How DARE he be disrespectful to the Last Survivor of America's Royal Family!

Hang him! Hang him NOW for daring to diss his Royal Lardliness!

Count me in for a donation to his legal defense fund.

I agree with the student 100%. The only problem is that Ted was probably so drunk at Chappaquiddick he couldn't remember his own name.

For the life of me I cannot understand how Kennedy got away with Chappaquiddick or how the people of Mass. can justify to themselves re electing him.

Hitting Kennedy with a pie is a futile protest...he'd just eat the damn thing.

SENATOR KENNEDY WAS FRAMED BY REPUBLICAN DIRTY TRICKS OPERATIVES (G. G. LIDDY AND E. H. HUNT) AS PART OF A BROADER PLAN TO SMEAR OPPONENTS. THANKS TO FOIA REQUESTS, THE OPERATION WAS RATHER WELL KNOWN AND WAS CODENAMED "COINTELPRO" AND THEN LATER "MKULTRA".

KENNEDY WAS EFFECTIVELY THE FIRST CANDIDATE TO BE "SWIFTBOATED". SO TO SPEAK... AND THIS PUNK KID, TROST, WHO WASN'T EVEN SWIMMIN' (HEH) IN HIS SIRE'S TESTICLES WHEN THE CHAPPAQUADIK FRAME UP OCCURRED, HAS THE UNMITIGATED SHUTSPA TO INTERRUPT A SITTING SENATOR WHEN HE'S SPEAKING! THAT PUNK ISN'T FIT TO BE THE ASSISTANT TO THE GUY WHO WIPES TEDDY'S A$$!!!!

Bill, get back on the meds now before its too late.

My problem here is that we can't both hold this guy up as a shining example of political protest AND condemn those who assault and disrupt Coulter's speeches. It's one or the other, and I'd rather listen to an uninterrupted speech. Protest outside, but don't disrupt the experience of others.

Argue all you want about his punishment vs the punishment of others, you have a good point there. Without knowing the full details, I think we can still all acknowledge a liberal lean exists on most campuses. But labeling him 'My New Hero' is a bit shortsighted and hypocritical, IMO.

--trb

Of course, full-grown adults interrupting th e President of the United States is perfectly acceptable.

This kid deserves a medal, and a transfer to a less-boneheaded institution.

Bill Metzger wrote:

SENATOR KENNEDY WAS FRAMED BY REPUBLICAN DIRTY TRICKS OPERATIVES (G. G. LIDDY AND E. H. HUNT)

{snip psychotic drivel}

Don't forget Karl Rove and Halliburton....

Brett

is a bit shortsighted and hypocritical,

The very definiton of conservatives!

He won't be disciplined.

Yes indeed swimmer was "swiftboated", an early example of speaking truth to power.

Yeah, the swiftboaters definitely didn't have power, unless you consider Republican funding (who run both houses of Congress and the WH) any sort of power. Oh, and Nixon working with their leader. Other than that, no power.

I kind of hope Dick Cheney getting drunk and shooting someone in the face will have the same effect on his career - a longstanding embarassment. He's just lucky no one was in his car with those DUIs he got.

OK, you had me scared on that one. A post titled "My new hero" which opens "Senator Ted Kennedy" needs a warning label - it's likely to cause heart failure in your regular readers. Still, I have to agree with you - I like this undergrad's style. More to the point - I'd rather be expelled for remembering the past than rewarded for ignoring it.

JP2 - "I kind of hope Dick Cheney getting drunk and shooting someone in the face will have the same effect on his career - a longstanding embarassment."

A longstanding embarrassment? Are you kidding? Mary Jo Kopechne is dead and all Ted Kennedy got was a 2 month suspended sentence. You call that merely an embarrassment. What I call an embarrassment is that the people of Massachusetts continue to elect Ted Kennedy after Chappaquidick, and that the man actually ran for President.

What really and truely confounds my faith in the universe as a whole is that people have to look for nefarious motivations for the swiftboaters and Vietnam POW's because they can find no other reason whatsoever that a bunch of veterans from that era and the POW's that were tortured in prisons while Kerry was branding them all as inhuman war criminals in the US media would speak out against him.

No... it's Nixon.

Yeeah. Uh huh.

Individually the swiftboaters had no power to speak of. O'Neil has been on a vendetta since the war itself but he's never been able to keep Kerry from public office. The reason things changed when Kerry was running for the presidency *on the merit of his war service* was that the wounds of 30 years ago are still fresh for a whole lot of people. Here was a man who'd labled them war criminals, attached himself to Hanoi Jane's train, and thrown his medals away as worthless to him, even shameful. (Until he felt them useful politically, of course.) And to this day has not signed his military records release form, prefering to only give out what he wants people to see. (I don't suspect he's hiding anything more damning than his IQ scores.)

But the only reason the swiftboaters have to oppose him for commander and cheif of the whole dang military is that they are Republican stooges?

