I know what the 13 year old was thinking...

I'd buy that for a dollar.

If only I knew then what I know now.

Oh, to be 13 again...

mojo,

I get what you are saying.

But, how is she different from any other child molester?

She deserves to do real time. In a very bad place where women named Bubba "teach" her a few new games.

This sends a very bad message.

I wouldn't want to be the DA in the most current case with the Catholic school teacher.

Will she get off with a special award for excellence for going above and beyond the call in "special" education?

"What the hell were you thinking?"

Exactly.

That woman could have whoever she wanted.

Think about her poor husband. He was doing such a poor job keeping her satisfied that she had to turn to inexperienced teenagers.

How come these women are never with someone like ... oh... me?

Nick,

On the other hand, I went to Catholic schools with teachers named Sister Mary Stoneface and Ms. Zitt (I kid you not).

The horror...

Jeez mesablue, that's almost as bad as Sister Mary Elephant.

kids today...i swear. they'll screw anything. including their gym coach. i weep for the future.

Lay off this luscious, delectable, piece of human flesh...I mean...er..er teacher...yeah..teacher. All she was trying to do was introduce a new course into the cirriculum... "sport f**king." After all, she was a coach.

With all due respect, do any of you have children? Do you really think it's appropriate to be making jokes about the RAPE this woman committed? Do you really believe this is just a case of a horny boy and a "hot" teacher? Can women not commit rape? Do you not believe that RAPE IS RAPE, no matter the sex of the rapist and the victim?
What if she were a man, and the 13-year-old were a GIRL? What if it were a teacher in YOUR local school - and the victim were YOUR 13-year-old DAUGHTER? Do you really think this is funny?
I have teenage daughters; this story disgusts me - how someone in a position of authority, a "role model," could take advantage of a child like this.

There's always a double standard in these cases. Bottom line: This chick is smokin hot, and a bit cuckoo.
My teachers were all dogs. If I had one like her, sure enough every boy in class would have been thinking about hitting it. Most probably would have.

Lighten up, twerp, your underwear is on too tight this morning. You had your say, and I respect that.

Here is a clue for you parents:

BOYS ARE DIFFERENT THAN GIRLS.

I was tempted to put in a joke myself, but Glen does have a point. If this were a man who took advantage of a few girls then, no matter how good looking the man might be, I expect that we would be screaming for him to be put in the stocks, then publicly castrated.

--|PW|--

People really need to understand one fundamental fact of life. Boys are different than Girls.

This girl is so hot she's on fire. I showed her picture to my buddy at work and covered up the captions and asked her who he thought she was, his answer, "Is she some sort of porn star?"

I have four children and my oldest is a girl. She's only 4 and a half but if she were 13 and her coach did this to her, i'd kill him.

But if my 3 year old boy, 1 and a half year old boy, or my newborn boy were 13 and this happened to them, well, I dunno. I'd sit down and have a long talk with them, explain the birds and the bee's and how this lady is emotionally upset and a part of me would be sort of proud of my son.

I might even brag to my friends that my 13 year old boy bagged a smokin hotty.

Of course, my wife would be pissed at me and straighten me out, but there is definately a double standard when it comes to these sorts of things.

Think of it this way, if 13 is so young for a boy, what the heck was John Adams doing going to Russia to represent the United States for at that age?

Penny, that is true but little boys do not get pregnant. (double standard)? I remember an art teacher back in 1966 who looked much like this woman. The dreams I had about her!!!!!!! I never would have turned her in for "raping" me!

Yeah, I know. If I were 13 again and had a teacher who looked like that who made herself available to me ... I don't think I would have been too opposed to it, either.

--|PW|--

Interesting that almost every man thinks this is no big deal and almost every woman does.

This woman taught that 13 year old about sex. Here's what else she taught him:

-people in authority can use younger people (and possibly others) in their care for sex.

-children are appropriate sexual partners for adults.

-having sex with a person with authority confers certain benefits.

