. CAT HES BEEN THE TARGET OF SCORN FOR YEARS
45. Posted by REALITY CHECK | March 16, 2005 6:53 PM |
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46. Posted by Henry | March 16, 2005 6:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bulldozer....doesn't the name suggest something that is meant to destroy something else by "bulldozing" over it?
apparently the lawyers who took the case don't know anything about heavy machinery. Too bad they didn't use a "backhoe". Then the machinery would be stationary and the backhoe itself would do the work, and you can't stand in front of a backhoe, it operates over your head and scoops down underneath. Don't know what a backhoe is? think back to playgrounds in the sand as kids...sitting on the seat with the digging thing...and it had 2 levers. That's a basic backhoe.
46. Posted by Henry | March 16, 2005 6:54 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 18:54
47. Posted by Jinx McHue | March 16, 2005 7:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Didn't someone make a joke the other day about her parents suing Cat? Maybe that was on another blog.
47. Posted by Jinx McHue | March 16, 2005 7:19 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 19:19
48. Posted by McGehee | March 16, 2005 9:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Funny how the troll's signature is exactly what he/she/it appears to need.
48. Posted by McGehee | March 16, 2005 9:47 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 21:47
49. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 10:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You have to admit Check is right in one way: Zionism indeed has nothing whatsoever to do with JUDISM.
"REAL" Jews -- accept no imitations! -- certainly will not argue with that.
49. Posted by E. Nough | March 16, 2005 10:24 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 22:24
50. Posted by Scott R. Keszler | March 16, 2005 11:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is the next step in the progression that started when cities and states brought suit against firearms manufacturers for the actions of criminals that used their products. The 2nd step was a fat idiot who sued McDonalds for selling him what he ordered, and the parents of a couple of fat kids trying their own version of that suit.
Next up will be parents of drunk teenagers who drove, wrecked, and died suing auto and beer manufacturers.
And the root of it all is people refusing to believe that individuals are responsible for the consequences of their actions - or at least professing that belief in pursuit of "deep pockets" and a life on easy street.
50. Posted by Scott R. Keszler | March 16, 2005 11:06 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 23:06
51. Posted by mantis | March 16, 2005 11:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is the next step in the progression that started when cities and states brought suit against firearms manufacturers for the actions of criminals that used their products.
Weren't the tobacco companies first?
51. Posted by mantis | March 16, 2005 11:18 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 23:18
52. Posted by Robin S. | March 16, 2005 11:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
NEXT up, Scott? We've already been there.
Unfortunately, the news story I linked to on the topic last year on my blog seems to be gone, but there was a case last April where a woman was suing Coors over her son's death while he was driving drunk. As I recall, she was also planning to sue her son's girlfriend's family, for not stopping him from driving.
52. Posted by Robin S. | March 16, 2005 11:21 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 23:21
53. Posted by Robin S. | March 16, 2005 11:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actually, I did find something on the story here.
53. Posted by Robin S. | March 16, 2005 11:23 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 23:23
54. Posted by John Anderson | March 16, 2005 11:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"According to the federal lawsuit, Caterpillar, Inc. violated international and state law by providing specially designed bulldozers to Israeli forces that it knew would be used to demolish homes and endanger civilians." Uh, that is according to the filers of the suit, who filed in a Federal court - you seem to imply it is the government. Oh, and if by "specially designed" they mean the armor addons, that is done in Israel. Otherwise, "special design" just means Caterpillar makes more than one type of 'dozer.
And someone mentioned the D9 model. Yeah, the organization she was involved with said that, but they were way off-base: the D9 is over two stories tall! The Israeli Defense Force website has a couple of pics, if you can't find it on Caterpillar's site. It is indeed a "special design", meant for making a road or runway in a single pass! The 'dozer Ms. Corrie was run over by can be found on almost any construction site.
And Ms. Corrie also violated her organization's rules. She was alone (the others were still in the house finishing lunch), and she went to her knees (making it difficult to move out of the way) - both against her training. These points are based on quotes made by the others who were there before they got back to group HQ and were told to say other things and not mention these...
