Many have wondered what was the purpose of the "Who's Who In America" sitting on the desk in yesterday's Robert Novak walk-off incident on CNN's Inside Politics.

Josh Marshall points out this tidbit from an a Chicago Sun-Times piece on the incident explains:
In a column that ran in the Sun-Times on Monday, Novak suggested he learned Plame's identity partly from reading Who's Who in America. A CNN source said a producer had placed a copy of Who's Who on the set Thursday prior to the taping, apparently so it could be consulted while Novak was asked about the issue.So what would they have found?
Here's what's inside the book siting on that desk...
Melvin Schuetz from Baylor's Moody Library forwarded Joseph Wilson's bio from the 2003 edition of Who's Who in America [Volume 2 (L-Z)]. He notes:
- Wilson's entry carries over about 5 lines to the next column, which is why it cuts off in mid-sentence at the end. The relevant text is "m. Valerie Elise Plame, Apr. 3, 1998," which not only appears in the 2003 edition, but ALL editions from 1999-2005!
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Update: For the commenters and blogs tracking back saying variation of, "Plame's identity was never a secret," (a point I address below at the ***) this post originally related back to what the book was doing on the table [See yesterday's post on the Novak meltdown]. Was it supposed to scare Novak? Given the content of the book why would it? It says what he said it said...
Update 2: More on Novak and Plame later, but perhaps the raging debate in the comment section can dissect what effect, if any, Novak's piece would have had if he used Valerie Wilson instead of Valerie Plame? Also do you think Novak, on hearing of the wife's involvement got her name from Who's Who and stuck with it OR found the Who's Who reference to backup his source(s)?
*** Evidently one cannot even make a snarky remark about the Plame affair without having to explain oneself ad nauseum. OK here goes...
I'm over generalizing here, but it seem like there wasn't an outing of an agent until two non-secret bits of information were combined.Joseph Wilson's wife's maiden name, most would now agree, was not a secret. That Wilson worked at the CIA was not widely known, but it was hardly a secret [See Cliff May at NRO and Just One Minute]. That Wilson's wife was (or had been) a covert operative was only known to (if reports are to be believed) the Cuban government and perhaps those receiving information form Aldrich Ames, but it was still a secret. Novak puts two pieces of non-secret information together and gets this flashpoint.
But how did that combination "out" a covert agent? I turns out the the Valerie Plame name (remember, according to many commenters her name's no big deal) was her cover. If her cover name was Valerie Jones how exactly would Novak's column as it was written have "outed" her? It's wouldn't have. As former federal prosecutor Joesph DiGenoa contends it sure looks like the CIA didn't exactly bust a nut to "take every conceivable step to protect this person's identity."
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Interesting quote from the ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by mcg | August 5, 2005 2:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Interesting quote from the Who's Who web page:
Who's Who in America has proven to be of critical reference value to a wide variety of users...
* Fund-raisers, civic groups, foundations
* Lawyers, politicians
* Financial analysts, brokers
* Journalists, radio/TV news editors
* Executive recruiters
* Government officials, diplomats
* Business leaders
* Scientists, educators, students
* Speaker and search committees
* Advertising and PR agencies
1. Posted by mcg | August 5, 2005 2:33 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 14:33
2. Posted by Steve L. | August 5, 2005 2:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
More importantly, "Who's Who" information is provided by the honoree, so it was Wilson himself that put her name in the book.
2. Posted by Steve L. | August 5, 2005 2:39 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 14:39
3. Posted by jmaster | August 5, 2005 2:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Additional info added in his 2005 profile:
2002-2004: Self promoting, opportunistic, Democratic party hack. 2004 to present: Camera hogging, bold faced liar.
3. Posted by jmaster | August 5, 2005 2:41 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 14:41
4. Posted by mantis | August 5, 2005 2:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I don't see where it says she worked for the CIA there.
4. Posted by mantis | August 5, 2005 2:44 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 14:44
5. Posted by jmaster | August 5, 2005 2:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Of course, mantis does make a good point.....
5. Posted by jmaster | August 5, 2005 2:52 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 14:52
6. Posted by Allah | August 5, 2005 2:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I've been following the Plame scandal virtually not at all, but from what I understand, it was never a secret that Joe Wilson was married to Valerie Plame. The secret was that she worked for the CIA. That being so, the Who's Who entry proves nothing.
6. Posted by Allah | August 5, 2005 2:57 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 14:57
7. Posted by Vlad D. Inhaler | August 5, 2005 3:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Don't you think his neighbors knew his wife's name? Her name or who she was married to was never the secret. Identifying Wilson's wife (either by name or by some positive identification such as say... "Joe Wilson's wife") as a CIA operative is what was supposed to be kept secret and that is what is relevant.
As, by the way, is the fact that someone also gave Novak the name of the cover company she worked for, thereby endangering every other operative using that cover.
