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Autumn Ashante: Racist Child Poet

Seven year old child racist, poet, and black separatist Autumn Ashante' was invited to perform her poetry at the middle school and high school in Peekskill, NY where she rendered the following "poem":

White Nationalism Put U In Bondage


White nationalism is what put you in bondage
Pirate and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin
Drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with
Steel, tricks and deceit.
Nothing has changed take a look in our streets
The mis-education of she and Hegro -- leaves you on your knee2grow
Black lands taken from your hands, by vampires with no remorse
They took the gold, the wisdom and all of the storytellers
They took the black women, with the black man weak
Made to watch as they changed the paradigm
Of our village
They killed the blind, they killed the lazy, they went
So far as to kill the unborn baby
Yeah White nationalism is what put you in bondage
Pirates and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin
They drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with
Steel laden feet, throw in the tricks alcohol and deceit.
Nothing has changed take a look at our streets.

Students and parents were understandably outraged and complained to the schools, which led to a tape recorded message sent out to over 3,000 parents. Her father called the Peekskill school officials who apologized for Autumn's racist rant "racist crackers." Yes, you read that right.

When crackpot liberals have control of our government run education system, this is what is defined as education. Forget about math, science and English. Social engineering and rabid multiculturalism are the priorities.

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Comments (222)

As someone with a degree in... (Below threshold)

As someone with a degree in English, I look at this poem much like most people would look at a seven year old's drawings: it's a mess.

Even if you put the message aside, her free form style does not contribute to the poem. It reads too much like a prose rant. Jesse Jackson writes more poetic speeches than this mess.

While some of the imagery is interesting ("blood of the sheep"), too often she leaves images out there for interpretation.

She also uses accusations of activities without reasons. She goes from "white nationalism" to piracy to vampirism, but none of these causes (or are they means? this is unclear) is related. If her purpose is to claim her people have been abused for a host of different reasons, then why does she state white nationalism is the cause?

This is clearly "train of thought" poetry. Unfortunately, the thoughts are the scattered ramblings of an angry 7 year old.

Being egged on by her angry... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

Being egged on by her angry racist father

First of all, I highly doub... (Below threshold)
Yo:

First of all, I highly doubt she'd come up with all of that from her own perspective (how many 7 year olds know that the word "paradigm" even exists, let alone, what it means?).

Secondly, the poem totally overlooks some very important, historical facts. Ala ..., that some of the first people to go to Africa to mine for slaves, were from Arabia; a thousand years before Columbus, Morgan and/or Darwin (who only explained the concept of "evolution" - even to the point of "social evolution" - he didn't recommend or assist) were even born. Also, that fellow Africans were guilty of the same sins assigned to the white man, if not worse - since those same Africans sold slaves to the white man.


"It was not about being disrespectful to anyone," he said. "It was the truth. There was not one line in the poem that was out of turn."

That's a matter of perspective, and civility, actually. "Truth" relevant only if you're black, however. The poem blames Columbus for the plight of the black man without regard whatsoever to how the American Indians were treated.


Beyond the fact that it takes a racist to spot a racist, isn't "racist cracker" redundant.


I guess the fruit don't fall far from the tree, now does it, pop?

And, personally, the use of ebonics in a poem such as this - either kills her point, or makes it.

.. apologies for the rant.

Victim-in-training. ... (Below threshold)

Victim-in-training.

Hmmm."Kill my land... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

"Kill my landlord, kill my landlord ..."

So what, she is saying what... (Below threshold)
eric daniels:

So what, she is saying what Bob Grant and Rush Limbaugh say on their shows everyday, And if she hates whites she was free to say it just like Ann Coulter can say 'ragheads". Oh I see, it's Right- Wing Political Correctness only Black Conservatives have the right to comment about race not a young black girl who has been home schooled. I don't see her leading three planes into buildings so stop your whinning !!!!

Haha ed."Secondly,... (Below threshold)
jp2:

Haha ed.

"Secondly, the poem totally overlooks some very important, historical facts. Ala ..., that some of the first people to go to Africa to mine for slaves, were from Arabia"

Slavers from Arabia were quite different from than the Europeans who later came. In fact, Somalians travelled to Mecca yearly to sell themselves and children while completing their Hajj. This is similar to the "Africans themselves had slaves!" argument, which also has no merit.

I consider the slavery of Africans by European colonists to be one of the greatest crimes of humanity, so I certainly understand the hurt and anger. However, I'm not going to critique a 7 year old's writing. I'll leave that to the wonderful people of Wizbang.

I know this is damning with... (Below threshold)

I know this is damning with faint praise, but it's better than Dhimmi Carter's poetry.

jp2,How is an Arab... (Below threshold)

jp2,

How is an Arab (or black African) slaver "quite different" (read: "much better on the moral scale") from the European slaver?

Goose, gander.

jp2, forget historical fact... (Below threshold)

jp2, forget historical facts, how about current events?

Africans STILL ARE being enslaved, tortured, and killed.

http://www.iabolish.com/

That probably doesn't have merit either. It's certainly not worth getting upset about.

I agree, as someone with a ... (Below threshold)
bcb:

I agree, as someone with a BA in English and who has taking poetry writing classes this stuff is horrible.

Hey, EdSneak into ... (Below threshold)
Rick13:

Hey, Ed

Sneak into his window, late at night.

Watch dog barking, do he bite?

"C I L</p... (Below threshold)

"C

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my landlord."

I have a poem of mine from ... (Below threshold)
meep:

I have a poem of mine from when I was 7 years old. I remember it ending:
"My hair is brown,
And Mary is my name.
I look like a bird,
And that is a shame!"

Needless to say, I came up with it all on my own.

I have a feeling someone was "helped" with this poem. I didn't get this pretentious until middle school. FWIW, I believe this girl is being homeschooled, so it's not like she's learning this stuff in a public school... not that it doesn't get taught. Just that I think the teachers hold most of the nastiness back until high school, or middle school at the earliest.

jp2, you're a putz... (Below threshold)
Yo:

jp2,

you're a putz. And I mean that, sincerely.

1 - "This is similar to the "Africans themselves had slaves!" argument, which also has no merit. "

Similar, yes .. but not exactly what either my intent was, or exactly what history has to say on the matter. I didn't say that Africans HAD slaves, I'd said that they'd SOLD slaves. There's a difference. And that difference leads to the following comment being a typical moonbat tactic of narrowing of a viewpoint to make an otherwise assurd comment sound credible:

2 - "I consider the slavery of Africans by European colonists to be one of the greatest crimes of humanity, so I certainly understand the hurt and anger."

I think most people, even Wizbang readers/commentors wouldn't disagree; but, again, as you miss the point, the slavery "BY" europeans was made significantly easier when other Africans are facilitating.

I am not condoning, nor trying to divert blame - I'm simply trying to ensure that all responsible parties are accounted for. A fact conveniently overlooked in Ms. Autumn's Father's racist blathering disguised as political commentary disguised as his daughter's poem.

I don't think she wrote it; so, if your comment about Wizbangers tearing down a little girl was directed towards me, you've, once again, failed to grasp what I was saying.

Besides, I doubt highly that a 7 year old can witness and comprehend the depth of what's being conveyed in the poem - without parental guidance. So, while you may understand the hurt and anger, she doesn't. All this child knows is that "whitey is bad" because daddy told her so, which allows her the mentality to live in the past filled with hatred rather than try to get over that hatred (which cannot be changed) and move onto the future, which can be.

Bigots beget bigots and making excuses for them ain't gon' help the matter.

Additionally, those same Africans didn't simply sell to the Europeans. The fact that Somolis (and other folks, too) sold themselves into slavery is, simultaneously, true (and a violation of the Qu'ran) and ignorant of more detail.

Your comment is set in such a way to infer that the only slaves in muslim lands were ones that sold themselves; and that's just ridiculous to say.

Sure, some did. But a vast majority were "harvested" by North African mulsims, and non-muslims from Central African, then redistributed to other muslim, european and american lands.

Let's also not forget that mulsims purchased folks from the Caucauses and central Europe to be slaves.

Of course, this isn't about muslim history, per se - it's about you wittling down my points to such a fine edge that you think you carve up my opinions.

Which you can't.

I have no issue with african americans calling out whites for being assholes. That shows an attention to history and an understanding of how we got to where we are; however, I do take issue with the narrow-minded historical interpretation that her obviously racist father instilled into his young daughter. He's no better than some hillbilly racist, or white supremicist, or radical muslim, or whatever type of ignorant piece of shit example you want to throw in there.

Teaching hatred is not good - period. That's what he's done.

I'm a tad unsure how you can find it in yourself to defend that.

She goes from "white nat... (Below threshold)

She goes from "white nationalism" to piracy to vampirism,

Well, as someone suggested on another blog, the "white nationalism" reference most likely came from her racist father and the "pirates and vampires" came from the little girl's imagination.

Freedom of speech but only ... (Below threshold)
eric:

Freedom of speech but only for whites, black conservatives, and ghetto rappers. You people can't refute anything she said, so you call her a "black racist".

Well 15 years of white conservative poltical correctness has reared it's ugly head. This child can not get 18 men or women to fly planes into buildings or get black americans to kill whites or others she just said some words 'you people' don't agree with so you call her a racist I don't think that people know the term.

The 1st amendment applies to Purrisan Blue and Autnm Ashante and if you don't like don't listen to her, If these kids can recite rap lyrics and argo rock, then they can accept a 7 year old child's take on her country.

As a black man, I have not stood for the pledge of Alligence since I was 16 years old, due to the hyprociritical nature that this country treat it's black citizens. I know black children her age who did not need her father to see the two-faced nature of it's history and how it treats black children .

America is a great country but it is also a country that

1. depises it's black citizens
2. Wants them dead
3. and fears they will join the arabs in taking this country down
4. And fears black males for reason no. 3

eric, get a grip. Criticis... (Below threshold)

eric, get a grip. Criticism of this child - or more accurately, her father - does not chill her right to free speech. It just means the 1st amendment applies to us too.

The girl speaks four langua... (Below threshold)
eric:

The girl speaks four languages and is home schooled, I tend to think you cons would be happy she is in a two parent home where she is being inspired. Oh as long she tows the line on race like...

1. Colorblindness ( B.S.)
2. Assimialtion ( More B.S)
3. Racial Harmony ( A pipe dream)

Autum has the same rights to express herself like Purrisan Blue. You conservatives are always looking for the "black racist" in every corner. If these kids can listen to AND RECITE LYRICS to inspid bands like Nickelback and stupid rappers like 50 cent, then they can listen to a child who is obviously intellectually advanced for her age.

I quess only ...

1. Whites
2. Asians - Americans

can be gifted and have parents who are encouraging black folks like Autum are racist what a country !!!!

If anyone thinks (eric) tha... (Below threshold)

If anyone thinks (eric) that a seven year old actually wrote this without any help or influence, then you haven't actually met many seven year olds. She could be a genius and know what "paradigm" means and be able to use it in a sentence. It doesn't give a seven year old a world view so caustic and bitter. Daddy gave her that.

She and her father may have the right to say anything they want, but the school has the right not to have to listen to their racist crap.

Arab muslims from Morocco a... (Below threshold)
John:

Arab muslims from Morocco and Algeria were raiding British and French coastal villages for Christian white slaves well into the 1800's.

Just so you know.

(quote) If anyone thinks (e... (Below threshold)
eric:

(quote) If anyone thinks (eric) that a seven year old actually wrote this without any help or influence, then you haven't actually met many seven year olds. She could be a genius and know what "paradigm" means and be able to use it in a sentence. It doesn't give a seven year old a world view so caustic and bitter. Daddy gave her that.

She and her father may have the right to say anything they want, but the school has the right not to have to listen to their racist crap.

Oh I was 10 when I knew the score on america so don't run that game on me Maureen. And I am tired of you cons saying her parents were on welfare so can't be that smart.

You conservatives are always looking for the latest black racist to "lynch' digitally how patheic.

Hey, ericIt was 19... (Below threshold)
Rick13:

Hey, eric

It was 19 hijacker's, not 18. Read up a bit before you go on a rant!

She has the right to say whatever she wants to. The question is should anyone be promoting hate?

Black Child's Pledge<... (Below threshold)
Rick13:

Black Child's Pledge

I pledge allegiance to my Black People.
I pledge to develop my mind and body to the greatest extent possible.
I will learn all that I can in order to give my best to my People in their struggle for liberation.
I will keep myself physically fit, building a strong body free from drugs and other substances which weaken me and make me less capable of protecting myself, my family and my Black brothers and sisters.
I will unselfishly share my knowledge and understanding with them in order to bring about change more quickly.
I will discipline myself to direct my energies thoughtfully and constructively rather than wasting them in idle hatred.
I will train myself never to hurt or allow others to harm my Black brothers and sisters for I recognize that we need every Black Man, Woman, and Child to be physically, mentally and psychologically strong.
These principles I pledge to practice daily and to teach them to others in order to unite my People.

Where in the above does it read "Hate"?

I think that this little girl has missed the point completely.


http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/

Hey eric, stop putting word... (Below threshold)

Hey eric, stop putting words in my mouth and learn to read. I never said that she couldn't possibly be smart. And yep, no mention of welfare. As a matter of fact, I'm convinced she's way smarter than you. What I said was that a seven year old - gifted or not - has not had time to have the experiences that this poem relates to its audience.

This poem makes me sad for that little girl. She's growing up in a house of hate. Nothing good can ever come when people (black, white, whatever) do this to their children. If she truly is a very gifted child, it's a shame they are wasting it on this hate. Shouldn't she just be caught up in the wonder of the world around her at age seven? Is there a any other reason this father has to be filling her with hate at such a young age if nothing else than to fullfill some sick need within himself? A seven year old little girl should be writing poem about fun and happy things - things that seven year olds are actually interested in - like horses, princesses, Barbie, or their pet. Or for Black History month, how about a hero? Something a bit more age appropriate.

And I call B.S. on you "knowing" the score on America at ten years of age. I'm around that age group all day, trust me, they don't care about the "score" unless they are repeating crap they heard from home. More likely someone you looked up to gave you the "score" and now as an adult you decided that you would just be lazy and go with that instead of forming your own opinions.

Now that's very white (or m... (Below threshold)
eric:

Now that's very white (or minority) of you Maureen. she may be smarter than me,but we are not debating who's smart and who isn't. And I hope that more black parents home school their children than they did Autum. I would have rather have strong thinking independent black children than racial reconcilation any day.

One you don't know every child you see or teach, So don't make assumptions about black children (or children in general) because you make an ASS out of U and Me. Typical white (or minority) conservative

From South Pacific (Rodgers... (Below threshold)
Pat:

From South Pacific (Rodgers and Hammerstein)
Song: You've Got To Be Carefully Taught

You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught before it's too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught!

*yawn*whatever. I... (Below threshold)
Yo:

*yawn*

whatever. I call bullshit on the whole thing, now.

Racism, by default, is a combination of ignorance and hatred.

Anyone who doesn't recognize the ignorance and hate in that poem is blind.

Matters not who cast the first stone. It matters who cast the last.

If we can all get people to stop chucking stones and being such bitches about everything, maybe racism would go away.

So Autumn and her father are racists. Toss 'em on the heap with Pat Robertson and Al Sharpton and let 'em all rot.

Eric's going to twist and turn anything I, or anyone he percieves as being white has to comment on the "black situation" because we're not black.

Fine.

Whatever.

Intelligent people have better things to do with their time than to discuss racism.

See ya...

ps - Maureen. You're my new role model for brevity in commets sections.

eric,Why are you a... (Below threshold)
Rick13:

eric,

Why are you against reconciliation? Why not put all the hate away? Why do have to take the "whites did it to us, so we have to do it back" position? Real men don't practice hate or require payback! Defending hatred makes you the bigot! All the "yeah, but you did it to me first" stuff wont change that.

eric,Why are you a... (Below threshold)
eric:

eric,

Why are you against reconciliation? Why not put all the hate away? Why do have to take the "whites did it to us, so we have to do it back" position? Real men don't practice hate or require payback! Defending hatred makes you the bigot! All the "yeah, but you did it to me first" stuff wont change that.


Because there is no society on the face of the earth that has reconcilation of any kind,(pick any country) the best we can hope for in america is co- existence and that is better than outright hate or race war.

I can't believe nobody has ... (Below threshold)

I can't believe nobody has brought up the point yet that since this is a public school system there are no guaranteed First Amendment rights like there are "out there" in the "real world" of America.

Look at it this way: if I had a 7 year old daughter, and I set her up to recite a poem called "Black Nationalism Destroyed American Culture" or something like that, and called all black people "rapists" and "thieves," ect, do you think she (and I) would be well received? If I sent her to a school with a black majority and then called said school district "racist n-----s", do you think that would fly? No? How is this any different from the poem in question?

Why is racism OK when it is perpetuated by non-whites? If you want to say it is bad for X to do Y, then it had better be bad for Z to do Y, too.

I'm so sick of having the actions of others dumped at my feet and pinned on my shoulders. Judge people for who they are, not how they look. Dr. King is probably rolling in his grave right about now.

(And don't you are pull any "you're a racist" crap on me. My family is a mixture of different ethnicities (black, red, and white) and religions (Christian and Muslim), tyvm, and I like it that way.)

Oh, and by the way, from a ... (Below threshold)

Oh, and by the way, from a literary standpoint that poem is on a 7-year-old level, which means it's about as groundbreaking as a finger painting.

Oh, and by the way, from a ... (Below threshold)
eric:

Oh, and by the way, from a literary standpoint that poem is on a 7-year-old level, which means it's about as groundbreaking as a finger painting.

Then why don't you try it dipspit!!!!

Eric, I've been writing poe... (Below threshold)

Eric, I've been writing poetry and short stories since I was in 7th grade. I love to write so much I've devoted my life to English. I am a Secondary Education English major.

Trust me, I have tried it.

Look at it this way, little... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

Look at it this way, little hateful autumn has two life choices in front of her/.

One, be a shakedown artist like Jesse Jackson and make a living off of extorting major corporations by threatening lawsuits.

Two, have no job of substance other than count on funds from Jesse's extortion practices to pass on her hate to the next generation of angry and unsuccessful black youths.

It's really two great choices, and a win win for society in general, black and white.

And Eric, get over yourself. Do you think your attitude and I'm sure the cancer that your passing on to your children, if you have any, is going to make society better or worse? Do you think it's going to improve the situation for black people with clowns like you mired in bitter hate or do you think perhaps moving forward and taking advantage of opportunities will improve black society?

Newsflash dipshit, you're going nowhere except to Jesse's posse with your bullshit, so why not move somewhere else where you don't have to see white people. I'm sure wherever you pick is really going to be a step up for you and your family.

You have more opportunity than any other racial class in this country and yet all you do is consume yourself in your pathetic hate and self pitty. Pathetic ass.

"The girl speaks four langu... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

"The girl speaks four languages and is home schooled, I tend to think you cons would be happy she is in a two parent home where she is being inspired. Oh as long she tows the line on race like...

1. Colorblindness ( B.S.)
2. Assimialtion ( More B.S)
3. Racial Harmony ( A pipe dream)

Autum has the same rights to express herself like Purrisan Blue. You conservatives are always looking for the "black racist" in every corner. If these kids can listen to AND RECITE LYRICS to inspid bands like Nickelback and stupid rappers like 50 cent, then they can listen to a child who is obviously intellectually advanced for her age.

I quess only ...

1. Whites
2. Asians - Americans

can be gifted and have parents who are encouraging black folks like Autum are racist what a country !!!!"

Eric, I don't give a fuck what you do or what dipshits like this little brainwashed girl and her jackass of a father do. As a matter of fact, other than my problem with my children being exposed to lies like this if it was my school, I could care less what you or her say.

Do you really think i'm worried that people like you are going to take over the country? For the love of God, I wouldn't be worried about you taking over anything important. You see, the more you talk, hate and whine, the less people will take you seriously and the more you and your kind will fall behind. So have at it, speak up, loudly and publicly as often as you can. While I could give two shits about your future, you sure thrill the segment of America that still judges you based on your skin color.

How in the hell do people like you still exist? Have some conviction to your bullshit and move somewhere else if it's so bad here.

And be sure to check back and let us know how you're doing.

We have no way of knowing i... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

We have no way of knowing if eric is really a black man or someone just trying give black men a bad name. It seems to me that no black man with the attitude he has been expressing would pick a cracker name like eric as his moniker. Best to not play his game whatever it is.

I find this poem to be disg... (Below threshold)
Tawny:

I find this poem to be disgusting both as a poem alone and as a political standpoint. I am from one of the most conservative and backwoods states in the entire nation and I do not know a single person who "fears black people." I cannot even think of a single person I know who might have even slightly racist intentions, and I have never met a redneck who thought black people were going to become terrorists.

I think the majority of the problem is that people are so insecure about their race/skin color/culture that they always think it's being attacked when it isn't. Even white people do this. It's absolutely ridiculous. Just calm down and think of yourself as a "person," not a "black person" or a "white person" or any other color person. It's as simple as that.

It comes down to one simple... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

It comes down to one simple thing:

I'll forget you are black when you stop reminding me.

It comes down to one simple... (Below threshold)
eric:

It comes down to one simple thing:

I'll forget you are black when you stop reminding me.


Since you cursed me with slurs I will forget that you are white when you are dead Jack. Now eat shit and die you white bastard.