54. Posted by John Anderson | March 16, 2005 11:31 PM |
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Posted on March 16, 2005 23:31
55. Posted by julie | March 17, 2005 1:21 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Paul, I was going to write about this,
Jay, sue him.
but I knew I could not possibly match the derisive contempt and scorn you master.
Paul, sue him.
55. Posted by julie | March 17, 2005 1:21 AM |
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Posted on March 17, 2005 01:21
56. Posted by Henry | March 17, 2005 2:21 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
tsk there goes julie and her "frivilous lawsuits" again.
56. Posted by Henry | March 17, 2005 2:21 AM |
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Posted on March 17, 2005 02:21
57. Posted by Paul | March 17, 2005 3:27 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can't look at that 60's lib mother without getting really angry. Rachel is a product of that.
57. Posted by Paul | March 17, 2005 3:27 AM |
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Posted on March 17, 2005 03:27
58. Posted by wavemaker | March 17, 2005 8:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I like julie's approach. Sue everbody.
This law suit reminds me of my favorite Jerky Boys routine where the caller was upset by the things someone said to him ("I was hurt by his words" ),and the lawyer says "that's a very complicated injury you have, you should make an appointment to see me."
This kind of bullshit lawsuit makes me embarrassed to be a lawyer. How can any lawyer with self-respect file such a claim? Of course, it is my hope that such a rhetorical question will spark a string of lawyer jokes.
58. Posted by wavemaker | March 17, 2005 8:58 AM |
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Posted on March 17, 2005 08:58
59. Posted by julie | March 17, 2005 9:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Not frivilous, Henry. Frilly, frilly lawsuits.
59. Posted by julie | March 17, 2005 9:24 AM |
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Posted on March 17, 2005 09:24
60. Posted by Ray Hanania | March 20, 2005 9:52 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I am amazed at the hatred expressed on this web site. But it does help to let people know who is promoting racism, the new anti-Semitism and true ugliness in this world. Rachel Corrie is an American who deserves to be treated as such, rather than to be vilified by individuals who obviously hate America.
60. Posted by Ray Hanania | March 20, 2005 9:52 AM |
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Posted on March 20, 2005 09:52
61. Posted by elisheva | July 6, 2005 12:19 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Why is it that there is only one rachel corrie but hundreds and hundreds of murdered Israelis? Who do we sue? Who do we blame with our children's deaths? Where is the justice for the Israeli children who were not peace activists, who never purposefully put their lives on the line...who just wanted to dance, to eat, to walk down the street...to be kids?
61. Posted by elisheva | July 6, 2005 12:19 AM |
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Posted on July 6, 2005 00:19
62. Posted by King Goy | November 27, 2005 1:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You fucking Zionist kykes kill me. The more you open your mouths, the more you cause others to wonder if Der Fuher was right.
62. Posted by King Goy | November 27, 2005 1:52 PM |
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Posted on November 27, 2005 13:52
63. Posted by saddened | November 29, 2005 11:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Truthfully, individuals and groups on both sides of any modern conflict can be found guilt of inflicting attrocities on their opposition. Any individual who deprives another of their basic freedom to live is guilty of just that. You can always "justify" actions. Daily everybody overlooks human attrocities. People are blinded by money and their own pride. The worlds not going to change any time soon.
It saddens me greatly to see people still bashing Corrie. Its not her fault she was murdered. You can only blame the driver.
In the end we are all responsible for our own action.
Does anyone remember that famous picture from the Tiananmen Square masacre of a single man halting a line of Chinese tanks?
This mam, like Corrie, was standing up for someone else, whether they we're right or wrong. It takes a lot of guts to do that. I don't think either of them steped out believing they were not putting their life in danger. they did it because they felt at the time what they were doing was the right thing to do. Fortunately the man delayed the tanks and survived. Corries wasn't so fortunate, but you can't blame her for standing up in what she believed.
In anycase its time you Corrie bashers grow up.
63. Posted by saddened | November 29, 2005 11:27 PM |
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Posted on November 29, 2005 23:27