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Taunting Of Injured Soldiers Update

Yesterday I posted a Drudge story about soldiers being taunted by protesters at the Walter Reed Memorial Hospital. Today CNS News has a story about the situation and a video report (at the same link, though its loading slowly right now).

Washington (CNSNews.com) - The Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., the current home of hundreds of wounded veterans from the war in Iraq, has been the target of weekly anti-war demonstrations since March. The protesters hold signs that read "Maimed for Lies" and "Enlist here and die for Halliburton."

The anti-war demonstrators, who obtain their protest permits from the Washington, D.C., police department, position themselves directly in front of the main entrance to the Army Medical Center, which is located in northwest D.C., about five miles from the White House.

Among the props used by the protesters are mock caskets, lined up on the sidewalk to represent the death toll in Iraq.

Code Pink Women for Peace, one of the groups backing anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan's vigil outside President Bush's ranch in Crawford Texas, organizes the protests at Walter Reed as well.

Code Pink, you'll remember, is also one of the anti-war group who supported the world tribunal that legitimized and justified the tactics being used by terrorists in Iraq (along with castigating the international community for the sanctions it put on Saddam Hussein's regime following Gulf War I).

The article continues.

Kevin Pannell, who was recently treated at Walter Reed and had both legs amputated after an ambush grenade attack near Baghdad in 2004, considers the presence of the anti-war protesters in front of the hospital "distasteful."

When he was a patient at the hospital, Pannell said he initially tried to ignore the anti-war activists camped out in front of Walter Reed, until witnessing something that enraged him.

"We went by there one day and I drove by and [the anti-war protesters] had a bunch of flag-draped coffins laid out on the sidewalk. That, I thought, was probably the most distasteful thing I had ever seen. Ever," Pannell, a member of the Army's First Cavalry Division, told Cybercast News Service.

"You know that 95 percent of the guys in the hospital bed lost guys whenever they got hurt and survivors' guilt is the worst thing you can deal with," Pannell said, adding that other veterans recovering from wounds at Walter Reed share his resentment for the anti-war protesters.

"We don't like them and we don't like the fact that they can hang their signs and stuff on the fence at Walter Reed," he said. "[The wounded veterans] are there to recuperate. Once they get out in the real world, then they can start seeing that stuff (anti-war protests). I mean Walter Reed is a sheltered environment and it needs to stay that way."

Mr. Pannell nails it. Protesting the war is one thing, but why do they have to lambast the wounded soldiers and their families? Is there no level too low for these anti-war protesters to sink to in their on-going crusade to demoralize America and its troops?

By Rob Port of Say Anyhing.


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Comments (41)

Sick, twisted, pathetic, na... (Below threshold)
sabrina:

Sick, twisted, pathetic, narcissistic, oxygen-wasting a**holes.

I don't have a problem with protesters (I love free speech, even when I wholly disagree with the speaker), but this is the most vile thing I have heard in a long time.

Hmmmm.Liberals thi... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmmm.

Liberals think Conservatives are evil.
Conservatives think Liberals are crazy.

Ditto what Sabrina said. Ho... (Below threshold)

Ditto what Sabrina said. How cold hearted can you get?

Any liberal that comes out and claims they "support" the troops and then participates in this kind of putrescence has no conscious.


Liberals talk/protest...Con... (Below threshold)
Craig:

Liberals talk/protest...Conservatives Do by serving our country and have to deal with the Liberals. Rare to meet many liberals in the military.

Thanks for the link to Marc... (Below threshold)

Thanks for the link to Marc Morano's report. We are re-encoding the video at this time so that it will download more quickly and it will be reposted as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience!

Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com

Please don't paint with suc... (Below threshold)
KenD:

Please don't paint with such a wide brush.
There are many liberals and conservatives
serving in the military ranks and the ranks
of those protesting this particular war.
Patriotism is not exclusive to the right,
then sadly, neither is crass bad taste.
Protesting soldiers at all is reprehensible,
they have no choice in their deployment and
certainly deserve nothing but respect when
wounded doing their duty. Keep the protests
where they belong, doggin Dubya for his
poorly administered personal war.