(quote) We have no way of k... (Below threshold)
eric:

(quote) We have no way of knowing if eric is really a black man or someone just trying give black men a bad name. It seems to me that no black man with the attitude he has been expressing would pick a cracker name like eric as his moniker. Best to not play his game whatever it is.

Black, proud and over 21 whiteboy. Happy now you can call me a 'black racist' or wahtever you white conservatives come up with.

"Autumn Ashante: Racist Chi... (Below threshold)
bryanD:

"Autumn Ashante: Racist Child Poet" She. Did. Not. Write. It. Kim. You. Ignorant.(blank)

White Bastard?That... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

White Bastard?

That's a gem eric. There's really no need to respond to people like you because I'll go to bed each night knowing that you're a miserable piece of shit with no future in this country because of your pathetic little pussy ass "blame whitey" for all my troubles bullshit. You're going to take over the country? Right, I'm awfully concerned that a man who's idea of happiness is no white people is going to make it far in the US. And what exactly is it you're going to do to take over? Certainly not economically, as I'm sure there's just a huge number of open doors for a bitch whiner who hates white people.

Armed struggle? Sure, I guess it won't come as a surprise that there's probably a good number of heavily armed citizens that would like nothing more than to see you try. Good luck storming the castle sugar.

It's sad that you're such a punk and that you may infect your chilren with the same attitude, but I honestly can't be troubled with someone who's only chance of making a name for himself is dying in a hail of gunfire from white police after finally losing your mind and killing some white person for your failures. I do feel sorry for your children if you have any, you obviously can't help yourself but they could have had a chance in this wonderously prosperous Country if it weren't for your brainwashing.

Well, you can't help people who hate to much to be helped.

Black, proud and over 21 wh... (Below threshold)
wilky:

Black, proud and over 21 whiteboy - Eric

And working overtime to undo all the work of the civil rights movement. You must be so proud.

I hope he's not too far ove... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

I hope he's not too far over 21 because I would have a certain degree of satisfaction knowing that he has many, many years of self absorbed misery to stew on.

At least I don't have to sw... (Below threshold)
eric:

At least I don't have to swear like you Jack to get my point across. Like AUTUM did I merely called you are white bastard which you are (LIKE MANY WHITE CONSERVATIVES). Typical of your race, you think that I am on welfare and some government assitance when I have said I am a black nationalist and don't believe in..

1. Racial Harmony
2. Colorblindness
3. Racial Reconcilation

I believe in black uplift and control of the economic, politcal, and social constructs of the neighborhoods like the..

1. Jews
2. Asian Americans
3. Italians
4. Croats
5. Serbs

And you are digitally lynching a 7 y.o. black child because she doesn't believe in "your america" and it's ideals. What pussies you white (and minority conservatives) are can only stand diversity of thoughts when it is a black conservative.

Now go into the mountains or rural area where you live in and have sex with farm animals (as many of your descendants do) or smoke some crystal meth and ruin this beautiful land that I have to deal with some low- class white skank hooking herself for a BJ for 5 dollars so she could score some crank.

Black, proud and o... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Black, proud and over 21 whiteboy. Happy now you can call me a 'black racist' or wahtever you white conservatives come up with.

What makes you think I'm white? Do you think blacks can't be conservative, or that they can't write? I don't think you're black because no proud black man would come on this blog and act like a buffoon. You're probably some liberal white teenage punk getting your jollies pretending to be some stereotypical black man. You probably hate blacks and think it's so funny to entice others with racist remarks in the hopes of proving some black or conservative stereotype. Well go wet your pants somewhere else, you're not the first moron to try this ruse.

"And you are digitally lync... (Below threshold)

"And you are digitally lynching a 7 y.o. black child because she doesn't believe in "your america" and it's ideals."

Riiight... Comparing these comments to lynching is equivalent to playing the Hitler card.

You lose. Q.E.D.

(quote) Riiight... Comparin... (Below threshold)
eric:

(quote) Riiight... Comparing these comments to lynching is equivalent to playing the Hitler card.

You lose. Q.E.D.
And you lose too stupid white skank. You can't refute anything she said like calling her a racist is going to make her feel bad

you lose .. now go smoke some crank you stupid white whore.

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LJD:

Well since I have never owned slaves, it's hard to comment...
This is still the United States of America. No one can 'put you in bondage'. You can only choose to be in bondage. Slavery continues today, but only by choice.
If things are so terrible here, stop being an 'african american'. Go be an 'african african' and take your chances with AIDS, famine, civil war...
It is sad that this little girl has such a warped view. Not a good indicator for future generations being able to get beyond race differences and just be Americans, created equal.

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Jack Burton:

so eric wants his own black society contained inside the United States of America? So tell me genius, what is it exactly that your society is going to exist on? Foreign aid? And what industry exactly are you going to run to make sure that your little tribe of whiners is going to produce or what service are you going to provide. I'd say al sharpton and jesse jackson, but shakedown artists only exist because of white guilt and to have white guilt you need white people.

That sounds like a brilliant plan and I'd be more than willing to vote for your plan if it meant that I truly wouldn't have to listen to your crap ever again.

You don't know me, yet I'm a white conservative? Maybe, maybe not, but I love how easily some little blame whitey puss throws around his own labels. Would that be irony or hypocrisy? Unlike you, I won't get my panties in a bunch because you've prequalified yourself as someone who's opinion matters little.

Whether the poem is racist ... (Below threshold)

Whether the poem is racist is moot. It is a bad poem.

Write a good poem with a racist message, then we can discuss the message.

not eric,You can't... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

not eric,

You can't readily tell the physical traits of a person posting, but you can tell when they are consistent. For example, when someone says they are 5 foot 8 and 300 pounds you get one message, but then when they tell you they like to run marathons, you know they are a phony.

Eric rails against conservatives of all races, yet his view about black self-reliance and black self-help are conservative positions. Are we to believe he hates himself? Eric's cracker moniker, conservative positions, and over the top confrontational verbiage means it's likely Eric is some liberal knucklehead getting his kicks pretending to be some black buffoon. No doubt eric hopes to show off his handiwork to other liberal punks wanting to prove conservatives (his real target) are full of hate and racism. Why play his game?

Isn't it obvious, Eric is a... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Isn't it obvious, Eric is a troll. Don't feed the trolls!

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snowballs:

If I were this little girl's teacher, I would grade the poem under the very courteous assumption that she wrote it by herself like this, starting at 100%.

It didn't rhyme as much as I would have liked it too - while not the cornerstone of poetry today, she still gets marks deducted. After she's 7, and in my classroom, all poetry aside from a Haiku should rhyme ...

bondage/Darwin - no, 95%
deceit/streets - almost, 93%
Hegro/knee2grow, wrong - 85%
lands/hands, nice - 88%
next 2 sentences, nope 82%
lazy/baby, I'll let it slide 82%
whatever on the rest, 80%

She gets 1 mark deducted for bad grammar, we can't have that if you want to be a productive member of the blogosphere, or society for that matter - 70%.

She gets a mark and a half added for public speaking, that makes most grownups want to piss their pants, and I don't think that she ended up doing that - 85%.

If she recited it from memory, then she gets another mark added, let's assume she did (because I couldn't continue after reading the first part of the article) - 95%

As for the underlying theme of the piece, it's a tough and controversial subject, so I'll throw in another 5%, giving her a 100%.

Finally, a little bit different take on this would be to say that perhaps it sparks a DIALOG between PARENTS and CHILDREN and makes them think about the difficulties of being different than everyone else. Lord knows that most parents wouldn't bother unless they were prompted to from an outside source. I'll throw in another 5% for her for extra credit, so her final grade is 105% or A++.

Then, the school did the right thing, but in a wrong way - have the faculty all contribute to a formal letter, with minimal apology, and ask the parents to open up a dialog with their children about such things as race, drugs, violence etc. instead of letting MTV or BET teach them all about it.

If she did come up with this on her own, she's a very brave and somewhat articulate person, however she's going to have the opposition undoubtedly tossing this into the smear campaign when she runs for Office. She should be aware of the consequences of actions.

As for the father, he's a piece of shit, and that should be in the postscript verbatim of his formal letter from the school.

From the article:<... (Below threshold)

From the article:

"Autum defended her poem by explaining to the Westchester Journal News that white people are "devils and they should be gone. We should be away from them and still be in Africa."

Be careful what you wish for, sweetie.

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Jack Burton:

My question to little 7 year old Hitler in the making is this, if white people are the reason the blacks have such a hard time, real or imagined, then please explain the goat fuck that is modern african society.

But by all means, please leave. I hear John Mugabi is going to be looking for a new presidential poet and I think you and your father have exactly the qualifications he will be looking for.

And for the record, I don't believe for a moment that this little worm speaks four languages. Just some bullshit made up by her father to give credibility to her hate, or should I say his hate.

It's ignorance (lack of inf... (Below threshold)
Asia:

It's ignorance (lack of information/knowledge) that would lead you to call Autumn Ashante a racist. There was a such thing as slavery don't you know... and black men, women and children WERE kidnapped and taken to foreign lands, stripped of their clothing and put on auction blocks butt naked to be sold to the highest bidder. Their language was stricken from them (and now we wonder how in the world ebonics came to be), they weren't allowed music (and we wonder why rap is so prevalent), and they weren't even allowed to marry (and we wonder why fatherless children run rampant thru the ghetto). Autumn's poem is the socio-political reality of Black America, take a trip to the Robert Taylor Home [experimental] projects and you'll see that this young woman's poem isn't bigoted, but a picture painted with words of the reality of poor Americans of African and Latino (mix of Indian, African, and Spanish) heritage.

To pass judgement without factual information and actual experiencing the world thru another's eyes (even if it's by walking side by side with them, since you can never truly stand in another's shoes) is PREJUDICE in and of itself. Thus you are allowing yourself to be party to the same stereotypes, bigotry, and prejudices you profess to despise. What white people don't understand is that "minorities" in America are surrounded by western/European history, interests, art, culture, and PEOPLE. It's inescapable... thus, we must learn about the history, art, culture, ethnic backgrounds, religious affiliations, etc. OF people of European descent. The same cannot be said for Black/African and Puerto Rican/South American/Mexican people and culture. As one poster said, she comes from the most conservative, white-washed town in America... that statement right there limits your understanding of "minorities" and deems you unqualified to comment on US because you haven't spent quality time amongst us. The so-called knowledge you have is from tv, movies or hearsay. That's not REALITY. Come on... did you learn about the world from television or porochial school??? Spend some time around people of color, be it in the suburbs or the projects, college or on the basketball court. The only way to negate what you all call the "bitterness" blacks have regarding our history with whites is to actually take the time to get to know us. Naw... not by listening to Biggie or 50 Cent but to walk with, talk to real people, in real life situations... get to know them, so that you can get to understand us.

I've been surrounded by people of ALL ethnicities for all my life (yeah, I'm a Black/African woman) and I love people for who they are, I dislike people for who they present themselves to be to me directly. I don't love or hate people based on media images or biased news blurbs. Understanding is the only way racism, bigotry, prejudiced, and stereotypes will be abolished... and yeah, we've "come a long way baby like those slim ass cigarettes" but as someone said we "have miles to walk before [we] rest."

Knowedge of self is the key... understanding of others is the way!

I hope ya'll don't get caught up in emotions and analyze this post cognitively and logically.

Peace!

oh, to add on... when you g... (Below threshold)
Asia:

oh, to add on... when you get to know people of different backgrounds as more than jst a co-worker you say hi and bye to... but as someone you share stories about your kids with, talk about funny happenings with your siblings and parents, lessons learned from your grandparents... you'll see, we have more in common than you ever realized. You'll see the most important thing to all of us is our children and their education and nurturing and raising them to be self-reliant and successful, happy and satisfied. You'll see we all love our mothers (and some have issues with our moms), love or resent our fathers. We've all been bullied, have sibling rivalry with our brothers and sisters but still love them to death, wanna travel and see the world, yearn for a connection to either God or universal energy that we ALL stem from (cause matter can neither be created nor destroyed which means we ALL stem from the same essence the same source... we know this, learned it in science class... why aren't we embracing it though???) You'll laugh when you learn that Black people like Jerry Maguire too, are LOTR fanatics just like you, read Charles Dickens and Shakespeare in school, and actually grew up listening to Hall & Oats (I Can't Go for That, Sarah, etc) and Queen (Another One Bites the Dust was played at ALL the house parties when I was a kid).

We have to look beyond what's presented to us, look beyond our personal experience, and imagine... what if that little girl is right? Now imagine... what can we do to fix it and ensure that this child doesn't grow to be a bitter adult?

Asia,Most people d... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Asia,

Most people don't deny slavery or it's brutal nature, but it didn't occur in much of the U.S. Then we had a civil war that abolished slavery at the cost of a destroyed south and a great many lives. No one alive today was a slave or a holder of slaves and most of the white population immigrated here decades after the civil war was over. Equal rights under the law was won some 40 years ago and society has continued to make progress, the equal of which has never been seen in all of history. It's still a work in progress, yet the attitude seen in this child's poem does nothing but impede that progress.

Hey guys, my girlfriend was... (Below threshold)
James:

Hey guys, my girlfriend was present at the assembley which took place at the highschool, she's a senior. After the event was over, both white AND blacks were angry with the whole situation. I myself am white/hispanic, went to peekskill high school (graduate2004), & racial tension has died out since the early 90's. This town has gotten over something so petty, & for someone to come in (Autumn's Daddy) & try to disrupt peace and harmony is dis-respectful. Most of the friends I made in this town are black & hispanic. After this whole event, the NorthCountyNews had asked the only white person on the basketball team "How does it feel to be the only white guy on the team." & in the article made reference to the blacks as "They accepted him as if he was one of their own". Just adding more fuel to the fire. I hear Ashante is going to sue the district. ROFL!. And get this. Mr. Bolden is producing Autumn Ashante's album. Anyone else smell the publicity?

Even My F---ing Soup?</... (Below threshold)
joey:

Even My F---ing Soup?

by Autumn Ashante

Honkey-ass crackers in my soup

Chad, Biff and Betty Boop.

Why'd you choose a black girl's meal?

Did you think I'd run? Did you think I'd squeal?

Try again mother-f***ers, I ain't leaving

Not so long as all you honkeys are breathing.

Damn right I'm angry, you want to know why?

Black history month is in February, what the f--- was wrong with July?!?

You know perfectly well my proud African brethren hate that white snow on the ground

That was just one more ploy to hold us down.

White, white, white

Everywhere I look... white.

The milk in my cereal is white and so are these here soup noodles

And don't even get me started on those yippee-ass poodles.

The French flag, all the presidents and Michael Jackson's nose

As well as the dots on my beloved Dominoes.

The clouds and the stars and the whites of my eyes

I'll be painting them all brown... you better recognize.

This comes down to one thin... (Below threshold)
Jayden:

This comes down to one thing. A parent teaching a child to hate. HATRED.... that's all it is. Racism? Yes...there is history...but why hate somebody, because they are the same color of a person who commited a crime. I don't hate black people because of OJ. Stop seeing the world in black and white. We're all the same.... No human was created better than another. We're not black and white people...we're PEOPLE. I don't see the difference between you and me. I see two human beings....i don't know what you're smoking.

"When crackpot liberals hav... (Below threshold)
Chris Jerichp:

"When crackpot liberals have control of our government run education system....."

The little girl, Autumn, was HOME SCHOOLED by her father. Stop blaming liberls on things parents should be blamed for.

Mac,Let me tell yo... (Below threshold)
Asia:

Mac,

Let me tell you, you know not of what you speak. Take a trip out of suburbia, downtown wherever you live and see how the other side of the tracks lives. Be they black white or whatever... times haven't changed as drastically as you think. As you said, equal rights UNDER THE LAW has progressed the mindset of the masses is the same.

And what US do you speak of where a great MINORITY of it had slaves??? The only reason the US is the wealthiest country in the world is because it instituted the Trans-Atlantic slave trade far longer than any other European country, even Portugal who started it. On top of that the mere 700,000 deaths in the civil war (and that's the HIGHEST estimation) is nothing compared to the millions upon millions of unlogged deaths of those who died on board slave ships, were drowned at sea, were beaten to death, lynched, raped to death, died giving birth to the master and overseers "half-breed" babies, died working LITERALLY from dawn to dusk in the plantation fields, etc. etc. etc. In fact, what audacity of you to compare the deaths of men who voluntarily enlisted to fight for their rights to the deaths of those who were murdered in cold blood because they were thought to less than human???

That's exactly what I mean when I say mentalities haven't changed... so sad so sad...

Jayden,Sorry to sa... (Below threshold)
Asia:

Jayden,

Sorry to say, but only a white person would say "I don't see color." Why would you when you haven't faced bigotry and oppression based simply on the color of your skin. I didn't see color either until in 4th grade a group of 7th and 8th grade white girls at my private school surrounded me in the playground calling me a "black bitch" and "disgusting nigger," and appeared to be about to fight me until a mixed boy in 7th grade jumped in between and stopped them.

That instant I realized I'm black and that makes me different than the majority of people in this country. I've had my agency call and tell me an interviewer said "she is great and I'd love to hire her but I don't feel comfortable with someone with dreadlocks in my house." Would you ever get, "I don't feel comfortable with someone with straight hair in my house???" "I don't feel comfortable with someone with a "jew-fro" in my house???" HELLLLL NO! THAT'S racism, THAT'S bigotry and THAT was 2 years ago. So as I said before, are you qualified to speak on the depths of modern day racism? As a white person, I don't think so unless you are the minority within the country you reside.

eric and Asia have to be pl... (Below threshold)
JD:

eric and Asia have to be plants. According to them, despite there not being one single solitary person alive in America today that was either a slave, or a slave owner, that is still Mac's fault (sorry, Mac). lol. Additionally, it is entirely reasonable, if not something to be encouraged, for a young black girl to be educated in pure unadulterated hatred, yet to point out the mere existence of the hatred in her message, anybody else that does so is a racist. And to cap it all off, one can only be a racist if one is black, an oft cited rarely accurate position oft trotted out to simply claim that only they can be the arbiters of truth, and the final word spoken on the topic at hand.

In short, a large heaping, steaming pile of cow dung.

I asked you not to get emot... (Below threshold)
Asia:

I asked you not to get emotional and to analyze my comments with logic and reason... but I guess ignorance IS bliss.

Asia,Let ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Asia,

Let me tell you, you know not of what you speak. Take a trip out of suburbia, downtown wherever you live and see how the other side of the tracks lives. Be they black white or whatever...

The mere existence of poverty doesn't support your case, which seems to be that slavery is the cause of poverty today, not just of blacks, but others as well. In a capitalistic system people who choose not to compete end up on the lower rungs of the economic ladder. Not everyone values material things the same and some would rather not work like slaves to earn a good living. Nevertheless, the majority of blacks in the U.S. today are middle class and up according to census data.

And what US do you speak of where a great MINORITY of it had slaves???

While the number of states were split nearly equally between slave and free, the majority of the people lived in free states. You might as well hold Canada responsible for slavery as to hold free states responsible.

The only reason the US is the wealthiest country in the world is because it instituted the Trans-Atlantic slave trade far longer than any other European country, even Portugal who started it.

That's absolute utter nonsense. The industrial revolution, incredible natural wealth and the millions upon millions of hard working immigrants built the nation as we know it. The slave trade contributed less to the wealth of the nation than what was lost in the civil war.

On top of that the mere 700,000 deaths in the civil war

And there were over 7 million wounded with massive lose of property. All that slavery had built was destroyed and then some.

what audacity of you to compare the deaths of men who voluntarily enlisted to fight for their rights to the deaths of those who were murdered in cold blood because they were thought to less than human???

Are you really that clueless? The union troops weren't fighting for their rights, they gave their lives to free others. There's no greater love than for a person to lay down their life for others and you should be ashamed of yourself for not knowing that.

That's exactly what I mean when I say mentalities haven't changed... so sad so sad...

What's sad is folks who are stuck in the past. All the victims and all the perpetrators are long dead and all your crying and gnashing of teeth can't change a single fact; it's history. People today have a choice, be the perpetual victim of the deeds of the long dead, or join the living in making a better future.

I see nothing wrong with th... (Below threshold)
Andso:

I see nothing wrong with this young lady expressing her mind. To be of the tender age of seven, and also possess the ability to express her thoughts in a manner well above her age is incredible. Maybe some people don' think that a minority child who obviously doesnt fit the stereotypes of black children, should be able to think that highly about herself as well as express her opinion on the people around her. I understand exactly what she means when she calls Columbus a pirate and a vampire. Lets see, a pirate: A thief, who tricks, plunders, and steals and make a living from it. Columbus: One of the many leader of the invasion of the Americas, who tricked native Americans to get their land, who murdered and plundered for their on selfish greed. Do you know that when Columbus arrived here, the natives were enslaved, forced to do labor in gold mines, cotton fields, tobacco fields, etc, and if they missed their quota, they were either executed or had their apendages severed. OH, but lets give this "GREAT MAN" a holiday.
"Columbus, in need of a cargo other than gold and spices to ship to Spain, decided to send the Taino slaves as a show of the wealth available in the New World. He loaded the "best men and women" onto ships and sent them off to Europe, thus beginning the widespread enslavement of the native peoples.

