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Who says "to live outside the law, you must be honest?"

Illegal aliens have had a bit of a rough time in Massachusetts of late. In New Bedford, a combined sweep by immigration officials and the Coast Guard along the waterfront netted thirteen suspected illegal aliens working in fish-processing plants, and scads more workers (alerted by cell phone) got the hell out of Dodge. And many stayed away, afraid of getting caught. One plant with 40 workers said that only six showed up the day after the raids.

And in Lowell, the local Brazilian population (admitted by their own representatives to be about 70% illegally here) is a bit concerned. The local paper, the Lowell Sun, did an in-depth profile of one family. They came here on a tourist visa, then promptly broke their promise and stayed. They broke the terms of their "tourist" visa and got jobs, even sent their kids to school and bought a house. But they live in constant fear of being caught and deported.

I know that kind of fear. It's when you know you've done something wrong, and know the consequences if it's uncovered. It's related to shame and guilt. Some might even consider it grounds to stop doing what's causing the stress.

But let's look at some of the details of their account. The father started out delivering pizzas. Now, let's count the laws he probably broke to do so:

1) Getting a job without proper authorization.

2) Driving a motor vehicle without a license.

3) Operating an unregistered motor vehicle.

4) Operating an uninsured motor vehicle.

5) Failure to report income.

And that's just off the top of my head.

They pull down about a thousand dollars a week while their kids go to school on the public dime. And their health care is free, too -- just go to the nearest clinic or emergency room.

It looks like their standard of living is better than mine, with the sole drawback that they have to stress over getting caught.

Hell, I live with that sort of stress every day. Where do I go to to renounce my citizenship and start living the good life? Lord knows citizenship is rapidly becoming more of a burden than a blessing...


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Lemme borrow one from the B... (Below threshold)

Lemme borrow one from the Blender Boy: "Heh."

My piece of Staten Island has been given over to "workcrews" for the building industry.

Of course, when the sun goes down, MS-13 (16, 18) pops up.

So I got dogs and shotguns, with the other hand on real estate listings in other locales, while "my" elected officials do jack diddly-squat about it.

Jay,I gotta say ma... (Below threshold)

Jay,

I gotta say man, as a first generation immigrant, you had me agreeing with you until your last lines:

It looks like their standard of living is better than mine, with the sole drawback that they have to stress over getting caught.

If their standard of living is better than yours, that only plays upon your work ethic, not theirs.

Where do I go to to renounce my citizenship and start living the good life?

Sometimes, cleaning up after peoples shit in a foreign country is better than putting up with socialist bullshit from your country of origin. So, in essense, even coming to the US to pick up garbage or clean toilets is the good life.

Lord knows citizenship is rapidly becoming more of a burden than a blessing...

As an American citizen by choice, I consider my citizenship not only a privilege, but an honor and a duty. But nobody gave it to me. I earned it.

That $50k per year cash inc... (Below threshold)

That $50k per year cash income is damn near equivalant to a six figure salary for a legal worker.

Now I’m depressed too…..

Jay,You could easi... (Below threshold)

Jay,

You could easily do numbers 2-5 on your list if you'd like ;)

And jmaster: odds are that income taxes are being withheld and Social Security/Medicare taxes are being withdrawn, so fret not.

One plant with 40 worker... (Below threshold)
shark:

One plant with 40 workers said that only six showed up the day after the raids.

Certainly hope they throw the plant operators in jail because something tells me they damn well knew they were employing illegals.

The State of Washington pro... (Below threshold)
trunorth:

The State of Washington provides full medical free to farm workers (including full dental). Farmers are forbidden from questioning documents, even when they are obvious fakes (State of Washington also provides free legal services to protect the rights of migrant workers). Who knows what percent are not legal?
On the other hand, I have read that our economy requires and depends on an influx of workers, and this would explain why no administration in recent memory has tried very hard to stem the flow of 'illegal' aliens.
If the USA needs the workers, and the workers are working, why not find a way to make them legal? These folks are hard working family people, as the Lowell Sun article attests.

