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ACLU Wants Teachers, Principal Jailed For Praying

The organization that defends the National Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) knows who the really dangerous people who should be "removed from society" are - any teacher or administrator who prays at school.

NEW ORLEANS -- The American Civil Liberties Union has asked a federal judge to jail public school teachers and administrators for allegedly violating a court-imposed ban on school prayers.

It's the fourth time the ACLU has told Judge Ginger Berrigan that officials in Louisiana's Tangipahoa Parish are flouting her prayer ban.

This time, the ACLU said an elementary school teacher repeatedly held prayers in her fourth-grade class, encouraged students to bring their Bibles to school, held Bible studies in the school cafeteria and admonished students who didn't show up.

In addition, the ACLU cited a prayer "in Jesus' name" that was recently given over a high school's public address system while the principal sat by silently.

The ACLU said school officials' violation of the prayer ban "must result in their removal from society"

Funny that's what the vast majority of the populace believes should happen to the the child raping sickos of NAMBLA that the ACLU is so proud to work with...

Update: The teachers and administrators who ALLEGEDLY violated the prayer ban, if they actually did so, are wrong. What offense they would be charge with is unknown to me - that's presumably spelled out court order. Calling for jail time ignores the more logical sanction for those who are found guilty of repeated violations - removal from their job.


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Comments (18)

Yea, maybe the ACLU will de... (Below threshold)
oej:

Yea, maybe the ACLU will demand the Bibles be flushed down the toilet. What a bunch of asshats!

oej

This would not happen in a ... (Below threshold)
dodgeman:

This would not happen in a school district unless the majority of parents already support it. That's what a lot of people forget. Odds are the ACLU is an uninvited guest to the party.

I have to deal with the opposite, where some numbnuts "universalist" is telling my kid that all religions are the same (which means none of them matter, basically). I've called the principal on several occasions. Why doesn't the ACLU investigate that?

Before anyone jumps on this... (Below threshold)
trb:

Before anyone jumps on this one, it may be important to point out that she was also admonishing students for not showing up. That's pretty clearly a violation of most schools' policies. Whether it should be or not is another debate entirely; teachers know where they stand concerning any religious indoctrination.

--trb

The ACLU/MABLA thing is a r... (Below threshold)
Conservanatrix:

The ACLU/MABLA thing is a red herring and you know it. As a non-Christian who was forced to recite the Lord's Prayer every morning in elementary school, I feel strong that the separation of church and state should be enforced. The teacher has no right to force the Bible down anyone's throat. There are churches, Sunday schools, etc. where kids can get religious instruction. The school system should remain secular.

Absolutely, defining religi... (Below threshold)
aasleka:

Absolutely, defining religion as a teacher of young children is wrong. The parents of these children should be teching them Gods law not the school system. By living as an example in their faith is the best way to teach children, not by admonoshing children for failing to convert.
Even Jesus didn't go to the temple till he was almost a teenager.

Good for the ACLU on this one.

BTW do you really believe they support child molesting and all that or are just wathcing out for civil rights so that no precedents are set that can be used to infringe upon the greater public.

I don't get you Kevin. You... (Below threshold)

I don't get you Kevin. Your ending comment seems to contradict what is in the blue box.

What's wrong with prayer in school?

Please explain further.

Cindy

This would not happen in... (Below threshold)
mantis:

This would not happen in a school district unless the majority of parents already support it. That's what a lot of people forget. Odds are the ACLU is an uninvited guest to the party.

It doesn't matter if all the parents support it, forcing children to pray in public school is against the law. Remember the law? And as far as the ACLU being uninvited, how do you think they received the information that this school was disobeying the judges orders? Hidden cameras? No, from the parents.

Conservanatrix wrote:</b... (Below threshold)
Sue Dohnim:

Conservanatrix wrote:
As a non-Christian who was forced to recite the Lord's Prayer every morning in elementary school,

I find it very hard to believe you forced to recite the Lord's Prayer in a public elementary school every morning.

I could understand it if you're talking about a Catholic school, but not a public one, at least not one in the last fifty years.

were forced, sorry.<... (Below threshold)
Sue Dohnim:

were forced, sorry.

There's a lot more going on... (Below threshold)
mantis:

There's a lot more going on in Tangipahoa Parish it seems:

More Arrests Made in Case of Bizarre Sex Ring

And check out the google search.

I'm glad I don't live in Louisiana.

Repeated, willful violation... (Below threshold)

Repeated, willful violations of court orders ought to be responded to by jailing the offenders for contempt of court (see, e.g., Susan McDougal). Besides, the judge can't lawfully order that someone be fired from their job for being in contempt (though one would think a responsible school district would fire employees who are subjecting them to costly litigation in a well-settled area of the law).

I can't believe the ACLU is... (Below threshold)
job alexander:

I can't believe the ACLU is trying to get that law enforced. It's just a good thing O'Reilly set me straight about them. Who the hell do they think they are, some minister in South Carolina kicking people out of his parish for not voting for Bush?

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I don't know where to freak... (Below threshold)
David Pattison:

I don't know where to freakin' start!
I HATE ATHEISTS!!! I HATE PERVERTS!!!
I HATE ACLU!!! I HATE NAMBLA!!!

Everyone should be allowed to pray anywhere they want to!

I'm going to walk onto school campuses and (without anybody's permission) put religious stuff up on their walls.
I don't care if I go to jail for it!
I put the 10 Commandments up in my high school.

PRAYER IS NOT A CRIME!
SO IF YOU'RE AN ATHEIST, SHUT UP!

now is the time to pray any... (Below threshold)
rose:

now is the time to pray anywhere and everywhere not by force but freely permit it and also study scripture memorise it keep it in your heart then it can not be taken from you and will be a light in the coming and present darkness but also love your enemies and pray for those who hate you

This whole "ACLU loves NAMB... (Below threshold)
Ryan W.:

This whole "ACLU loves NAMBLA" thing is a red herring.

The school teacher can pray wherever she wants. Noone is being jailed for praying. Noone. At all.

At issue is the fact that teachers are forcing their students to pray in the manner of a particular faith, whether they want to or not. That's not their job.

I'm amazed at how often supposedly religious people try and misrepresent this issue. Do they really think that an honest telling of things would paint them in such a bad light that they have to twist things? I don't.

Regarding NAMBLA and the ACLU; people have a right to free speech. Even those of sick and evil viewpoints. If only popular speech is protected, then we don't really have freedom of speech at all. If someone from NAMBLA turns their speech into action, they should be jailed as they will be. The law is still the law. And if a teacher was preaching NAMBLA doctrine in a school, I doubt "free speech" would help him or her keep their jobs. But if we can't even discuss actions that are illegal, then why have a democracy in the first place?

I don't know where to freak... (Below threshold)
Rosemary:

I don't know where to freakin' start!
I HATE ATHEISTS!!! I HATE PERVERTS!!!
I HATE ACLU!!! I HATE NAMBLA!!!

Everyone should be allowed to pray anywhere they want to!

PRAYER IS NOT A CRIME!
SO IF YOU'RE AN ATHEIST, SHUT UP!
Posted by: David Pattison at June 7, 2005 09:40 PM


Why is it that religious people can cram their beliefs down everybody else's throat, and they're just supposed to take it, but when atheists try to protest, religious people get all pissy about it? I believe freedom of speech is a right granted to everyone, not just religious groups.

Schools should be a place o... (Below threshold)
chris:

Schools should be a place of learning facts, not opinions.




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