While a fairly large number of men and women were enslaved and sent back to Spain, the fate of those left behind was equally disturbing. With each new island conquered and tribe taken, the leader of the current Spanish expedition would gather the captured natives and ask them to swear their allegiance to Spain and the Pope. This ritual was concluded with the following warning:

I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter into your country and shall make war against you in all ways and manners that we can, and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church and Their Highnesses. We shall take you and your wives and your children, and shall make slaves of them, and as such shall sell and dispose of them as Their Highnesses may command. And we shall take your goods, and shall do you all the mischief and damage that we can, as to vassals who do not obey and refuse to receive their lord and resist and contradict him."
http://www.glencoe.com/sec/socialstudies/btt/columbus/native_peoples.shtml
Oh yeah but he isnt a pirate or vampire, he just lived off the blood of a few indians, you know human beings of which he nearly exterminated through imperialistic genocide. Because of this man and many others, the black family structure was destroyed, our identities destroyed, and these affects are seen in the black commmunity today! Because of this man and others native americans and hispanics have been crippled physically and mentally, financially as a whole as well. So while reading her poem, do you think these aspects affect the white people in the audience?? Be for real, and stop trying to forget the past! As fas as I can see, Columbus is right up there with Hitler, and if being an American means glorifying his ways and his murderous legacy then that brings the question of are we what we truly represent?

Sorry to say, but ... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:
Sorry to say, but only a white person would say "I don't see color."
-Asia

So, MLK had a dream that his children would live in an all white world? Who knew that he and Senators Byrd and Gore had so much in common back then....

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flyingdutchman:

In a year where the world has lost two amazing civil rights leaders, Ms. Parks and Mrs. King Jr., for this little twit to separate out one child from a next speaks volumes about where the cause for equal rights has gone. For the black children to have remained standing while she uttered those hateful words also needs to be addressed. Why do we in the 21st century still feel the need, even as children, consciously segregate ourselves? If there is any "vampire" in the poem it's the speaker that's still seeking sustenance from what should be a long dead concept. And at seven years old it's even sadder that she felt the need to write this. Not only should she ashamed to bring such inane prittle prattle into a celebration of over-coming centuries of struggle but so should her parents. It's not a wonder she authored such a poem when her own father was quoted to be calling the school system "racist crackers." It's perfectly natural to have these feelings and emotions. She's clearly a highly intelligent child, however there is a time and place for everything. This clearly, was not one of them.

Well Miss Asia...I am quite... (Below threshold)
Jayden:

Well Miss Asia...I am quite proud of not seeing color. Where do you get that only white people can live in a world without separating humans by their pigment? That's basically what you just said by saying only a white person would say they don't see color. "White girls" have called you names? Mexican girls have called me names...but I don't hate mexicans for that. YES...there is some racism these days...but the definition of racism is not: A caucasion person picking on an African. The definition is:The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. Whether it's an Asian who hates Americans....an American who hates Asians or an african who hates Americans....it's all racism. PS....I live in a community where i AM the minority....and my best friend is not my race.

I am a 16 year old girl and... (Below threshold)
N. Grier:

I am a 16 year old girl and of african american decent and personally i think that the poem was not made to hurt no group of people. She is a little girl who will grow up to be a beautiful young lady so let it be. Atleast she won't grow up to ingornate.
N.Grier

It seems several people pos... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

It seems several people posting on this topic want to blame the descendents of the slave masters for the problems of blacks today. That's not easy as most whites are descendents of immigrants that came to the U.S. in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, long after slavery was abolished.

Now I reject the whole notion of holding people guilty for the crimes of their ancestors, but it seems there are a number of people in this country wanting to do just that. Well many of the decedents of the slave masters are easy to identify. Did you know that the average black in the U.S. is 30% white, the result of slave masters procreating with their slaves.

Didn't slavery increase the... (Below threshold)
IC2:

Didn't slavery increase the prevalence of poverty?

I thought poverty was an economic imbalance that makes the impoverished group suffer. Poverty may be caused by a number of things but I am almost certain that slavery increases the prosperity of the wealthy and increasing the potential for poverty.

Our biggest problem today is not economic poverty but impoverished souls. We have the ability to be colorblind and to help all people including the less fortunate. Ignoring the problem and blaming certain groups (past: "black slave sellers" or Arabian slaveowners or American imperialists, present: liberals or conservatives) is easy.

Finding a path to rid oneself of other peoples disgusting thoughts is more challenging.


Did the DNA research in "Journey of Man" prove that the entire human race are all descendants of 30 men (and an unknown number of women) who lived in Africa 60,000 years ago?

Even if all humans are not related, do our hearts have room for hatred? In India the untouchables do not exist. They are not hated, the society takes it a step further: they do not exist. I am unable to pretend that I do not see a world that is filled with imperfections rather I prefer to strive toward a world with less imperfections. Offer solutions instead of criticisms.

The kid's ignorant and brai... (Below threshold)
Damonblade:

The kid's ignorant and brainwashed.

In response to the post Pos... (Below threshold)
HATSHEPSUT:

In response to the post Posted by: EdMcGon at March 15, 2006 01:22 PM:

As someone with a degree in English, the language of the opressor. You wouldn't understand that all that matters is the message. This style which you say is a mess is the language that the people (AFRICANS) understand. So honestly, do you hate the style or is it the message?

Autumn Ashante is an evil l... (Below threshold)
Keef:

Autumn Ashante is an evil little puppet. Her Father should be commited for implanting such hatred and bile in his child's gullible little mind.....How tragic. Even more tragic are the fools that are defending her here. Hate is hate, but if the father had any balls, HE would deliver his message of hate himself. What a coward.......

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Nicoleta Radu:

Well, I don't know what to say. Yes the white people have done some bad things but some have other races. The muslim black race in Sudan is killing Christians by the thousands and putting them into slavery if they do not convert in allah's name. That is wrong!! Autumn is only seven and is somewhat misguided. THe phrase about abortion... I believe Abortion is murder. But the black race is just as to blame for abortion as the white race. more black women have abortions each year than white women. Abortion as all forms of evil need to end. God is going to punish us for our crimes of evil.

Well, I know Autumn persona... (Below threshold)
Light:

Well, I know Autumn personally. This is what I will say.

Nothing that was said about her knowledge is false. She been reading since she was 2, speaks multiple languages, and writes her own poetry. (this tends to be a hard thing for people to believe, but who really cares what you believe...the truth is the truth)

She is very well read and has long surpassed the 7 year old's reading curriculum.

With or without all her accomplishments she is still 7.(let's not forget that) I thought I saw someone compare her to Rush Limbaugh(is that how u spell it? oh, well). I can't remember the last time Autumn had her own radio talk show.

She is Charmin, charismatic, and articulate. A lot of this media frenzy simply got twisted.

As an African born in America or an American with African decent (call me what you will) and a Poet/Spoken Word Artist; I'll say this:

Stop telling us to go back to an Africa that you have destroyed...since we're pointing the finger let's make sure we cover all the bases. Besides, my ancestors have plowed the field, built the railroad, raised your children...I have the choice to stay.

You may never find my poetry in your textbook, because there is no blueprint for passion. It is the duty of a poet to evoke senses and spread the truth the best way we know how.

You cannot expect to achieve in the future if you don't educate yourself about the past. Who wants to make the same mistakes twice? Besides, knowing is half the battle.

Trust me, I can't stand when my people use our past tribulations as a clutch. "The white man" this and "the white man" that...Shut up and do something about it. I'm all for undoing wrongs.

I hate a lot of the things that's been done to us (past, present, and beyond). Do I hate you? No. Am I racist? No. Am I entitled to my opinion? Yes.

Opinion...yes
Freedom of speech...to a certain extent

What's the fastest way to call a Black person a racist? Just couldn't wait, huh? Most of you are really sick, because racism is a disease of which Autumn has no symptons

Another thing...Your not wi... (Below threshold)
Light:

Another thing...Your not willing to deal with or speak about what your ancestors have done, but your willing to defend them and take it personally. That is a prime example of a catch 22.

""Another thing...Your not ... (Below threshold)
matt:

""Another thing...Your not willing to deal with or speak about what your ancestors have done, but your willing to defend them and take it personally. That is a prime example of a catch 22.

Posted by: Light at March 19, 2006 04:15 AM ""

Just as most blacks like you get defensive when we criticize you, right? If a white kid had done the same thing that this little whiny, black girl had done you'd be in an uproar, wouldn't you?

Nothing that was s... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
Nothing that was said about her knowledge is false. She been reading since she was 2, speaks multiple languages, and writes her own poetry. (this tends to be a hard thing for people to believe, but who really cares what you believe...the truth is the truth)

Whether or not it's factual isn't the point, it's the history of the long dead that makes it irrelevant to today's issues. If all you care about is repeating old history then the following is also true.

The Indian tribes of South America practice some the worst crimes against humanity the world every knew. In just one incident that has been uncovered they ritualistically murdered 5,000 captured people a day for four days. That's 20,000 prisoners. Human sacrifice is universally seen as the pinnacle of human evil.

We see that blacks claim the achievements of the Egyptians as part of their heritage, so they then must take responsibility for their crimes. From the Bible we find that blacks enslaved the Jews for 400 years.

The native peoples of North America introduced the smoking of tobacco to the rest of the world, so they are to blame for all the death and disease caused by tobacco.

Some could argue that what happened to these people was justice coming full circle. It seems like the theme for a poem that some 7 year-old could be taught to recite in public, and it would be just a true as what's coming out of the mouth of Autumn Ashante. Will you defend the truth then?

""more black women have abo... (Below threshold)
White is right:

""more black women have abortions each year than white women.""

and the problem with that is....?

Hey niggers-You're... (Below threshold)
Hitler:

Hey niggers-

You're always bitchin' and moanin' about whites and this country and how you want your own. If that's the case, get the fuck back to Africa, nigger. See how far you get with building your own economy, your own government and other neccessities without the help of my cracka' ass. It's too bad my grandparents generations didn't either take you back to Africa or just line you up in front of a firing squad. But I guess I can pray that the Hispanics take care of the latter for us whites then.

Matt,If a white ki... (Below threshold)
Light:

Matt,

If a white kid has done the same thing? I'm curious to know what the white version would be, but far from the truth. Please enlighten me.

Mac Lorry,

I hope to think that there are intellectuals on here. Now, if what you say is true about the human sacrifices find a poet to write about it. I don't know where it said in Autumn's poem that you couldn't recite your truths.

Her poem made news and is now a part of a media blitz. If she did this poem at an all black school no one would have blinked an eye. Autumn has been doing poetry for 3 years...traveling the country, appeared on many TV and radio programs, but you're just hearing about her now. Why didn't this little genius get recognized before? Because we love to stay negative...don't we? I wonder...who do we blame for that?

And as for your cry on Egyptians, excuse me Africans, did you know that Peaskill has a mural of 'white' Egyptians(I know that's funny, but there is no such thing) Overseeing the black slaves? This is what Autumn witnessed as she walked into the school.

White Jews? Oh, they exist, but the African Egyptians had the Israelites in bondage. Never said it was right, but if we turn our biblical pages this was around the time of Jesus (King of Jews); who is forgotten to be described as an African.

Wait, what am I saying? Take a random selection of pure blood Africans from various parts of Africa and respect the rainbow that will be standing before you. We do not come in any 1 complexion. You have Lucy as proof and until you can prove otherwise; Africa is the Mother to the world (you do know who Lucy is? Right?)

Where are the Israelites from? Last I checked Israel didn't even exist until after these times. So, the Israelites aren't even from Israel(1 to think about). I am truly tired of your half ass rebuttals.

No where in history is there a comparison to the horrors of the American slave trade. The Egyptians didn't rip the Israelites of their culture, values, faith and they sure didn't take them clear across the ocean packed away like sardines. We have been completely desensitized. Now that we are fighting our way through all your brainwashing and have some kind of false sense of freedom, you want to send us back? No, you're stuck, so deal with it.

History does not compare to today? You're kidding me, right? Let's not worry about the pediphile that lives next door, because today (as opposed to 15 years ago) he didn't molest a child. It is that serious. Your history helps define who you are...whether good or bad. What matters is what your doing to right the wrongs or if your righting your wrongs at all.

Comparing Tobacco from the early 1900's to Newports of today? Research the differences. Be for real. I don't know any Native Americans that sit on the board of the tobacco industry.

I really have nothing else to say, because the truth of the matter is you have your position and I have mine. Honestly, I don't have the time or the patience. Besides, you can't handle the truth...that's why we're really here.

"Matt,If a white k... (Below threshold)
Matt:

"Matt,

If a white kid has done the same thing? I'm curious to know what the white version would be, but far from the truth. Please enlighten me.
"

All ANYONE has to do is make the smallest criticism on blacks, regardless if it's truthful (like the out of wedlock birth rates or how most blacks just plain whine/bitch all the time more so than other minority groups) or mean and hateful things (like the KKK or the Neo Nazis) blacks riot, they demand that person be fired, not be allowed to speak anymore, etc...

I've often noticed blacks can dish it out but they cant take it. Who's the one that can't handle the truth now, buddy?

White Jews? Oh, th... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
White Jews? Oh, they exist, but the African Egyptians had the Israelites in bondage. Never said it was right, but if we turn our biblical pages this was around the time of Jesus (King of Jews); who is forgotten to be described as an African.

The Jews were enslaved in Egypt thousands of years before the time of Jesus. The Jews certainly were not white, but of the people who lived in what we think of as the middle-east, more black than white, but not black either. Some have dismissed Christianity as the white man's religion, but that's just as wrong as saying the ancient Jews were white. It's more correct to say Christianity concurred the white man's religion.

Wait, what am I saying? Take a random selection of pure blood Africans from various parts of Africa and respect the rainbow that will be standing before you. We do not come in any 1 complexion. You have Lucy as proof and until you can prove otherwise; Africa is the Mother to the world (you do know who Lucy is? Right?)

So if all people are of African decent, then what's the poem about. Why say "White nationalism is what put you in bondage..." when all people regardless of the color of their skin are of African decent?

Where are the Israelites from? Last I checked Israel didn't even exist until after these times. So, the Israelites aren't even from Israel(1 to think about). I am truly tired of your half ass rebuttals.

The nation of Israel existed from about two thousand years 2,000 B.C. It was totally destroyed by the Romans around 70 A.D. Israel was reestablished in 1947 in fulfillment of biblical prophecy, something that is totally unique in all of history. As for my rebuttals, I think you are tired of hearing the truth.

No where in history is there a comparison to the horrors of the American slave trade. The Egyptians didn't rip the Israelites of their culture, values, faith and they sure didn't take them clear across the ocean packed away like sardines. We have been completely desensitized.

The ancient South American tribes committed far greater atrocities than what was done in the American slave trade. What Hitler did to the Jews exceeds the horrors of the American slave trade. What Stalin did to his own people makes the miseries of the American slave trade pale in comparison. What Genghis Khan did makes all other atrocious in history look like gentle diplomacy.

Now that we are fighting our way through all your brainwashing and have some kind of false sense of freedom, you want to send us back? No, you're stuck, so deal with it.

Not me, I want you to stay and prosper. I want you to get your head our of the graves of the long dead and work with the living to secure liberty for yourself and your loved ones. That can never come from the hate of the past, only from the love of the future. Many blacks have already made that journey, but as with any journey it starts with looking ahead and taking a step forward.

History does not compare to today? You're kidding me, right? Let's not worry about the pediphile that lives next door, because today (as opposed to 15 years ago) he didn't molest a child. It is that serious. Your history helps define who you are...whether good or bad. What matters is what your doing to right the wrongs or if your righting your wrongs at all.

News Flash: Pedophiles have always existed in all cultures. It wasn't considered a crime or even unusual in ancient times. This has nothing to do with what we are talking about. You can't escape human nature as long are humans are around.

Comparing Tobacco from the early 1900's to Newports of today? Research the differences. Be for real. I don't know any Native Americans that sit on the board of the tobacco industry.

So now you want to be technical, but you blame whites for crimes they or their ancestors had no part in. Actually, most blacks in the U.S. have white ancestors. The very slave masters are their great great great great grand fathers. Do a little research and you'll find it's likely true for you.

I really have nothing else to say, because the truth of the matter is you have your position and I have mine. Honestly, I don't have the time or the patience. Besides, you can't handle the truth...that's why we're really here.

I can handle the truth, all of it. You are the one who's hiding from your own dark past, and your whole blame the long dead scheme falls apart in the light of that truth. Look around the world and you'll find that no society that dwells on the atrocities of the past is prosperous. To be free you have to let go of the past and move forward.

Hi Mac Lorry,I env... (Below threshold)
Help my cracka' ass:

Hi Mac Lorry,

I envy you. As a white person, I get very impatient hearing all the whining, hatred and excuse mongering coming from so many blacks. If blacks want to be look upon better in our society, I suggest follow our rules, learn proper English, dress better (they make belts, you know), denounce the black leaders and the other degenerate and godless things that claim to represent black culture.

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Mac Lorry:

Help.... ...ass,

I stand against racism, from whites as well as from blacks. What you have to remember is that only a minority of blacks are doing the whining, but they are the ones getting the press. Only a minority of whites are openly racists, but they are the ones getting the press. Ignore the hateful noise and move forward.

The dominont culture in the U.S. is not the European culture, but a mix of many cultures from all over the world. Look at the many changes to our culture that came from blacks, such as music, entertainment, arts and science. The same can be said for Asians and our own Native Americians. With few exceptions every person who adopts the philosophy of hard work, self-reliance, initiative, self-discipline, and responsibility for ones own actions succeeds in this American culture. That's what really defines the American culture.

Only by taking responsibility for your own failures can a person break the chain that holds them back. If they look, they see the other end of the chain that holds them is in the hands of a long dead slave master rotting in his grave. I'm standing there telling them how to break the chain and go free. Some will take my advice and some will curse me for making them feel guilty that they have allowed themselves to be enslaved by the long dead.

Hey Mac Lorry-I ag... (Below threshold)
Help my cracka' ass:

Hey Mac Lorry-

I agree with you very much. Again, why don't black people denounce groups like the Nation of Islam or the Black Panther Party the same way most whites denounce the KKK or the Neo Nazis? I'm not baiting you, I'm baiting light to be honest with you. Like most black racists, he's excusing black hatred as 'truth', when one could find some truthfulness about something a white supremacist would say about illegal immigration or black crime, but we would not excuse white racism anymore than we'd excuse black racism.

I'm pretty late in weighing... (Below threshold)
Joy:

I'm pretty late in weighing in on this, judging from the posts. I'm a proud American who just happens to black, and I am appalled at the racist brainwashing of this child and the perpetuation of black separatism/nationalism in the year 2006. I am equally as appalled at the many black Americans who have justified and supported this garbage. It is HIGH time that we as Black Americans stop perpetuating and justifying this double standard of racism and prejudice. It is WRONG to hate anyone because of the color of their skin. White racism against people of color is evil, and black racism against white people is evil.

It's a shame Lincoln's life... (Below threshold)
white is right, black is whack:

It's a shame Lincoln's life was cut short. He was planning on sending blacks back to Africa. I say just deport all them know, fence them off from the rest of the world, put spears in their hands and let nature take its course.

The nation of Israel existe... (Below threshold)
Matt:

The nation of Israel existed from about two thousand years 2,000 B.C. It was totally destroyed by the Romans around 70 A.D. Israel was reestablished in 1947 in fulfillment of biblical prophecy, something that is totally unique in all of history. As for my rebuttals, I think you are tired of hearing the truth.
""

Not to mention that persecution the Jews put up with from Muslims then and now. The interesting thing is that, although Jews have been hated and persecuted whereever they have gone, you don't seem them whining and complaining all the time or wanting non-Jews to feel sorry for them. Maybe blacks could learn from them.

I'm a 20-year old (black-wo... (Below threshold)
Marisa:

I'm a 20-year old (black-woman) student from Canada. I came across info. about this child and this site by chance and was very apauled at some of the comments and discussions i've seen here. First of all, I would like to say that, whether or not Autum's ideas were furnished and incouraged by her father, now that she has those ideas, no one should be directly discouraging HER. As many of you have noticed, she is only 7 and i'm sure she will mature and learn and realize things for herslef as she matures, without the critism and direction of her father, peers, or anyone else. Secondly, I do believe that her father had a great influence on her thinking, and while it is great that he is so loving and supportive of her, he may also be harming her without even realizing it, through the hate that he has for whites. No matter who sold or bought slaves to whome, none of that matters now. That was the past, and how can we possibly move on and grow (as black people) unless we learn to forgive. Notice I did not say forgive and forget...no one should ever forget their past; simply acknowledge it, learn form it, and use what you've learned to enhance your future. I myself loved writing poetry when I was young, but some of them were greatly encouraged, while the others might as well have been condemed. This negative criticism really hurt me as a child. So stop criticising this childs work and start celebrating the fact that she was given so many opportunities that many young black children lack. All we can do about this situation is hope and pray that she grows to realize that maybe her father, despite his love for her, was wrong in his hate for whites, and that there are other ways that she could celebrate her culture and pride for her people.

