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The President Responds To Sheehan

Here's the President answering a question about Cindy Sheehan:

Q: Mr. President, we know you met with Cindy Sheehan a year ago, but she says a lot has changed since then; she has more to say to you. And even some Republicans have said that you should meet with her. Why not do that when you get back to the ranch? THE PRESIDENT: Well, I did meet with Cindy Sheehan. I strongly support her right to protest. There's a lot of people protesting, and there's a lot of points of view about the Iraq war. As you know, in Crawford last weekend there were people from both sides of the issue, or from all sides of the issue there to express their opinions.

I sent Deputy Chief of Staff Hagin and National Security Advisor Hadley to meet with Ms. Sheehan early on. She expressed her opinion. I disagree with it. I think immediate withdrawal from Iraq would be a mistake. I think those who advocate immediate withdrawal from not only Iraq but the Middle East would be -- are advocating a policy that would weaken the United States. So I appreciate her right to protest. I understand her anguish. I met with a lot of families. She doesn't represent the view of a lot of the families I have met with. And I'll continue to meet with families.

Cindy Sheehan has now met with the President, the President's National Security Advisor and a Deputy Chief of Staff. In addition to that, the President has taken (on more than one occassion) the time to respond directly to Cindy's calls for the withdrawal of troops. He has handled this situation respectfully and forthrightly, which is more than you can say for Sheehan or her supporters.

Now bearing all that in mind, what more can we reasonably expect from the President with regard to Cindy Sheehan? It seems to me that the President has gone above and beyond what is required of him as our nation's leader with regard to this situation.

On a related note, does anybody ever wonder if things would be different with Sheehan were her views not anti-war? What if she were camped outside of Crawford demanding that the President send more troops into Iraq to wipe out the terrorist scum who killed her son? Would she be the subject of endless media attention then?

I don't think so.

By Rob Port of Say Anything.


Comments (26)

What more could he do?... (Below threshold)
Just John:

What more could he do?

He could explain how a "direct threat" to the US morphed into a "noble cause".

'He could explain how a "di... (Below threshold)
Toby928:

'He could explain how a "direct threat" to the US morphed into a "noble cause".'

Seems self-explanatory to me.

Tob

It never was otherwise.... (Below threshold)
mcg:

It never was otherwise.

Hey Mr. John, Bush has said... (Below threshold)
joe:

Hey Mr. John, Bush has said repeatedly it was NOT an imminent threat. When it is, it's too late.

How did it morph? ... (Below threshold)
Lurking Observer:

How did it morph?

The same way that a fight to preserve the Union became a fight to free a people.

Or how a fight to avenge an attack on a US base became a fight to preserve the "Four Freedoms."

It might even relate to how a war fought w/o UN authorization that would absolutely last no more than a year continues on in a Muslim part of Europe, six years later.

So if I pitch a hissy fit o... (Below threshold)

So if I pitch a hissy fit outside GWB's ranch and howl for a chance to meet him, does that mean the media and politicians everywhere will pressure him to meet with me?

No? Rats!

Isn't this woman's 15 minut... (Below threshold)
Ed:

Isn't this woman's 15 minutes up yet? One thing you won't see the media cover is her Jew-hating remarks at San Francisco State U.

Great post. I wonder how ma... (Below threshold)
Peege:

Great post. I wonder how many people have had the privilege to meet with the leader of the most powerful country on earth? Maybe a few thousand? She's had more time with the President than most of us, and at the time she met with him, she was duly impressed.

Now she's demanding another meeting, even after meeting with two high-level Cabinet officials? Sorry, but she's had her chance. And her 15 minutes.

Wouldn't it be great if Bus... (Below threshold)
moseby:

Wouldn't it be great if Bush had the bawls to spread fresh wet manure right up close to the gate/fence where her and the rest of the turds are protesting?

He could explain how a "... (Below threshold)
kbiel:

He could explain how a "direct threat" to the US morphed into a "noble cause".

Yeah! Speak truth to power dude! Because we all know that protecting the U.S. from outside threats is so ignoble!

Now if you and Kos could only convince people like Joe Lieberman and the DLC of that then you could solidify the real majority in the U.S. and take back the election the W. stole from you.

</sarcasm>

August 23, 2005<br... (Below threshold)
Laura Hornstra:

August 23, 2005


I am the proud mother of two Army Soldier sons. Both of my sons joined the Army shortly after our country went under attack on September 11th 2001. My oldest son served a tour in Iraq in 2003 and my second son is currently serving our country in Afghanistan . I am afraid everyday that my sons are gone that they may not come home alive. When my sons told me that they wanted to join the Army I was a bit apprehensive to say the least. But both of my boys assured me that this is what they wanted to do, to serve our country especially now. With tears in my eyes, I proudly let them go all of us knowing what could happen.

