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Powerline obtained the SF-180's signed by John Kerry authorizing release of his complete service record on a one time basis to three reporters. Not being military records experts they (and I) have no idea if there's anything significant missing from the request. On the surface it appears to be exactly what is was purported to be by Kerry's camp.
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Comments (13)
"I’m going to sit down with... (Below threshold)1. Posted by arb | June 21, 2005 4:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I’m going to sit down with them and make sure that they are clear and I am clear as to what is in the record and what isn’t in the record and we’ll put it out. I have no problem with that."
- John Kerry 1/30/2005
Uh huh.
1. Posted by arb | June 21, 2005 4:58 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 04:58
2. Posted by mark m | June 21, 2005 7:00 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So...two forms filled out in May and one in June and Kerry didn't fill them out himself.....SO???. What about the records????
2. Posted by mark m | June 21, 2005 7:00 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 07:00
3. Posted by joe | June 21, 2005 9:28 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Mark's got the right point--form 180 is of little interest. Let's see the actual records.
3. Posted by joe | June 21, 2005 9:28 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 09:28
4. Posted by Parker | June 21, 2005 9:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What we don't know is what agreement these hand-picked recipients may have made about their use and further dissemination of the records.
4. Posted by Parker | June 21, 2005 9:38 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 09:38
5. Posted by andy | June 21, 2005 10:05 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And the conspiracy theories have already started... I'm no Kerry fan, not in the least, but no matter what he does, even if he had the records mailed directly to the White House, some of you (e.g. Parker) would be theorizing he paid off members of the USPS to switch in fakes.
Can RepblicanUnderground.com be far behind?
5. Posted by andy | June 21, 2005 10:05 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 10:05
6. Posted by andy | June 21, 2005 10:06 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Republican," even.
6. Posted by andy | June 21, 2005 10:06 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 10:06
7. Posted by Yankee Sailor | June 21, 2005 10:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
With the reputations of the Globe and LA Times, I doubth there would need to be any express or implied agreement behind the scenes - other than don't leak the records. I don't know about this guy from AP, but I'm sure he was hand-picked and deemed trustworthy by the Kerry camp.
So, now Kerry can say he released the records, and we and other compeitors and critics of the MSM can say that Kerry was, shall we say, choosing his own jury.
This argument won't die yet....
7. Posted by Yankee Sailor | June 21, 2005 10:38 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 10:38
8. Posted by Don | June 21, 2005 10:56 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If the records are so innocuous and only serve to support Kerry (except for his poor grades)...then why the delay in signing the 180 and producing the records. Either he's a political idiot or he was and still is hiding something.
8. Posted by Don | June 21, 2005 10:56 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 10:56
9. Posted by Parker | June 21, 2005 10:57 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I don't claim (or even mean to imply) conspiracy.
I would like to see the complete record set.
I would like to know if the recipients have made any agreement with Senator Kerry about their use or redistribution of the records.
This seems to me to be a reasonable and germane question under the circumstances - if there is no such agreement, why not cut to the chase and authorize release to any interested party. (Then you'd only need one form, too.)
Part of the reason for my curiosity is the fact that the completion of a simple, one-page form has been so fraught with controversy, and has taken such an extended period of time to accomplish.
9. Posted by Parker | June 21, 2005 10:57 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 10:57
10. Posted by The Unabrewer | June 21, 2005 11:27 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I agree with Don, but I'm leaning far towards the "political idiot" side of the equation.
10. Posted by The Unabrewer | June 21, 2005 11:27 AM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 11:27
11. Posted by Brad | June 21, 2005 12:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Question (because I don't know): Does the SF-180 unlock the memories and lips of those previously silenced by the Privacy Act?
11. Posted by Brad | June 21, 2005 12:06 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 12:06
12. Posted by scrapiron | June 21, 2005 1:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It doesn't take much to determine he is still playing games. His records were modified after he was released from active duty and assigned to the active reserves, in which I have never found a record of him serving one day. Everyone know that all the records modifications took place after his release from active duty, so what we are looking for is in he reserve records and he conviently neglected to check that block. He's always been a traitor and still is.
12. Posted by scrapiron | June 21, 2005 1:22 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 13:22
13. Posted by -S- | June 21, 2005 9:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So, here we have Kerry proving his goose is cooked. All these years, all these delays...no one with even a tad of balance and credibility would have dawdled and rewritten and reconstructed a "military record" as has John Kerry, and all that for what?
Kerry is such a sleazey guy. I mean, just such a sleazy person. Perhaps it's a ruse to make us feel gratitude for the 'ethics' of Joe Biden.
13. Posted by -S- | June 21, 2005 9:38 PM |
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Posted on June 21, 2005 21:38