First off, it is a shame th... (Below threshold)
Miss:

First off, it is a shame that a seven year old child has to point out the truth about the world and get backlash for it. Yet you have grown adults spreading lies daily and not even doing a good job at that. It is clear that most people are blinded by mainstream nowadays, whether republican or democratic. See, this whole political game is another way to separate and conquer a society. But you know, everyone wants to belong to a team. As far as I'm concerned, she is correct... Even the White supremacists are imprisoned by white supremacy. Of course, anyone who loves the western mainstream is going to defend it and say that what baby girl said was wrong. But what about stupid ass Bennett? Is he not a fucking racist? And nonetheless a hypocrit. Cause conservatives don't believe in abortion. You all need to wake the fuck up and realize that the American dream was created for the triflin ass white settlers who stole this land from "red" and "brown" hands because they were so foul that England didn't want them. The American dream was made for a bunch of thieves who needed a place to run and got fucking lost and decided to take advantage of good hearted people.

STOP SPREADING LIES AND SHIT AND PASSING THEM OFF AS HISTORY..
DON'T GET FUCKING MAD WHEN A BABY HAS TO WAKE YOU THE FUCK UP AND SHE'S NOT A RACIST
SHE IS A REALIST

RECOGNIZE REAL AND DON'T GIVE ME SHIT AND CALL IT TRUTH

THE WORLD IS AWAKE AND YOU'RE LOOKING STUPID

this is why i hate black pe... (Below threshold)

this is why i hate black people, their culture, and their inferior brains

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mosmike:

I mean, you can conceivably allow for this girl's, or likely, her father's racism, but what about this one.

Even My F---ing Soup?

by Autumn Ashante

Honkey-ass crackers in my soup

Chad, Biff and Betty Boop.

Why'd you choose a black girl's meal?

Did you think I'd run? Did you think I'd squeal?

Try again mother-f***ers, I ain't leaving

Not so long as all you honkeys are breathing.

Damn right I'm angry, you want to know why?

Black history month is in February, what the f--- was wrong with July?!?

You know perfectly well my proud African brethren hate that white snow on the ground

That was just one more ploy to hold us down.

White, white, white

Everywhere I look... white.

The milk in my cereal is white and so are these here soup noodles

And don't even get me started on those yippee-ass poodles.

The French flag, all the presidents and Michael Jackson's nose

As well as the dots on my beloved Dominoes.

The clouds and the stars and the whites of my eyes

I'll be painting them all brown... you better recognize.

i support Autum Ashante iam... (Below threshold)
Xavier Aranda:

i support Autum Ashante iam in the 11th grade i live in california and were i live we value expression and iam glad we have a 7 year old girl in the struggle and no iam not african american iam mexican and i want to say to autum keep fighting keep doing what you are doing you inspire me so much

xavier aranda 17 years old
union city california

I SUPPORT YOU AUTUM AND WE ... (Below threshold)
xavier aranda:

I SUPPORT YOU AUTUM AND WE ALL HAVE TO VALUE EXPRESSION AND WE HAVE TO VALUE SPOKEN WORD WE HAVE TO BE OPEN TO GREAT THINGS AND OPEN TO THINGS THIS RACIEST GOVORMENT WONT TELL US

I SUPPORT AUTUM ASHANTE


XAVIER ARANDA

IAM NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN IAM MEXICAN

Darwin Explained Why U Are ... (Below threshold)
poet:

Darwin Explained Why U Are Inferior

darwin explained why U are inferior
"origin of species" laid it out
your people evolved to escape lions, crocodiles, and the jackal's snout
the genes were selected through generations and generations and generations
until the black race was muscular and stout
all was well until the europeans went out
and used their larger brains to develop oceanic navigation, steel working, and international trade
when the black man saw the white man
with all of his clout
he was glad to trade his brother
for a steel bar, without any doubts

hey instead of getting mad ... (Below threshold)
XAVIER ARANDA:

hey instead of getting mad at a little girl that is specking the truith we should get mad at a govorment that is lieing to up i support you autum so much we all have to be open to new things


xavier aranda
union city california

Anyone who thinks this litt... (Below threshold)
Cracker:

Anyone who thinks this little piece of garbage is a "poet" must be insane. I support black nationalism and hope that Ashante (where do they get these names?) and her pops start a new movement - in AFRICA!

mexicans are ugly and small... (Below threshold)

mexicans are ugly and small, kind of like garden gnomes

Miss,You obviously... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Miss,

You obviously know nothing of your own dark history. Every culture on earth practiced war and slavery and some even practiced human sacrifice. For millenium the red man fought wars between tribes and enslaved those they defeated. The black man did the same thing and even enslaved the children of Israel. Who are you to accuse anyone of racism. Black Americans are 30% white on average and guess who your white ancestors are. Look in the mirror and you'll see a descendent of the white slave masters who still enslave you, not by chains of iron, but by your own hatred of the long dead. Teach your children that hatred and you'll enslave them as well.

TO ALL OF YOU WHITE AND BLA... (Below threshold)
Floman:

TO ALL OF YOU WHITE AND BLACK FOLKS THROWING INSULTS BACK AND FORTH OVER THE WORDS OF A PROBABLY HOME-INDOCTRINATED 7 YR OLD, YOU ARE ALL A SORRY BUNCH OF ADULTS. YOU ARE IGNORANTLY EXCERCEBATING THE ISSUE AND MAKING THE SOCIETY MORE POLARIZED FOR THE REST OF US TO LIVE IN. I SEE IN YOUR WORDS - OF YOU BLACK AND WHITE FOLKS - THE VERY WORST OF WHAT ALL TRULY DECENT PEOPLE FEAR. I SEE IN THE WORDS OF YOU BLACK AND WHITE PEOPLE THE VERY IGNORANCE OF THE TRUE RACISTS. SOMEONE SHOULD LET YOU WHITE PEOPLE AND BLACK PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRADED INSULTS ON THIS FORUM, THAT YOU ARE NOT DIFFERENT FROM THE TRUE RACISTS OUT THERE. I REFER THOSE WHO HAVE SO FAR ALLOWED THE BILE FROM THEIR GUTS TO RISE TO THEIR MOUTHS ON THIS FORUM. I AM BLACK AND AFRICAN FROM AFRICA WHO STILL HAS A HOME IN AFRICA, AND WHILE Y'ALL OUT THERE FIGHTING OVER WHO IS MORE SUPERIOR/RIGHTEOUS, I AM LIVING THAT FAMOUS AMERICAN DREAM. HOPE THAT MEANS SOMETHING TO YOU ALL.

..OH AND BY THE WAY, IM AS ... (Below threshold)
Floman:

..OH AND BY THE WAY, IM AS AMERICAN AS ANY OF YOU CAN BE. BORN IN AMERICA, RAISED IN AFRICA, BACK IN AMERICA AND PROUD TO BE AFRICAN-AMERICAN. THERE IS NOWHERE I WANT TO BE AT THAT I CANT GET TO HERE IN AMERICA. I DONT LOOK FOR RACISTS AND IF ANY COMES MY WAY, I PITY THEM FOR THEIR IGNORANCE AND MOVE ON. THEY CANT STOP ME CUZ I WONT LET THEM STOP ME. ANYBODY LEARNING SOMETHING HERE?

Floman,You don't n... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Floman,

You don't need to SHOUT. Be careful who you call black and white; you have no way of knowing what race a commented is at any time, even when they claim to be something. I suspect that some of the over the top comments by some claiming to be one race are actually coming from someone who's of a different race just to denigrate others.

What's your problem with the Bible? The answer to the hate you have read on this topic is forgiveness and moving on with your life. At least you seem to have done that in your own life.

Perhaps you could tell Black Americans what it's like in Africa. How is it for Black people where they are the vast majority? What's the standard of living there? Do they blame white people for their problems?

This is shame, and a sham. ... (Below threshold)
LaTonya Jackson:

This is shame, and a sham. Someone is clearly using this poor girl as a media prop to promote their self-serving political agenda. How much lower will these multicultural fanatics stoop for 30 seconds of airtime?

Seven year olds don't know who Darwin is, and there is no way a child her age can truly comprehend and internalize the long, troubling, and complex history of racial politics in this country. Can she really answer detailed questions about the Civil Rights Movement and the Emancipation Proclamation? I really doubt it.

She may be smarter than average, and she may have a measure of intelligence and talent, but she is not inspired, nor does she truly comprehend what she's saying. Clearly, she's being coached. It's wrong, and whoever's doing it must be held accountable for their actions.

This child is simply being used as a cheap political prop for her racist, hatemongering father and his ilk. As a parent, it just makes me ill to see this poor little girl robbed of her precious innocence.

this child has been turned ... (Below threshold)
SAMJONES:

this child has been turned into a brainwashed little girl, filled with hatred and intolerance. how sad that this has been allowed to happen.

the leaders of african tribes sold their members for profit, and this people became slaves. kidnapping? NOT THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF SLAVES! - PLEASE READ HISTORY ON THIS

This child is a victim of a... (Below threshold)
PhillyMan:

This child is a victim of a hateful, ignorant "parent". He (the parent) should have the child taken away for raising her like this. He should be convicted of a hate crime and endangering the welfare of a child. Although she should some day end up on welfare with thoughts like this.

The point made about the Af... (Below threshold)
Miata:

The point made about the Africans selling other Africans is irrelevant and underscores the ignornace of some people about Africa. Africa is not just a continent full of people who identify with each other merely because they share a few common physical features or because they are on the same continent. Africa is an extremely diverse continent filled with many people who do not necessarily identify with their neighboring country (yes Africa consists of countries). This is akin to the Italian who doesnt consider his brother the French as he would another Italian, for example. Thus to say that Africans sold other Africans, in order to suggest that there was "insider trading" going on is akin to saying that French were selling Italians. If viewed in such a way (the proper way) it seems irrelevant because Africans should not and could not be expected to look out for the entire African race no more than one Caucasion could or would be expected to look out for another Caucasion who identified with a subgroup of that race. The Romans and Greek did invade other Europeans' land did they not?

It is obvious that this lit... (Below threshold)
Ericka Morris:

It is obvious that this little girl didn't come up with this poem herself. As a matter of fact, I blame the parent's for teaching this child anger. I also blame the parent's for not broaden her environment to embrace other cultures. This is the real reason that we will never be able to get along as a country. In addition, I really wish this child would take trip back to Africa and see how they are struggling to survive. Finally, it is within my belief that our black ancestors did not fight for freedom and equality for us to continue to waddle in mud. Yet, they fought so that we could shake the dirt off and rise beyond their expectation.

I believe that everyone is... (Below threshold)
Tina:

I believe that everyone is beating this child for no reason. When Dr. Martin Luther King preached to the black people he became a legacy as did Malcolm X and all the other black leaders. I believe that this little girl has a gift and is trying to bring our black people together. White people should stop getting upset when something is not about them! Had Autum been white they would have been praising her and giving her rewards. Keep on my beautiful African American young sister do not let the ignorance of this world stand in your way. You are beatiful don't let anyone tell you different.

TO MAC LORRY:I did... (Below threshold)
FLOMAN:

TO MAC LORRY:

I didn't realize THIS would come across as shouting. This - [!] - is what I thought shouting is. I just wanted to stand out in my opinions to both sides of the divide; I didn't mean to offend anyone. Apologies to anyone offended by my use of upper-case letters.

However, my point has been made and I hope you and everyone - especially those spewing bile on both sides of the black-white divide on this forum - appreciate my thought for what I think it is: a refreshing breather of opinion from the hate words traded between adults at each other, and at a child who still has a lot to learn in life.

It doesnt matter who I call black or white as I havent actually addressed anyone in particular. But I'm probably on point when I say that a number of white and black folks on this forum have resorted to trading despicable and uncivilized words akin to the type the original racists will use - which doesn't make them any better than the latter.

Perhaps I can tell Black Americans what it's like for Africans in Africa, you said. Err..well, Mac Lorry, I must advise you not to generalize like that in your statements about Black Americans. Personally, virtually all fellow Black/African-Americans I know are successful individuals by all standards who do NOT need an education from me about the "standards of living" of Africans in Africa to appreciate their lot in life. They worked hard for what they have and they are proud of their efforts..and if they fail, they won't be ignorant enough to blame it on anyone's forefathers.

I don't think you meant to sound like one who has no knowledge of anything outside America or of other people out there, I just think you have to choose your words more carefully. I must caution you; black, white or whatever race you are, that you should try not to project such an image of yourself in your comments.

Regards.

If a white kid pulled a stu... (Below threshold)
dd:

If a white kid pulled a stunt like
this at a school lawsuites would be
flowing like water.-white kids sit/black
kids stand.

How can anybody black or white think
this was acceptable?

Maybe I dont understand?

The father of this little girl must be a
real dork..

Indiana

somebody should shut that f... (Below threshold)
fdsafdsa:

somebody should shut that fuckin bitch's mouth and her fuckin father too , that son of a bitch .

O LORD KILL

how many times will she hav... (Below threshold)
person1:

how many times will she have been called a racist name in the playground?,are the other kids in the news, do they even get told off? i dont see any diffrence in that and her poem.

"When crackpot liberals hav... (Below threshold)

"When crackpot liberals have control of our government run education system, this is what is defined as education. Forget about math, science and English. Social engineering and rabid multiculturalism are the priorities."

Are you kidding me? What does this have to do with 'liberals?' This is a kid who is being brainwashed at home, read something inappropriate for a school assembly, and was banned from further performances.

How can you possibly turn this into a liberal/conservative, us/them debate? This is an instance that should be addressed based on its unique specifics, and it sounds like the school handled the matter appropriately.

The father's ridiculous comments about school officials being racist has NOTHING to do with liberals or conservatives ... the guy is insane.

Aren't we all a little sick of using the liberal/conservative conflict as a shield and an excuse to not develop one's own intelligently thought-out opinion?

The "... forget about math and science ..." part of your quote ... again, quit being ridiculous.

Obviously, our public school system is not putting political expression under the guise of poetry as a priority. This is an exception, which is why it made the news, it is not the rule, we don't have political awareness being stressed over math and science in our classrooms.

This generalization is not only comically exaggerated, but it also shows a desire to side with a certain angle of spin, thus seriously weakening any validity to the rest of your perspective.

To Tina:I think th... (Below threshold)
Johnny Boy:

To Tina:

I think this is kind of interesting, however:

The perceived problems of black people today are not all related to "white nationalism" or columbus or whoever else. 100 years from now, there will be a black person here or there who believes the root of their problems is these causes. Well, I think that's a logical fallacy, isn't it?? Hasn't it been long enough, and besides Bill Cosby hit the nail on the head a couple years back, and people got angry at him, even though he was right. Multiculturalism for itself is a hideous belief-->


If a culture does not change as the environment changes, it will not serve its people; the culture will then become the millstone that grinds its own people into dust. On the other hand, a culture that adapts will serve its people, and lead them to success. Culture is the tool that can make or break a group.

Preaching cultural preservation has great emotional appeal - but it may be disastrous because old cultural machinery may not work in a modern society. Most people would agree that music, dance, foods, poetry and cultural stories have enduring value. But suttee, eating dead relatives, killing first born females, genital mutilation of women, slavery, human sacrifice, torture, revenge killing, honor killing, theft, castration, ignorance, and lack of self discipline are customs and values that are not functional in a modern world. The difficulty is -- recognizing which characteristics are good and which are bad. Only time and competition with other cultures can tell.

All cultures change over time. Successful cultures are like cars, they are modernized constantly. Cultures interact; successful cultures adapt new patterns that succeed, and they throw away old patterns that contribute to failure. The successful Apaches are proud of their roots, and they maintain some of the old customs, but those who are successful have changed their attitudes about education, time, compassion, work, slavery, and law.

The USA works so well because it adapts to change faster than most countries. Europe, Asia and Africa have very long and complex cultural histories. Very old cultures tend to change relatively slowly. The USA is a relatively young country that is formed by many cultures coming together. Every group within it -, the Native Americans, Europeans, Asians, and Africans has influenced the USA. Much of our unique sense of self-reliance and personal freedom comes from Native Americans, and our experience with slavery has affected the way we look at human rights issues.

Americans are unique because we have been willing to ABSORB the good cultural values of other peoples rather than mindlessly hanging on to old values that no longer work.

The culture of the USA is probably the most eclectic culture in the world, with more internal diversity than any other country - yet we have a peculiar mix of ideas about time, distance, truth, appearance, art, music, aggression, independence, education, work, ambition, honesty, self-discipline, empathy, compassion, responsibility, reciprocity, humor, cleanliness, and optimism -- because we have mixed and shared our values with everyone -- it works!

Russia has more natural resources than the USA but it has not been able to sustain the right mix of cultural characteristics to make it thrive. Japan has no natural resources yet it has been very successful. Culture is the key to success


Is your culture good or bad?

We all belong to a main culture [most of us are Americans] and we belong to many subdivisions of that main culture. We may be, YUPPIES, educated "elite", rockers, rappers, middle class, upper class, druggers, farmers, working class, jocks or preppies. We share most of the values and attitudes of Americans -- but we also have some unique characteristics that come from our sub group.

So, for those still here, the point is:

America has been relatively successful because people all thought of themselves as Americans first, not second. Now, there are people wanting to change this by convincing people to identify a subculture first. Such arbitrary (and such I believe the message of the poem to be) multiculturalism undermines America.

So there is my opinion of it.

FLOMAN,I appreciat... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

FLOMAN,

I appreciate your pragmatic view and I do know and have tired to communicate the fact that the majority of blacks in the U.S. are hard working and successful. Obviously, few of those individuals are posting comments on this topic. The audience I wanted you to address are the blacks who are posting here and seem to feel life would be better for them back in Africa far away from all the white devils. I understand there are many nations in Africa, but you said you still had a home in Africa and I took that to mean an actual residence. That's all I was asking, for you to share some information from your own experience in Africa with people posting on this topic. You seem like a bright person, so I just didn't think I needed to be so specific.

I understand if you don't want to post things that personal.

What's the big deal here? ... (Below threshold)

What's the big deal here? She's a racist and her father is a racist. But so are millions of people around the world. We've got white racists, black racists, mexican racists, arab racists, japanese racists, . .etc. (the list goes on and on). It is clear that this girl is very intelligent but also controlled by her father. To me this story is not about race but a sad tale of a father using his child for his own agenda. If he were to write these poems (which I have a feeling he's had alot of input) he'd just be another angry black man who writes crappy poetry. (Come on "Black history month is in February, what the f--- was wrong with July?!?" . . ummm Fredrick Douglas' birthday and Abe Lincoln birthday - the guy who freed the slaves) There is alot of hate in this world and it is just sad that it is now being taught to children. . . white and black.

Johnny Boy,Great p... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Johnny Boy,

Great post. Obviously you have given much thought to this issue. An interesting moniker for one with such wisdom.

Well, Mac Lorry,I'... (Below threshold)
Johnny Boy:

Well, Mac Lorry,

I'll tell you who I really am. I am 17 and a senior in high school. I am taking a distance learning humanities course over the computer and we just finished a huge unit on cultures and such. "Johnny Boy" is not my real name, it is just my posting name for whenever I go forum running.

But I truly did much thinki... (Below threshold)
Johnny Boy:

But I truly did much thinking, as I find this topic quite fascinating.

i want to just say why woul... (Below threshold)
`TARA:

i want to just say why would all these people get so upset over something a seven year old wrote wheither she got help or not

i like the poem myself i understand most of want was said as being true and if freedom of speech still goes on today, let her say whatever she wants to say

I'm 16 yrs old and i kind of go through the same thing at my school with the things i say but if thats the way someone feels leave them alone

truthfully i do beleive racial profiling goes on and its happening more with people of the same race than any other people

i also beleive that slavery goes on in the united states its just not with chains and shackles its done with eduacation and jobs

again i say let little autumn say whats on her heart

if anyone has words for me just email me at
[email protected]

at anytime

I think that ANYONE that t... (Below threshold)
Tina:

I think that ANYONE that takes offense to what this child has addressed should not be in America. PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH! For everyone that has any degree in English or even plans to pursue a career as a English teacher should re-consider. If you cannot take freedom of speech from a 7 year old then what do you plan to accomplish in English. My heart goes out to this child and her father. Who ever thought that a adult would criticize and leave comments so disgusting to a child. I think that more than half of you should grow up. (I am not going to say all because not everyone is disgusting, immature, and Naive) Are you afraid that this child will expose "our Beautiful America" for what it really is? Does it offend you to know that not all black men, women, and children are ignorant? The bible says "and a child shall lead us," do you become irate to know that this child might not be white? It is possible for minorities to be just as intelligent or even more intelligent than a white person.

I am not a poet nor am I an... (Below threshold)

I am not a poet nor am I an english major. However I would argue that Autumn's poem is not a mess. Someone said that there is no way that Autumn would know the word paradigm. Why can she not know the word paradigm when there are prodigy's who can immulate mozart? It could be that she is just an amazingly talented young lady.

Also I have seen many comments about the way slavery "really" began. Although slavery was going on long before whites brought them to the America's, it was not until then that Africa was systematically taken from its people. We can look at the state of Africa today and still see the ramifications of slave trafficing.

Those who say she is racist and miseducated by her father have their opinions. I went to some of the best schools and saw racism at every turn. There were different wings in my Highschool both of which held different races. The right wing, the miseducated blacks who didnt want" to learn and on the left the whites who were actually getting the education they paid for. For those of you who dont see this on a regular basis, look around you and if you do not see racism at every corner, you are simply not looking hard enough.

