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As ye sow, so shall ye reap

Yesterday, I spotted a news item that struck me as a bit familiar: over at Al Jazeera, they are reporting on the suffering of the Palestinians (as usual), and blaming Israel for their woes (as usual). But in all the complaining about the mean old Jews closing a border crossing after a measly couple of pesky little rocket attacks, I was reminded of Sherlock Holmes' famous dog barking in the night.

The story refers to the Palestinians being unable to export their crops, grown in greenhouses in Gaza and exported for much-needed income. The tale refers to the hardships of being unable to send them through Israel to eager markets, describes the wasted crops being dumped, and quotes suffering Palestinian farmers.

But incredibly conspicuous by its absence is any mention of these greenhouses' history.

They were built and operated by Israelis while they occupied Gaza, when Israel was pulling out Jewish donors from America raised $14 million and bought them from their owners, then out-and-out GAVE them to the Palestinian Authority, to give the Gazans a means to support themselves.

And these greenhouses were promptly looted and vandalized by rioting Palestinians, often while security forces either stood by and watched, or in some cases joined in.

(It is worth noting that fully half the Palestinian Authority's budget goes towards "security," in a waste of government funds that would give even Robert Byrd palpitations.)

This is not merely a case of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. This is beyond choosing death over life. This is an example of a people literally destroying their own future for the sake of petty, meaningless expressions of hatred.

And then these very same people chose to be led by terrorists, the terrorists who made suicide bombing a household word.

Tell you what, Palestinians: get back to us when you're willing to join the civilized world. Until then, don't call us, we'll call you. And when that phone don't ring (presuming you haven't blown it up), you'll know it's us.

(Excellent prediction of this happening here, and a hat tip to SnoopyTheGoon, who is guest-posting at Yourish.com.)


Comments (16)

You Said: "Tell you ... (Below threshold)

You Said:
"Tell you what, Palestinians: get back to us when you're willing to join the civilized world. Until then, don't call us, we'll call you. And when that phone don't ring (presuming you haven't blown it up), you'll know it's us."

I say:
Tell You What, You Americans: don't beg for our oil. Live in your tiny "so-called" Texan styled civilized world which consists only of Americans hopefully you'll have peace of mind without exploiting poor farmers in Africa and bombing innocent civilians. We won't call you, we already know how pathetic cellular service in America is. In fact we might just feel like blowing it up.

Palestinians have oil? When... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

Palestinians have oil? When did that happen?

I'll also note that the U.S... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

I'll also note that the U.S. has never "begged" for oil. We buy it, at prices set by the oil producing nations.

In return, we sell food, among other things. How's oil taste?

MU,Irving nailed you... (Below threshold)

MU,
Irving nailed you on the Palestinian oil issue, so I will leave that one alone.

As for exploiting poor farmers in Africa, the U.S. produces enough food by itself without having to import food from Africa, so your point is moot. Actually, there is probably more exploitation of poor farmers in Africa by (drumroll please) Muslims.

Regarding the bombing of innocent civilians, the U.S. cannot hold a candle to the Muslims of the world on this issue. The main difference here is that when the U.S. bombs innocent civilians, it is because they are in a war zone, so these civilians should be expecting bombs. On the other hand, Muslims prefer their bombings when the innocent civilians least expect it.

Finally, if you bombed our cell phone service, it might be an improvement, so go right ahead.

MU frothed:<blockquo... (Below threshold)

MU frothed:

Tell You What, You Americans: don't beg for our oil.

As JI said, PAlestine has oil? We have oil, btw, just not as readily accessible as Saudi and other OPEC sources. Either between difficulty of getting to it, or envirowacks standing in the way. For now, OPEC oil is still easier to deal with.

Live in your tiny "so-called" Texan styled civilized world which consists only of Americans hopefully you'll have peace of mind without exploiting poor farmers in Africa and bombing innocent civilians.
The USA is the world largest breadbasket. We export more grain than many nations gross product, per capita. We don't need to exploit African farmers. Their own corrupt regimes do a fine enough job as it is.
We won't call you, we already know how pathetic cellular service in America is. In fact we might just feel like blowing it up.

Ah, more of the love and peace that MU tells us that he and Islam stand for. Good to see your true colors coming through over here as well as on your own blog.
So, why is it when you get pissy, you jump so quick to talk of murder and bombings?