Ken D ~ St Louis

I don't think this thread c... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

I don't think this thread could've started out any better than how sabrina started it.

It's so remarkably important that this story hit the MSM in some way shape or form.

There was a reporter on from CNSNews.com (sorry, the name is escaping me) on 570 KVI here in Seattle this morning discussing what was going on at Walter Reed (so thank you, Jeff Johnson); KTTH in was also covering it. Not a peep on liberal stations (no surprise there obviously).

Between this and Cindy Shenanigans, the anti-war movement is losing bushels and bushels of credibility.

Ken D.:The brush m... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Ken D.:

The brush may be wide, but it's damn accurate. And stop excusing the actions of the nutballs on the fringe of the Democratic Party; they're the reason your party is swiftly losing any and all credibility with the American people.

I also love the back-pedaling, middle-of-the-road stance liberals take whenever the moonbats do something impossibly stupid and knowingly tasteless like they're doing at Walter Reed. Give all of us a break with that garbage. You won't see too many folks defending Pat Robertson's idiotic remarks around here (other than his right to speak his idiotic mind). Be a human being, take a side, do what's right, and condemn this crap.

PeterDid you even ... (Below threshold)
Ken:

Peter

Did you even read what I wrote?
"Crass" and "Reprehensible" are not
terms of an apologetic. I am not
even a Democrat, where did that come
from? Having a contrary opinion
doesn't put me in any category except
free thinking American. Isn't that the
whole point? Proclaiming "freedom"
while condemning those who exercise it
is mutually exclusive. Right?

Ken D

I heard that that the local... (Below threshold)
moseby:

I heard that that the local authorities have also issued permits to allow 43 chimpanzees to stand across from the protestors and throw their loose feces at them. Can't wait to see that on the news....

Just pointing out an open l... (Below threshold)
Dan:

Just pointing out an open letter to the organizers of the protest, Code Pink Women for Peace...the same folks who back Sheehan in Crawford.

Link to post: http://www.rapidpolitics.com/blog/

Ken D."Keep the pr... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Ken D.

"Keep the protests
where they belong, doggin Dubya for his
poorly administered personal war."

Now if that isn't the sound of moonbat wings I'll gladly eat crow. How-diddly-do-ever, you're at once admonishing the Code Pinkos while simultaneously encouraging protestors to dog the President for his "personal war" which is nothing short of liberal rhetoric. Moreover, if you do not "get" how protestors undermine our troops overseas, particularly how our enemy uses the media here in America (noted at Wizbang here recently) to dampen our morale and resolve here at home in the war, than you wouldn't be so quick to keep encouraging protestors to "keep doggin' Dubya".

Knowing the consquences of their actions, not too many Liberatarians or "free-thinking" people I know would stoop to such a level.

Maybe someone should organi... (Below threshold)
RJM 319:

Maybe someone should organize a big enough counter-demonstration so these disgusting moonbat actions are exposed on the MSM...although it wouldn't be surprising if the MSM "pulled an Air Ameriscam" and essentially ignored the story.

You think liberals trying t... (Below threshold)

You think liberals trying to stop a war is offensive? I guess you haven't seen the conservative protest yet.

This is what I want to know... (Below threshold)
Stacy:

This is what I want to know -- how can no one report on this? I know there's a bias in the media and agenda pushing but this is ridiculous. Regardless of your position on the war, we can not let this continue. Protest somewhere else, anywhere else. Those men and women are my family, and I refuse to let them be judged and used this way.

Unfortunately, I have a full time job and contribute to the GNP and can't get away to protest. But this story needs to be told because I can't believe that the majority of Americans think this is right.

Afghanistan was a necessary... (Below threshold)
Ken:

Afghanistan was a necessary and
righteous war, as much as any can
be. Going there was absolutely
necessary and I along with most of
the world supported it 100%. Iraq
was not, despite how many times the
administration tries to connect the
two, I'm sure you may disagree but
that isn't the point here.