And to the English major, Spoken word does not always flow as most poems do, instead it is just another form of expression. It is actually quit beautiful

Isn't it a sad day when peo... (Below threshold)
Roger:

Isn't it a sad day when people claiming to be degree holders in linguistics start pontificating on a 7 year old child's poem. Am at a loss, and the simple question i want to ask is why?.

It's just a poem by a seven... (Below threshold)
Spring:

It's just a poem by a seven year old. But look at what it reduced so many of the commenters here to (my apologies for ending a sentence with a preposition). Perhaps it's possible that she's not the one with the problem at all.

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I came, I saw, I understood:

There is quite a deluge of comments here on this board. To start things off, I first learned of this seven year old poet on a news video on yahoo.com. That is how i learned of this, and as such, I will begin my...explanation of my views.

"you will comprehend, Pip, how rigidly throughout my communication with you, I have always adhered to the strict line of fact. There has never been the least departure from the strict line of fact. You are quite aware of that?" Great Expecations, Chapter 40. These few lines, spoken by Mr. Jaggers to Pip in the classic book by Charles Dickens, expresses my approach to the topics I will be addressing.

There are several arguments on this thread, and i will start with the topic of this little girl, Autumn Ashante, and her controversial poetry. To begin, I argue not that the young girl in question is not in fact as intellectually advanced as she has been said to be, nor that she is a born racist. However, I will say this: Her father has, most definitively, influenced her in the ways of hatred, racism, and prejudice. I am not saying that she was BORN a racist, no, I am saying that she her thinking has been influenced that way. Many people have argued here that she is a simple 7 year old, and that she is speaking the "TRUTH". How can you say this, when the "TRUTH", you claim, involves that of pure hatred and segregationism, spawned from the rage of a man, unknown to society, seeking to use his daughter as an instrument to communicate his racist views? You also say that she has freedom of speech and no one can stop her as she attempts to express her views. Is it right to express one's views, when they promote such ideals as these, ideals that MLK strived so hard to bring down? Is it right to express these views, when they breed the seeds of hate and accusations? Is it right to express one's views, when the very utterance of the those words, causes unrest and ultimately undermines the very principles that pushes our culture, the United States of America, forward? No, I most certainly think not.


Another topic "touched on" here, is the country of Africa and the slave trade. First of all, Africans sold out OTHER Africans to the Europeans. Those Africans thought only of themselves, and sold out their fellow countrymen to others. Would it have been any different if the tables were turned? If Europeans ratted out the others, selling them as slaves to the Africans? The immediate outcome would have been the same. It was only a touch of "fate"(If I had more time, and if this was relevant, I would surely have my say on "fate", the most illogical and unsupportable idea ever) that the Europeans emerged through ancient times as the more technologically advanced. Africans of ancient times were plagued by mainly geographical problems, which slowed down the several civilizations of Africa. Europeans at that time, as incredibly ambitious as they were, seized the opportunity to exploit their neighbors weakness as they sailed to the New World. People of this ancient (or not so ancient, as many would argue) time were incredibly opportunistic, as the lure of discoveries, riches, and glory were so much in abundance. Again, if the tables were turned, no doubt would the Africans have taken advantage of the Europeans had they been not so prosperous. Secondly, the slave trade of Africa is MOST certainly NOT the most horrific atrocity of human history. This is only used by many since it is the most widely known and recent. Mass sacrificial festivals with the Aztecs, Hitler and the Jews, Stalin, Genghis Khan, and possibly the continued warfare and resulting deaths in modern day Africa due to mass rebellions, which do add up eventually (I credit some of the above and future references to particular posters, such as Mac Lorry). Also, countries such as Tunisia and Morocco have pillaged and raided British and French ports as late as the 1800's, taking WHITE slaves!


To conclude, Africans blame many of their problems on their crutches of the past, and just as Bill Cosby wisely argued, Africans need to move on, and stop blaming, as that manipulative father of Autumn Ashante said, the "white crackers".

-Otherwise known as Alex

P.S. I will be back with my follow-up argument. For now, sleep is upon me.

For some reason, my comment... (Below threshold)
I came, I saw, I understood:

For some reason, my comment which i posted after Black Panther's "melanin" post has appeared several posts before it. Anyways, I spent a great deal of time reading this entire thread and posting my comment, and would like not for it to go unnoticed.

Quickfind: Ctrl+F, then type "Jaggers".

*Slaps head* Duh. Lol, that... (Below threshold)
I came, I saw, I conquered:

*Slaps head* Duh. Lol, that above post is completely arbitrary anyway. Meh, this just shows a key characterstic of humanity.

Johnny Boy,Well yo... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Johnny Boy,

Well you're quite precocious and one can only hope that, given another 10 years, Autumn Ashante will reach your level.

I figured you weren't using your real name, it's just that Johnny Boy didn't match with the post. At 17 you're not ready to use an old man's name, even on-line. Enjoy your youth as you'll be amazed at how fast it becomes the past.

This child speaks 4 languag... (Below threshold)
no name:

This child speaks 4 languages? I bet NONE of them are african, right?
It's funny how diseased blacks gobble up as much of the White man's culture as he can!
No child wrote that poem. It was written by an angry, jealous (aren't they all?) black adult.

If you cannot take... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
If you cannot take freedom of speech from a 7 year old then what do you plan to accomplish in English.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with agreement or disagreement with what's spoken, only the right to express it. The same freedom of speech applies to those who criticize what another says.

Under freedom of speech the KKK is permitted to hold public rallies. Certainly you wouldn't expect someone to say you had no right to criticize their views. What if some 7 year-old parroted his father's KKK message. Would you hold your tongue because of the speaker's age?

Are you afraid that this child will expose "our Beautiful America" for what it really is?

Every nation, race and culture has it's ugly history. Heck, many families have members they're not so proud of. Racism is all about assigning character flaws and crimes to people based solely on their race. If it's wrong for anyone to do then it's wrong for everyone to do. It's real simple, racist remarks are wrong no matter who's mouth they comes out of. There's not one standard for whites and another for blacks and another for jews. A lie is a lie no matter who tells it, just as the truth is the truth no matter who tells it.

I'm sad because it seems what so many in this nation fought and gave their lives for was in vain. The ancient hatred we call racism just keeps enslaving those who give it any room in their heart.

MAC LORRY:Well sai... (Below threshold)
FLOMAN:

MAC LORRY:

Well said, your views are appreciated as well - I understand you. It would have been nice if only the black and white hate-mongers on the forum can take a cue from our example of civil communication as opposed to spewing the kind of vitriol the original racist thrives in - forget what race that racist belongs to.

Well I think it will be a futile effort on my part to educate anyone out there who believes the sufferings of his fore-fathers is holding him back in 2006 AD. If I can relocate from a much less developed society in Africa and be comfortable enough walk tall through my current journey to success in America, anyone can do it.

Until some people look in the mirror and tell themselves the truth, that their failures or setbacks has absolutely nothing to do with anyones fore-fathers.. it is only at such a time that they will know what true success/liberation is.

Free your mind..

If white supremacy is a form of bondage by those who believe in it, sitting and whinning and wallowing in the self-pity over the effect of such on you and the persecusion of your fore-fathers by your neighbor's fore-fathers is just as bad a bondage. Yes, it is.

So..free your mind..from the bondage.

Oh yeah, I still have a home and family in Africa and I enjoy travelling there every now and then. My family and extended family is made of successful and well-educated bankers, American-trained medical doctors [my dad] and a kid sister in Medical School there. We are not rich politicians, but everyone makes enough to live comfy. You might say then, that I have the best of both worlds! :-)

2 Points from above pgrph; 1 for MAC LORRY:
*Africa isn't bad at all, especially for the real African-Africans..
*I'm not sure the 2nd or 3rd generation Afro-Americans will settle in fine though - and I guess that's the point you are making. If so, you are probably right.

IMPORT: Be ye black, white, blue, red, and you are having trouble attaining success as an individual or community; First ask yourself, honestly, if you laid your bed right.

Peace and Goodwill..

"No race is more superior t... (Below threshold)

"No race is more superior than the other. None."

how do you explain the vast majority of technological advances in every realm of human endeavor being accomplished by the "white" race? ...now really take a minute to think of all the scientific, economic, philosophic, mathematic etc... accomplishments of this european-derived race. now ask your self this: what the hell would i be doing right now if a white guy hadn't invented this cool computer and internet?

(you don't have to mention peanut butter, i know whitey didn't create it)

"No race is more superior t... (Below threshold)

"No race is more superior than the other. None."

how do you explain the vast majority of technological advances in every realm of human endeavor being accomplished by the "white" race? ...now really take a minute to think of all the scientific, economic, philosophic, mathematic etc... accomplishments of this european-derived race. now ask your self this: what the hell would i be doing right now if a white guy hadn't invented this cool computer and internet?

(you don't have to mention peanut butter, i know whitey didn't create it)

"No race is more superior t... (Below threshold)

"No race is more superior than the other. None."

how do you explain the vast majority of technological advances in every realm of human endeavor being accomplished by the "white" race? ...now really take a minute to think of all the scientific, economic, philosophic, mathematic etc... accomplishments of this european-derived race. now ask your self this: what the hell would i be doing right now if a white guy hadn't invented this cool computer and internet?

(you don't have to mention peanut butter, i know whitey didn't create it)

"No race is more superior t... (Below threshold)

"No race is more superior than the other. None."

how do you explain the vast majority of technological advances in every realm of human endeavor being accomplished by the "white" race? ...now really take a minute to think of all the scientific, economic, philosophic, mathematic etc... accomplishments of this european-derived race. now ask your self this: what the hell would i be doing right now if a white guy hadn't invented this cool computer and internet?

(you don't have to mention peanut butter, i know whitey didn't create it)

"No race is more superior t... (Below threshold)

"No race is more superior than the other. None."

how do you explain the vast majority of technological advances in every realm of human endeavor being accomplished by the "white" race? ...now really take a minute to think of all the scientific, economic, philosophic, mathematic etc... accomplishments of this european-derived race. now ask your self this: what the heck would i be doing right now if a white guy hadn't invented this cool computer and internet?
(you don't have to mention peanut butter, i know whitey didn't create it)

Black Panther,melanin?... (Below threshold)
dd:

Black Panther,melanin?

get a life.

Indiana

First of all nothing that w... (Below threshold)
Jarreth Smith:

First of all nothing that was written in that poem was untrue. The response from white people about the poem just proves how stupid that you all are. How could anyone in their right mind refer to the little girl as a racist? The poem is a clear explanation of how Black people in this country have been and still are victims of white society. To disagree you are definitely a stupid cracker. Black people just recieved civil rights 50 years ago. Now explain that. The same white people in Congress, the Senate, and the White House are the racist crackers who were probably throwing rocks at the children as we tried to go to school. White Nationalism put us in bondage and segregation, have you forgotten. White Nationalism hung us from trees, killed our mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, grandmother, grandfathers, and great grandfathers. The bondage today isn't as physical as it is mental. The mental manipulation. The scrutiny for the poem is just an example. A seven year old girl is obviously torn to find out how American history was formed and feels sadness to see that her people haven't realized it and aren't trying to break away from the ignorance that was forced upon them by White Nationalism. For the media to call this girl a racist or possible racist is to make others feel like it's not good to express your dislike for white people and what they've done. Mental manipulation. As if it is acceptable. Manipulation is your (white people's) mental enslavement of our people. You don't think slavery has an affect on mankind, on how the race would view itself. Well surprise... it does and it still hasn't stopped us, proud Africans. Our achievements academically and socially through such adversity is admirable. That's obvious though. In relation to the poem and you sick white people...White people are responsible for killing millions of people (black) and creating an unstable mental, emotional, and spirtual instability within those people because of slavery. And if a young girls calls your fake heroes pirates and vampires then someone must have told her the truth. In her innocence of being a child, speaking the truth doesn't seem like much of a problem. For a sick developed mind molded by a society that enslaved a human race for over 400 years and is still treating those people unfairly, it may seem a little abrasive. She's a racist?...She is a revolutionary and is making an attempt to wake up you stupid crackers from your evil minds. The Black Man is God and The white man is the devil. Check your history...The white man is responsible for all the war and destruction across the planet...this is no lie.
P.S.
How in the world can Africans, who even sold slaves, be responsible for slavery in America. I swear you white people must (which you probably don't) feel so guilty about ya'll wicked and evil minds and the injustices that ya'll have committed that you'll try to find any way possible to divert the blame.

Did anyone stop to think of... (Below threshold)

Did anyone stop to think of the adjectives you are using to describe a seven-year-old child?

Didn't think so.

I am happy that so many of you think all black folks complain about whites. I am also very thrilled that so many of you think we all care whether you are racist. I am even more happy that you believe we all want to go back to Africa.

I am estactic for all of these things because it means that the ignorant folk will be so unaware as to my true nature, skill, intellect and power as a co-competitor (read coworker) that you will never consider me a viable threat.

That's when I'll take your promotion and, I suppose this is also when the most-ignorant of you will start screaming reversed racism.

I am beginning to realize that there are waaaay more white people who are always shouting that blacks shout racism than the number of blacks actually crying this crap. I also am now realizing that many white people secretly would like to believe that all black people do is sit and shout foul play.

Guess what?? There is a large, large, LARGE number of us who do not think twice about you - and we work with you everyday in Corporate America. We are not marginalized, poor, undedcuated or hostile. And, you know what, I would argue that this is what scares many of you the most. Yup, that's probably why you always try to paint us the same, whiny, complaining, uneducated bunch of N!ggers. It makes YOU feel less threatened.

BTW, to all of the blacks and whites on this board posting racist crap and tired over-generalizations (racist comments by default), get a life.

Re: The child. I do think it was too much, but I do not feel anything she said was not the truth. Also, what arse with "a B.A. in English Lit" wastes their so-called intellect grading a seven-year-old's poem and deeming it "non intelligent."

Gee, what a great use of a degree.

things that seven year olds... (Below threshold)
Jarreth Smith:

things that seven year olds are actually interested in - like horses, princesses, Barbie, or their pet. Or for Black History month, how about a hero? Something a bit more age appropriate.
That man is teaching his child the truth and equipping that young girl with the necessary tools that will allow her to go out into this world and be able to deal with you ignorant crackers. What in the hell does barbie, princesses, or her pet have to do with anything relevant to her existence in this world. I told you something is wrong with you white people. The truth will set an individual free and allow her to use her mind to it's full potential. Education and knowledge...understanding. The truth is this is what we as Black people have to deal with and relate to. And you sick crackers don't even have the ability to conceive that notion.

melanin is found in nearly ... (Below threshold)
SIno Panther:

melanin is found in nearly all mammals, black panther, the difference is we all carry different genotypical variations of it;
Eumelanin is found in hair and skin from brown to black, and can be found also in scarce quanitities in whites, Phenomelanin is similar, but predominantly found in blonde and red hair,

next time, do some research before pulling out big names, its a shame you even label yourself as a Panther, you seem to intellectually inept to be one.

melanin is found in nearly ... (Below threshold)
SIno Panther:

melanin is found in nearly all mammals, black panther, the difference is we all carry different genotypical variations of it;
Eumelanin is found in hair and skin from brown to black, and can be found also in scarce quanitities in whites, Phenomelanin is similar, but predominantly found in blonde and red hair,

next time, do some research before pulling out big names, its a shame you even label yourself as a Panther, you seem too intellectually inept to be one.

There is absolutely no way ... (Below threshold)
Lauren:

There is absolutely no way that she came up with this all on her own. She was definitely helped. I will be completely honest...I am almost 20 and I have never even heard of the word "paradigm" so, it seems highly impossible that a 7-year-old would know that word. She hasn't even lived long enough to form her own views of the world.

This all hurts. We all hur... (Below threshold)
Eniram:

This all hurts. We all hurt.

White/Black or Black/White we are all in a state of pain that none of us can begin to heal. I am not perfect, and no one else in this world is perfect either. We are all different. Christian, Muslim, Buddist, Asian, Black, White, Latino all different but the same. The same because we ALL feel pain. What hurts me is that everyone fails to realize that this "LITTLE" girl is not being a child.

If she wrote the word, it hurts me. If her father wrote the word, it hurts me. Children today have more access to things that they should not be able to understand. I am a parent of two beautiful girls and I don't shield them from the world, I explain what the world puts before them. I explain the pain and love of the world to them so that they may understand everything with an open mind. No, I don't live in a dream world, I live in a world where my understanding is that the children of today need to be children not adults in little bodies.

I have fought in conflicts in other lands, I have seen things that I would never wish on the eyes of my own enemies. In those times I saw pain as well. Pain that I don't want my children to feel. NO child should feel the pain of being labeled a racist!! NO child, white, black, asian or any race at that matter.

Racisim is real!! It does not matter what color you are. There are people in your racial group who are racist. Believe it and understand it!!!

RACISM - "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race" - www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=racism

No race is more superior than the other. None.

We, as a people (the human race) need to wake up and understand that there is a world out there that is painfully dying because we don't care. What about Ghandi, John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King who tried to make this world a better place to live in. WE NEED TO CARRY THAT STANDARD BANNER FURTHER.

"Spoken word is a form of music or artistic performance in which lyrics, poetry, or stories are spoken rather than sung" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoken_word.

It hurts that a liitle girl has to carry or was given a spoken word that causes this pain.

I challange all of you who read this, can you change the pain and make our children's spoken word a healing word.

Black Panther...I think you... (Below threshold)
Lauren:

Black Panther...I think you need to do a little more research. White people do not lack melanin...we only have less of it in our skin. The more you have, the darker your skin is. So, start looking things up more thoroughly before you try to state it as a fact.

http://www.suzy.co.nz/suzysworld/Factpage.asp?FactSheet=238

That's the link where you can discover the truth!

LIBERATE YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!... (Below threshold)
xavier aranda:

LIBERATE YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIBERATE YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIBERATE YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IAM GLAD I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE I LOVE HOW LIBRAL WE ARE AND HOW OPEN WE ARE TO GREAT THINGS AND NEW THINGS INSTEAD OF GETTING MAD AT A LITTLE GIRL THAT IS TELLING THE TRUITH WE SHOULD GET MAD AT A GOVORMENT THAT IS TELLING LIES

SAY THIS WITH ME

WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR
WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR
WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR

SAY THIS WITH ME

AN'T NOTHING LIKE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE DONT STOP SAY WHAT

AN'T NOTHING LIKE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE DONT STOP SAY WHAT


AN'T NOTHING LIKE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE DONT STOP SAY WHAT

AN'T NOTHING LIKE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE DONT STOP SAY WHAT

REMEMBER THIS

WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR
WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR
WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR

LIBERATE YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!... (Below threshold)
xavier aranda:

LIBERATE YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIBERATE YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIBERATE YOUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IAM GLAD I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE I LOVE HOW LIBRAL WE ARE AND HOW OPEN WE ARE TO GREAT THINGS AND NEW THINGS INSTEAD OF GETTING MAD AT A LITTLE GIRL THAT IS TELLING THE TRUITH WE SHOULD GET MAD AT A GOVORMENT THAT IS TELLING LIES

SAY THIS WITH ME

WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR
WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR
WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR

SAY THIS WITH ME

AN'T NOTHING LIKE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE DONT STOP SAY WHAT

AN'T NOTHING LIKE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE DONT STOP SAY WHAT


AN'T NOTHING LIKE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE DONT STOP SAY WHAT

AN'T NOTHING LIKE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE DONT STOP SAY WHAT

REMEMBER THIS

WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR
WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR
WE HAVE MONEY FOR WARS BUT WE CANT FEED THE POOR

XAVIER ARANDA CALIFORNIA

SIno Panther ,How ... (Below threshold)
dd:

SIno Panther ,

How do you feel about this
subject?

Do you think this was good
judgment on the fathers part.

Indiana

Do a little research on som... (Below threshold)
Black Panther:

Do a little research on something called...melanin. It's a chemical in the body that only white people lack. This chemical makes up the body's chemistry. Then tell me if you think we are all the same.

..sigh..Are you al... (Below threshold)
FLOMAN:

..sigh..

Are you all still here debating the poem
of a little 7 year old girl? Aw, come on
folks..surely the little girl has a lot
to learn in life..she's only 7!

I even read a 20 year old say on the blog
that he/she never heard the word "paradigm".
So what? That doesn't mean a 7 year old
may not know it means..gosh!

The knowledge you had 13 years ago [when
you were 7] is way different from what
kids like that little girl have today.
I wasn't even sure what paradigm meant
myself..and im way older than 20 - had
to think about it for a second, then
cross check @ dictionary.com..hehe! But
that didn't make me think little Autum
is too young to know what the word meant.

Let's think before we hit the keyboard.

Remember..SHE'S A little GIRL OF 7..she's
got ways to go and lots to learn in life
than the meaning of the word "paradigm".

Let us find more serious issues to
whine or rant about..like immigration
or the war in Iraq..

Who cares what white people... (Below threshold)
Marisa:

Who cares what white people have or don't have or what black people ahev or don't have. These type of "discoveries" is what forces us to believ that we are so different. Yes there are a vast majority of factors such as culture, colour, religion, etc...that make us all SEEM different; but when it comes down to it (and looking back on how similar some of these comments are, even for the ones who are putting others down for commenting) we are alll the same. I don't care if you have a ph.d, masters, or if you simply sit at home and scratch your ass, whether she wrote the poem or not is not the point. The point is she was obviously influenced, and if this influence has resulted in people being divided in this manner, then that influence was obviously negative. Racism is wrong no matter who it comes from or what form it takes. Selling people is wrong, no matter who sold who. Sure one can be proud of his or her own culture and stand up for the rights of his oor her own race, but to degrade someone else's culture or race is a different story.

