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Comments (21)
Better yet - remove any fin... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Russ | December 10, 2005 4:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Better yet - remove any finalist who links the awards site with anything more than a "cool, I got nominated" post and the logo pic.
Shilling for votes proves popularity, not quality... and this is a "best of" contest, as opposed to a popularity contest, is it not?
1. Posted by Russ | December 10, 2005 4:34 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 16:34
2. Posted by McGehee | December 10, 2005 5:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
...and this is a "best of" contest, as opposed to a popularity contest, is it not?
Indeed it is -- which is precisely why I am not a nominee.
2. Posted by McGehee | December 10, 2005 5:04 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 17:04
3. Posted by McGehee | December 10, 2005 5:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
...although, I wouldn't win a popularity contest either, come to think of it...
3. Posted by McGehee | December 10, 2005 5:04 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 17:04
4. Posted by don surber | December 10, 2005 5:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And we wonder why teh Iraqis have problems with this voting thing ...
4. Posted by don surber | December 10, 2005 5:11 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 17:11
5. Posted by Janette | December 10, 2005 5:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'll put another $5 in the pot.
At first I thought the hypocrisy was tiresome but now as they just go on and on about how they don't care...it's getting to be kind of funny.
I suggest a new category: The Blogger Most Likely To Nail Himself To Cross To Generate More Votes - or - The Best Martyr Blogger. Guess who the first nominee will be? But remember he won't campaign for it, he'll just post often reminding you not to vote for him. Well unless you really want to. [Just click here. RIGHT HERE. Now dammit!]
5. Posted by Janette | December 10, 2005 5:44 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 17:44
6. Posted by Matt | December 10, 2005 6:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I see that my and Kevin's suggestion for a category called, "Best Blog by anyone named McGehee or Drachenberg" was completely ignored.
(You would have won that one, Kev)
6. Posted by Matt | December 10, 2005 6:44 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 18:44
7. Posted by Randy | December 10, 2005 8:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think that is a fine new rule. Good one Paul. Hold them accountable for their very own words.
7. Posted by Randy | December 10, 2005 8:07 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 20:07
8. Posted by Beth | December 10, 2005 8:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Paul, I know who you're talking about, but what about those who are willing to take one for the team to make sure that other person DOES NOT WIN?
8. Posted by Beth | December 10, 2005 8:42 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 20:42
9. Posted by Paul | December 10, 2005 8:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Beth, I'm not linking anyone.
The situation is what it is. Personally, I tire quickly of hypocrisy and manipulation. So I had my say.
Ultimately if his tactics win... that's part of life too.
As for me, I live in a town where over 3 months after a hurricane blew thru they are still finding dead bodies in the rubble.
And these dumbasses are whining over Weblog awards?
9. Posted by Paul | December 10, 2005 8:49 PM |
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Posted on December 10, 2005 20:49
10. Posted by Random Yak | December 11, 2005 12:07 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Here's another suggestion: Divert all those votes to "Random Yak" in the "Best 5,000-6750" category. Like presents. "All of your votes belongs to us."
...it was just a thought...you can stop laughing at me now.
10. Posted by Random Yak | December 11, 2005 12:07 AM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 00:07
11. Posted by Les Nessman | December 11, 2005 12:09 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"..and this is a "best of" contest, as opposed to a popularity contest, is it not?"
Not really. Just about everything is a popularity contest, especially contests like these.
11. Posted by Les Nessman | December 11, 2005 12:09 AM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 00:09
12. Posted by -S- | December 11, 2005 12:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I can't stand this.
Here's an organizational idea for next year:
One week and one week only a full month preceding the Awards requests for Categories and Nominees and any/allthings involved, to write all the suggestions, ideas and otherwise possible about the Awards, and to write them on the Awards site and then get all this out of the way and be done with it.
Unfortunately, in my own case, I was impervious to this year's Awards until about last week and late to offer perspective (apologies, since I now realize they're too late to make any impact to the current Awards, while I did, in fact, intend them as general opinion to improve the Awards for the coming years).
But, websites that manipulate the voting once there are acknowledged nominees in acknowledged Categories...we discussed this last year and it looks to be about the same sort repeating this year the bad behaviors of last year...sites such as that should be disqualified from the Awards in future years.
It's difficult to PROVE but not when sites suggest voter manipulations and decry the validity of the Awards themselves. In fact, they identify themselves (whoever promotes manipulating votes in any way) as sites that should NOT be involved, despite nominations otherwise.
And, because avowed Left authors always seem to complain about the Weblog Awards being "conservative" as to Wizbang being the site that organizes the Awards, I think that, too, reveals that to the Left, all things are manipulated to and by political perspective.
Not that they ARE, but that, since the Left is always making this complaint about the Awards ("always" as in last year and now again this year, and beyond that, I have no knowledge of anything related to the Awards), I'm concluding that they reveal their own hand/perspective about how any Awards/this Awards process will be handled: by manipulation -- they reveal their assumption that "conservative" affiliated will, therefore, inherently mean "to manipulate votes" and while I wholeheartedly disagree with that as to political affiliation, I do know some INDIVIDUALS do but it has nothing to do, inherently, with whether one is conservative or not.