Now ask yourself if you want this boy, ten or twenty years from now:
-coaching your daughter's soccer team.
-teaching your children or grandchildren
-mentoring your daughter at work
-marrying your daughter and adopting your granddaughters.

And what men are teaching this boy by their approval is: having sex with a kid is okay because the kid really likes it. I'm sure in ten or twenty years he'll be telling himself that as he sits in his car outside the playground, waiting for his date.

Baggi hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, like or not, we do live in a world where double standards exists and in a case like this, its highly unlikely that an attractive woman such as this would "rape" an UNWILLING 13 yr old boy with raging hormones whose friends all think the same thing about her and who is probably bursting with excitement that he was singled out amongst the others. Put the shoe on the other foot and you most likely have a man who is the classic pedophile who, even though the girl may be "willing", has some suggestive influence to put himself in a situation where she will succumb to his desires.

Bottom line: At 13, I would have nailed her too!

What if she were a man, and the 13-year-old were a GIRL?

This is exactly where it is going to lead. This and men having sex with 13 year old (and younger) boys.

Check list:

1. Damage the family structure and parental authority enough for a generation of women to have no respect for themselves and their bodies. DONE.

2. These women proceed to do unspeakable things, and since they are merely women, men (a generation of whom have also had their self-respect destroyed) do not recognize and in fact revel in the women's perversity. DONE.

3. As time goes on, the lack of stigma for the perversity culminates in its acceptance and eventual legalization. IN PROGRESS.

4. The men, to whom nature has given predatory instincts anyway, proceed to indulge in similar and even worse perversities, no longer restrained by internal morals or external law enforcement. COMING SOON.

Perhaps the problem is the word "rape," which many, including me, associate with forcing, often violently, an unwillingb victim. It is a crime of violence, not passion.

The crime this woman committed was seduction and betrayal of trust. It is disgusting for many reasons, but frankly, even as a mother of a 13 year olf boy, I cannot equate with the horror of actual rape, such as the child's being tied up and abused.

Even if the victim in these circumstances were a girl and the criminal a man, I still would not consider it "rape" in the sense I have defined. I teach junior & senior high English, and I have seen 13 year old girls who have all the sexuality of a 21 year old (and I do blame the parents for not exercising more control over their children's choice of clothes & activities that make them so precocious). Again, the real crime is that an adult in a position of trust and authority betrayed that.

Ms. Rogers has rightly lost her teacher license forever and will be identified as a sex offender forever. Regardless of the jail time served, I believe she is adequately punished.

Kevin: "What were you thinking?"

Pamela: "I can't believe this kid is 13, he's hung like a 15 year old!"

She can go under house arrest at my house.

Women just shouldn't expect men to be fair and reasonable about this case. It's anatomically impossible. Men have two drivers and one driver's seat and it ain't our brain at the steering wheel when we look at this girl's picture.

We all had a teacher in her realm on the smokiness scale in middle school, and we all drooled at the sight of her. We all would dream of....

Just damn.

The people who are taking about double standards and boys are not like girls are forgetting something. Even if the boy enjoyed it, or even wanted it, he now has a warped sense of what is and is not an appropriate relationship.

Do you really believe he can now have a non-sexual relationship with a girl his own age? My daughter is 11 and I can tell you for a fact that I would not want her going out with this boy.

Kiliman

I can see it from both sides of the spectrum:

At 13, I wouldn't have turned that down either. The woman is F.I.N.E. and it would've been bragging rights (because a 13 yr old doesn't know what love is yet, he only knows lust).

But now at almost 35 and a parent of three, I can see the other side. If this had happened to my son, I would be upset because I try to teach my kids that sex should be an exclusive thing for two people that are married and truly in love. Even if secretly inside I'm saying, "damn son. You lucky sonofabitch," I would have to do the right thing to teach him right from wrong.

Finally, if this had happened to my daughter, I would blow the man's nuts off with a shotgun, so yes...there is a double standard. At the same time, I would also have to take some of the blame for poor parenting. Kids learn right from wrong from their parents, and they ARE watching!