I´m from Spain, EUROPE, (I ... (Below threshold)
Rodrigo:

I´m from Spain, EUROPE, (I put it in capital letters for some of those intelligent people in America that think Spain is part of Mexico), and I´m amazed about the anger and revenge feeling that is coming out from the so called "ethnic minorities" (which by the way are a vast majority in many cities,towns, hoods and villages all over Europe and America).

I´ve heard 1 million times how bad Columbus was, and how cruel us the Spaniards were, killing native Indians, trading with africans.... in conclusion, how evil are this white conquerors (and those europeans that came after to different parts of the world, i.e. the British),that have oppressed, raped and kill the poor but good and inocent native indians and africans.

Well, probably at the States you consider the Human/World History to begin just 500 years ago, when the bad and ugly spaniards came to kill everybody; but hey, let me remind you that the world and the Human race is much older than just 500 years; a lot has happened before that. Do I have to remind that Spain was conquered by the Moors (Arabs) for more than 600 years?? that the Spaniards were slaves at their own land??

So everybody and every country has had their own crap. But the important thing of all, is that there´s one big difference between us: The Spaniards had to fight for 100 years to free themselves from the Arabs, but the abolition of slavery in America and Europe was giving by the same people that ruled and had slaves at home. It was given because there was a feeling that slavery was a bad thing, not because the blacks or Natives started to fight. So It´s fair to say White people did that wrong; but it would also be all right to say that they had the commun sense and courage to admit it and end it.

We´re in year 2006. If you can´t get a job (any) is because you´re a lazy peace of sXXXt, not because your white, black, hispanic or wahtever.

Sorry for my english.

Rodrigo,It's ironi... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Rodrigo,

It's ironic to think that in the long struggle of the Spanish (European) people to free themselves from the invaders from Africa, that the culture of the Conquistadors was formed. The very culture that conquered the native peoples of Mexico, Peru, Central America and enslaved millions of Africans.

I wonder how different history might be if Africans had never invaded Europe? Would there have even been an African slave trade?

Rodrigo,Perhaps yo... (Below threshold)

Rodrigo,

Perhaps you could tell all of those young Spaniards who blame the the so-called "ethnic minorities" for their inability to land work the same thing, being:

"We´re in year 2006. If you can´t get a job (any) is because you´re a lazy peace of sXXXt, not because your white, black, hispanic or wahtever."

Your fellow young Spaniards are much akin to the pointing of the finger as well. Not to mention their affections for spitting out racial slurs.

Several friends who have NEVER encountered any racially-based hostility in the U.S. have been verbally AND physically attacked while visiting your country.

And one last thing: I have a job and realize how blessed I am to have one in this BUSH economy. Do not underestimate the influence of economics on the unemployed's ability to find work. Everyone is not lazy pieces of shyt. Your words were beyond arrogant and immature.

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Mac Lorry:
. . .INSTEAD OF GETTING MAD AT A LITTLE GIRL THAT IS TELLING THE TRUITH. . .

So you think racist remarks are ok as long as there's some truth to them.

What about a poem that tells the story of how blacks enslaved the children of Israel. How the African, Tariq ibn-Ziyad invaded Europe in 711. How in a 600 year struggle the brave Europeans threw off the black man's yoke. How that very struggle gave rise to the Conquistadors who then enslaved millions of Africans in an act of poetic justice.

I'm sure some closet KKK father could get his 7 year-old daughter to recite this truth in a public school in your community and have just the white kids stand for the delivery.

Are you liberal and open minded enough to embrace that truth?

If not, maybe you'll be able to wrap your open mind around the concept that racism is racism no matter who's mouth it comes out of.

Mac Lory -Where's ... (Below threshold)
Rachel:

Mac Lory -

Where's the racism in her poem? I disagree with her father's influence because of its negativity on the mind of a child. I do not think children should be manipulated for ANY cause. However, I am having problems finding the racism in her poem.

Therefore, what is it that you are saying is racist? BTW, I also don't see anything wrong with your suggestion for a poem... I find no racism in anything you wrote above.

Sorry, but I really cannot understand all the harping over the "r" word.

Someone, anyone, Bueler?

I think this little girl ha... (Below threshold)
TCB:

I think this little girl has a wonderful sense of reality. What she stated in her poem is true, and "people" are upset because she spoke God's honest truth. You don't see anyone complaining about the 2 whitesupremist teenages, who have several albums preaching about white being the superior race. Yet, since this is a young african american, she has to hold the title of being racist. Well if speaking the truth is racist, I will become racist too.

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wow. This little girl really stirred up some emotion. I am happy that the little girl has a sense of history. I think it is a bit mis-guided/distorted. If black children were actually taught about everything that happened to their people, from the mass sterilizations, the planned parenthood programs, the destruction of any independant infostructure (ie tulsa), stolen land, stolen heritage, the fact that schools today are more segregated than they were in 1964 when king was alive (http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0920/p13s01-bogn.html), that the percentage of blacks in poverty now is greater than any time in history (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/race/economics/analysis.html )

Now those of you who sing africa's praise should understand that europeans did not GO INTO AFRICA and STEAL AFRICANS. This is propaganda put out by the American afrocentrics. Africans sold their own people to the Europeans. It was originally small system that was used by the arabs mostly, but the Europeans came with much more of a demand, and the Africans accommadated. That is why to this day no african country will accept any so called african-american. (This includes Ghana too) you are not a citizen, you cannot directly own land, Wont issue you a passport, etc. Even Israel allows instant citizenship for any Jew.

Racisim exists, and is deadly. I blame the black Elders who understood racism and did not pass on their stories of lyncings, deaths, destruction to their childred...Black families have sheltered their children, not explaining the true history, and interactions with white people...but hiding it in the closet (only recently has the Tulsa oklahoma even came to light...it was removed from history by the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, as was ROSEWOOD and 100s of others that have no name yet....its the job of black Elders to tell the history). Now blacks are actually WORSE off then they were since 1960s because they trusted a system that they did not create nor are allowed to participate equally in (hence the term minority), and no one is talking about it. I am glad that this little girl is getting a conversation started. But dont blame "white people" or the "white system"...they may have capitalized on our ignorance, but they did not make us ignorant....

I just heard about this gir... (Below threshold)
None:

I just heard about this girl for the first time yesterday. I am African, was born in and grew up in Africa, but I go to school in North America as an international student and I've only been here for 2 years. My first reaction when I heard this story was shock, and then I was appalled that a parent would feed this to his child (there is no other logical explanation). Even if she knows words like "paradigm" at 7 the whole concept of black racism had to come from someone older didn't it? And if she heard about her history and reacted with bitterness it was his RESPONSIBILITY to correct her because no one should harbour such a feeling at that age. Also, I for one wouldn't want my seven-year old child to know the meaning of the word "rape" at an age so young (she used the word in an interview with a reporter, to be specific, that Columbus, Darwin and Morgan raped and pillaged her people)-it's almost as if she has lost her childhood completely. The fact that her father has condoned this shows he agrees, so you can't tell me he had nothing to do with this. Racism is still rampant today, but it isn't only against blacks. There are stereotypes against whites, hispanics, arabs (even stereotypes are some form of passive racism)etc. and there is no denying that this may be coming from experience, but that's a whole different story. If this poem was purely her work and had nothing to do with her father I ask you this: What was she trying to accomplish? Because this poem sure as hell didn't help anyone. If she thought it would create some awareness about mistreatment of blacks, she didn't do it very well. She went to a school, a MULTICULTURAL school, and actually told non-black students to sit down while she read a poem that would have made them feel guilty for something their ancestors did years ago-that in my opinion is the kind of thing that creates racism.
I find that some African-Americans (and note that I stress the word "some") tend to complain about not fitting in and being mistreated and all. No one is disputing that, but it is done by individuals (and so generalizing is insulting to non-racists) who still have some outdated notion. Now are you going to let these people stop you from being the best you can be? Instead of complaining about your past, embrace your history. Accept that YES your ANCESTORS were sold into slavery BY AFRICANS-VERY TRUE BY THE WAY. In some cases you may have been kidnapped by non Africans (I don't know). It's all part of what makes African -Americans African -Americans. And all this talk about wanting to go back to Africa...I'm from Africa, and let me tell you that colour is just that (colour) because from what I've seen your lifestyle and culture is closer to American than to African cultures. If you ask me it's a little far-fetched to travel back and pick up where you left off some decades ago. It's way easier-and satisfying I think- to stand up and say "I am American, with a slightly different history from European Americans only because my ancestors arrived as slaves on boats. It doesn't make a difference now though because that was in the past. I can go into the world and be great with the help of other Americans (white, black, hispanic, whatever)." Even if you come across racists it shouldn't stop you because there are other people who aren't and will appreciate you for what you are. Also, if you go about expecting to be treated differently, the slightest snub or aberration you come across will seem like racism to you even if it isn't. Your other alternative is to keep complaining but if you complain like this you'll be complaining all your life and -get this - it won't make a difference to the people you're complaining about. Sure there's been prejudice against African-Americans but you're not the only ones. I am Nigerian and this means that if I want to leave West Africa I have to get in a long-ass line and ask for a visa. I have to produce papers that show I have enough money to support myself and I have to produce proof that I'm not running away from my country looking for a "better life". And all of this is before I actually GET into the country. I t also means that in light of what has happened over the past few years an innocent middle eastern person may be looked at with some form of wariness, so yea you're not the worst off people in the world. And even with this I would personally smack a Nigerian child who wrote things like this and thought she was actually doing some good (I read another poem she wrote out of curiosity.." Even in my fucking soup"?... is that kid really 7? If that's what they are teaching her at home, then something's wrong somewhere and the kind of "education" she's receiving at home needs to be looked into). This is a child who -from what I can see-is not prostrate with hunger and poverty and instead of making the best of her opportunities, she pulls a stunt like this. When Rosa Parks wanted to make her point she didn't take to the streets ranting and raving about injustice. She sat on that bus to prove that nothing made her inferior because of the colour of her skin. Twenty-four hours later I still don't see what this girl's point was (reciting her history? We all know it. We've heard it for years)
I don't remember who asked the question about the standard of living in Africa. The general (and long-assumed) notion that we carry spears and run around on trees is something that amazes me (and I'm not referring to you specifically-at least I hope you don't think this way). Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or just walk away when someone asks me how I can speak English (and to be fair I guess a lot of documentaries portray the whole of Africa as tree jumping, naked monkeys who will forever be illiterate). I suppose this is why people can afford to say things like "send black people back to Africa and see what becomes of them" (not exactly in those words). Yes Africans are poor. Africa is poor because although we have a LOT of resources the people in power hold on to it so the money never filters down. The result is that you have the very rich (so yea, some people actually live well in Africa, surprise, we have high rise buildings and banks and hotels and swimming pools too) and then the very poor. There are relatively few members of the middle class, as opposed to America where the middle class is the majority. The very poor Africa is what you see in the media. My point is just that even though Africa has a lot of problems we are as human as everyone else and are certainly not as ignorant as people seem to think we are. In addition to the numerous exams I took in high school for post-secondary education we also took your SAT 1 and 2 and Cambridge (for anyone who doesn't know Cambridge is required for anyone who wants to do post-secondary studies in Britain) and we only had Kaplan and Prentice Hall books to study for the exams, meaning that we never formally prepared for them, and a lot of us did very well - Africans in good schools in the states are there because they passed the same exams Americans did. I think some people would therefore understand why I find the insinuation that we are spear-wielding backward degenerates rather insulting. That being said, I think it's a shame that the ignorance of a misguided 7 year old has reduced older and more mature people to trading insults across the web and making disturbing posts about killing and death. (I know this doesn't apply to every single person who has ventured an opinion).
Oh (I don't remember who said this, this whole thing was really long so it's exhausting going back to look for specific names), I know that some African -Americans like to give children names with African origin. If that's the case here the name "Ashante" (and "Ashanti" based on what I know of that particular artist's life story) would have originated from the word "Asante", a people in Ghana. It means something to people, just as I'm sure your own name has a meaning, so they don't just "get these names" from nowhere - although I am of the opinion that if you're going to name someone after something you may as well do it properly

I sure thought the material... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

I sure thought the material for another TRUE poem was over the top. Silly me. Here it is again so you don't have to scroll.

What about a poem that tells the story of how blacks enslaved the children of Israel. How the African, Tariq ibn-Ziyad invaded Europe in 711. How in a 600 year struggle the brave Europeans threw off the black man's yoke. How that very struggle gave rise to the Conquistadors who then enslaved millions of Africans in an act of poetic justice.

Rachel wrote,

I also don't see anything wrong with your suggestion for a poem... I find no racism in anything you wrote above.

TCB wrote,

Well if speaking the truth is racist, I will become racist too.

That blows me away. So blaming blacks for slavery isn't racist. Well I have to add some more lines then. Let me know when you think the material for this poem reaches the threshold of racism.

One drop of black blood makes a man black, so after 600 years of mixing with their African conquers the Conquistadors and Columbus were black.

So all the atrocities of the Spanish Conquistadors and Columbus himself can be blamed on blacks. Am I there yet?

Looking in a mirror an American black sees a descendent of the long dead slave master they call great great great grand dad.

The very blacks complaining about white racism are the decedents of the actual white slave masters. Of course it's all true, so in can be racist, right? Be careful how you answer, you wouldn't want any poetic closet KKK types to get ideas.

History, that´s what´s all ... (Below threshold)
Rodrigo:

History, that´s what´s all about. What can´t be done is to use history the way we want, select only some periods in time and then erase or ignore what we don´t like to hear.

But what´s even worse is to justify our nonsense angers or our situation in life by blaming others for what have happened several years ago.

You don´t hear Jews talking about the SS, Hitler or the 3rd Reich everytime... no, this people moved quickly away from the 30´s and nowadays are owners of business all over the world.

You don´t hear us the Spaniards blaming on the African occupation we´ve had or when France invaded us leaving us poor to the bone, or when the Brits whiped our asses out at the Trafalgar war.

What I´m trying to say is that all civilisations had to start from new one time or the other.

Nowadays, in 2006, most of African countries are rouled by black leaders. Do you think they´re poor?? No. They´re the richest leaders of the world. The wealthiest economies are ruled by Ministers, kings... of the poor black continent; I.E: King Mohhamed VI from Moroco, Teodoro Obiang from Equatorial Guinea,Obasanjo from Nigeria, the Sudanese "Jeque" (were one can buy a person for 100 USD)... and the list goes on and on. And how come than been the richest they´re people are the poorest? you don´t need a degree to know the answer: cause they don´t give a damn about "their people" and about slavery and all that.

On the other hand, and because of the sense of historical guiltiness that all the white governemets from all over the 1st world countries have, seem to have the need of condoning debts to those countries, feed the ilegal inmigrants that come to our beaches in boats (300 a day in the south coast of Spain)... and all because their governements don´t give a damn about them. They just think that is our obligation to do that because we´re Europeans (or Americans...).

Why not writing a poem about "BLACK DICTATORS AND HOW THEY LET THEIR PEOPLE DIE ON THE SEA TRYING TO REACH EUROPE WHILE THEY GET FATER AND RICHER??!! That would be great. A little long as a title but a great topic. You could even make a controversial rap song about it.

I hope one day us Europeans (and when I say Europeans I mean also white Americans) will be free of taking the blame for everything that happens to others.

Sorry again for my English.

PC: Agree with u Mac

Mac -What you do n... (Below threshold)
Rachel:

Mac -

What you do not seem to understand is that some things may not be pretty; some things may not sound too pleasing, and some things might sting a bit (eg the truth), but none of the aformentioned makes said things racist.

I am sorry that you cannot seem to understand, but what you wrote does not qualify as racist. Some things (not at all referring to your 'poem' suggestions) are the truth. Do I need to cut and paste the defintion of the word racism in this box for you???

Also, 'one drop of black blood makes a man black' is not a fact, it was a notion created by whites. And we all know that Columbus did not lead the life of a black man. So, based on these facts, I would just call your poem stupid. It still would not be classified as racist.

Also, I do not know who you were quoting above, but I do not know any black person who looks in the mirror and sees a slave master. Give me a break and stop applying mass generalizations to an entire race of people.

I do not know if the average person on this board realizes this, but racism is instutional and can only be inflicted by those with some level of power - in the real form. What power does this little girl have to deny you of anything?? I think the word you SHOULD be using is 'discrimination,' which is still a stretch.

Lastly, you still have not pointed out to me how the little girl's poem was racist. Please refer to the dictionary, refer to her poem again and find me one racist line...

Rodrigo,"You don´t... (Below threshold)
Rachel:

Rodrigo,

"You don´t hear us the Spaniards blaming on the African occupation we´ve had..."

You're right...they do not blame the African population your country has had in the past, because they blame the 'ethnic minority' population that exists NOW!

BTW, I always love how so many Europeans/whites are quick to toss in little racially-charged jabs ("they can even right a controversial rap song about it") when they get mad. LOL @ YOU, RODRIGO!

I bet you think all black people listen to rap and like gold teeth and eat fried chicken. You probably think we all are on welfare and sit around blaming 'the white man' too.

Little do you know how much the joke is on you. As I said before: Tell the young Spaniards to stop blaming the minorities for their lack of jobs. Oh, and be sure to call them lazy pieces of shyt like you did when referring to black Americans. I wouldn't want to have erroneously label you racist...

if this was a teenager or a... (Below threshold)
slim:

if this was a teenager or a adult it would not be a problem poems like that have been around for years, it comes from years of rage that african americans has built up from the abuse and torment that has been placed upon them. we as american people focus on the wrong things, this poem was not worthy of mention, f you are offended by it get a life, worry about your life, focus on your life, our society cares to much about everyone else and what the latest news or gossip is. it is really sad, and i am ashamed. we would rather read about negative issues, than positive ones.

Both white and black people... (Below threshold)
Gerald:

Both white and black people are guilty of sin and crimes against eachother and humanity in general. No doubt the little girl knows what paradigm means, people like jesse jackson and sharpten are just strengthening steriotypes about black people. yes europeans and the first american generation commited a heinis crime no matter who took part in selling or buying slaves. the little girl can say whatever she wants and her daddy. personally as a black person im not gonna let one poem speak for me or any other black leader alive TODAY. I think african americans should stop living in the past. even worse stop excluding our selves from other races. yeah we're all different but damn, do you need to infasize that? everybody gets cheated not just any specific race. thats like only listening to one side of a story and making assumptions about the other.

Its funny growing up down south i had alot of friends both black white, asian and latino. My mom and dad are from west africa and I was born in tulsa Oklahoma. my mom ment well in instiling in me identity and knowing where i came from. my dad on the other hand felt it was important that my brothers and i had friends no matter what background they came from.

point is i didnt realize what rascism was untill the age of 10 and new very much what "the score" was but didnt care. my best triumph over life at that age was having friends of all different colors.

when junior high kicked in it was a different story. I lost all ambition to be around different people to most of my black friends at school doing well and socializing with another race to them ment you were weak and acting "white".

as a musician and a music lover it became even harder for me growing up because of the different genres i listened to from blind melon, to depeche mode, nas, OMd, public enemy for an example.

I feel sorry for that kid she has no choice up to this point as to what her mind is open to, she's only getting one veiw of the world thatll lead to paranoia and alienation from a melting pot of different culture.

Rachel,Al... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Rachel,

Also, 'one drop of black blood makes a man black' is not a fact, it was a notion created by whites.

Originally that was true, but now with affirmative action benefit being awarded to minorities, it's the minorities who are using the rule. Here's one example.

In other instances, such as the 1988 Denver case of schoolteacher Mary Walker - a person of fair complexion, green eyes, light brown hair, and no documented Black ancestry - courts have ordered employers to accept claimants as Black for EEOC purposes.

It doesn't always work out that way, but the one drop rule is still used in the U.S. You can read more about it here.

I do not know any black person who looks in the mirror and sees a slave master.

Apparently you don't know many African-Americans. Here's a small slice for a scientific study by molecular anthropologist Mark D. Shriver.

Earlier, cruder studies, done before direct genetic testing was feasible, suggested that African-Americans were 25 or even 30 percent white. Shriver's project is not complete, but with data from 25 sites already in, he is coming up with 17-18 percent white ancestry among African-Americans. That's the equivalent of 106 of those 128 of your ancestors from seven generations ago having been Africans and 22 Europeans.

17-18 percent is that's the average, but "According to Shriver, only about 10 percent of African-Americans are over 50 percent white." Get that, 1 out of 10 blacks in the U.S. is more white than black.

The "one drop rule" is now being used by blacks to obtain benefits, so it's still relevant even if it was never scientific. The average black in the U.S. has 22 of their ancestors from seven generations ago who were white, and those white ancestors are most likely slave masters. When U.S. blacks look in the mirror they are seeing a descendent of the actual slave masters. Maybe that's more truth than you can handle.

but racism is instutional and can only be inflicted by those with some level of power

That's PC nonsense fed to the MSM to excuse personal racism. Here's the dictionary definition.

1) prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races. 2) the belief that people of different races have different qualities and abilities, and that some races are inherently superior or inferior.