I know it's hard, but please try to keep your eye on the ball.
7. Posted by Vlad D. Inhaler | August 5, 2005 3:01 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:01
8. Posted by Joe | August 5, 2005 3:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Uhh, Kevin, it was no secret that Joe Wilson was married to a woman named Valerie Plame --- everyone who knew them knew that. What WAS a secret was that she WORKED FOR THE CIA. HOW THE HELL YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IS BEYOND ME.
8. Posted by Joe | August 5, 2005 3:01 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:01
9. Posted by David Studhaltet | August 5, 2005 3:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Of course, as mantis notes above, the fact that she was a covert agent, coupled with the name, was the national security problem. The mere fact that Wilson was married to someone who happened to be named Valerie Plame Wilson wasn't a secret. I should think this would be obvious to anyone whose mind wasn't beclouded by overwhelming right-wing bias.
9. Posted by David Studhaltet | August 5, 2005 3:01 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:01
10. Posted by Ross | August 5, 2005 3:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Why are mid-level government agency analysts getting listings in Who's Who??
10. Posted by Ross | August 5, 2005 3:03 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:03
11. Posted by POed Liberal | August 5, 2005 3:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Where does it list her affiliation with the CIA?
Why is it that today's chicken shit repukes hate the military and the CIA?
Why do repukes defend traitors like Bob Novak?
11. Posted by POed Liberal | August 5, 2005 3:03 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:03
12. Posted by the smartmom | August 5, 2005 3:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"BFD" I agree with mantis. Who's Who is a standard reference used by the organizations in mcg's comment. As an Ambassador, Wilson would have been the type of person to be listed. The biographical data is also standard. None of this excuses the behavior of the Bush administration and their cronies.
12. Posted by the smartmom | August 5, 2005 3:03 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:03
13. Posted by jdough | August 5, 2005 3:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Indeed, given that the criminal statute at issue makes it a crime to identify a covert agent, the Who's Who listing makes it possible to break the law - by saying that Wilson's wife is a CIA operative - without actually naming her.
13. Posted by jdough | August 5, 2005 3:04 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:04
14. Posted by Derelict | August 5, 2005 3:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I gotta admit--it doesn't seem to say anything like "Valerie Plame--undercover operative for the CIA."
Or is the relevant point here that Wilson should have kept his marriage and children secret just on the off chance that someone might try to out his wife?
14. Posted by Derelict | August 5, 2005 3:05 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:05
15. Posted by GOP- an illusionist | August 5, 2005 3:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I bet if you looked up her high school yearbook, she used the name "Valerie Plame" too. Oh wait, that was her name?
Freeptards.
15. Posted by GOP- an illusionist | August 5, 2005 3:05 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:05
16. Posted by bubba | August 5, 2005 3:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's an odd notion indeed, that some people believe in order to be covert you must renounce your given name.
I was always under the impression that what is supressed is not your name, but rather your affiliation with the intelligence community.
16. Posted by bubba | August 5, 2005 3:06 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:06
17. Posted by KTSnip | August 5, 2005 3:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
How exactly is Joe Wilson a liar?
17. Posted by KTSnip | August 5, 2005 3:06 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:06
18. Posted by Tom | August 5, 2005 3:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So, via Who's Who, the name "Valerie Plame" has been associated publicly with Joe Wilson since the Clinton era - nice secret...
The name "Valerie Plame" has been associated publicly with Joe Wilson ever since they got married. Marriage licenses are public record.
Thus, we should prohibit secret government operatives from marrying, having children, being born or dying. After all, once you know somebody's name, the jig is up...
18. Posted by Tom | August 5, 2005 3:07 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:07
19. Posted by Pamela | August 5, 2005 3:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Allah, the CIA agent whose duty it was to deal with the public, told the WaPo and others that he testified that he told Novak the story wasn't true and not to use her name. He told the WaPo that he checked on her covert status, called Novak back and said that the story Novak had wasn't true and he shouldn't write it, but *if he did, he shouldn't use her name*.
And please, the controversy has fluctuated back and forth, but Wilson's original flogging point was that Novak had *revealed her name*, and it's been a point that's been beaten to death. So Kevin's post is directly on point.
19. Posted by Pamela | August 5, 2005 3:07 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:07
20. Posted by Michael Scott | August 5, 2005 3:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Typical wingnut obfuscation and misdirection. The statute in question says "identify" -- not NAME, "identify" a covert agent, . . .
You guys can't all be that stupid -- can you?
20. Posted by Michael Scott | August 5, 2005 3:07 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:07
21. Posted by Gary Johnston | August 5, 2005 3:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
By this logic, in the 007 movies, when James Bond introduces himself to the villains at cocktail parties and tells them that he's "Bond, James Bond," he's actually blowing his cover.
You're not too bright, Kevin.
