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Wizbang Opinion Poll: Michael Moore vs Jimmy Carter

What is a thinking person to do?

Michael Moore is against the ports deal and Jimmy Carter is for it.

Time for a Wizbang opinion poll.

If you had to agree with Moore or Carter which one would you agree with?


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Comments (54)

Is there a "none of the abo... (Below threshold)

Is there a "none of the above" option?

I almost had a seizure when... (Below threshold)
Matt:

I almost had a seizure when I realized I nearly agreed with Jimmy.

I will take a deep breath... (Below threshold)
Veritas Regina:

I will take a deep breath, hold my nose, and support the UAE port business. We have to begin somewhere in support of "moderate Muslims". They have provided the wedge in the Moslim monolith, now we both will apply the pressure. I think its a win-win situation.

I'd have to vote for (cough... (Below threshold)

I'd have to vote for (cough, choke, wees) Carter. I believe he lives in a fantasy world where his misguided foreign policies work every time. Moore on the other hand is just spewing lies and hatred to further his own career and ideology.

I'd have to go with Carter.... (Below threshold)
Arthur:

I'd have to go with Carter. Unlike Moore, he actually supports America. He's just wrong a lot.

The problem is with your qu... (Below threshold)
bruhaha:

The problem is with your question:
If you had to agree with Moore or Carter which one would you agree with?

I'm not "agreeing with" either one. I'm agreeing (in this case) with BUSH. The fact that Carter occasionally chooses, for whatever reason, to do the same is neither here nor there to me.

(Otherwise, my sentiments are much the same as rick13. Moore's ONLY purpose is to destroy. Carter is self-righteous, vindictive, often horribly wrong and deluded... but given two options he's bound to stumble on the right one from time to time.)

bruhaha, chicken!<... (Below threshold)
EXDemocrat:

bruhaha, chicken!


Gee, now this one gave me a brainache. Ccccccarter.

Time for some tylenol.

I would have to agree with ... (Below threshold)
Brian the Adequate:

I would have to agree with Carter because all the evidence (except his endorsement) makes me believe his is the correct position on this issue.

Put me down for Carter. As ... (Below threshold)

Put me down for Carter. As misguided his attempted diplomacy meddling has been, for the most part he's been consistent and coherent in his criticism. Unlike Moore, he doesn't resort to optical illusions or trick photography. Carter would at least have the balls to go to another country to get the scoop on the issue he's railing about, yet Moore hires some poor ringers in Iraq to get footage for his films, he's too chickenshit to do it himself.

Plus Carter was influential in implementing Stealth technology which was his one saving grace when it comes to military matters.

Moore will always be a fat moronic fool, pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Moore is a moonbat and also... (Below threshold)

Moore is a moonbat and also profoundly ignorant. A stopped clock can be right twice a day, but not this time. I'm going with (cough, hack) Carter.

Hey...even a stopped clock ... (Below threshold)
MrEd:

Hey...even a stopped clock is right twice a day..
gotta agree with moore

Carter.Even a blin... (Below threshold)

Carter.

Even a blind pig stumbles across an acorn, now and again...

If I concentrate really har... (Below threshold)

If I concentrate really hard I can still manage to disagree with both of them.

For all thos struggling wit... (Below threshold)

For all thos struggling with the decision to side with jimbo, remember, the only reason he's probably for it is because he would never want to to do anything to upset the ayrabs, as we all know. So, though the destination may be the same, you're getting there by a very different path than jimbo.

Oh, and I'm in favor of it. Everybody put on your hip waders and get our your shovel and make sure you refute statements from people that can't see through the media you-know-what about how an arab country will be running and owning and doing security for american ports. The White House statement on the deal is pretty coherent and provides a lot of facts that I haven't seen in the paper or on TV...things about employee requirements, ownership, what the company really does, etc. I mean, yeah, there's some concern...there's always some concern...the company they're buying is british, why didn't we kick them out after the Richard Reid affair and London bombings and all the imams over there inciting violence?

And just by the by, anyone else fed up that all the headlines have 'secret deal' or 'secret agreement with white house' in them? Then you read the article and it says they're 'secret' because they're almost never released to the public because they're considered trade secrets?