I am happy that the Coast G... (Below threshold)
DaveD:

I am happy that the Coast Guard and Immigration officials made the effort. I like Bush but I do not want to buy into his guest worker plan until he can demonstrate an equal enthusiasm for enforcing the laws against illegal immigration. He balances the the plan for a guest worker program on one hand while balancing his promises about enforcing the laws against illegal immigration on the other. I just get the impression that the latter hand is still behind his back with his fingers crossed.

On the other hand, I hav... (Below threshold)
Sean:

On the other hand, I have read that our economy requires and depends on an influx of workers, and this would explain why no administration in recent memory has tried very hard to stem the flow of 'illegal' aliens.

Crock. Of. S%!t.

Yep. Our economy depends on migrant workers who work for almost nothing. Just like the South's agragrian economy depended on slave labor, right? Necessity is the mother of invention. Either machinery will be invented to replace low-wage migrant illegals or tools will be invented that make it possible for a lower number of workers to produce the same results.

Why don't "progressives" ever fight for real progress instead of insisting on pre-Civil War economic conditions?

Fresh apples in the superma... (Below threshold)
Trunorth:

Fresh apples in the supermarket require hand picking.
Professional pickers in the State of Washington make good money, but 'white people don't pick." Even so there is constant pressure from 'progressives' to make the Farmers pay higher wages... but all that will do is make the American farmer even less competitive and push even more of the fruit growing to places like Brazil... (how do they treat their workers?)
Or (as progressives prefer) raise the taxes on legal US workers even more to subsidize ....
Or (as anti- progressives prefer) resort to protectionism (tax the living daylights out of imported fruit!). This would drive up the cost of goods in the U.S. but that is better than higher taxes. At least I can decide for myself where to spend my hard earned (legally) money. What say?

Here's my solution to illeg... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Here's my solution to illegal immigration. Privatize enforcement. The following details are just an example.

Offer a $500 bounty to anyone who turns in an illegal alien. If they're working then their employer pays the bounty, otherwise taxpayers do. An illegal alien can even turn themselves in as well as fellow employees and then get a bounty for themselves and their coworkers. An employer would have to show that they did a proper background check to avoid the fine. There would be standards on what a proper background check requires.

The bounty program would be combined with a Bush like guest worker program for non-service type jobs. I don’t what to have guest workers doing service jobs that can’t be exported. For example, cleaning and landscaping jobs. What's an employer going to do, stop cleaning their toilets or mowing their lawns? Don't tell me you can't find American workers to clean toilets if you're paying $12 an hour. Employers will have to pay a market rate for such jobs, but as long as all employers are in the same situation, it won’t effect their competitiveness.

Mac,Are you trying... (Below threshold)
LouDawg:

Mac,

Are you trying to stop illiegal immigration or encourage it? Offering $500 to any illegal who can find his way across the border and then turn himself in would only encourage more people to come. It's like offering them a bribe to come here illegally.

LouDawg,Good point... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

LouDawg,

Good point. I should have been more clear that they need to have a job, not just get across the border. If their employer can show they did a proper background check then taxpayers pay the bounty, otherwise the employer does. This would dry up jobs for illegal aliens in a flash, so there would be far fewer crossing the border.

Hmmm.1. I absolute... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

1. I absolutely and unconditionally oppose any guest worker program whatsoever.

There is, to my knowledge, not one single example of a guest worker program that has ever really worked out and has not caused problems later on. Look at France. Their current problems are entirely derived from their guest worker programs of the 1950s. Look at Germany. They're starting to have the same problems as France with their guest worker program.

The formation of a large social sub-class is not in the interest of a nation where the driving meme is equality for all.


2. I absolutely oppose illegal immigration.

If someone is an illegal immigrant, then I want that person deported and, if they're caught again, jailed. And I do not trust Bush or the Republican party to do anything substantial on this issue.


3. I support increasing the allowed limits on legal immigration by a large margin.

Many problems with illegal immigration exist because the difficulties in legal immigration.


4. I support streamlining and simplifying the legal immigration process.

A coworker of mine immigrated from Canada to America. It took 3+ years of incredible hassles and about $12,000 USD to accomplish the task. Most of it was spent getting jerked around.

If you can imagine a department that makes your local motor vehicle licensing department look like the hardest working and most efficient bastards on the planet, then you know how bad it is. One funny aspect is that a permit they give you for staying in the country expires before your scheduled review of that same permit.