I watch the news constantly, and I pray for the soldiers we lost as well as their families. Both of my boys have lost buddies in this war but they are proud of them knowing that they all wanted to serve in our military and believe that they are doing what is right for all of us.

I find it extremely disturbing and I am disgusted when I hear and read about Cindy Sheehan and her protest against our president. Cindy Sheehan does NOT speak for me, my sons nor the rest of my family and friends. I am sorry that Cindy Sheehan lost her son. In my opinion what Ms. Sheehan is doing along with Michael Moore is a threat to the security of our country. When Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore speak out and trash our president please know that they do not speak for anyone but themselves and the few of their celebrity followers who do not have sons or daughters serving our country!

I believe that all of our military soldiers are hero’s and I support them, our country and President Bush.


What more can Bush do? He ... (Below threshold)
Eddy Johnson:

What more can Bush do? He can encourage his Party Animal daughters & crackhead niece (daughter of Jeb) to sign up immediately to fight for the cause he deems so noble - The War on Error! The Sheehan family paid the ultimate price, why can't his?

Further, he could exercise his brain moreso than his body, and not take 5 week vacations in such dire times. The man seems clueless and apparently has no exit strategy and keeps lying about the progress. Once a liar, always a liar. He needs to take notes from Clinton - at least he had the sense to lie about SEX & not life or death issues!

All you Bush lovin' Kool-Aid gulpers are in serious DENIAL!

Nice, Eddy.Repeati... (Below threshold)
JB:

Nice, Eddy.

Repeating every Air America talking point is surely "exercising" one's brain.

Thank you Ms Hornstr... (Below threshold)
B Moe:


Thank you Ms Hornstra for the courage and sacrifice of you and your family.

Eddy, could you please explain to poor old dumbass me how the foreign policy of this country should be determined by the character of our leaders children? I thought we did it by tossin' dem chicken bones!

And what part of "we will leave when the Iraqi people are capable of protecting themselves" is too difficult for you to understand?

Anyway, good luck taking on the DLC, any idea when the tickets go on sale?

Moe, part of the 3 Stooges,... (Below threshold)
Eddy Johnson:

Moe, part of the 3 Stooges, huh? I realize that your cognitive abilities have been affected by too many pratfalls, but try to think for a change, will ya. The War on Error can no longer be justified, which many are finally beginning to realize - 54% now believe it was a mistake. Ol' Bush should've listed to the voiceo of reason - Colin Powell instead of his neocon cheerleaders.

The Repulsivecan talking points are redundant and no longer resonate though Rush, Sean Hannity and Bill O'reilly are still pushing the lies. Death under GWB or Saddam, tough options. GWB has some serious blood on his hands for thinking that he could democratize a region that has been unstable for generations. Since you're so concerned about its stability, perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is unless like Cheney you have other priorities or like Rush have a pimple on your hiney.

Is your Kool-Aid laced with crack or Rush's drug of choice, Oxy, because you are stark raving loons! Is you mentor Pat Robertson, now that the terrrorist right there!

Hey, it's my turn to fee... (Below threshold)
kbiel:

Hey, it's my turn to feed the troll.

Uh, Eddy, childish insults and fevered rantings are not very convincing devices to use when trying to persuade. Try using facts, logic and reason. I know it's difficult and requires you to think, but you will be a better person for it.

Please convey to your sons ... (Below threshold)
AnonymousDrivel:

Please convey to your sons our greatest appreciation and gratitude for their diligent and honorable service. Sincerest thank you, your family, and all!

ADriveler

Kbiel, please provide your ... (Below threshold)
Eddy J.:

Kbiel, please provide your advice to the Bill O'reillys, Rush Limbaughs, Sean Hannities and the Pat Robertsons who insult anyone who dares criticizes Bush. You're boy, Karl Rove, is the king of slime, and you want to tell lil' ol' me how I can be a better person. Please!

What would you rather I say?..."the war is going well", "in its last throes", "greeted as liberators". Perhaps I should say WMD has been found, hooo-ray! Sorry but that dog won't hunt! I'm not a Fox News troll, a dittohead and I don't need to be "hanitized", I can think for myself. If you want to continue to live in denial, knock yourself out but I have a brain and refuse to be Rovenated!

Thanks for the advice but I'd rather stay with the Sheehan camp, the voices of reason. Instead of telling me what I should do, may I suggest that tomorrow you march yourself to the nearest recruiting station and sign up for Fallujah. I'm sure they have a nice little assignment for you, if you're man or woman enough to handle it. I hear they even take the Log Cabin Repubs now, they're so desperate. Just remember, not to tell even if they ask. Good Luck!