If all Americans can't be free to
voice their opinions on
policies that effect all their futures,
then what is the point of having the
"freedom" to do so? You claim to support
the right to opinion, but condemn those
that you disagree with. My respect for
your opinion remains intact, despite
the fact I disagree. My respect in the
Reed protesters rights remain intact too,
regardless of my personal disdain for
what they are doing. You seem to be
advocating the curtailment of speech
you oppose, I am advocating even that
which I abhor.

Which is the true American value?

As a multi-generation milit... (Below threshold)
Duane:

As a multi-generation military veteran, I have experienced how the media can create a detrimental effect on the troops.

The enemy is clever and will take every edge they can get. Psychological advantages does more to change the outcome of a battle than tactical advantages ever can.

The Soviets had tremendous advantage when they invaded Afghanistan, and never were able to dominate.

Why give Al Queda and the other terrorists hope, faith, and moral support if your intention is other than to see America and the Allies fail?

That's what the Crazy in Crawford and the Left have been doing for a long time.

Maybe they'd be easier on President Bush if he were having an affair with an intern and convicted of lying to a federal judge.

Had the people in authority... (Below threshold)
Billy Bob:

Had the people in authority at Walter Reed Hospital considered the presence of protestors to be a distration or problem soldiers there, the protestors would not be allowed to be there. If some overly zealous protestors go to places or post signs at Walter REed where they are not allowed they should be arrested and charged for breaking the law. Those protestors who are abiding by the rules at Walter Reed should be allowed to protest as long as they follow Walter Reed's rules. Freedom of Speech is a First Ammendment right but most be done peacfully and within the law. If someone opposes the war Walter Reed does not seem to be a good place to protest since those who support the war would use this as an example of the extreme lengths protestors go to to forward their point of view. However, one should not make support of the war a litmus test for patriotism. Many patriots oppose the war and many support it. All of us agree that the troops should come home from Iraq as soon as the job there is finished. Whether the job is done or not is the quesion. Does the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq make the situation better or worse?

These people are protesting... (Below threshold)
BLUESHARPER:

These people are protesting the war due to the Main Stream Media. That's who I blame. These people that are protesting the war mean well I'm sure. Let's castrate the MSM. I believe that most people, when feed the truth will make the right choices, but how can they when they're being fed BS.

"Protesting the war is o... (Below threshold)
Chris:

"Protesting the war is one thing, but why do they have to lambast the wounded soldiers and their families?"

Anti-war activists feel the need to assimilate our wounded soldiers as poster-children for their cause. It provides a sense of validation for their movement. Truly disturbing, but Oliver Stone would be proud...

Ken,In the most si... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Ken,

In the most simplistic of terms, there are limits to free speech. The classic example: You can't yell "fire!" in a crowded movie theater. Why? Because you're in danger of starting a unnecessary riot to the exit doors where people could get trampled and killed. So is that curtailing your free speech rights? No, it's about the safety of others, and that takes precedence over your free speech rights.

So, fine, let the Code Pinkos say what they want. You think that it doesn't cause harm outside of the US, you're dead wrong as I pointed out. But it doesn't mean we don't get to condemn and call it for what it is: a warped, vile and disgusting display of inhumanity and tastlessness. Ultimately, it's tantamount to yelling "fire" in that crowded theater and equally as hurtful and harful to the recovery of those brave and courageous soldiers in the hospital. To hide behind the "free speech" mantra in this instance, is just pure cowardice.

I don't have the right to go punch them in their mouths, nor do I condone such behavior, but given half the chance I might just change my stance on that for 5 or 10 minutes.

Is fighting for freedom els... (Below threshold)
Ken:

Is fighting for freedom elsewhere
worth the curtailment of our own
freedoms at home? You may see the
Sheehan (sp?) protest as crazy, but
she did lose a son to the war. If
that doesn't give her a right to
express her views, then what does?