Another thing: this girl (and she really is just a girl) is probably the way she is because some man took advantage of her when she was 13. She may never have received attention from a man in her life that wasn't tyring to "bag" her. We should arrest all those men that treated her that way and set her free.

Hmm....

Interesting reactions here, especially the slippery slope argument used.

People! Open your eyes and mind for a moment. Do you really think this is a new phenomenon? Do you really think this has not been happening since before recorded time?

One of the major differences in now and when we were younger is, how much easier it is to spread this type of news to the ends of the earth. When we were younger, the only news you ever heard on the TV or Radio, were major headline stories. This type of small town occurence was relegated to the local newspaper or radio station and rarely made it past that boundary. So this is nothing new, just easier to hear about.

Does that make it right? No, but saying this is contributing to the decline in the morals of the nation is just speaking with blinders on.

Parental responsibility, or the lack there of, is what contributes to the decline in morals, responsibility, compassion, and respect. If more parents were held responsible for the actions of their children, along with the children, this society would benefit greatly. If more parents actually took an interest in what their children were doing, spent time with their children, spoke with their teachers, spoke with their children's friends, and spoke to their children, things would be different.

Instead, many parents treat their children with kid gloves and take a hands off approach to raising them, that is a mistake. I can't tell you how many times I have seen a child dropped off for soccer practice/band practice/whatever, and then the parent drives off leaving the responsibility for the child to the coach/teacher/someone else. What do you expect when this type of thing happens? The coach/teacher/someone is not allowed to discipline the unruly child, so this behavior is tacitly approved, "as long as I am not around, do what you like."

Is the teacher to blame for this? Yes! Did she get off lightly? Yes! Would this be the case if it were a male teacher? No! Is that wrong? Yes! The law should be blind and applied the same for both. Will that ever happen? When pigs sprout wings and fly!

What are your children doing right now? Do you really know?

Even if the boy enjoyed it, or even wanted it, he now has a warped sense of what is and is not an appropriate relationship.

Oh? You mean his folks don't have cable TV?

It just foes to show that for women the courts still have a double standard. A man charged with almost 30 dounts of rape and pleabargained down to 4 would have got 5 years, not 0.74. Is it yet time for all of us to be treated equally?

I think the reason that it is mostly women who find this so offensive is that they were never 13 year old boys. Right or wrong and regardless of who their parents are there isn't a heterosexual 13 year old male on this planet who wouldn't have jumped at the chance to have sex with this woman. Deep down every man posting here is jealous. Women have no idea what simpletons we really are.

Bon jour PE teacher.

I'd run a mile for her any day.

Yowzles.

Does the media blackout include photo spreads?

DavidB wrote:
Interesting reactions here, especially the slippery slope argument used.

Yes, because its valid, especially when it is announced.

People! Open your eyes and mind for a moment. Do you really think this is a new phenomenon? Do you really think this has not been happening since before recorded time?

You sure are smart one. Perversity has been going on a long time? Imagine that. That certainly invalidates everything I wrote.

Oh wait, no it doesn't.

It was wrong before and it is wrong now. It just seems strange to me that we're hearing a lot more about this particular perversity - fairly attractive grown women "seducing" barely pubescent boys. Why? Because it titillates males for some reason (see posts above and no doubt below,) which detracts from its heinous nature and gradually eases us as a society into acceptance of "adult-child" sexual relations.

The next thing you know, psychologists will be telling us that "adult-child" sex can be a healthy, wonderful experience for both partners. Oh wait, they already did that eight years ago.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Anything that can be classified as a slippery slope must be a fallacy, because some webpage says so. Damn historical precedent and evidence and all that other stupid stuff.

Does that make it right? No, but saying this is contributing to the decline in the morals of the nation is just speaking with blinders on.

This phenomenon is not a first cause of a first effect, it is an effect of an earlier cause, which will then be an additional cause for other effects. A cascade.

The first cause was an overall degradation of the family and parenthood, as my #1 checkpoint stated. Dysfunctiona