Although the legacy by John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Howard Dean, among others among the Left, does establish a legacy of manipulation if not downright cheating. I think the Left is just too aware of it's own effects and behaviors to ever entrust anyone else to not be involved in the same bad character.
12. Posted by -S- | December 11, 2005 12:36 AM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 00:36
13. Posted by Mark J | December 11, 2005 5:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If anyone can vote, and can do so multiple times, it most assuredly is a popularity contest, and thus I am not surprised that contenders are treating it as such. If you want to have an award based on quality, voting can't be open to the general public. You choose panels, have discussions, and have judges vote on the winners.
13. Posted by Mark J | December 11, 2005 5:24 AM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 05:24
14. Posted by Frederick | December 11, 2005 7:01 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Let's try to keep a straight face here, alright? I'm quite far in the left spectrum of politics and couldn't care less whether this award is organized and financed by a (US!) conservative blog/person/whatever or not. There's no contentual relation between the award and politics, so I guess that settles it.
About the awards not being a popularity contest and full with cheaters, I'm sorry, but I have to differ... a lot.
1. Weblogs are all about networking. Vitamin B, nothing else is the blood that runs most sites. Weblogs are known to be frequented mainly by other webloggers, this trend has increased this year btw.
2. Friends and fans tend to be blinded by emotional attachment, so, no, it's about popularity. Don't believe me? Answer yourself the question how nominations work. If you're nominated, a.k.a. some fan of your weblog nominates you. That's alrady one step, you need to be popular to have this nomination at all. If the ticket for the ride is based on popularity, you can still say, no, wait, the rest of the awards is not like it - let's look further into it. Look at this blog i.e.: http://www.ljcfyi.com/
The owner recieves about 0-5 comments per post, not much, not nothing, let's call it humble. Its design is partly nonexistant (http://www.ljcfyi.com/blog/archives/2002_07_01_ljc_archive.html) but it's nevertheless in the "best design" category. The owner reports on the 8th that the blog recieved 30-40 votes since Dec 1st, and two days later, it's at 600+. Not a popularity contest? If it's not, at least in this case it's fraud. Macromedia Flash is so easily hacked it's deplorable you use it for the polls. Whatever happened to polling backed by registered emails/IP addresses and cookies to prevent multiple voting? Check the IP addresses for the voting of the above mentioned blog if you don't believe me. You still don't think so? Look at their weblog awards thread, users in it are even boasting that they're a) voting more than once a day and b) think that nevertheless who's the competition, this blog should win.
That's what I call blindness towards the very spirit the weblog awards initially wanted to stand for.
14. Posted by Frederick | December 11, 2005 7:01 AM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 07:01
15. Posted by McGehee | December 11, 2005 10:21 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
(You would have won that one, Kev)
Sure -- until you went on the radio.
15. Posted by McGehee | December 11, 2005 10:21 AM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 10:21
16. Posted by Mac Lorry | December 11, 2005 11:15 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Great piece Paul! The contributors to Wizbang are among the best in the business, well if bloging were a business they would be among the best in the business. Anyway, keep up the good work.
16. Posted by Mac Lorry | December 11, 2005 11:15 AM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 11:15
17. Posted by -S- | December 11, 2005 1:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"If you were a hotel,
honey, you'd be a grand one,
But if you hit a slow spell
Do you think you could stand one?
If you were a hotel,
Well, I'd lean on your doorbell,
I'd call you my home."
"If You Were A Bluebird"
by Butch Hancock
from Emmylou Harris' CD, "Bluebird"
17. Posted by -S- | December 11, 2005 1:43 PM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 13:43
18. Posted by Jane | December 11, 2005 2:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Paul, I think you take this stuff way too seriously man.
I mean there won't even be an awards ceremony or anything..
Chill.
18. Posted by Jane | December 11, 2005 2:34 PM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 14:34
19. Posted by Frederick | December 11, 2005 4:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have to agree to Mac Lorry, just the effort you put into this is applaudable.
On another note, the ten days voting period is not going to help small sites against huge weblogs like Xiaxue, no matter how many days you extend the period. Reason is, the big blogs need only to put a link on the top and their readers vote every day, too, thus negating the desired effect. Perhaps 2006 should be back to one day or so.
19. Posted by Frederick | December 11, 2005 4:42 PM |
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Posted on December 11, 2005 16:42
20. Posted by TheEnigma | December 12, 2005 11:40 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"The Weblog Awards are a waste of time because they are done by a conservative blog..
Why is it that the far left has no problem quoting from cnn, cbs, abc, nbc, USA today, etc. when the "polls" created by these organizations support the far left agenda. Everyone with even an ounce of intellect knows that the questions asked in the polls are presented in a manner to generate a specific, desired response?
20. Posted by TheEnigma | December 12, 2005 11:40 AM |
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Posted on December 12, 2005 11:40
21. Posted by just visiting | December 13, 2005 1:02 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think you are taking this a little too seriously as well. I stumbled across the blogger you are refering to a few days ago and thought his post was funny. He is not saying the awards are trivial--he is trying to win in an engaging way. In a sense it is a complement to you that he is spending so much time to get the notice concerning his award. I agree with a poster up above--relax; have fun and enjoy the process.
21. Posted by just visiting | December 13, 2005 1:02 AM |
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Posted on December 13, 2005 01:02