...it fell to earth I know not where."
One the interesting things of finally having a published wizbangblog.com address is that people send me all sorts of interesting things. After I wade through the (literal) dozens of viruses and spams, there's usually a few good things in there.
(Note: this is NOT a request to sign me up for any sort of lists. I've already gotten one guy canned from two ISPs for refusing to take me off his mailing list, and reported another guy for sending me daily updates on his blog. It was actually a pretty good site, but sending me a daily synopsis and telling me that if I don't like it, feel free to unsubscribe is a really, REALLY bad way to get my attention.)
Recently, some whacko from the South (which is relevant -- my apologies to non-whacko Southerners) decided I really, REALLY needed to hear about his push to get a "Real Conservative" elected and to "take back the GOP from the Neocons." I'm including his entire original e-mail in the extended section, along with my response.
GOP Revolt on the Right Begins Against the Neocon Takeover
The Draft Donnie Kennedy Campaign For President in 2008 Is Gearing Up - http://www.libertybasedsociety.org
Read more about Ronald Kennedy's new book "Reclaiming Liberty" and their brilliant plan to run a Southern conservative candidate in the 2008 GOP Presidential Primaries. This is the best last chance for Dixie and the United States to turn from an aggressive, perpetual war empire abroad and centralized federal state at home back to the Republic of Republics and a liberty-based society as established by our patriot founding fathers. Help promote a Liberty Based Society and the Kennedy Brothers plan for liberty by linking to & forwarding this URL http://www.libertybasedsociety.org to all of your friends.
Please sign up for the Draft Kennedy Campaign Newsletter on the website and you can contact us at kennedyforpresident2008@yahoo.com
I sent back the following:
Thank you very much for sending me this information. As a proudly self-proclaimed Neocon, for the most part, I welcome the opportunity to find out exactly what the far right Know-Nothing wing of the Right is planning. A peek into what the other side is thinking and doing is always valuable.
Also, on your web site you mention that there is a Neocon conspiracy, a cabal, that is plotting all sorts of things. I'm currently a free-lance Neocon, and I would very much like to get in on this -- for one, it looks like it pays well, and I could use the money. Could you please give me some contact information?
J.
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And here I thought the GOP ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Jay | June 21, 2005 2:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And here I thought the GOP was being screwed by the whackiest right and needed to be taken back from them, not the other way around.
1. Posted by Jay | June 21, 2005 2:37 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 14:37
2. Posted by mesablue | June 21, 2005 4:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'm free-lancing as well. When you find out who's in charge of our cabal, please let us know.
Besides, if they are going to find someone to save us, couldn't they find someone other than a Kennedy?
Ugh, my stomach turns at the thought of the name Kennedy associated with the 2008 election.
2. Posted by mesablue | June 21, 2005 4:22 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 16:22
3. Posted by ed | June 21, 2005 4:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
On the other hand I was doing some searching for cured whole tobacco leaf, I'm interested in learning how to roll my own cigars, so I made the mistake of hitting WikkiPedia. Now I know it's a mistake because every time I've run into that site in the past, it's all gone belly-up.
WikkiPedia
Well this is no different. I point you to the quote:
"In the 1990s, cigar smoking may have been a backlash to feminism despite the numerous women smokers. Cigar bars were where retrograde political opinions could be expressed and put on trial, as it were in hopes of a return to the 19th century, with the cigar smoker invited not to join the proletariat but instead the plutocracy."
And here I thought I was enjoying a good smoke. I had no idea I was backlashing at feminism. I wish I had known.
3. Posted by ed | June 21, 2005 4:36 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 16:36
4. Posted by McGehee | June 21, 2005 5:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." --Dr. Sigmund Freud
4. Posted by McGehee | June 21, 2005 5:22 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 17:22
5. Posted by melior | June 21, 2005 7:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The term 'neocon' is disputed by many neocons.
'Israelofascist' is more appropriate, and less contentious.
5. Posted by melior | June 21, 2005 7:40 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 19:40
6. Posted by -S- | June 21, 2005 9:23 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think the first author was Howard Dean and the second one was Hillary Clinton.
Just gotta' make themselves the "real" conservatives and make everyone else "far, far away" in any direction other than down.
6. Posted by -S- | June 21, 2005 9:23 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 21:23
7. Posted by -S- | June 21, 2005 9:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ha, what mesablue wrote...I was just wondering where my cabal is and why they haven't had me over fer' supper.
7. Posted by -S- | June 21, 2005 9:24 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 21:24
8. Posted by mesablue | June 22, 2005 3:29 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
-S-,
I'm sure we could have a nice dinner in certain parts of Cape Cod or Arkansas.
And, Ed, at least you didn't have to learn the lesson that the LA Times did when they decided to go Wiki. Hilarious.
"Sometimes a cigar is NOT just a cigar." -- Monica.
8. Posted by mesablue | June 22, 2005 3:29 AM |
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Posted on June 22, 2005 03:29
9. Posted by Red Phillips | June 23, 2005 9:17 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Don't you think that what is and is not a real conservative and whether or not neocons qualify deserves more intelligent discussion than just sneering remarks and putting quotes around the word real?
I would suggest that at a minimum a real conservative must believe that the federal government should do nothing not specifically authorized in the Constitution. Therefore they should oppose all non constitutionally authorized spending which is almost all of it. But specifically would include Social Security, Medicare, Welfare, Unemployment, etc. etc. etc.
Also, a real conservative would not support the big government, Wilsonian Democrat foreign policy of globetrotting around the world to make it safe for Democracy.
Do you agree? What do you think would qualify someone to be a real conservative if you disagree?
How is support for New Deal unconstitutional programs and activist foreign policy, in any way conservative?
Notice, I did not give any indication that I think these positions are popular or at this point could get elected. So a response along the lines of "try getting elected on a platform of abolishing SS," does not address the question.
Red Phillips (etherzone.com columnist and self anointed crusader for the restoration of real conservatism)
BTW, I found this site while Googling "Donnie Kennedy President 2008." I could very easily support a Donnie Kennedy GOP primary run.
9. Posted by Red Phillips | June 23, 2005 9:17 AM |
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Posted on June 23, 2005 09:17