That's how crappy the system is.

...

What bothers me a great deal is the ghettoization of America that's going on. Having small enclaves where people don't assimilate is not a good thing. Having cities where people don't assimilate is a very bad thing. Having states where people don't assimilate is not far off.

Europe is having trouble with muslims. I frankly think we're going to have trouble with latinos. There are already political groups that have cropped up specifically to "retake" California, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, etc etc etc and bring them "back" to Mexico.

Either the illegal immigration ends soon, or we're going to be fighting Civil War II. And if that happens I'm heading down to Washington with a couple hundred feet of rope.

There's some serious hanging to do in Congress then.

Ed, you have a head.... (Below threshold)
trunorth:

Ed, you have a head.
I have watched this first hand in central washington State where 30% of the resident population is non english speaking [i.e., hispanic]... and the cultural divide is huge.
Let people be full citizens, give people full access. Latino voters will change the country for sure... but that is the America way...golly am I a liberal or am I a redneck?


And.....here in NY Hillary ... (Below threshold)
Maggie:

And.....here in NY Hillary wants us to let them get student loans for COLLEGE?

Give me a breatk.

Fresh apples in the supe... (Below threshold)
Sean:

Fresh apples in the supermarket require hand picking.

Only because someone hasn't felt the need to figure out how to do it mechanically. The same tired old meme was used with cotton and sugar cane. Once the cheap labor pool dries up apple growers will get on board with technology to keep apple harvesting cheap and easy, and thereby follow in the footsteps of every other grower of produce that, at one time, had to be harvested by hand.

And here we see the beginni... (Below threshold)
Sean:

And here we see the beginning of the end for the illegal immigrant apple picker:

From the Agricultural Research Service

"ARS scientists have developed a mechanical harvester designed to harvest tree fruits for fresh market use, with minimal or no fruit damage. ... The harvester works well with apple and cherry trees, and may have potential for pears. Approximately $60,000 and $50,000 a year are required to harvest fresh market quality apples and sweet cherries, respectfully. This invention could save 25-50 percent in harvest costs for these industries. ... Apple and cherry growers will benefit from commercialization of this product by increasing worker productivity and lower harvest costs. Companies engaged in agricultural equipment manufacturing and design could use this technology."

American ingenuity. Putting the lie to the "our economy depends on cheap illegal labor" meme.

Ed:The formatio... (Below threshold)
ryan:

Ed:

The formation of a large social sub-class is not in the interest of a nation where the driving meme is equality for all.

Great point there.

I agree with you about the whole guest worker program idea. The old Bracero program was full of abuse and corruption, namely because people who were here working had few rights, and no way to protect themselves. It was a pretty abusive ordeal overall; they were just shipped in to work, treated like hell, and then shipped out.

I am against illegal immigration as well. It's definitely something that needs immediate attention. The current pentalities for getting caught arent enough to deter illegal immigration, and as you point out, the means to legal immigration is a disaster. No wonder people skip the whole ordeal.

Many problems with illegal immigration exist because the difficulties in legal immigration.

Agreed.

Having small enclaves where people don't assimilate is not a good thing...

Here I dont agree with you. I dont really see a problem with an enclave of people that share a similar culture, and I certainly am not a proponent of assimilation. People have the freedom of choice here in the states, and are free to speak whatever language, and participate in whatever cultural tradition they want.

We tried to force Native Americans to assimilate, and many of them were culturally decimated, which I think was complete bullshit. The ones who resisted assimiliation are the ones whose cultures have survived to this day. Think about it. I dont think we need to force everyone to conform to the same cultural ideal so that we can all get along.

I dont see a problem with a United States that is comprised of varying cultures. Why make everyone conform to some 17th century Anglo-Protestant ideal? It's not the reality of our country today; we are diverse, and have been.

I dont care if cities dont assimilate. I dont care if all of SF turns into Chinatown. They would still be a part of this country, get to vote, and decide how they want to live life. I wouldnt care if all of New Mexico decided to make Navajo the state language. Thats their choice, and I'm sure that we could all learn to deal with it.