Denying freedom for some is the denial
of freedom for all. It's that simple.
If that isn't an ideal worth fighting
for, then all the rest is moot.


I'll leave the drunk-driving,coke-head
exploits of the President out of it,
cause it has no bearing on my point. ;)

PeterPlease don't ... (Below threshold)
Ken:

Peter

Please don't put words in my mouth.
I never expressed any opinion as to
the effects of the protests, that
is an assumption you are making.
I guess because I have the audacity
to express an opinion contrary to yours.
Welcome to America Pete,
you must be new. :)

Ah, the familiar and massiv... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Ah, the familiar and massively overused and unproven "curtailing our freedoms at home" meme. Please, just one example of how your rights are being curtailed here at home. Come on, just one little one, please? Humor us.

Who said Cindy Shenanigans does have right to protest or denying her rights to protest? Not a soul. Just because she's lost her son doesn't mean she can't be critisized for her views. What is she? A sacred cow who is so above reproach that she can't be questioned or critisized? Now who's curtailing who's rights there? Come on, be serious.

Hell, you barely heard a peep over Airbag America's "skit" that calls for assassinating the President; yet the people get all in a tizzy and a lather over idiotic Pat Robertson's comments and immediately call for him to "shut up" and maintain a "penitential silence" . And that's not curtailing free speech? Again, be serious.

Pat, Cindy and Code Pinkos are all idiots who can say what they want, but they should be absolutely aware of the consequences and prices they must pay when they open their mouths.

Ken,How exactly di... (Below threshold)
Peter F.f:

Ken,

How exactly did I put words in your mouth?

And what? Because I think you're argument is as weak-kneed as an 80-year old man I don't get to call you out on it? You can disagree with me all you want. Just expect the same in return.

P.S. There isn't a soul on earth who doesn't have a slightly checkered past. At least the President rectified his problems with substance abuse. Most people might find that admirable or even honorable; others perfer to resort to juvenile name-calling that better belongs in the 4th grade.

Nice Try, Drudge. But this ... (Below threshold)
Ebonius:

Nice Try, Drudge. But this dog won't hunt. These protests you want to smear the left with never happened. It's a total lie.

Ebonius:OK, prove ... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Ebonius:

OK, prove it.

RE: Ebonius' misplaced blam... (Below threshold)
AnonymousDrivel:

RE: Ebonius' misplaced blame (August 25, 2005 03:39 PM)

Nice Try, Drudge. But this dog won't hunt. These protests you want to smear the left with never happened. It's a total lie.

Say what you will about the story but it isn't Drudge's. You're smearing the wrong guy since it's a CNSNews story.


From the report:
Anti-War Protests Target Wounded at Army Hospital
Marc Morano - CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
August 25, 2005

See Marc Morano's Video Report

Washington (CNSNews.com) - The Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., the current home of hundreds of wounded veterans from the war in Iraq, has been the target of weekly anti-war demonstrations since March. The protesters hold signs that read "Maimed for Lies" and "Enlist here and die for Halliburton."

The anti-war demonstrators, who obtain their protest permits from the Washington, D.C., police department, position themselves directly in front of the main entrance to the Army Medical Center, which is located in northwest D.C., about five miles from the White House...


Seems pretty authentic to me. I'd say the dog is bringing in a carcass of some sort. At least a bone or two of the lie that it's a lie.

Peter, you just insulted 80... (Below threshold)

Peter, you just insulted 80 year old men everywhere. Take that back!

Henry:My apologies... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Henry:

My apologies to strong-kneed 80-year old men everywhere. :-)

Commenting on my own posts:... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Commenting on my own posts:

I really have to start hitting the "preview" button and proofreading my posts. Typos, words left out, you name it. My fingers can't seem to keep up with what my brain is thinking. I'm sorry, y'all. Yuck.

PeterYou named me ... (Below threshold)
Ken:

Peter

You named me a Dem, which I am not.
You called me liberal, which on most
things I am not. If supporting the
rights of others makes me a "liberal",
then I thank you for the complement.
You also said I was denying the
effects of the protests, a point to
which I never spoke in any post.