Hey Eddy,Should I ... (Below threshold)
JB:

Hey Eddy,

Should I "think for myself" or listen to the alleged (here's a novel idea: push polls are inaccurate) 54%?

Your grasp of basic logic isn't particularly impressive.

Eddy J & JDC,Durin... (Below threshold)
Martin Knight:

Eddy J & JDC,

During the Civil War, there were people who believed that their side (i.e. their country, state, region, etc.) was the wrong side in the war. There were Northerners who believed the South was in the right and Southerners who believed the North was in the right. This held true for World Wars I & II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War and now the War in Iraq (let's not forget the Cold War).

A substantial number of people who felt this way, signed up for the other side. There were Southerners who fought with the North (and vice versa), Germans who fought with the Allies (and vice versa), and an assortment of people who gave support to the other side in a myriad of other ways; Alger Hiss, William Joyce, Julius & Ethel Rosenberg, Kim Philby, Jane Fonda, etc.

They all did what they did because they believed that their nation stood on the wrong side and they believed that by standing with the other side, they would help bring their nations to the right side ... just like you and Cindy Sheehan. You are simply being patriotic, just like Jane Fonda was when she went to lend her support for the Vietcong in Hanoi.

Since, you two, like Cindy Sheehan and Jane Fonda, believe strongly that America is in the wrong here in Iraq, that the US Army and Marine Corps is raping, murdering and contaminating it's way through the pristine beauty of Iraq, I believe that you can best prove your dedication to your beliefs by enlisting with the "Iraqi Resistance" to bring America back to the right side.

Have the courage of Jane Fonda and go take a picture with and offer your apologies on behalf of America to Al-Zarqawi - the leader of the "Iraqi Resistance", even though he's Jordanian.

If not, why not go for paramilitary training and go rescue Saddam Hussein, the rightful ruler of Iraq unjustly removed from power by this totally unjust war. He is probably currently being tortured; one can take Christina Aguilera and unappetizing food for only so long after all.

If not that, if you truly believe what you say you believe about Bush, why don't you follow in John Wilkes Booth's footsteps?

Or are you all cowards?

Eddy, if you see a b... (Below threshold)
B Moe:


Eddy, if you see a burglar prowling your neighborhood, do you call the police and ask them to risk their lives for you, or do you put your money where you mouth is and take him on yourself?

If you see a building on fire, do you call the fire department and ask them to risk their lives for you, or do you put your mondy where your mouth is and try to put it out yourself?

These aren't ignorant children over there, they are professional men, trained to do a job and doing it very well. Sure some of them are pissed, they just wanted to go party on weekends in the Guard and make some easy money, but most of them are proud to be there.

You have yet to respond to anything here with other than insults, slanders and mindless rhetoric. The war in Iraq is over, has been for awhile now, Saddam and is army is gone. We now have a reconstruction.

The problem with reconstruction is they are never easy, which is why Democrats are so alienated by the process.

And I don't listen to O'Reilly, Hannity or Fox News, nor am I a Republican. So you are going to actually have to address the issues to rebut me, attacking the stereotypical right wing machine means nothing.


Martin- very well said.... (Below threshold)
LJD:

Martin- very well said.

Eddy says "I'd rather stay with the Sheehan camp, the voices of reason" STILL LOL

Eddy exemplifies the typical Sheehan-esque anti-war argument:

Personal attacks...
Name-calling...
If you support the war, go enlist...
Forthing-at-the-mouth...
More name-calling...
Blah... Blah... Blah...
Oh yeah, Viet Nam comparisons.

Get some new (or relevant) material!


Eddy is just mad because he... (Below threshold)
moseby:

Eddy is just mad because he is the illegitimate son of Jimmy Carter...yeah his Mom was a real goer....

Eddy is just mad because... (Below threshold)
kbiel:

Eddy is just mad because he is the illegitimate son of Jimmy Carter

I guess his mother worked for peanuts.

Scott Ott of Scrappleface r... (Below threshold)
AnonymousDrivel:

Scott Ott of Scrappleface records what President Bush should have said.

Rob, I don't know if great ... (Below threshold)

Rob, I don't know if great minds run alike, (or if I inspired a train of thought) but minutes before this post, I made a comment where I asked a similar question about whether Sheehan would enjoy her newfound celebrity status with a different view. The absolute silence on the question both in that comment and this post is truly golden.

My point is if you won't take every grieving mother's opinion as seriously as "Cindy's", then you need to drop the meme altogether. Quit pretending to care about her beyond her agenda.

B Moe--bravo on your nod to the difficulties of reconstruction. Any student of history knows (or rather should know) that the postwar reconstruction effort here in the U.S. after the War Between the States was an incredibly prolonged event, and not something that happened entirely in a peaceful manner.




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