I'm not into forcing people who supposedly live in a free society to conform to certain cultural ideals. If people get together and gain politcal power, they can make changes...those changes are up to them and a part of the democratic process. Thats the way it works. In California, expect to see some changes with the rise of the Latino vote. Thats democracy people.

There are, of course, rational limits to complete freedom, as dictated by morals and ethics. But I dont see the need to get all freaked out when people want to speak Spanish, etc.

I frankly think we're going to have trouble with latinos. There are already political groups that have cropped up specifically to "retake" California, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, etc etc etc and bring them "back" to Mexico.

I wouldnt judge all Latinos based on what some political fringes are doing; I think thats going a little overboard Ed. None of the Latinos I know, and I know alot, have ever talked about "retaking" California. Calm down, amigo.

sean:ARS scient... (Below threshold)
ryan:

sean:

ARS scientists have developed a mechanical harvester designed to harvest tree fruits for fresh market use, with minimal or no fruit damage...

I'm sure the price of apples will dramatically drop with the use of such a cost efficient labor saving device. We consumers will definitely benefit from such a technological advancement, I'm sure.

On a more sincere note, I wonder about issues like this. So we have people that need jobs, and we keep inventing machines that take the place of human labor. Consumers dont pay any less, and companies just make a higher profit. Meanwhile, many people still dont have jobs. Isnt that a problem?

Technology is wonderful, but I dont pretend that its the answer to all of our social and economic ailments. But thats just me...

I dont think we need to ... (Below threshold)
Sean:

I dont think we need to force everyone to conform to the same cultural ideal so that we can all get along.

I dont see a problem with a United States that is comprised of varying cultures.

This is how societies historically fail. You can be comprised of varying cultures, so long as the newcomers actually assimilate into the existing culture instead of remaining apart from it. For a recent example, see the riots in France.

So we have people that need jobs, and we keep inventing machines that take the place of human labor.

According to illegal alien advocates, we have nobody who wants to do these jobs except illegal aliens. Therefore, no jobs are being eliminated.

sean:This is ho... (Below threshold)
ryan:

sean:

This is how societies historically fail.

By being comprised of varying cultures? Well, the U.S., even though people like to pretend that it used to be some cohesive cultural unit, has been pretty damn multicultural from the start. And it has worked pretty well so far.

I'd like to see some examples of societies that failed due to a multicultural makeup.

Now, I can name a couple that failed because of a psychotic emphasis on cultural, ideological, or racial conformity, but whose counting?

Do we, as Americans, really want to be running around talking about getting rid of certain ethnic groups? I stand categorically opposed to any such speech or intent, period.

According to illegal ali... (Below threshold)
ryan:

According to illegal alien advocates, we have nobody who wants to do these jobs except illegal aliens. Therefore, no jobs are being eliminated.

People who make that claim are being overly simplistic. Americans generally dont do the kind of work that immigrants do because the wages and working conditions are pitiful. Immigrants do it because to them it's better than making 10 bucks a day in Mexico. Employers make a killing, workers lose, on both sides of the coin.

I believe I can state autho... (Below threshold)
freeman:

I believe I can state authoritatively that living in fear of getting caught, not to mention that of having a family at stake besides yourself, will eat you from the inside out. If it goes on for years, it is likely to shorten your life by years.

And that might be a good thing since you would be ineligible to collect social security for retirement regardless of how long you had been helping to extend that bankrupt system.

I can also say authoritatively that doing a job that only the most disadvantaged in a society will bother with, without opportunity of upward mobility, will do the same.

Of course, it is the good life compared to the opportunities for most illegal immigrants from whence they came. Maybe that is why they can do it.

Their American employer is knowingly and advantageously getting a committed worker at a discount in return for giving them their only real chance. Sounds a lot like business as usual for the past 400+ years.

The only people in this country with an inherit claim against illegal immigration are Native Americans. And that has pretty much been the rule. We have never regulated the entirety of immigrant traffic across our boarders because it was never cost effective to do anything more than dampen it a little. "Wetbacks" had nothing to do with the great depression. And I am not sure they took many jobs from the "Oakies" either. "Oakies" were meant by Americans wielding clubs long before the issue could even arise. Chinese became prosperous because they did exactly the things no one else was doing. Both time that I have seen California succeed in limiting immigration, the fruit harvests were rotting on the ground even as the high school age unemployed problem sky rocketed.