Nothing about requiring power or being intuitional. Certainly you can see that Autumn Ashante's poem is full of animosity against white people, and that makes it racist.

I am so sick of this Africa... (Below threshold)
Maggie:

I am so sick of this African-American bull shit. Vampires??? This little girl needs to ger bit in her ass by a Vampire then she'll really understand. God Bless her and that crazy father of hers.

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mjackson:

now why is it that when a young black 7 year old writes a poem that actually means something it has to cause such an uproar, but when a young white boy writes a novel you praise his intelligence? Do you not think he had help in doing that? i am sure you all did not but Autumn can't be a smart child all because you say so?

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terry:

i think that your all racist dumbasses come on a 7year old"prodagy"come on please you poepe are dumb and eric give it up ou dont even know how to judge poeple you just say crao after crap ok listen im white but im not raceist im tellin you fools come on leave her alone so what she is racist just for that you have gane and started this thing about what a little girl with a gift of poetry and let me know how you think about this i dare ya i will even give you my e-mail its [email protected] im all ways on so give me your racial opions.racist i hate you poeple accept laura.

i think that your all racis... (Below threshold)
terry:

i think that your all racist dumbasses come on a 7year old"prodagy"come on please you poepe are dumb and eric give it up ou dont even know how to judge poeple you just say crap after crap ok listen im white but im not raceist im tellin you fools come on leave her alone so what she is racist just for that you have gane and started this thing about what a little girl with a gift of poetry and let me know how you think about this i dare ya i will even give you my e-mail its [email protected] im all ways on so give me your racial opions.racist i hate you poeple accept laura.

i think that your all racis... (Below threshold)
terry:

i think that your all racist dumbasses come on a 7year old"prodagy"come on please you poepe are dumb and eric give it up ou dont even know how to judge poeple you just say crap after crap ok listen im white but im not raceist im tellin you fools come on leave her alone so what she is racist just for that you have gone and started this thing about what a little girl with a gift of poetry and let me know how you think about this i dare ya i will even give you my e-mail its [email protected] im all ways on so give me your racial opions.racist i hate you poeple accept laura.

Mac Lory - "Appare... (Below threshold)

Mac Lory -

"Apparently you don't know many African-Americans. Here's a small slice for a scientific study by molecular anthropologist Mark D. Shriver."

Really? I don't...wow! That's funny b/c I've been black for 29 years.

I do not need an Anthropologist to tell me how the larger black community thinks. Like I said: I DO NOT KNOW ANY BLACK PERSON WHO LOOKS IN THE MIRROR AND THINKS ABOUT THEIR ANCESTOR'S SLAVE MASTER.

I did not state that blacks do not contain white DNA (if there is such a thing); I said we do not look in the mirror and think of the "oppressor" genes running through our veins.

Please. White people who think as yourself deem yourselves too important in the minds of ALL black people. As I said in a previous post, there are MANY black folks who work alongside all of you in Corporate America everyday and the last thing on our minds is slaves and racist white folks.

People like yourself continually try and place all black people in the same whiny about racism, lazy, welfare candidate box b/c doing so allows you to feel less threatened. You just cannot allow yourselves to acknowledge the fact that there are SO many of us making gains on you.

Suits me just fine. Just keep thinking all blacks are whiny with our hands out for help from white people, and I'll keep working hard to take your front-office job. Then you can turn around and blame what I've achieved - and what your you have failed to accomplish - on Affirmative Action, better known to your kind as reversed discrimation.

Sorry, a child having animosity toward an entire group does not qualify as racism. It qualifies as hatred. And I do recall her poem speaking of the past atrocities at the hands of white conquerors...don't recall her saying she hates all white people today.

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To Maggie:

"I am so sick of this African-American bull shit. Vampires??? This little girl needs to ger bit in her ass by a Vampire then she'll really understand. God Bless her and that crazy father of hers."

Are you really a person of God??? I don't recall God telling anyone to conquer hatred with hatred. Also, how did her words become representative of an entire race's "bullshyt?"

I tell you: every time you lump us in one negative category without even bothering to qualify the element - in this case being one little girl and her father - you are showing how you feel about our entire race of people. And the more you do this, the more you justify the argument of some blacks that racism is still alive and well.

Way to fuel the fire! Bravo!

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FLOMAN:

TO MAC LORRY:

You try to sound factual but as a keen observer/reader of your commentary, I
can't help but sense that you are
somewhat biased in your comments.

Really, what is your stand on this issue?
- on the issue of the prose of a little girl
of 7?

Since you are one of those who advocated for 'African-Africans' like me in the
house to 'educate' African-Americans on
life in Africa [like Africa was unlivable],
I will ask that you read what another
African from NIGERIA said on the blog on
this issue. I think it's an eagle's eye
view of the issue from someone who's
learned because he stepped outside his
cocoon. There is really a lot to learn
from his simple words - better than all
the re-writing of history that many here
have resorted to.

Enjoy:

I just heard about this girl for the first time yesterday. I am African, was born in and grew up in Africa, but I go to school in North America as an international student and I've only been here for 2 years. My first reaction when I heard this story was shock, and then I was appalled that a parent would feed this to his child (there is no other logical explanation). Even if she knows words like "paradigm" at 7 the whole concept of black racism had to come from someone older didn't it? And if she heard about her history and reacted with bitterness it was his RESPONSIBILITY to correct her because no one should harbour such a feeling at that age. Also, I for one wouldn't want my seven-year old child to know the meaning of the word "rape" at an age so young (she used the word in an interview with a reporter, to be specific, that Columbus, Darwin and Morgan raped and pillaged her people)-it's almost as if she has lost her childhood completely. The fact that her father has condoned this shows he agrees, so you can't tell me he had nothing to do with this. Racism is still rampant today, but it isn't only against blacks. There are stereotypes against whites, hispanics, arabs (even stereotypes are some form of passive racism)etc. and there is no denying that this may be coming from experience, but that's a whole different story. If this poem was purely her work and had nothing to do with her father I ask you this: What was she trying to accomplish? Because this poem sure as hell didn't help anyone. If she thought it would create some awareness about mistreatment of blacks, she didn't do it very well. She went to a school, a MULTICULTURAL school, and actually told non-black students to sit down while she read a poem that would have made them feel guilty for something their ancestors did years ago-that in my opinion is the kind of thing that creates racism.
I find that some African-Americans (and note that I stress the word "some") tend to complain about not fitting in and being mistreated and all. No one is disputing that, but it is done by individuals (and so generalizing is insulting to non-racists) who still have some outdated notion. Now are you going to let these people stop you from being the best you can be? Instead of complaining about your past, embrace your history. Accept that YES your ANCESTORS were sold into slavery BY AFRICANS-VERY TRUE BY THE WAY. In some cases you may have been kidnapped by non Africans (I don't know). It's all part of what makes African -Americans African -Americans. And all this talk about wanting to go back to Africa...I'm from Africa, and let me tell you that colour is just that (colour) because from what I've seen your lifestyle and culture is closer to American than to African cultures. If you ask me it's a little far-fetched to travel back and pick up where you left off some decades ago. It's way easier-and satisfying I think- to stand up and say "I am American, with a slightly different history from European Americans only because my ancestors arrived as slaves on boats. It doesn't make a difference now though because that was in the past. I can go into the world and be great with the help of other Americans (white, black, hispanic, whatever)." Even if you come across racists it shouldn't stop you because there are other people who aren't and will appreciate you for what you are. Also, if you go about expecting to be treated differently, the slightest snub or aberration you come across will seem like racism to you even if it isn't. Your other alternative is to keep complaining but if you complain like this you'll be complaining all your life and -get this - it won't make a difference to the people you're complaining about. Sure there's been prejudice against African-Americans but you're not the only ones. I am Nigerian and this means that if I want to leave West Africa I have to get in a long-ass line and ask for a visa. I have to produce papers that show I have enough money to support myself and I have to produce proof that I'm not running away from my country looking for a "better life". And all of this is before I actually GET into the country. I t also means that in light of what has happened over the past few years an innocent middle eastern person may be looked at with some form of wariness, so yea you're not the worst off people in the world. And even with this I would personally smack a Nigerian child who wrote things like this and thought she was actually doing some good (I read another poem she wrote out of curiosity.." Even in my fucking soup"?... is that kid really 7? If that's what they are teaching her at home, then something's wrong somewhere and the kind of "education" she's receiving at home needs to be looked into). This is a child who -from what I can see-is not prostrate with hunger and poverty and instead of making the best of her opportunities, she pulls a stunt like this. When Rosa Parks wanted to make her point she didn't take to the streets ranting and raving about injustice. She sat on that bus to prove that nothing made her inferior because of the colour of her skin. Twenty-four hours later I still don't see what this girl's point was (reciting her history? We all know it. We've heard it for years)
I don't remember who asked the question about the standard of living in Africa. The general (and long-assumed) notion that we carry spears and run around on trees is something that amazes me (and I'm not referring to you specifically-at least I hope you don't think this way). Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or just walk away when someone asks me how I can speak English (and to be fair I guess a lot of documentaries portray the whole of Africa as tree jumping, naked monkeys who will forever be illiterate). I suppose this is why people can afford to say things like "send black people back to Africa and see what becomes of them" (not exactly in those words). Yes Africans are poor. Africa is poor because although we have a LOT of resources the people in power hold on to it so the money never filters down. The result is that you have the very rich (so yea, some people actually live well in Africa, surprise, we have high rise buildings and banks and hotels and swimming pools too) and then the very poor. There are relatively few members of the middle class, as opposed to America where the middle class is the majority. The very poor Africa is what you see in the media. My point is just that even though Africa has a lot of problems we are as human as everyone else and are certainly not as ignorant as people seem to think we are. In addition to the numerous exams I took in high school for post-secondary education we also took your SAT 1 and 2 and Cambridge (for anyone who doesn't know Cambridge is required for anyone who wants to do post-secondary studies in Britain) and we only had Kaplan and Prentice Hall books to study for the exams, meaning that we never formally prepared for them, and a lot of us did very well - Africans in good schools in the states are there because they passed the same exams Americans did. I think some people would therefore understand why I find the insinuation that we are spear-wielding backward degenerates rather insulting. That being said, I think it's a shame that the ignorance of a misguided 7 year old has reduced older and more mature people to trading insults across the web and making disturbing posts about killing and death. (I know this doesn't apply to every single person who has ventured an opinion).
Oh (I don't remember who said this, this whole thing was really long so it's exhausting going back to look for specific names), I know that some African -Americans like to give children names with African origin. If that's the case here the name "Ashante" (and "Ashanti" based on what I know of that particular artist's life story) would have originated from the word "Asante", a people in Ghana. It means something to people, just as I'm sure your own name has a meaning, so they don't just "get these names" from nowhere - although I am of the opinion that if you're going to name someone after something you may as well do it properly

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Mac Lorry:

Rachel,

Many have said that Autumn Ashante's poem is not racist because it's the truth. My point, least it get lost, is that the "truth" doesn't mean that a poem isn't racist and I offered several examples of "truth" that I thought others would find racist, and thereby dispel the idea that "truth" immunizes Autumn Ashante's poem from the charge that it's racist. For one item I wrote the following.

Looking in a mirror an American black sees a descendent of the long dead slave master they call great great great grand dad.

Rachel - If you had said that statement was racist, I would have agreed with you and said that logic now dictates you find Autumn Ashante's poem racist. Instead, in your reply to me you said

but I do not know any black person who looks in the mirror and sees a slave master.

Of course I didn't say they would see a slave master. I said they would see a "descendent" of slave master. Being that you were replying directly to me by name it was fair to assume you were referring to what I said, rather than what I didn't say.

When I linked to a scientific study that proves the average African-American is 17-18 percent white you wrote the following.

I DO NOT KNOW ANY BLACK PERSON WHO LOOKS IN THE MIRROR AND THINKS ABOUT THEIR ANCESTOR'S SLAVE MASTER.

While I'm sure that's true, that's not what I said. When an African-American looks in the mirror they see themselves. That image is likely of a descendent of a slave master. The scientific tests prove most African-Americans have white ancestors and one or more of them are almost assuredly slave masters. My statement is the truth, at least as true as anything in Autumn Ashante's poem. It's a terrible statement and I'm sorry if it causes you distress, but my purpose is to show you how this kind of "truth" can be racist. When you defend Autumn Ashante's poem because it's the "truth" this is the kind of hate you are giving your support to.

Please. White people who think as yourself deem yourselves too important in the minds of ALL black people.

You have embarrassed yourself completely. I never said I was white. Do you think a black person can't use logic and reason in their arguments, or is it my google skills? Maybe you think no black person could have ideas so different than yours. What ignorance.

People like yourself continually try and place all black people in the same whiny about racism, lazy, welfare candidate box b/c doing so allows you to feel less threatened.

What I have said is the same as FLOMAN and None. Two who have identified themselves as African-Africans, blacks with no white ancestors. Blacks who have lived in Africa and wonder why African-Americans don't just forget about the sins of the long dead. At least that's how I take their statements, but you can read them for yourself.

Sorry, a child having animosity toward an entire group does not qualify as racism.

But it was you who suggested using the dictionary meaning of racism. Here's what you wrote.

Please refer to the dictionary, refer to her poem again and find me one racist line...

There are lots of variations in the definition of racism , but you can find this one here. "Racism practices and attitudes that display dislike or antagonism towards people seen as belonging to particular ethnic groups. Social significance is attached to culturally constructed ideas of difference."

From the above dictionary definition it's quite obvious that this sentence from the poem qualifies as racism "White nationalism is what put you in bondage Pirate and vampires like Columbus, Morgan, and Darwin Drank the blood of the sheep, trampled all over them with Steel, tricks and deceit."

I do wish you well and you probably already surpassed my accompaniments in this society. Just remember racism is wrong. It matters not a bit the race, age, or gender of the person who expresses it. If you tolerate it anywhere it won't be long and it will be everywhere.

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Mac Lorry:

FLOMAN,

I did read the post by "None' when first posted. Recent immigrants (not that None is an imminent) do better financially in America than native born Americans and I believe that's true for all races. The kind of people who are willing to leave their homeland and come to a foreign country seem to be individuals who don't let hardships and adversity stop them from working toward their goals. It's that spirit that made America great and still defines this nation. However, it's a spirit that's hard to keep alive. It's much easier to fail if you have an excuse to fail that puts the blame on someone else. You can see why such individuals become hostile when anyone tries to tell them that success or failure is their responsibility and no one else's.

I can't help but sense that you are somewhat biased in your comments.

Yes I'm biased. Not by someone's race, but by people who talk about the "truth" of the excuse they use to blame the long dead for their problems. These people are blind to the truth that you, None and others have been telling them for years. Forgive the long dead and take responsibility for your own life. As you said "free the mind".

you all are stupid its A 7 ... (Below threshold)
terry:

you all are stupid its A 7 YEAR OLD GIRL SHE WILL FORGET ABOUT THIS IN HER OLD AGE EVENTUALLY. ALSO THIS IS TO MAC LORY I think your right about slavery and im white and i could care less about my ancestors past as long as they apologized to there slave and or slaves also why make this about a girl come on she is7 years old you racail iditos besisdes mac lory and laura and poeple whom agree with me!!!!!! MAKE THIS ABOUT THE WAR OR SOME THIG ELSE IM GETTING MESSAGES FROM POEPLE LIKE WANNA FIND WERE SHE LIVES AND WANNA KILL HER.(name and address in held for persons safety.)

Mac Lorry -You are... (Below threshold)
Rachel:

Mac Lorry -

You are not understanding my comments at all. So, I am finished with the replies. However, I will say that your comments about a black person looking in the mirror and seeing the descendant of a slave aren't true. Sorry, but if we all had slave mentalilities - the mentalities of victims that you are obviously trying to get at - then we'd all be ignorant and on public assistance.

Also, how arrogant of you to think that you are educating me on the fact that blacks have white blood. Uh, DUH. When did you learn that...in college? The white blood in my family line comes from Alabama, by way of Germany. Ooh, ahh...sorry, but it's not distressing. I don't know black folks who get stressed out about some white blood. That would be another group's families...

BTW, you do not have to state your race for me to know that you are not black. I know that you are not black for one simple reason: you cannot properly qualify a racist event. For instance, you keep trying to qualify your comments as racist, e.g.

"Looking in a mirror an American black sees a descendent of the long dead slave master they call great great great grand dad. "

Again, that is not a racist comment. Your lack of understanding of such things gave you away your non-black status a looooong time ago...

For such supposedly intelligent people, you guys play very stupid games on this site.

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Rodrigo:

Since I´ve got a 6 hour difference from the rest i´ve seen the messages one day after:

Rachel:

OK, I´ll answer to you and maybe you´ll understand why you found that reaction from certain (only a few I hope) Spanish people.

In Spain, like in most countries, there´re also idiots and ignorants in some specific areas; just like I would find if I went to N.Y. or L.A. but there is a slight difference my friend: You got to understand that nowadays we have 300 black africans coming by boat every single day to our coasts. Some villages and towns from the south are litterally been taken, while the main cities are full of ghettos (small villages within the city), formed by africans;that´s a fact.

Not only that, but Morocans come hidden in cars and trucks in more or less the same quantity as the sub-saharian africans.

There are certain towns were there are thousands of africans (mostly Ghanaian, Nigerian and Senegalese) sleeping in camps at the outside of the city center, that during the day come dowtown to see what they can get. So please understand that some of this people have the right to be at least "confused" when they see a group of black people.

Do you understand how it feels like to go to any park, or industrial place and find 100 teenage nude nigerian prostitutes working there? and do you know who exploits them?? their own family, their own people, that by the way are making large amounts of money.

In Spain we´ve been inmigrants just untill the late 60´s, and we´ve been a poor country till the late 80´s so we were not used to have people coming in the way it´s happening now. So please understand some reactions.

And hey, totally agree with you Raquel, all the spanish people who blame inmigrants for not getting a job are a bunch of little pieces of shit; You know why? cause all of the illegal inmigrants we have do not have "Jobs".They didn´t come here to earn 1.200 Eur working 12 Hours a day, No SIr.


Rachel,Yo... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Rachel,

You are not understanding my comments at all. So, I am finished with the replies.

I understand your comments all too well, and you're free to retreat from the discussion at any time. You wouldn't be the first.

However, I will say that your comments about a black person looking in the mirror and seeing the descendant of a slave aren't true.

It is true, but you keep weaving and bobbing to escape the truth. You keep bringing up what someone thinks, but I never said anything about what they think or their mentality, but only what they SEE in the mirror. Unless your're one of those vampires in Autumn Ashante's poem you SEE an image of yourself in the mirror. Are you really that dense that you don't understand the difference between what you see and what you think about what you see?

The white blood in my family line comes from Alabama, by way of Germany.

Another dodge of the truth. I'm not addressing YOUR ancestry in particular, just as Autumn Ashante's poem is not addressing a specific white person, most of whom are not decedents of Columbus, Morgan, or Darwin. It's obvious you are distressed by the knowledge that most African-Americans are the decedents of slave masters. Otherwise, you wouldn't be weaving and dodging so hard to escape the simple and provable truth.

What African-Americans think about the FACT that most of them are decedents of slave masters in no way changes that truth. That may not apply to you, but that doesn't change the FACT that most African-Americans are decedents of slave masters. Likely most of your African-Americans friends are decedents of slave masters. Likely most of the white people you know are NOT decedents of slave masters, because the vast majority of whites immigrated to America after the civil war. That shows the stupidity of blaming someone for the crimes of the past because of their race, and that shows how stupid Autumn Ashante's poem is.

BTW, you do not have to state your race for me to know that you are not black. I know that you are not black for one simple reason: you cannot properly qualify a racist event.

So according to Rachel anyone who finds the following statement racist is not black. "Looking in a mirror an American black sees a descendent of the long dead slave master they call great great great grand dad."

We can test your theory by posting that statement to some other blogs and seeing the reaction. I'm not going to do it, but some others might try it and report the results.

For such supposedly intelligent people, you guys play very stupid games on this site.

It's you who tired to assign me to a race in order to fit me into your myopic stereotypical views. Well I don't fit your stereotypes and you only show your prejudice, arrogance and ignorance by your need to stereotype people.

Does Mac Lorry and Floman h... (Below threshold)
none of your business:

Does Mac Lorry and Floman have some kind of gay relationship going on here? Are you on the down low? Is there a pedophile on this site? I have never heard a man praise another man so much before stop acting like little bitches! you need hormone pills to increase the masculinity

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FLOMAN:

TO 'NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS':

You should live up to your NOYB credo.

"..gay relationhip"?
"..pedophile"?

Err..hehe! That cracked me up pal. I see in you another case of an individual who feels the need to erase his doubts about his/her wierdness by staining others - cowardice at its peak.

Mac [whoever he is] and I have been able to maintain civility even while we seem to have different opinions - now I doubt if you can match that. It's obvious from your words.

Perhaps YOU should acknowledge your closet problems [pedophilia?] and seek help rather than paint decent strangers like myself of what have you.

Be good.

Eeeny meeny miney moes<br /... (Below threshold)
G.C.:

Eeeny meeny miney moes
Tweak the white girl's long sharp nose!
If she shouts racism say there again she goes!
Meena Meena miney poes!