The musings of yet another ... (Below threshold)
solo:

The musings of yet another practitioner of the "religion of tolerance and peace" aside, I'd like to know why we tolerate this false narrative regarding "the Palestinians"? There is no such thing! They're Arabs. Mostly disaffected Jordanians unwelcomed by their fellow Arabs.
To call them "palestinians" is the exact same thing as calling the people of West Virginia "Appalacians" who are insisting that they're 'State' is "occupied" by foreign interlopers.

The entire dialog that has been constructed around the issue if Israel and "the Palestinians" is a bald faced lie! And, therefore, so is the motivation for the murder of innocents by these disaffected Arabs.

Let "The Palestinians" learn to behave like civilized human beings, or let them rot in their own hatred.


Our cell phone service may ... (Below threshold)
cubanbob:

Our cell phone service may suck but at least it is better than the non existing Muslim cellular service. Which country has an Islamic science and technology derived cellular service? None. Get back to us when Islamic science and technology perfects the flying carpet.
We don't beg for your oil. We discovered it. We extract it. We pay for it. All the camel jockeys do is collect a rent check. Without our science and technology you would still be riding camels from one watering hole to another and barely surviving.
The Palestians can truck their exports through Egyptian ports. Or use some of Arafart's stolen money and build there own port in Gaza.
MU = MOH-ron.

Hmmm.Fina... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

Finally, if you bombed our cell phone service, it might be an improvement, so go right ahead.

I vote for bombing the cable companies.

Ah, more of the love and peace that MU tells us that he and Islam stand for. Good to see your true colors coming through over here as well as on your own blog.

Rather curious isn't it? And this is the guy that refuses to accept that Americans and Europeans are rapidly losing patience with the violence-prone muslims.

Dear brothers and sisters,<... (Below threshold)

Dear brothers and sisters,

First of all you should know that Palestine is the Holy Land of the Muslims. Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, etc. all form a part of the Muslim World which we are all trying to unite. We have the oil.

I am not becoming upset, I want to spread peace and love, but remember I will not tolerate exploitation and murder. I want our children to live together in peace, but all of you here seem to be opposed to it. Do not try to turn and twist my words and make them sound violent, the way your news channels do when Ahamadinejad speaks.

Please do not try to make this sound like a war. It seems all of you are against me.

Peace be upon all of you.

"I want to spread peace ... (Below threshold)
interstate:

"I want to spread peace and love, but remember I will not tolerate exploitation and murder."

We'll remember this the next time a suicide bomber blows up a bus or train filled with innocent people or when one of your wonderful cell phones sets off an IED.

Too late, MU. You already s... (Below threshold)
John Irving:

Too late, MU. You already spoke your feelings, backing off with "peace and love" statements doesn't erase your previous statements.

Also, are you Shia, Sunni, or one of the other various sects? Because I guanrantee the others don't want you unifying them under your rule, no more than Baptists want the Catholics ruling them.

'Muslim Unity': "I want... (Below threshold)
BorgQueen:

'Muslim Unity': "I want to spread peace and love, but remember I will not tolerate exploitation and murder."

Neither will we, buddy.

'Muslim Unity': "Do not try to turn and twist my words and make them sound violent, the way your news channels do when Ahamadinejad speaks." "We won't call you, we already know how pathetic cellular service in America is. In fact we might just feel like blowing it up."

No need to twist them. Your words speak for themselves.


First of all you s... (Below threshold)
DavidB:
First of all you should know that Palestine is the Holy Land of the Muslims.

A brief simple history leason for you MU, since it would appear that you don't know the history of your own religion.

Muhammad did not begin to preach the faith until the 7th century CE. He began this in what is present day Arabia, not Israel/Palestine. The jews had been residing in Israel for quite some time prior to that. It's interesting, in one of the histories that I read, because Muhammad felt that his teaching about the visions he had were not accepted by Jews and Christians of the time, he moved to form his own religion. The birth of Islam, in Mecca.

Now, that is an overly simplistic little bit o' history, but Israel being the Muslim holy land only comes about after the Jews had already proclaimed it so, and after the Muslims conquered Israel.

Damn trolls . . .

Palestinians? (or, as the l... (Below threshold)
Wanderlust:

Palestinians? (or, as the lovely Arafish used to say, "Balestinians"?)