Furthermore so long as we at least feign the torch of liberty, we are unlikely too. We are a very different looking people today, even in our whitest enclaves, from those who settled this country.

Every generation of new arrivals over those centuries has paid its dues in high death rates and low wages for long hours. Starting with the Puritans, I can't think of any exceptions. But if there is one, hallelujah that some escaped that egregious price!

--
freeman

As long as we all agree on ... (Below threshold)
ryan:

As long as we all agree on the same basic political system to govern us, that being a democratic republic, and the same general moral principles, namely not killing and stealing, I dont give a damn how many cultural traditions exist in the United States.

I am so tired of hearing ab... (Below threshold)
KB:

I am so tired of hearing about how "afraid" illegal aliens are. As if this is supposed to elicit sympathy and change people's minds to start thinking that gee, maybe we should just give them amnesty, so they can "come out of the shadows" or not "live in fear." Feh.

They weren't too afraid to lay their entire lives out on paper to a mortgage company, or get a credit card, or file taxes.

For five years, unscrupulous or ignorant employers have accepted their fake documents with a wink and a nod. The husband runs a business, which entails a good bit of communication with local government entities, I would imagine. He drives for a living (illegally on both counts). I would bet that he has had at least one run in with an officer who had simply issued a ticket and never asked about his status. Their kids are enrolled in their free, taxpayer paid educations. I would wager that they have their real names and information down on paper to take advantage of various federal goody programs int he schools as well. Seems to me that they are, well, living normal (as can be) lives and falsely passing themselves off as legal residents with a right to be here. Clealry they conduct their business and lives without fear, without serious problems, without any real inconvenience.

The fear they whine about when they read about the odd or rare "raid" by immigration is their bitterness about their lack of real documents and the knowledge that if, on the slim chance they were ever caught by immigration, their gamble on theri carefully constructed illegal residency could fail. Oh, the risks and perils of being an illegal alien; and shame on the government entities who facilitate their illegal presence.

I'm glad there finally crac... (Below threshold)
Scott:

I'm glad there finally crackin down. As a resident of N.B. i know what it's like around here.I mean i have no problem with imigrants in this city, damn near all my friends are imigrants...But most of the Guatamualens and Mexicans all have out of state license plates(Rhode Island Plates) and for two reasons. One is that it's cheaper in R.I. and the other is obviously because of their resident adress.A friend of mine was hit by a drunk Guatamalen and the drunk man fled the scene.So police said they could'nt find out who was the operator of the car because the plates were from R.I. and they were expired. So my buddy had to pay hundreds of dollars out of his pocket, and to me that's not fair. The way i see it if you want to be in this country be here legally. I mean it's not that hard, I know alot of imigrants who are here legal and if they did it so can the Mexicans.

I agree with a lot of what'... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

I agree with a lot of what's been said, but it's just talk without effective enforcement. That's why we should privatize one aspect of enforcement by offering bounties for outing illegal aliens who are working. I gave details many posts above. Basically, without jobs there would far fewer illegal aliens and that would let law enforcement concentrate on illegalls who come here for darker purposes.

maybe the dumb man's approa... (Below threshold)
Rick:

maybe the dumb man's approach - why don't we just tax them. once they pay taxes, they are legal. then they can use the govt.services that they are paying for. how? same way insurance companies calculate workers compensation. company believes employers payroll numbers up to a point, but if too far out of line, the company just plugs in their own numbers and makes the employer prove otherwise (via tax info). gosh, this idea raises the employers expenses, which inturn raises the cost of goods sold while at the same time doesn't increase the amount of money into the workers pocket - but does provide money for medical and educational benifits - but at whose expense? the same people that are paying for it now....minus the cost of the middle man (govt.)

Mac:I agree wit... (Below threshold)
ryan:

Mac:

I agree with a lot of what's been said, but it's just talk without effective enforcement.

I completely agree with you there.

That's why we should privatize one aspect of enforcement by offering bounties for outing illegal aliens who are working.