I have supported the rights of all to
speak their minds, regardless of their
views, something you seem hell bent against.
I welcome your criticism. Just try and base
it on what I actually said, not on your
assumptions of what my further views are.

If you hate the American laws of freedom
so much, maybe you need to join the
terrorists yourself? They are fighting
for the same one-sided intolerance your
statements would seem to endorse.

God Bless American...and you too Pete. ;)

If you are opposed to the w... (Below threshold)
B Moe:

If you are opposed to the war, write your congressman and senators, write the president, work for candidates who support your view in the next election, pass out pamphlets, write letters to the editor even, none of these give serious ammo to the other side.

But if you want to make a spectacle of yourself to attract the TV cameras of the world, and don't care that you are being used by alJazeera to fire up the enemy to kill more Americans, know that while you have every right to do it, we have every right to question your motives, intelligence and patriotism.

Free speech goes both ways.


Ken,"If you hate t... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Ken,

"If you hate the American laws of freedom
so much..."

And now who's putting words in who's mouth? I never, not once, ever stated I was "hell bent" against others speaking their minds. If you read my posts, you'll see that to be the fact. I'm merely exercising and practicing my rights, Ken, to call them feckless wastes of oxygen if I so choose. So how is that so different from the people whose freedom of speech rights you are so galantly defending? Well, it's not different at all.

However, I've certainly stated my position that there are certain instances where free speech, if used unwisely, is detrimental and harmful to society. It's NOT always hunky-dorey for people to speak their minds or do things without considering the consequences. I've given examples of how dangerous this can be in our thread—from the theater to the theater of war.

You keep implying that I am somehow surpressing the freedom of speech rights of the world's Cindy Sheehans. That's not the case at all. I can be intolerant and critical of what they say and do—within limits. (For instance, it would be irresponsible for me to call for anyone's death "So and so should be shot for saying that!" Whereas when I state that "So and so is wrong for X, Y and Z, and I think they should shut their mouths because they're putting the country in danger, their facts are contrived and so on" , well, that's just my educated criticism and opinion. It's neither oppressive or repressive.

"You also said I was denying the
effects of the protests, a point to
which I never spoke in any post"

No, you never spoke it, but you never denied it either. Your defense of the protestors is correct, but it's not an admirable or homorable position to take, in MY opinion. They've clearly (for me) crossed the line of yelling "fire!" in the movie theater. To denounce and belittle the soliders' service is mentally harmful and borders on hate speech. They clearly are not "fighting" against "one-sided intolerance". In fact, it has nothing to do with what their doing at the hospital.

You SEEM (to borrow a word from you that you SEEM to like to use with me) to think it's OK for someone to speak their mind EVERY time and in any situation they please. I do not. There are limits. Can you speak to that issue?

Well said, B Moe! While I ... (Below threshold)

Well said, B Moe! While I fully support every person's right to express their views, I have to question the motives and intelligence of people who express their views in such a way as to help the enemy in a time of war.

Its a shame the protestors ... (Below threshold)

Its a shame the protestors I viewed on the video either aren't eligible for or aren't availing themselves of the fine psychiatric services at Walter Reed they so obviously need.

Sad to see so many with the... (Below threshold)
LJD:

Sad to see so many with their dreadlocks in a twist over this "Free Speech".

Why can't anybody answer the questions:

If these "protestors" truly care about stopping the war, and not just gaining attention, why don't they find a more effective outlet?

Wasn't it the left that said you can be against the war and FOR the troops? So what the hell is this?

Have some respect people, please.

Ya know, KenD/Ken is a big ... (Below threshold)

Ya know, KenD/Ken is a big improvement over, say, "judgment day cometh" and some of that ilk.

Cut the feller a little slack, I sez. For now.

