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Cindy Sheehan - A Uniter, Not A Divider

The Sheehan media circus rolled into DC this weekend, and immediately she proved that she's united the Democratic Party. They're united in their desire not to be seen anywhere near Sheehan.

WASHINGTON (Knight Ridder 09/22/2005) - As the anti-war movement arrives in Washington this weekend, many top Democrats are leaving.

Nationally known Democratic war critics, including Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, and Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Russell Feingold of Wisconsin and John Kerry of Massachusetts, won't attend what sponsors say will be a big anti-war rally Saturday in Washington.

The only Democratic officeholders who plan to address the rally are Reps. Cynthia McKinney of Georgia and John Conyers of Michigan.

Conyers and McKinney hardly qualify as significant, given their status in the tin foil wing of the party. What's odd is that, aside from a little publicized meeting with Hillary Clinton (probably at Clinton's behest) the only politician talking about meeting with Sheehan is Arizona Senator John McCain. He went to great length's to explain that Sheehan was a constituent, and though he vehemently disagreed with her, he at least owed her one private meeting. He reminded the media that Bush too had already meet with Sheehan, and that she wouldn't be getting a second meeting with either.

Michelle Malkin when to the protests Saturday, digital camera in hand. It's everything you would have expected... She's posted a Flickr gallery of some of the moonbattery.


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Comments (14)

The usial bunch of nit wits... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

The usial bunch of nit wits and the dumb protest and knowing the liberal left-wing news media they,ll jack up the number of proesters they alway do

"Conyers and McKinney hardl... (Below threshold)
Ian:

"Conyers and McKinney hardly qualify as significant, given their status in the tin foil wing of the party"

Your comment has me thinking - who would the leftists say are the analogues of Conyers and McKinney on the right? They focus so much hate on the President that it's rare to see focused criticism put into anyone else. Maybe Pat Buchanan? Pat Roberts? But anyone actually elected to office?

Yesterday a went to the mod... (Below threshold)
Drew Edmondson:

Yesterday a went to the modest (1500) gathering in Denver. I spoke with many who had never been to a protest but do know that Bush & Company lied and continue to lie. Remember Colorado is registered 70% Republican/Independent. I spoke the longest to a man in his 30's holding a sign "Blessed are the peacemakers" a quote from the greatest political speech of all time Jesus's Sermon on the Mount. I found out he was a pastor of a Baptist Church, a life long consevitive Republican. He said it had been hard to admit he had been wrong in his perception of the Iraq War. He felt foolish for so blindly believing Bush. I pointed out that members of both parties had done the same. It is naive of posters who have yet to grasp that all polls show that the majority of Americans, not just the cliche names referred to here are against the war and are beginning to understand how Bush is destroying what the USA has stood for...I try to balance my views which is why I visit a spectrum of web sites...I also attempt to think for myself and try to express myself without using simple cliches. I would really like some who post here and support Bush's leadership for the Iraq War to say why, in their own words..."Blessed are the peacemakers, for they are the sons of God"

Maybe if people actually kn... (Below threshold)

Maybe if people actually knew what "Blessed are the peacemakers" means, then there wouldn't be so much confusion over the topic of war.

But that's hoping for way too much I guess.

Saddam was a brutal ... (Below threshold)
B Moe:


Saddam was a brutal tyrant, and one of the most well armed and disruptive forces in the Middle East, he needed to go. We were technically still at war with him because he had repeatedly violated the cease fire from the previous campaign. Iraq is a key position geographically in the Middle East, anyone hoping to bring peace and stability to the region needs to control this area. As ugly as the fighting with the foreign mercenaries has been in Iraq, it would have been much worse in Afghanistan.

These are the first things that popped into my head as to why I support the action, if I thought longer I could probably come up with some more. As to the way Bush has actually handled it, I don't have access to enough information to assess that. It seems to me from the reaction of the military to him they don't think he has fucked it up so bad, and they are the ones getting shot at.


McCain Bullsnot Warning!... (Below threshold)
JD:

McCain Bullsnot Warning!!

"He went to great length's to explain that Sheehan was a constituent, and though he vehemently disagreed with her, he at least owed her one private meeting."

Cindy Sheehan is a resident of Vacaville, California. Her divorce action is currently being filed in Solano County Superior Court, and Vacaville is located within Solano County.

Now if memory serves, McCain is currently serving as the Senior Senator from the Great State of Arizona.

Do I have that right?

Drew stated in his post the... (Below threshold)
JD:

Drew stated in his post the following: "I try to balance my views which is why I visit a spectrum of web sites...I also attempt to think for myself and try to express myself without using simple cliches."

Regrettably, he didn't use his own admonitions for the remainder of his post...

"I spoke with many who had never been to a protest but do know that Bush & Company lied and continue to lie."