And I disagree with you on the idea of privatization. Why? I dont think that bounty hunters are the answer, period. I mean, why not just hire bounty hunters to take care of all of our legal problems? The problem is the fact that they are somewhat outside of the law, being non-governmental, and many issues arise there. You dont want people who are motivated by profit enforcing laws, you want them to be motivated by a legal and moral code, as police officers and ICE officers supposedly are.

Who would regulate such a private endeavor? Who would they be accountable to? How do they go about their job? Are the required to behave just as police officers/ICE agents do? Offering up bounties for illegal immigrants is just asking for abuse and corruption.

I understand your frustation with the lack of enforcement, but I dont think this is the way to go. I think that we need to actually make some severe changes to the system that we have, and then make sure those changes get enforced.

As Ed stated above, if the process of legal immigration is anywhere near as inefficient as going to the DMV, that might be a major part of the problem.

ryan,I didn't mean... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

ryan,

I didn't mean to imply that privatization involve professional bounty hunters, as in capturing someone. All that's involved is identification of illegal aliens using the probable cause standard that's already used by law enforcement.

If you scroll way up to my original post on this topic you'll see that anyone, even an illegal alien can "out" an employed illegal alien and collect a bounty, even if they out themselves. The employer of the identified illegal alien must show they did a proper background check based on published standards, and if not, the employer pays the bounty as part of the fine. Otherwise the taxpayers pay the bounty. No employer would dare hire illegal aliens as any employee could drop the dime on them and collect a bounty for many of their coworkers.

The current standard of fining employers is weak in that employers only have to prove that they didn't knowingly hire and illegal alien. The new standard would be that employers need proof that employees are not illegal aliens, based on a published standard as to what constitutes proof. Such proof is already required for workers compensation insurance in many states when hiring contractors, so it's not a new idea.

The ADA already allows similar privatization of enforcement, and there are a number of lawyers that make a good living suing businesses that don't meet published standards for handicap access. In effect, businesses pay for the enforcement of the ADA, and it's vary effective. Why not use a similar idea to put illegal alien out of work. Without a ready job market for them, there would be little problem with illegal alien.

This is directed (sans mali... (Below threshold)
Mahan:

This is directed (sans malice) at Ryan:

You stated that:

Well, the U.S., even though people like to pretend that it used to be some cohesive cultural unit, has been pretty damn multicultural from the start. And it has worked pretty well so far.

I'd like to see some examples of societies that failed due to a multicultural makeup.

Now, I can name a couple that failed because of a psychotic emphasis on cultural, ideological, or racial conformity, but whose counting?

A few questions, if I may?

1) Please name what multiculturism meant to this nation from its founding to, oh, say, the 1950's?

2) How were we a multicultural society, exactly, during that span?

3) Please name those societies that fell owing to a "psychotic emphasis on cultural, ideological, or racial conformity". Why did these factors cause the fall, rather than others?

You then stated "I'd like to see some examples of societies that failed due to a multicultural makeup."

I'll give you Ancient Rome, after they allowed the Goths, Vandals, et alia, to settle without Romanization in Roman lands. Furthermore, if you were to examine the vast majority of multiracial/ethnic empires/nations throughout history, you will find that they are unicultural. That was simply a necessity for continued political existence.


Regards.

Ahh, those "hard working fa... (Below threshold)
-S-:

Ahh, those "hard working families" of people breaking the law. Just breaking the laws that Americans aren't willing to do.

If "working hard" and being a part of a "family" while doing so was the basis for "Everything is Alright," then John Wayne Gacy would win.

It's not about "working hard" but about being in the country illegally and using illegal means (with intention to do so) to do so. And even more after arrival.

We will never (again) have reliable, legal immigrants who contribute to our country if we continue to allow illegal aliens to bastardize the very notion of what it means to be an immigrant and, hopefully for the legal ones, an American.

I've met several "hard working" illegal aliens who also had "families" and were breaking nearly all sorts of laws every single day, and many of them federal ones. Just "working hard" and breaking laws! So many laws, so many ways to be illegal! And "hard working".

I heard in Guam that INS gi... (Below threshold)
webitect:

I heard in Guam that INS gives out $1000 bounties if you turn in an illegal, working person. All you need to submit to INS is the name, home address and work place along with your name. Anyone know if that's true? I tried looking in the phone book for INS' number in Guam but didn't find it.




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