Ahem.I have no opi... (Below threshold)

Ahem.

I have no opinion.

Moore is a populist and an ... (Below threshold)
Bill:

Moore is a populist and an isolationist. Plus if Bush said water is wet, Moore would take the opposing side. So you can see why he would take the position he has.

Carter is an internationalist, and tends toward naivete, you can see why he would the position HE has. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and I think Carter may have stumbled onto the right stance here.

I don't have to agree with ... (Below threshold)
iPod QA Guy:

I don't have to agree with either one. I think there are too many suspicious or possibly suspicious things about the port deal to support it as of yet... so I say put it on indefinite hold and keep digging.

That, unfortunately, puts me in the same camp as the Crockumentary Filmmaker. But then, even a stopped (distorted, crazed, deliberately misleading and lying) clock is right once in awhile. Or, as a proverb I heard says: "Every so often, even a fool is right by accident."

Oh! Krykee!Door numb... (Below threshold)

Oh! Krykee!
Door number one or door number two?
I choose lobotomy, Alex.

Splunge!... (Below threshold)

Splunge!

The facts as I understand t... (Below threshold)
Chuckg:

The facts as I understand them is that the national security of the US is not compromised by this port deal, as the security of the port remains in US hands. Neither am I convinced by the UAE bashing -- sure, they're no saints, but they are not what they've been recently accused of.

Therefore, I must agree with Jimmy Carter -- although I prefer to look at it as *he* has to agree with *me*. Most likely on the 'even a blind pig can find one truffle' principle.

Agreeing with Moore is agre... (Below threshold)
Rob Filomena:

Agreeing with Moore is agreeing with Michael Savage if that makes anyone feel any better. I hope it does not.

Thats like asking: If I am... (Below threshold)

Thats like asking: If I am neck deep in a barrel of rotten eggs, and someone throws a "cowpie" at my face....would I duck?

Regretfully....Carter

Carter. First time ever, I... (Below threshold)

Carter. First time ever, I beleive. Please rest assured that his opinion had zero effect on the one I have come to.

Moore. I just think the con... (Below threshold)

Moore. I just think the contract should be awarded to an American company.

Easy,I'd do as I h... (Below threshold)

Easy,

I'd do as I have done and refrain from commenting to the substance of the issue.

If pressed I'd have to fall back on the "even a broken clock is right twice a day" or "even a blind squirrel finds the occaisonal nut" observation.

Who really wants to be associated with either of those to bloviating morons?

Carter. (God, that... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Carter.

(God, that was hard to type.)

I don't have to AGREE with ... (Below threshold)
Dan S:

I don't have to AGREE with either of them.

Carter happens to agree with me on this one.

It's WAY overblown and the security risks are far less than existing ones that we are not addressing. When tightening security, you start with the greatest weaknesses. You don't accomplish much otherwise. The risks from this thing are minor based on what I've learned to date.

Moore or Carter? You call ... (Below threshold)

Moore or Carter? You call that a choice? Ugh, I have to go with Carter. I mean, heck, China already has their hands on some of our ports, and I think that is actually worse than UAE.

Even a stopped clock is rig... (Below threshold)
plainBill:

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
I'm with Carter on this one.

Looks like the 'stopped clo... (Below threshold)
plainBill:

Looks like the 'stopped clock' crowd is ahead right now....

Let's do the time warp again!!

I am coming to the position... (Below threshold)
yeatanothejohn:

I am coming to the position of supporting the deal. That said, I would prefer not to look at it as agreeing with Carter, but rather that a blind squirrel happened to come across the same acorn.

Why is this such a hard que... (Below threshold)
Master Shake:

Why is this such a hard question? I agree with Jimmy "Cater". Now if this was Jimmy "Carter" I would have to think twice....

Usually if I criticize some... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Usually if I criticize something the President does I get pegged as a sufferer of some silly "derangement syndrome". When that happens I think of threads like this and laugh, especially since I don't have a problem with saying I agree with Bush when I do.

Falze,A minor poin... (Below threshold)
robert:

Falze,

A minor point, but Moody's downgraded A-rabs (ayrabs) to B-rabs some time ago.