"I found out he was a pastor of a Baptist Church, a life long consevitive Republican. He said it had been hard to admit he had been wrong in his perception of the Iraq War. He felt foolish for so blindly believing Bush."

"It is naive of posters who have yet to grasp that all polls show that the majority of Americans, not just the cliche names referred to here are against the war and are beginning to understand how Bush is destroying what the USA has stood for... "

Each one of those quotes can be lifted practically verbatim from any number of anti-Bush talking point sets - "Bush lied and continue (sic) to lie" is the one that jumped off the screen, but the others will do nicely. The "lifelong consevetive (sic) Republican" who is in his 30s but also just happens to be a pastor of a Baptist church in Colorado - The BS meter is pinning on that one, bub.

Drew, if you're going to be original, be original! No amount of heartfelt sissy words in the middle of an editorial full of BDS talking points is going to change the fact that it's an editorial full of BDS talking points. And if I want BDS talking points, I'll go to Kos or DU and take it straight, not with a milk chaser like you offer it to us here.

who would the leftists s... (Below threshold)
mantis:

who would the leftists say are the analogues of Conyers and McKinney on the right? They focus so much hate on the President that it's rare to see focused criticism put into anyone else. Maybe Pat Buchanan? Pat Roberts? But anyone actually elected to office?

Well, how about Sen. Jeff Sessions? It seems his first instinct when looking at the carnage of Hurricane Katrina was to find a way to still repeal the death/estate tax, desperately searching for multimillionares who somehow were unable to evacuate and died. He of course failed in his mission, then claimed he was doing so to combat the pro-death tax liberals in Congress who were exploiting the disaster to delay his bill, even though it was Frist who postponed the vote. Don't even get me started on the amazing video doctor, but even he had the sense not to push tax cuts right after Katrina.

How about holy warrior Tom Tancredo of Colorado who thinks the proper response to a nuclear terrorist attack would be to nuke Mecca

Of course don't forget Rick "man on dog" Santorum and his greatest hits:

"intelligent design is a legitimate scientific theory that should be taught in science classes."

However nowadays he doesn't think intelligent design should be taught in schools, at least not when he's on NPR.

"President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy." link

Now it's totally legitimate to ask that criticisms focus on elected officials, but it is pretty funny that you bring that up in a post about that darn Cindy Sheehan, who I'm pretty sure was not elected to office. I'll be happy to give you a list of lunatics that various republicans have "met with".

I'll be the first to admit that there are a lot of crazies on the left, and some of them get elected to office, but if you think the right is free of them, well I've got a couple of bridges in Alaska to sell you...(too late! You already bought them).

RE: Drew Edmondson's post (... (Below threshold)
AnonymousDrivel:

RE: Drew Edmondson's post (September 25, 2005 07:01 PM)
...I would really like some who post here and support Bush's leadership for the Iraq War to say why, in their own words..."Blessed are the peacemakers, for they are the sons of God"

Being a Western infidel oozer, I'm not sure I qualify to respond to your plea. I feel certain, however, knowing that the likes of Hussein, bin Laden, Al Zarqawi, et al would stand in line to slit my throat and any with whom I associate. I'd rather that not happen. I consider the peacemakers (at the behest of Mr. Bush) protecting my life and the lives of many, who are not like me in many ways, to be relatively divine. That is probably not the interpretation you were seeking but it is the one I'll provide. Scripture provides a nice guide for one's philosophy. Unfortunately, it leads to endless debate and (mis)interpretation and will not provide a holistic answer. I gather you'd find that unsatisfactory so I'll dispense with such rhetoric and stay fundamentally organic.

One of the underlying flaws of your quaint reference is the dependence on a belief of said philosophy by both those hearing it as well as those preaching another. I won't dwell on the receptivity of a questioning flock since I gather most are humanitarians seeking a just life. I would, conversely, emphasize that the Islamofascists would not take kindly to the type of passive temperament you seem to suggest peacemakers embrace. I won't. The nation's peacemakers won't. The President won't. It is this defiance to yield to those who would do us harm that furthers my support and I'm not swaying because it is contemporaneously less popular (though I'm not certain that it is).

Americans are in a relative comfort zone as the War on Terror eludes headlines. To the Sheehan's of the world, this is considered a reduction of support for the current mission and an opportunity upon which to capitalize. I perceive it as a break from the weariness - a normal expectation considering that this is a long slog. Nonetheless, Sheehan gathered no traction despite a media that would have preferred for her to have widened treads. The mission moves forward and successes continue despite the irresponsible dearth of coverage reporting the mundane. I have faith that a silent majority recognizes such muted success and will back the mission as the terrorists lose ground. I also suspect that we are one domestic attack away from awakening from the stupor of relative comfort. At that point Sheehan and her troupe will become even less relevant than they are today.