DO you poeple not understan... (Below threshold)
terry:

DO you poeple not understand she is little this is her dream and we have now turned her into a human disaster jesus poeple you have no tolorance she is little oh just because she has her own opinion of somethings in life you judge her for that and how old ar you poeple come on cut the umbilical cord get a life and leave her alone.also mac get a fucking life nobody likes you GO AWAY!!!!!!!

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FLOMAN:

Gee, Terry..

You are throwing fits and tantrums worse than any of the people you are trying to set straight here don't you think?

I'd say get rid of the biblical LOG in your eye before you help others with theirs..

Give it a thought, Chum ;-)

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FLOMAN:

And so it came to pass..
That a little girl of seven
Referenced her ancestors' past
On a rather poetic level
But her words drew rants
Like "racist little devil"

And so it came to pass..
That the little girl's dish
Is critiqued by a whole class
Of adults with BA in English
So I have myself a laugh
For that's just foolish

Let it come to pass..
That little Autum grows up
To be a fine young lass
With her own adult thought
Free of hate passed
From others on her way up

Let it come to pass..
That people get occupied
Find other stuff to lash
Than a little girl's lines
Folks dont be so rash
Autum just started life.

I guess this little prodigy... (Below threshold)

I guess this little prodigy doesn't mind to live on welfare, paid by white devils, huh?
Go back to Africa, would ya?

Just a funny observation...... (Below threshold)

Just a funny observation.....why are you on the assumption that this child is a decendant of a slave? there were black people in american that were not ever slaves. There are black people in africa who probably never have seen a white man, even today!

Just something these afrocentrics need to look at. A large number of Irish in america have a slave past, they dont call themselves decendants of slaves nor do they even aknowledge that they were slaves (50,000 Irish were sent to the sugar plantations of the west indies....hundreds of thousands were sent to the americas as indentured servants.....most never got out of their contract...the only positive thing was that there children were NOT normally bound by the contract, unlike black slavery).

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Mac Lorry:
why are you on the assumption that this child is a decendant of a slave?

Not assuming any particularly individual is a descendent of a slave master, but rather the average African-American is likely a descendent of one or more a white slave masters. Here's a link to the scientific data. This demonstrates the stupidity of holding anyone responsible for crimes of the past just because of their race.

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Nootau:

I agree. I dont think any one individual should be held accountable. but the United States government should be held accountable for not enforcing the consitution and allowing the wholesale destuction of black economic backbone. All banks, oil claims, gold mines, farm land, mills, soft wood claims, etc where "confiscated" by (mostly poor) whites at the hands of the Democatic party (which created the KKK, and other groups). And in "confiscated" i specifically mean, terrorizing/running off and killing the people who own those things. It happened between 1864 and 1945. There was two constitutional amendments that prohibited this. They were to enforced. Information is now being unearthed that whole towns, villages, cities and maniciaplities just vanished off offical maps (in the north and south). Rosewood and Tulsa are the two well known examples, but it happened all around the nation (some early estimates point to thousands of early black settlements).
Data on the KKK and the Democratic Party:
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/pcism/sad_history.htm
(PBS also had a special called "Second Civil War" that talked about this too)


Unfortunately currently blacks are squandering the few consessions that were given to them by the US government. Which is also sad. No Trust funds were set up to support the economic viablity of the people, paid for by people who benefit by affirmative action, etc. They could have gave 1%-3% of their paycheck to a Trust whos purpose could have been to create businesses, buy farmland, commodities, factories, child care, give low insterest loans, etc. No sustainable programs were created. The black middle/upper class pretty much spat on the black poor/lower middle class and left them to fend for themselves (after using them to get these consessions of course) and force them to live on handouts (government or otherwise) and low (slave) wage jobs.....
Data Below:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/race/economics/analysis.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/race/economics/sam.html

To look at black american now, you couldnt tell that there were black banks, law firms, 30+ million acres in farmland, personal land, markets, Hospitals, Oil tycoons, schools, etc. Its just gone. And Not being rebuilt (its not the job of white people to rebuild the black economic backbone. But the United States government does owe consessions for allowing its destruction, so blacks can rebuild)

Correction Above: I ment to... (Below threshold)
Nootau:

Correction Above: I ment to say that the ammenments were NOT inforced. Somehow my "N" was removed.

the United States ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:
the United States government should be held accountable for not enforcing the consitution and allowing the wholesale destuction of black economic backbone.

There are lots of problems with trying to hold the United States government responsible for the past deeds of private individuals. The government has no responsibility to proactively enforce any part of the constitution, only the laws that flow from it. Obviously, if people were being killed or run off their lawfully owned property it was in violation of state (not federal) law. If someone could show a state was systematically ignoring their own laws to allow other to take property from blacks, then you might have a case against that state.

The U.S. has a single economy for all people. You can use demographics to lump together various groups into winners and losers, but there's still only one economy. The vary poorest group is likely to be single mothers, but that doesn't mean there's a single mothers economy that needs to be built up.

The U.S. has a capitalist free market economy. As such, individuals compete for economic benefits. The government only intervenes when there's unlawful activity in the marketplace (at least in theory). Affirmative action was instituted as a remedy for past racial and gender discrimination in the marketplace, but it still requires individuals to compete. Had affirmative action been restricted to just blacks, it might do some good, but with every group except white heterosexual males included, it's so watered down that it has no real benefit.

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Nootau:

Now There is something I agree with you on 100%! The one (of many) mistakes that black activists made was that Affirmative Action was not restricted directly to those labeled black and/or colored who had ancestry going back to before 1864. Personally I think this should still be changed now, as soon as possible. People who immigrated after 1964 did not experience the horror of jim crow south and jim crow north. And they came here by choice, so any descrimination/problems they experienced would be by choice, and they could go back to their home country. For the 30 million or so blacks who have ancestry back to 1864 and before, this is their home, and this is their country, a country that they helped create by fighting in the civil war, fighting in the revolutionary war, and of course slave labor.


Just so you know, It has been proven in the tulsa incident (and rosewood) the entire city, police, National Guard, and all local and some state officals were involved. They were never brought to any charges because the United States government was complacent...it was the same in thousands of other towns. You must understand the systematic destruction! It wasnt some "lone nuts" or "hillbillies" this was systematic destruction with a purpose, using the KKK and other terrorist organizations to convince the poor/middle class whites that they had to protect themselves from the prospect of equal blacks. I dont blame the poor whites personally, they were convinced by their criminal government that what they were doing was right. But that doesnt excuse accountability.

How can towns be removed from Offical United States maps without United States appoval? People seem to think that the "government" is seperate from the people. Sorry, the people run the government, and allowed these things to happen. It doesnt matter whether it was "turning the other cheek" or direct participation. Its a government by the people and for the people, and when it does wrong the people must pay and/or hold their government accountable!

FYI-Both Major parties, Republican and Democarats made a deal to keep all black workers in virtual slavery on plantations and in factories. Did you know this? Just watch the PBS special "The Second Civil War". I was shocked, as I didnt know this fact (and that documentation exists) until a few months ago when the show aired. An entire goverment party (with the consent of other major parties), who particpated in government, created terrorist organizations to enforce their policies! Come on! More and more information is coming out that the United States government wanted cheap workers, and also did not want some kind of independant black economy being created, because it would slow/kill the white centered economic growth of the United States. Taxes would still be paid, so it would not have stopped economic growth of America, just white america. Or if you want me to be P.C., rich american interests (who were 99.9% "white" at the time).

Let me put it another, simpiler way...What you are saying is that the people have no accountablity for their governments actions...Thats like saying that Germany does not owe the Jews a bunch of money/support, because the Nazi party was just a few people, and you have to find those people and make them accountable personally. PLEASE.

What happened Between 1864-1945 (some say it lasted until 1964) in America was government sanctioned by government officals, who were given power by the majority of americans. The End. What the Democrates and Republicans did was not legal under the United States Contitution, just like what the nazi party did was not legal under the German constitution (for those who didnt know, Hitler and his party acted outside of the german courts and laws, creating terror squads against the jews....rounding them up for forced labor (ie Slave) camps).

wow, i got a bit long winded. Excuse my ramblings.

A sharp nosed white girl me... (Below threshold)
Ebby:

A sharp nosed white girl meets a muscular black girl going to the fair;
Says the sharp nosed white girl to the muscular black girl "may I touch your hair!!"
Says the muscular black girl to the sharp nosed white girl "may I first tweek your sharp nose!"
Oh no it'll hurt said the sharp nosed white girl to the muscular black girl and away she goes!!

I understand what your're s... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

I understand what your're saying, but it's a simplistic view. Remember that when the defendants in the Rodney King beating case were acquitted in state court they were then charged for the same offence in Federal court even though the Constitution prohibits double jeopardy. This was legal because courts have ruled that the Federal government is not the same as the state government and the state government is not the same as the local government. The Federal government is simply not responsible for crimes done by states. The Federal government is also immune from being sued.

Native Americans have a far stronger case for reparation particularly the treaties that were signed, yet they have had only limited success. Whatever the evidence, no one should plan on getting reparations from the Federal government. To tell young blacks that the Federal government owes them reparations only causes harm. The best course is to insure every kid understands they will have to complete in the American economy and that they need to make good use of whatever educational opportunities they have. What the government does owe them is the opportunity to get a good education and a level playing field in the economy.

First of all, I don't under... (Below threshold)
P:

First of all, I don't understand how someone can say a poem is "horrible" because of what's taught in our eurocentric universities. I have a BA in English as well. This child's poem is spoken word, slam poetry! You may THINK you know what that means, but it is clearly obvious that you do not. There's always these rules and guidelines involved and coincidentally, the "right" way is always the white way. Isn't it time to open up to new things? We're not mechanical. We have a natural way about doing things. Freer, from the soul.
And before you check to see if there are any grammatical/spelling errors in this response--since I KNOW someone will because that makes you feel empowered--know that I didn't check myself because I didn't write this for the intent to be grammatically correct, I wrote this to have my feelings heard.

I don't believe that she wa... (Below threshold)
Viola:

I don't believe that she was helped with this poem at all. she came to my school today and read two other poems before she read white nationalism and i belive that they were very strong and not offensive at all. The two poems were just as good as the last and her father did not help her with any of it. also her father is not rasict because he just feels very strong about her culture. And not only his culture but of the whole minority of america.

First off, with the thousan... (Below threshold)
James:

First off, with the thousands of racist remarks coming from several caucasian adults in the worlds of television, radio, internet, newspapers, and magazines, all of you caucasians whining need to grow up and get a spine instead of being made to answer for historic crimes against humanity that WERE committed by your ancestors. I fail to see how poems that points out specific and true hostorical facts makes their author racist. I fail to see how attempting to instill black pride and black unity among black students makes this child poet a racist.

Help me understand. Was it because she asked black students to recite a pledge instituted by the Black Panther Party meant to promote black community unity via charging them to act with responsibility to each other? Was it because the history behind the poem exposes crimes against humanity the caucasian settlers of 'America' performed against not only Africans stolen from their homeland, but people of African descent who were already in America, as well as other native peoples who were here, such as the Olmec, Cherokee, and Choctaw nations? Was it because she exposed FACTS that countless American educational institutions have tried to hide for the entire 4 centuries+ of America's existence? I'm sorry but none of these acts actually match with the definitions Webster's or any other dictionary defines for RACIST or RACISM. So, exactly WHAT makes Autumn Ashante a child racist?

poeple do you really belive... (Below threshold)
terry:

poeple do you really belive that she can change us after all she is little and. whoever made the choice that this was all about someone who thinks about her own ideas like her poetry please for her sake give it up,=/

the fact is it comforts peo... (Below threshold)

the fact is it comforts people to blame their problems on others. autumn ashante has come to feel this comfort as she has followed in the foot steps of her black forefathers, blaming all of their problems on the white man. the fact is it is your race's incompetence, ignorance, and backward culture that has caused so much suffering of the black people. you all should be thankful that we brought you out of the barbarianism and pestilence of africa into our beautiful country of white industriousness and success. however, the black man won't change. he will always find comfort blaming those whom built this white nation, while never looking inward to discover the source of his problems.

What is wrong with you peop... (Below threshold)
areyou mad?:

What is wrong with you people?? She is a 7 year old girl!!! do you remember being 7? her poem is factually acurate, and i don't think she's saying anything racist or hateful. read any (accurate) history and you will realize that she is right. America was born of bloodshed and brutal racism. she's simply an informed child stating a fact, that i'm certain has had it's impact on her life as an african american. white people couldn't understand what it's like to be black americans period, so don't preach about a life you know nothing about. what drive you to be so hateful towards a child? even if she was a racist, she's a child and instead of hating a child as an adult, you shouldn't reciprocate with hate period. this is how racist crazyness starts. and why in the heavens would she write about native americans if she's not native american?? are you saying that she should write an accurately sited 30 page paper about history??? are you all mad? how do you justify critsizing the poem of a 7 year old just because you have a B.S. in English. my college english professors are more kind. HELLO??!!???

This is hilarous how you co... (Below threshold)
John:

This is hilarous how you could try to disparage a seven year old's poetry by saying it lakes certain style or structure. You guys are pathetic...she is only seven. Does that make you feel better since you were not at the level at seven? Do you feel better now that you have convinced yourself that she did not right it?

This young lady is just sta... (Below threshold)
Faith:

This young lady is just stating what is the truth and what is real... If you get off "racism" and just read it for what it is, the young girl is just trying to send a message to the black people ... simply a wake up call which is much needed. Im sure the little girl did come up with the poem all by herself. (How can you use the fact that she is only 7 as justification for your misbeliefs?)For Gods sake, There are many 7,8,9,10 + year old KIDS graduating college as we speak! Dont criticize this young girls potential she will be one to make a difference in this world! Why try to cover up the facts... Face it, racism still exists everywhere. Had it been a white female who wrote the poem, I bet everyone would regard her as a little hero.

when i was seven i was runn... (Below threshold)
David:

when i was seven i was running through the forests near my home and organizing baseball games in the empty lot across the street from my house. i didn't even know what poetry was. suffice it to say that this young girl is a lot more intellectually advanced at age seven than i was. that said, smarts mean nothing when they're used on this crap. i am not one of those racist white guys that takes pleasure in pointing out racist actions/words by blacks (you know the kind of people i'm talking about) but i have got to say this poem smells of racism. to condemn an entire people - in this case white people - for actions taken by people hundreds of years ago who happened to look like them is shameful. to echo an overused, but true, cliche: you can't fight fire with fire. you don't combat racism with more racism. (and you don't seek peace by starting wars, but i digress.) as an american, i wish this girl would use her obvious intellectual gifts for something more constructive than racist rants. being smart means nothing if you don't use your smarts in a constructive manner. for example, the unabomber, ted kaczynski (sp?) was reported to be a genius. look what good he accomplished. also, most serial killers are reported to have above average intelligence. rather have them be dumb than serial killers. bottom line: this young girl's brilliant mind is being distorted in such a way that is wasting her obvious brilliance. (all this assumes she wrote the poem herself. if she didn't, then it's not her that should be criticized at all--it's her father. and in which case i would consider her a victim.)

This is a mess. This little... (Below threshold)
This is a mess:

This is a mess. This little 7 year old girl didn't do any thing wrong. Aren't we entitled to freedom of speech. How dare someone call her a racist because she speaks the truth. You must be white, thats why you need that. You never want to hear the truth. She is speaking it, whether it was pushed into her heade or not. She has a name for herself and doesn't need your approval. We, as americans need to get our acts together. We are going to criticize this girl, then we need to correct her. She is still a child whether we like it or not!!!!

absolutely correct! Thirty ... (Below threshold)

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Why do u faggots care so mu... (Below threshold)
Hang_Muds:

Why do u faggots care so much about one stupid nigger child? there are millions of them befowling our streets with their ignorant nigger logic. as people of common european ancestory we need to rise up and silence the bigoted nigger race. niggers are merely beast of burdon to toil in the field. we shouldnt let one niglet whore to compromise that fact. niggers are genetically inferior and must be keep out of the bloodline. do u really want these apes to spread into your family? we have to stop the problem where it starts, in the welfare ladden masses that are just waiting to overtake our way of life. if you want to become a nigger inject botox into your lips and smear shit all over your face. you may not be as stupid but you will certainly smell akin to the apes.

Blacks are superor to white... (Below threshold)

Blacks are superor to white devils, we are smarter den u and we knos what we be talkin about

WHITE DEVILS KEPT US IN BONDAGE
KILL WHITE DEVILS

THE BLACK MAN INVENTED EVERYTHING ITS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE PROWD BLACK KINGS

WHITES STOLE ALL OF OUR TECHNOLOGY THEY AINT INVINTED NOTING

WHITE MAN AINT DONE NOTHIN THEY GOT TINY DICKS

This is crazy. Most of this... (Below threshold)
Sarah:

This is crazy. Most of this stuff is really uncalled for. Some of you should be ashamed of some of the things you said. tsk tsk tsk. I'm not on either side of the argument. It's a poem that expresses someones thoughts. Not yours not mine but hers. Just let her be and go on with your lives. Make somethin out of it and be succesful.

Wow, it's amazing what a 7-... (Below threshold)
wow:

Wow, it's amazing what a 7-year old girl will do to get your nationalists at arms with a poem. White people just love analyzing everything don't they.!!!!!!!1

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It's funny that people are ... (Below threshold)
T Hudson:

It's funny that people are quick to call this child a racist and overlook the bigotry that occurs every day in the world. I hope it did ruffle some feathers and tossed you off of your pedestals. Get a grip and check your own souls before you deride a child's anger.

I can't believe the respons... (Below threshold)
Katie:

I can't believe the response that one poem by a 7 year old has ellicited. Look at yourselves! She is entitled to freedom of speech, as are you.

It is important that people look within themselves and find something to believe in. Sure, the words that she writes are not all her own, but how is it different from children carrying pro life signs with their parents?

All children are influenced by the opinions of their parents. They learn to carry the torch of passion, but only if the parents have a passion. Passion is good because it causes society to move in a more positive direction.

Maybe when she turns 25, her words will be more subdued, because will have explored her father's views, analyzed the world she lives in, and come up with a more unilateral voice.

You have to have faith in the human spirit and know that we need the radicals, even if they are difficult to take, because you can't change the world if everyone agrees with you.

Now that she has our attention, lets see what she has to say.

I can't really say whether ... (Below threshold)
G-Iris:

I can't really say whether this 7 yr. old is racist or not racist, but I do say that this poem based on my perspective of the world around me, speaks the truth about why we have the chaos & problems we do in this world. Even though, she refers to blacks, the poem seems to only tell about the history of her race, but mine as well. I am Irish American & when it comes to history of Ireland & my ancestors & predecessors who have had to endure the same struggles of the black person, this poem recites not only the history of black peoples, but Ireland as well. She speaks of the black race, but if anybody wants to read about the Irish race, mise well go ahead & reread the poem, because I can go on & tell this same story. Even though she only talks of the black race, I feel the subject she is speaking out on. It's definitely the truth & stuff that needs to be heard. She is acknowledging to those peoples who have made her's victims about what they have done. If anybody had been through chaos as her peoples had been through, I honestly would be compelled to speak my piece as she is doing. In fact, I myself have been writing a book which I have titled; "Peaceful Till Disturbed," which tells about from the time England marched into Ireland stripping the Irish race of it's culture, heritage, money, religion, & attempting to wipe us out from existence. I also go into struggles the Irish man had to endure throughout time & where we are now. Autumn's poem can very well summarize my book. If a music duo such as Prussian Blue can go around singing about Hitler being a good man, then Autumn can do what she's doing. I definitely say that she has a good father who teaches the truth about what's going on this world & not teaching 2 twin daughters a bunch of lies. Out of curiousity, I have also read Prussian Blue's lyrics & their music is nothing but a bunch of lies that their racist Mama taught them. For example, there is one song where PB sings about other races raping their lands. To be honest, nobody ever marched into Germany & took everything from them like England, France, & Spain did to not only Ireland, but Africa at the same time. Look what Germany had done to the Jews. Autumn speaks the truth & I definitely give props & respect to her father for instilling her with the real facts about history.

Katrina, new orleans:... (Below threshold)
factsonly:

Katrina, new orleans:
Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, the African American founder and president of the Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny (BOND) is not willing to blame the Bush administration. Instead, he faults what he calls the "black culture."

"It's not President Bush's responsibility to make us get up and take care of ourselves. That was a political ploy in order to make blacks believe the Republican Party was against them and that they really don't care," Peterson said.

Peterson will moderate the July 26 conference at the Heritage Foundation.

Rev. Grant Storm, who is the Caucasian minister and president of Conservative Christians for Reform, echoed Peterson's view. "The mentality of 'government's going to bail me out. Where's the government?'" is "in the black culture," Storm said. "The mentality is instilled within their churches and in their homes -- of 'the government owes you, the government is your solution, and the government will come and help you.'

"When the government doesn't come and help them, frankly all they do is yap and complain," said Storm, instead of "saying 'Hey, I better go get a job, I better go on my own, I better go find an apartment, I better go take care of myself and my family.

"They are waiting for more FEMA money, they are waiting for more relief money and it ain't coming, or it's coming slow; meanwhile, the surrounding parishes -- the predominantly white parishes -- they are rebuilding on their own, and the same way in the Gulf of Mississippi," said Storm. "Orleans -- they still don't have their flooded cars off the streets."




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