As to Carter v Moore; true Carter is quite old, but Moore is very soft. This is hard to handicap because Carter could wear a shirt with a twinkie on it, and die instantly. Or, Moore could wear a picture of a rabbit and Carter would not get out of the corner.

Failing that, I'd make it Carter in the seventh, with Moore out with bite marks from those fabulous Carter choppers.

It's not that I agree with ... (Below threshold)

It's not that I agree with Carter, it's that he agrees with me (in part). I would support the deal as long as there's been due diligence and the necessary authorities have examined the deal and are satisified with the security arrangements.

Moore is simply instinctively choosing the opposite of whatever Bush did. That's his position and he sticks to it, regardless of where that places him.

Blind faith for Bush vs. Ha... (Below threshold)
jp2:

Blind faith for Bush vs. Hatred of Democrats. The ultimate right-wing battle.

I would agree with Michael ... (Below threshold)
Tom:

I would agree with Michael Moore if he said Jimmy Carter is an idiot, and vice versa.

Jeez.... do I hafta?<... (Below threshold)
Gmac:

Jeez.... do I hafta?

My opinion is similar to Carter's, and that's probablly as close to ANY opinion that id10t's had in the 35 years that I've been aware of him.

I honestly don't give a cra... (Below threshold)

I honestly don't give a crap what either of them thinks, I see nothing wrong with the port deal, and that's that.

Carter of course. This port... (Below threshold)
Hershey:

Carter of course. This port deal is no big deal. Stop the madness already.

I agree with Carter's concl... (Below threshold)
Eneils Bailey:

I agree with Carter's conclusion. Don't even want to know how he got there.

Carter or Moore. Does that ... (Below threshold)
Charles Bannerman:

Carter or Moore. Does that mean they are different people? You could have fooled me.
Chuck

I really hate to say this..... (Below threshold)
KiMonarrez:

I really hate to say this... but I agree with Moore.

Now pardon me while I go take a shower, a la "the Crying Game."

Carter, clearly. For the p... (Below threshold)
Alan:

Carter, clearly. For the position, not for Carter.

Difficult question. Arabs ... (Below threshold)
Imhotep:

Difficult question. Arabs support arabs first, power & money rank second and third.

On principle of the Deal, it's Carter/Bush but on the practical side I guess I agree with Moore.

I would have no choice but ... (Below threshold)

I would have no choice but to shoot myself in the head.

i'm gonna have to go with c... (Below threshold)

i'm gonna have to go with carter. with more and more information coming out about the port deals, things are looking up; not necessarily bright, but something that won't really be bad for the country. and if all else fails, carter at least has his work with habitat for humanity to fall back on, while the most useful thing moore has done is keep hostess in business by consuming large quantities of twinkies.

This is a trick poll right?... (Below threshold)
JAT:

This is a trick poll right?

If you had to agre... (Below threshold)
If you had to agree with Moore or Carter which one would you agree with?

I'd do what I always do: say "scroom'both" and make up my own mind.

Besides, the last time Jimmy the Idiot Boy was right about something, I hadn't even cast my first ballot yet. He was almost due to be right a second time. Wonder if I'll live to see the third?

What a curious way to frame... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

What a curious way to frame a question regarding policy: boxers or briefs. So I'll ignore it and let you clean up the mess____never mind; MOORE.

I'm going with Carter on th... (Below threshold)

I'm going with Carter on this but that doesn't mean I wouldn't support a winner take all celebrity death match between the two. Just as long as the 'all' wasn't the decision on the ports.

I side with whatever works ... (Below threshold)

I side with whatever works out best for the country.

They can both kiss my a**.

"Moore is a populist and an... (Below threshold)
nick:

"Moore is a populist and an isolationist. Plus if Bush said water is wet, Moore would take the opposing side. So you can see why he would take the position he has."
POSTED BY BILL 2/23

Um, Bill,

Maybe that's because George Bush lies so much.....

ah, thanks, Robert. I'll m... (Below threshold)

ah, thanks, Robert. I'll make a note.

And, nick, we're still waiting for evidence, it's been like 5+ years now...any time...chime in...




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