So, Bush's peacemakers continue to protect free people using aggressive means where appropriate. What can I say... I'm pro-Victory.

Mantis,What part of ... (Below threshold)
Donald:

Mantis,
What part of tax cuts lead to expanded revenue don't you people understand? The absolute best thing we could do for the country and the damaged people in these storms would be to cut their taxes, eliminate the dept's of Education, energy, HUD, and yes homeland security.

I marvel at the resiliency of our economy. We are doing our absolute best to destroy it with insane tax and spending policies and hate the rich moronity. Mantis, there's a book, it's called "Atlas Shrugged". It's kind of long, smallprint, and can get tedious at times, but there is no better education regarding your failure to grasp simple thought processes. If that's too much, then watch "The Fountainhead". If you can't grasp, that, then grasp, how incredible beautiful Patricia Neal was!

Jeff Sessions was thinking about a real government solution, and was addressing actual tax "fairness" at the same time. It is completely immoral that after taxing one's earnings for a complete lifetime, the govenment would go after what's left after one passes.

What part of tax cuts le... (Below threshold)

What part of tax cuts lead to expanded revenue don't you people understand?

There are people roaming around in the blogosphere without keepers who seriously believe this concept is new, and since they blame it on Republicans it must be a lie.

John F. Kennedy would be surprised to learn he was a Republican.

Hey Donald, calm down. Fir... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Hey Donald, calm down. First of all I never said tax cuts don't (or rather can't) expand revenue. My point was that Session's was so desperate to keep his prescious death tax repeal on schedule during Katrina he vowed find a rich person who had died there by having people search through all the dead poor people to find it (not literally of course). And if you think he was doing it to help the people who lost their homes and possessions in the Hurricane, he wasn't. He didn't want to cut taxes for anyone except for inheritors of over $1.5 million. And once again, he couldn't find any.

And don't try to push your condescending Randroid crap on me, cause I ain't buying it. Existence is not the only value sought by this living thing, and "every man for himself" is not the philosophy I live by. And unlike Rand, and presumably, you, I actually understand Hume & Kant. Further, I can write fiction without ridiculous, unbelievably one-dimensional characters whose existence isn't even justified to further the plot, which would be bad enough, but to further Rand's ridiculous political agenda. But, please, continue to be guided by your "What would John Galt do" bracelet. I for one think there is more to life than opportunism.

I could go on about intentionalistic fallacies, wrongs of omission, the inherent rationality of capitalism, and other problems with Rand, but I don't have the time. I have to go watch a man drown because it's not in my self-interest to save him.

Funny story (OK, only nutty... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Funny story (OK, only nutty right-wing leaning folks) about Saturday's Protest Fest '05 here in Seattle:

My wife and I were unfortunate enough to stumble upon the Anti-Everything rally on Saturday afternoon at the Westlake Shopping Center in downtown Seattle. (The crowd numbered maybe 3,000, if not a tad more.)

We were just downtown to shop and had parked the car near Westlake. Upon opening the door after we parked, I heard all this shouting. So I looked out over the railing of the parking garage and down the street, and it hit me: I had completely forgotten about the protests. I think the first words out of my mouth were "Son of a b****, I had forgotten all about this c***!" My wife said "what c***?". So I explained it to her, at which point she proceeded to tell me "don't you say anything...don't start anything...please, we don't need to get into a fight...promise me!" So I promised and yeah-yeahed that I wouldn't say anything. (Not that I would start any find of physical fight, she was more referring to a verbal fight.)

So we began walking to a store that was/is the other side of rally. We were skirting along the back edges of the rally behind the stage, and we could here the speaker say something to the effect of "We want the military out of our schools...we want the military industrial complex torn down! No recruiting in our schools!"

So I'm biting my tongue and keeping my promise as we walk around them. But what does my native New Yorker wife do? Ignores what she just warned me NOT to do and starts saying, rather loudly among so of the batties: 'Ungrateful f***ing bastards have no f***ing clue that it's our military that's preserved their right to say this c***! What an insult to the people who fought in ANY war and died...f***ing c***suckers." Yes, that's pretty much verbatim.

Naturally, I supported her but I still refrained from saying anything myself. But then it dawned on me and I said "Hey, wait a second! You just said I couldn't..." She abruptly cut me off and replied: "I know what I said. Hush...these people are a**holes..."

Ya gotta love a woman like that! No wonder I married her.

Best anti-protest sign we saw? "Shut up and shop!"

Please look into cindy shee... (Below threshold)
james e mather:

Please look into cindy sheehans statement on micheal moores website. She states that she resupplied her bus with supplies from the distribution center by New Orleans after the Katrina hurricane. I think she manipulated supplies that were for the victims. If so she needs to be prosecuted.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=503




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