NO. THERE IS NO SUCH THING. "Muslim Unity", get over it. They are more accurately titled "Jordyptians".

There are those who claim that the "Palestinians" are the modern-day descendants of the Philistines of antiquity. That's a lie that comes as closest to the truth as it can be, from a historical perspective. In the Torah (Old Testament), in the books of Joshua, Judges, I and II Samuel, and I Chronicles, you can read repeatedly about how the Philistines harried the Jews. By Solomon's time, though, the Philistines were pretty much wiped out.

Truly, as you reap...

Modern-day "Palestinians" are nothing more, or less, than Egyptians and Jordanians. Hence the "Jordyptians" moniker.

As to the rest of history, I won't kick a dead horse, because our troll hasn't demonstrated a keen intellect in this thread so far.

I will say this. "MU", if you are intelligent, answer a few questions, if you can:

How many of your beloved Arabs have stood out for innovations in the sciences, especially medicine and technology?

How many Arabic companies in the fields of telecommunications, engineering, physics, software, or manufacturing, innovate in their respective industries - that is, WITHOUT having learned their crafts from a third party, such as the United States, EU, or (gasp!) Israel?

Of the 22 Arab League countries, what do those countries specialise in exporting, OTHER THAN crude oil, natural gas, and metals made by companies using technology invented in Europe or the US (such as aluminum smelting or steel, energy-intensive industries that are increasingly flocking to places like UAE because of the abundance of cheap flare gas)?

Oh, and let's not forget: your precious "Palestinians" want it both ways. Open borders so they can bomb the people (Israelis) that they depend upon for jobs and commercial markets. REALLY SMART, that. Don't you love it when a Splodeydope blows him (or her) self up on a bus, or in a market, and Israel closes its borders, how quickly the "Palestinians" whine about the borders being closed, because they can't work?

Why, "MU", can't they work in their own "country"?

Oh, that's right.

IT'S NOT A COUNTRY! It's nothing more than a damned terrorist camp, where women's wombs are considered to be bomb factories, and where children are indoctrinated practically from birth on aspiring to blow themselves up, in the name of a religious icon, Mohammed, that married a 6 year old girl, and consummated the marriage when she turned the ripe old age of 9 (Aisha).

So yes, Gaza was truly a litmus test of "Palestinian" self-governance, along with the recent elections. And the results? All the items Israelis donated to the people of Gaza were destroyed within a couple days of the withdrawal, and the election netted a governing party whose manifesto cheerfully calls for the wholesale destruction of Israel.

So, "MU", you don't like what we have to say? Then GO THE F*CK HOME, and try to exist without the benefit of American investment in whatever Arab League country you settle in.

Let's see you do it.

Hmmmm.It'... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmmm.

It's interesting, in one of the histories that I read, because Muhammad felt that his teaching about the visions he had were not accepted by Jews and Christians of the time, he moved to form his own religion.

It is rather curious that Mohammed at first tried to assert himself as a son of Abraham but was rejected by the jews of that time. Then Mohammed tried to assert himself as a prophet of a renewed Christianity, but was rejected by Christians of that time.

It's a curious thing to wonder how things would have turned out if the jews of that time had *accepted* Mohammed and embraced his vision. Consider that Judaism had never embraced the missionary zeal. But if Judaism had in fact embraced Mohammed it's unlikely that he would have abandoned the conversion by the sword. A Judaism ascendent based on an amalgamation of semetic tribes under the aegis of a militant Judaism that seeks to convert by the sword.

Now THAT would make for the basis of an interesting parallel universe story.

Then again there's almost no chance that the jews of that time would have accepted Mohammed. Judaism has never been about numbers but about attaining a deep personal relationship with God.

Curious though.

Hmmm.Of t... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

Of the 22 Arab League countries, what do those countries specialise in exporting, OTHER THAN crude oil, natural gas, and metals made by companies using technology invented in Europe or the US (such as aluminum smelting or steel, energy-intensive industries that are increasingly flocking to places like UAE because of the abundance of cheap flare gas)?

I tried making the point, in another thread on this blog, that if Islam cannot be reformed and a penultimate war does break out that the vast disparity in technological ability would effectively doom muslims.

Of course MU either didn't want to understand that point or couldn't. *shrug* everyone's got their own personal set of blinders.




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