21. Posted by Gary Johnston | August 5, 2005 3:08 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:08
22. Posted by Who | August 5, 2005 3:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Does the book have an entry for Plame? Just curious.
I never understood why somebody would sign up for 'Who's who" but I once saw it on a job applicant's resume, as if that is some sort of credential.
22. Posted by Who | August 5, 2005 3:08 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:08
23. Posted by Joe | August 5, 2005 3:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'll take Kevin's non-response to the obvious defect in his reasoning as proof of what an intellectually dishonest twit he is.
23. Posted by Joe | August 5, 2005 3:08 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:08
24. Posted by Pamela 2 | August 5, 2005 3:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Pamela:
You're wrong on both counts. The CIA agent did NOT check her covert status and tell Novak he was wrong on that point; he checked to see if Plame had ordered Joe Wilson to go to Niger, and then said that that point was wrong. He stressed that she WAS covert, and told Novak not to print her name.
And you're missing the point. Revealing the name "Valerie Plame" by itself is not a violation of the law (or the public trust), nor is revealing that some anonymous undercover CIA agent did something a violation of the law, or treasonous.
It's mentioning the name "Valerie Plame" as an undercover CIA agent that's the crime, and the treasonous activity. I can see your IQ is very low, so I'll give you a few moments to wrap your head around it.
"Valerie Plame"? Not a secret. There are undercover CIA agents? Not a secret. Valerie Plame was an undercover CIA agent? That's a secret.
Freeptard.
24. Posted by Pamela 2 | August 5, 2005 3:12 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:12
25. Posted by Ross | August 5, 2005 3:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Joe Wilson has been caught in several lies. If you MENSA's knew how to use the Internet, you'd know that already.
Woo-hoo! It's Friday!
25. Posted by Ross | August 5, 2005 3:12 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:12
26. Posted by jmaster | August 5, 2005 3:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wow, these DU'ers really know how to carry out a logical argument, don't they?
26. Posted by jmaster | August 5, 2005 3:13 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:13
27. Posted by Ross | August 5, 2005 3:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Why was Valerie Plame put on "enforced leave"?
27. Posted by Ross | August 5, 2005 3:14 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:14
28. Posted by Michael Scott | August 5, 2005 3:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And please, the controversy has fluctuated back and forth, but Wilson's original flogging point was that Novak had *revealed her name*, and it's been a point that's been beaten to death. So Kevin's post is directly on point.
Jeezus, it's a figure of speech, Pamela. Putting her name right next to the words "CIA operative" is what Wilson was talking about.
Lots of articles talk about Novak "outing" her, too -- does that make her a lesbian?
Get a frickin' clue, people!
28. Posted by Michael Scott | August 5, 2005 3:15 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:15
29. Posted by Pamela | August 5, 2005 3:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Okay, lots of posts while I was commenting. Please pay attention to what the CIA guy said. *The story he (Novak) had wasn't true, but, if he (Novak) wrote it, he shouldn't use her name.*
Note that nowhere did he insist on leaving her out of it completely. So, if we believe what he claims his testimony to the grand jury was (and he's CIA, he wouldn't lie, right?) then you cannot conclude, from what the CIA agent testified, that Novak did anything wrong.
Now, there may be other reasons to conclude guilt, but NOT based on what the CIA guy did. And folks, the statute says that the CIA had to be making concerted effort to protect her covert status. Based on what the CIA agent testified, doesn't sound like they were fulfilling their part of it, if indeed she was covert.
29. Posted by Pamela | August 5, 2005 3:15 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:15
30. Posted by MillionthMonkey | August 5, 2005 3:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wilson's original flogging point was that Novak had *revealed her name*
Are you guys really this stupid, or just pretending to be stupid? Because if you're just pretending, then I feel sorry for you. It must be frustrating to be forced to soil your reputations by making stupid arguments like this one with a straight face. But I guess you have no choice!
This is what Novak wrote:
Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction.
Novak revealed the name as that of a covert CIA agent. The secret wasn't that he had a wife.
30. Posted by MillionthMonkey | August 5, 2005 3:17 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:17
31. Posted by KTSnip | August 5, 2005 3:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I don't know how to use the internet... so can you list some lies for us? We would all like to be informed.
31. Posted by KTSnip | August 5, 2005 3:18 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:18
32. Posted by Ross loves jmaster | August 5, 2005 3:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmm, you guys talk about logical arguments, but I have yet to see one.
1) Please give me an example of Joe Wilson being caught in a lie that's on point to the issues being discussed with Niger, yellowcake, and the outing of his wife.
2) Please explain how the public knowledge that Joe Wilson was married to Valerie Plame is the same as identifying Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA agent.
Geniuses. Really.
32. Posted by Ross loves jmaster | August 5, 2005 3:18 PM |
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Posted on August 5, 2005 15:18
33. Posted by ern | August 5, 2005 3:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)