Seems like the troops at Wa... (Below threshold)
Ray:

Seems like the troops at Walter Reed are still facing the enemy, or at least enemy sanctioned effort. Did they get to keep their morters when they checked into Walter Reed?

I declare February 6, Natio... (Below threshold)
Red State:

I declare February 6, National Punch a Left Wing Liberal Nutjob in the face day. February 6, is Ronald Reagan's birthday. To all you leftist scumbag commies, he was the man who was the American President from 1981 -1989 and the best one there ever was, the AntiClinton if you will.

Next February 6th, find yourself a leftist goon, (he'll be the one who looks like he hasn't bathed or had a haircut in 2 years, reaking of petchoulie and body oder and wearing a t shirt that says something like "marxism rules" or "people's revolution.) One piece of advice don't go looking before noon because these characters don't awake until 1pm at the earliest as they have no jobs and rely on the government to support them.

Walk up to this putrid excuse for a human being and ask him if he know's what's so special about February 6th. When he can't answer correctly punch him in the face as hard as you can, being careful not to get any tainted hippy blood on yourself. Don't worry about him trying to hit you back because hey....when Bin Laden killed 3000 of his fellow countrymen the best he could do as far as retaliation was bitch about the rights of terrorists at Gunatanamo Bay. That's the kinda guy he is.

Before leaving this wretched piece of scum to the rest of his pathetic existence don't forget to remind him why February 6th is so special.

It's only August now so mark it down on your calendar.

Some of you people are kill... (Below threshold)
Ken:

Some of you people are killing me! :)

Once again, read what I said.
The hospital protest is in very bad form,
as I stated already. On the other hand, I
think the Crawford one is fine, if that's
what the lady wants to do.
It's one thing to vilify the soldiers that
have to fight this thing, and another the
person sending them to do so. Sadly, as
is the case in politics today, the worst
examples from both sides become the face
of the entire group.
The anger many feel towards the "unwashed
hippie", much of it deserved, is equaled
by their disdain for the masses of suburban
drones in SUV's, driving (no pun intended ;)
our reliance on the region in the first
place.

The fact remains, that regardless of
whether you agree or not, both are well
within their rights to do so. If either
protest had crossed the "yelling fire"
litmus test, don't you think they'd be
removed asap? Of course they would.

As for the "helping the enemy" arguement,
you have got to be kidding! Iraq has been
by all accounts, even the CIA's own reports,
the single greatest extremist recruiting
tool in decades. When scores of civilians,
not to mention actual fighters, are killed
every week they don't need anything else.
And don't go thinking I mean the US military
is haphazardly causing the deaths of innocents.
It's war. Shit happens, people die. And when
the bodies pile up, it doesn't matter one iota
who pulled the trigger or planted the bomb,
at the end of the day it's the gory torso on
the tube that tells the "whole" story to the masses.

Rest assured, the passion and anger you feel
towards these protestors is matched by their
disdain for your views too. You may be right,
they may be. The reality probably lies
somewhere in the middle, and if we can't get
over both "sides" bickering, nothing will ever
get done right in this country.

All politicians are scum. Right - Left,
doesn't matter. They are forced to chase
money to stay elected long enough to do
anything worth a damn. By the time that
happens, they have been so far compromised
that it doesn't even matter what "side"
they are on, it's all about the special
interests. A fundamental change needs to
occur, or we are all going to hell. And
it won't matter a damn bit who you voted
for or how much you have in the bank.

One last note: I voted for Reagan. I also
voted for Clinton, crazy huh? :)
And while I was disgusted at "Slick Willy's" lying about his blow job, it is still far outweighed by the disgust I had for Reagan's Contra dealings. I still think every one of
those guys should have gone to prison for
that one. There's a big difference in lying
to Congress over something that matters, and
something that should remain personal. Or
about something that sends our young men
into a foreign country to die. But I guess
that's just my inner-liberal coming out.

So yeah..flame away! :)

ps: Red State. Am I the only one that thinks
it's funny that, prior to the fall of the
Berlin Wall, communists were universally
referred to as "Reds"? ;)




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