How about an update on the fake republican talking points? You know, the one all the Pull- the-Tube- People pointed to as "proof" that those who don't think like them were using Schiavo for purely political purposes?

Terri's got a helluva blogroll. I can't believe she left me off.

Having Jesse Jackson visit my deathbed would be enough to kill me.

I think selling the list of donators is extremely over the top-granted a lot of groups do this, it is still tacky to me.

So wrong, but you're lying if you said you didn't laugh (or groan).

Uhhhhnnnggghhhh!!

I hear that George Felos is being courted by Revlon as a Beauty Tips consultant. The may develop a line of cosmetics targeted towards the "on their deathbed" market. Like they say, it's better to look good than to feel good.

It was described as being "five milligrams of morphine" that she was administered on two different occasions, hardly anything that most people would necessarily experience as being much different in reaction to a higher-potency valium.

But, the question to me is, if she's 'dead already' and "doesn't experience anything" and as per George Felos, is undergoing 'a beautiful experienc' and other similar, THEN WHY THE MORPHINE?

Someone, somewhere, with license to dispense/administer a controlled substance (morphine is a controlled substance, in any dosage or generic equivalent) noticed a display of discomfort sufficient to merit dispensing/administering morphine (they can lose their license otherwise, can't administer a controlled substance, partiuclarly -- separate licensing from other pharmaceuticals -- without appropriate reasons to do so and that discounts the realm of 'feelings' and such), issued/administered the morphine.

Meaning, someone (with assumed capability to do so by license) observed an indication of pain/suffering sufficient to require administering a controlled substance. So, Terri Schiavo is alive and suffering, I guess we can conclude, despite the demands otherwise.

I don't agree that the disability rights 'movement' is apart/opposite that of pro-lifers. Other than that there is a subset of persons who think that death/eunasia is some "right" to die...but most among disability rights support the right to life, not death, as a motive. They want to remain alive despite grim circumstances and not be rushed to death simply because of impairment and perceived inconvenience to others. Which is quite the position of the right to life movement.

I KNOW WHY AND I HAVE STATED SHE WOULD BE SEDATED BEFORE......... IN CASE YOU'VE FORGOTTEN.....IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY, ASK ME.

CINDY

Morphine is a narcotic pain killer not a seditive. Buy a PDR.

Well....to be fair in effect, morphine and all narcotics reduce cardiovascular functionality (reduce a heart rate and breathing intensity and therefore the blood flow rate throughout a body)...so, they can and do make for "a sedative" EFFECT but you're right that morphine isn't a sedative. Just that they produce a sedated physiology as to the cardiovascular function.

Never missing a chance to grab some attention, Jesse Jackson turned "Conservative for a Day" and showed up in Pinellas Park.

Can The Blessed Reverend Al Sharpton and Jiminy Carter be far behind?

WRT to the CBS thing, all MSM organizations put together obits of famous people ahead of time, usually years ahead of time. Some low-level flunkie made a mistake by pushing it live, and the mistake was quickly corrected. Big deal.

As for the morphine, it's SOP for anyone near death. Terri is under what they call CMO orders (comfort measures only), and in such an instance the hospice has only two real roles: Reduce or eliminate pain as much as possible, and make the patient as comfortable as possible. This is almost always accomplished by the administration of morphine, and has nothing to do with the state of Terri's brain. They're giving it to her because they give it to everyone.

Comfort? Everyone's been saying her brain has turned to water -- why does she need comfort, unless there really is a brain there after all?

HELP! HELP!

THE SAME PERSON WHO HAS BROKEN INTO MY HOUSE, HELD A GUN TO MY HEAD, AND MADE ME READ ABOUT TERRI SCHIAVO IS DOING IT AGAIN!

thfirstbrokenangel

George Felos one of the higher-functioning schizophrenics? His "soul speak" talent that he describes that he has (his "special power") that "communicates" to George Felos that people "want to die" seems very much like the language of a schizophrenic to my read. Or at least a murderer, of which some are schizophrenics, just saying....

I went to the "blog". I didn't laugh, and I'm not lying.

I agree with McGehee...the administration of morphine (anything) for "comfort" purposes would require that she be both alive and experiencing discomfort that would then require some "treatment" or another or others.

What D. Carter wrote (^^).

I was wondering where the idea of humor entered into that, and considering starting a "Pond Scum Impersonates Terri Shiavo Blog" just to provide some reality.

That blog is disgusting....beyond disgusting. Did you actually read any of the posted comments to the entries?

HELP! HELP!

THE SAME PERSON WHO HAS BROKEN INTO MY HOUSE, HELD A GUN TO MY HEAD, AND MADE ME READ ABOUT TERRI SCHIAVO IS DOING IT AGAIN!

thfirstbrokenangel

Posted by: too sedated to spell my own name right at March 29, 2005 10:22 PM

THIS IS NOT ME, FOLKS BUT A PRETEND PERSON. Shocking anyone would use my name.

The morphine is for the stomach and abdominal cramping that they probably can see but she still can't feel it.

I Have to agree with Just Me because if Jesse Jackson every arrived at my house, I would flat line right there, never mind what Palmateer said. I actually laughed out loud on that one!!!

So someone is impersonating me again. God, I will be glad when this is over.

Cindy

RE: McGehee's post (March 29, 2005 10:00 PM)
Comfort? Everyone's been saying her brain has turned to water -- why does she need comfort, unless there really is a brain there after all?

Cerebrospinal fluid, actually. There are some regions of functional brain, obviously, and no one is saying that the brain is entirely gone. Most of the cortex is gone but some lower brain still exists and functions.

The morphine is to help soothe the patient by reducing pain and/or produce euphoria. The "best" opioid receptors reside in the thalamus which, I'll assume, exists in some capacity in Mrs. Schiavo. While the pain receptors may be receptive to stimuli, that signal needs to be "interpreted" as pain by the brain. The cerebral cortex is responsible for this interpretation of conscious perception. This might explain why some believe that Mrs. Schiavo is not sensing "pain". Endogenous or exogenous opiates may or may not provide any tangible effect on pain sensation.

Did Edwards and Felos go to the same law school? It appears they both took the same spirit channelling class.

James Bernat is a professor of neurology at the Dartmouth Medical School in Hanover, New Hampshire, says about the dose of morphine:

"Since some relatives claim she is not in PVS, this practice reassures them she will not suffer," Bernat said".

On a NY Times article today, March 29th, Another doctor with long experience treating patients at the end of life, Douglas Nelson of Hickory, N.C., said that providing morphine to a patient in a persistent vegetative state was unnecessary because the patient would be unaware of pain or discomfort.

But, Dr. Nelson said, "It's not uncommon for the nurse to suggest, 'Let's just give her a suppository to be on the safe side.' "

See how easy it is to do research and stop pretending that Schiavo received morphine therefore she's in pain? There is a little more to it than that.