Jay Tea,

What an obscure and ridiculous reach of a story. People like you give the fine state of NH a bad name. At least the New Hampshire had the sense to turn blue in the last election and elect a D governor, hehe. Unfortunately for you the Granite State is being infiltrated from the South by those heathen Communist Bay Staters. I love it!

JmaR,

Do you have a comment on the STORY, or are you just preening?

joe, which part of "obscure and ridiculous reach of a story" didn't come through?

So, you think no one should get to have a weapon, 2nd Amendment be damned?

I'm for strict gun control laws. This country has an epidemic problem with gun violence and if we got a handle on it it would go a long way toward making this country safer, especially for kids (reference Columbine and Red Lake, etc.). Law enforcement officials should have guns, period. Just my honest opinion.

Well, take a look at Britain. That's what they do. And crime there is skyrocketing because criminals know that regular people can't defend themselves.

I was amazed by the number of arrests I saw in London a few years back. And I'm from Detroit.

Speaking of crime beginning to run rampant in Britain; AlphaPatriot has an ongoing series, lots of sources.

Quick synopses, or abstract if you prefer: Crime continues to rise in severity, including a sharp increase in crimes committed with firearms, despite strict laws.

From the National Education Association website:

America and Gun Violence

* Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence. (Coalition to Stop Gun Violence)
* The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
* American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control)

FRom the National Education Assoc. website:

America and Gun Violence

* Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence. (Coalition to Stop Gun Violence)
* The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
* American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control)

Sorry about the double dip...latency is bad.

obscure and ridiculous

Yep, JmaR, that's you to a "T."

McGhee, I checked out your website, very nice. Is that a family portrait at the top? Yipee-ki-yay indeed.

JmaR,

Your sources are the NEA, Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, and the CDC, and not one of them has an anti-gun agenda do they? For some info on the other side take a scroll through gunfacts.info, it probably won't change your mind but at least you can see both sides of the argument.

JmaR:

Yeah, seen those statistics posted alot before. Seen them debunked alot before too. Though, I will admit my favorite is this one:

"American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined."

It says absolutely nothing when you actually look at it. Ok, kids in the USA are more likely to be murdered, etc with a gun, unfortunately what are their chances to be murdered period compared to those other nations? That is a far more interesting statistic. Personally if a child is murdered it does not matter what was used to do it, that is nothing more than a cheap scare tactic.

Then there is the question whether the places where death by a firearm is high is in those states with more restrictive or less restrictive laws? This is a vital question when setting up a stastical probability on a national scale. Chicago and Washington DC have far higher murder rates, and presumably murders committed with a firearm, than, say, the entire state of Colorado.

Also, it is great to draw up number like that to scare people about accidental deaths then not compare them to, say, motor vehicles and swimming pools.

The only useful statistics for the gun rights/control debate by themselves are the ones that show increasing or decreasing trend, as in are such events decreasing or increasing. Just stating numbers about the liklihood of X happening without context is worthless.

So you folks don't think we have a problem with gun crimes in this country? You don't believe that fewer guns on the street will equate to fewer gun crimes?

Nope. What I believe is that fewer people attempt gun crimes when they have reason to fear that the innocent responsible citizens surrounding them might be packing heat as well.

And what I also know is that apparently, in Britian it's not enough to ban guns, doctors are calling for a ban on kitchen knives too! Hey man, knives don't kill people, people do!

Further restricting gun ownership by honest people doesn't lead to 'fewer guns on the street'; it leads to criminals with guns and honest people with none.

Which, as pointed out above, isn't exactly working out real well in Britain and Australia. Or a lot of other places.

But JmaR, look, I'm a believer in the democratic process, and if you can get a repeal of the second amendment through the approval process, more power to you.

Did you hear the next thing the Brits want to ban are kitchen knives with sharp points? I'm not kidding. (Wonder if cricket bats will have to be registered?)

Also, by LAW, you are not allowed to defend yourself. If your house is invaded, you are supposed to hide and call the police to let "professionals" handle it. If you do defend yourself, you will be charged with assault.

A glib quote from some author (don't remember offhand) is:

"An armed society is a polite society."

In America, burglaries with residents home are a low percentage of total burglaries. That's because the bad guys don't want to end up dead. In Britain, over 50% of burglaries happen when people are home.

Guns -- so dangerous!

Did you hear about the nutcase militia men up there in Massachusetts that got together a bunch of military-grade guns, even field artillery--the big boomers? It was too much for the locals to handle, so the governor arranged for some real help--they sent in a combined unit made up of regular infrantry and the marines. About 800 of them.

What a fight! These milita-maniacs had several spies in the govenment's midst, so they were really ready. They slaughtered the military regulars.

What? You didn't hear about that? Yes, you did.

One of the spies was named Paul Revere. Lexington & Concord. British troops trying to seize guns from Americans was the start of the revolution.

Guess what? It was a similar thing with the Texas revolution. Look at the "Come and Take It!" flag for a hint.

So -- sit down and shut up. Screw your "statistics" from freedom-hating organizations. IT'S A RIGHT!

The quote was from that great, great American -- Robert A. Heinlein.

A child under the age of 10 is 7 times more likely to drown than be killed with a firearm, yet anyone can buy a kiddie pool for under $10 at Wal-Mart.

Too bad drownings don't draw viewers.

Kos was not alone. Several members of the MSM/DNC said the same thing or words to that effect. I do remember! Ask Nancy Pelosi if she can remember what she said. My guess is it will have "skipped her mind".

Vehicle accidents account for over three times as many deaths as firearms (and more firearm deaths are suicides, not homicides). I haven't heard any moonbat drives to ban cars entirely (except, of course, for law enforcement officers). Alcohol is a major factor in at least half of vehicle accidents, so I'd think the moon bats would also restrict its use to law enforcement officers too. As long as everyone can smoke pot...

JmaR u are a total moron! Keep believing the lies that the wacked out left tells u, since u are truely an American"SHEEPLE", BAAAAAAAAAA!!!

The marine of the year in your story has just shot two people who were in the parking lot of a club by his home. He has been charged with attempted murder.

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