It confounds my faith in the universe.

"SENATOR KENNEDY WAS FRAMED BY REPUBLICAN DIRTY TRICKS OPERATIVES (G. G. LIDDY AND E. H. HUNT) AS PART OF A BROADER PLAN TO SMEAR OPPONENTS."

....The really strange thing is....people cannot determine whether this is sarcasm or meant to be taken seriously...that tells you all you need to know about the left in this Country now-a-days...

Whereas it is easy to believe given the utter incompetence of the Senator from Mass. that he need someone to wipe his ass, I think perhaps you would need his permission to transfer your duties as assistant to anyone else, Bill.

Cro: I'd go with the troll being serious, solely by the name used and mucking up the spelling of chutzpah.

Oy!

trb:

My problem here is that we can't both hold this guy up as a shining example of political protest AND condemn those who assault and disrupt Coulter's speeches.

Keyword there is assault. There is a whole hell of a difference in just standing up, shouting two words, then leaving, and running up and throwing a physical object at a speaker. One is only possibly going to hurt the speakers feelings; the other has serious potential to physically injure the speaker.

But labeling him 'My New Hero' is a bit shortsighted and hypocritical, IMO.

Not hypocritical at all. Had the kid ran up and thrown something at ol' Teddy, sure, it would be completely hypocritical, but that is not what happened. This was just a disruption, not assault that happens to disrupt at the same time.

More to the point - I'd rather be expelled for remembering the past than rewarded for ignoring it.
Posted by: The Random Yak at February 24, 2006 01:16 PM

Oh, good. Then we can bring up Monkey George's DWI, Dick Cheney's TWO (count 'em, 2) DWI's, and the arms-length list of chickenhawks in the current administration, and that's ok too, right?
Or we can always bring up Henry Hyde's "youthful indiscretion" extramarital affair (at the "youthful" age of 40), Lynn Cheney's lesbian love affair trash novel she wrote (and Kerry was accused of bad behavior for calling Mary a lesbian - what a phoney Lynn is), Scooter Libby's bestiality tale (called The Apprentice), etc, etc, etc. Or there's always the WMD's claim, or the "Saddam is involved in 9/11" lie.
How about "I'm a united, not a divider", or "I'll restore dignity and integrity to the White House", or..................

my all time favorite........Richard Nixon's "I'm not a crook"

Enough
This happened 36 years ago.
You know, First Lady Laura Bush killed a friend while driving as a teenager.
Ted's case was adjudicated. You might not like the result. Tough.
Chappaquiddick came a year after his brother was assassinated and 5 1/2 after his other brother was assassinated. No excuse but had Ted been convicted of DUI causing death he would have been out of prison for 26 years.
This student is a brat who showed no respect for a senator. Screw him

No way Don, KKKennedy is a traitor like all the DemoRats, this kid is a hero. Of course if someone shows within 1000 yards of President Bush with a Iraq death toll T-Shirt that is treason too.

This student is a brat who showed no respect for a senator.

You're right. It's not like the kid was someone "important", like Helen Thomas or David Gregory for crying out loud.

For the life of me I cannot understand how Kennedy got away with Chappaquiddick

Because wne Kennedys are born, they are immediately given two things: (a) a silver spoon to put in their mouths and (b) a "Get Out of Jail Free" card.

or how the people of Mass. can justify to themselves re electing him.

Mass. insaniry is the only explanation.

Hey jp2, if you have any evidence that the Swift Boat vets received money directly from the GOP or from official GOP funding sources, let's hear it.

"This student is a brat who showed no respect for a senator. Screw him"

WOW! You actually got Daily Kos himself to come here and fling a spittle-soaked comment! I'm impressed!

(OK, I'm also confused: for *what* should I respect Ted Kennedy [D-Generate]? His alcohol tolerance? His incoherence? His total lack of conscience? His sheer physical mass?)

"Leading a chant to drown him out, for one."

Emphasis on "drown."

How amusing that this was happening around the corner from the hospital the same day Valerie was born.

Don,

Did Laura Bush wait ten hours to report her car crash, causing her friend to die due to a lack of rescue/medical treatment? Mary Jo died because Kennedy was more worried about his political career than he was about her life.

How amusing that this was happening around the corner from the hospital the same day Valerie was born.

In recognition of the one really worthwhile comment in this thread, let me just say congrats to Jay and Deb on the new tax deduction.

What a perfect microcosm of the loss of civilized behavior this post and thread is. To take an example of disgusting manners and to turn it into a political whine fest is proof that we've lost our collective minds and accepted a lack of upbringing and downright bad manners as something to cheer about.

Each time we applaud behavior like this, no matter if it is directed at a republican, democrat, woman, ....anyone, we lose a little more pride in what we've touted for years as American civilization.

People are not defined by their political beliefs. They are first and last defined by their character. If you don't get that, it must be the concept eludes you. To understand character and to live with yours intact, you embrace good manners. Period.