We need to start a Playboy pool on this gal.

I don't understand why she would be charged in two counties. Isn't that double jeopardy?

It's not double jeopardy if it's two separate crimes. I'm guessing there were multiple instances of their activity in more than one county, thus each county was charging them with separate crimes. I.e. the "snipers" in the DC area a few years ago. They were spread over a few states, so if they got acquitted, say, in Virginia, they could have still been prosecuted in Maryland.

And Kevin, I think the ship has already sailed on any chance of "normal".

Proud - the answer to your question is that in this case as in that of Sandra "Beth" Geisel there were many rape victims. In this case the rapes covered most of Fla. So there could be many counties having many trials; were it not for the famous American double standard relating to men/women.

Poor kid , lucky kid,poor kid, lucky kid.. wait this is sick..

The Registered Sex Offender part is a bona fide bitch. I just buy the cookies now.

It's disgusting.

Imagine if it was a male teacher and a female student and people were thinking, but... he's *hot*...

Why is it so wrong when it's a priest, huh?

Shame, SHAME on the judge who wouldn't accept the mother's request that this not go to trial to spare her son, even after the shrink said it would further traumatize him!! The sick pedophile bitch didn't get what was coming to her because of the judge's stubborn stupidity and lack of concern for the victim.

People should take a good long look at the photos showing how gorgeous this sex offender is, this woman who could have had ANY man and instead chose a child; next time a famous man is accused of rape and people start saying "he wouldn't rape anyone, because he could sleep with any woman he wanted," REMEMBER.

Omni

This peice of living vermin should be thrown into prison without a key. She should be treated no differently than any man who would do such, this pervert.

She pretty in a blank sort of way. Not much upstairs, I reckon.

I really wonder if it was really a rape.

Someone wrote in discontent, "...The sick pedophile bitch didn't get what was coming to her because of the judge's stubborn stupidity and lack of concern for the victim."

I feel your pain, however I too would have drilled my extention very deep within her vaginal linings without prejudice. Please understand the following: it's not about justice, it's not about the judge's decision, it's all about getting another Blonde bitch to pose for Playboy or Penthouse.

Capitalism is alive in America ... earn your living bitch; you've earned it!

...smooches,
That is all

Hear ye Hear ye let us vote to burn this demon seed at the stake..after all , shes way more of a threat to you than Dubya or saddam ,osama could ever be right ?

I can't believe poor old Greta and Nancy and Matt and Katie and Geraldo and the rest of them are getting fucked out of a trial like this, is there to be no one left unsullied?

Oh man! I wish she was my teacher in middle school! It is much different when its a male teacher and female student. But, hell I would feel lucky if I was that kid!

Yes, of course, let's be serious. All of us guys wish she where our teacher when we were trying to get the hell past high school. What a great learning experience.

25 and 16, not so bad really. Historically, one wonders what the problem is that the chicks here are complaing about really. She's cute, yes, is that it? Blondes have more fun, and some wannabes resent it?

And if this had been a male teacher involved with a female student, I'm sure it would've ended the same way.

YEAH, RIGHT!!!

So much for equality of the sexes.

You guys can all make fun of this, but I have a question that bothers me. The judge chose not to accept the plea becuase it did not involve jail time (good for him). The prosecutor decides to drop the case to not further damage the victim. But, in doing so, let's the rapist go free.

My question: how in the hell could the prosecutor let it get to this point? How could he not anticipate this knowing the circumstances of the case, the national exposure and the plain and simple fact that this particular judge would not go along with it based on past experience or just what has happened so far?

There are many cases like this that go to trial without the minor victim having to take the stand.

This was screwed up all the way around.

The only person that did his job correctly was the defense attorney and I hope that I never meet someone like that -- scumbag.

This chick gave a horribly pathetic speech trying to come off as another victim -- so glad she's not teaching anymore, her ability to put together a cogent thought sounded to be below the level that she was teaching.

It's all just pathetic.

The chicks are jealous?

Maybe the mothers are furious, because we're not a teenaged boy on hormonal overload and so can see past our dicks to the emotional consequences and the betrayal of trust and authority involved.

Was it rape? Did someone actually ask that question? Is it *rape* when a girl is paid attention to by an older man? You can bet that *she* feels very special. *She* feels very beautiful. She feels very adult to have the attention of a *man* instead of a pubescent troglodyte. Be sure of it. More often than not girls feel that way when it's their own father.

Because young people are easy to screw with.

Is it rape? Yes. That's why we have statuatory rape laws. That's why we don't say, "But the gym teacher is HOT, what girl wouldn't love to bang him?" We protect children because they *need* to be protected.

If she wasn't a teacher it would still be rape, but because she is a teacher there's the added element of betrayal of trust. She's supposed to be trustworthy to be around children.

And as someone else pointed out... she's beautiful. She could have nearly any man she wanted but she *chose* a child (or many of them, as the case may be.) I guess women predators are like men in this, that they chose occupations that keep them close to children.

McCain... he's 16 *now*. I have a son just turned 15. Mature is not a word that applies, no matter what boys like to think about themselves.

In fact, I'd like to suggest to you a**holes that if you want to get laid you should target girls between 12 and 14 years old. They are easy to manipulate. Just think what a man you'd be if you screwed little girls.

Look, when I was between 12 and 14, I certainly did the honorable thing and targeted chicks in the same age group. I can honorably say that I targeted them a whole heck of a lot. Perhaps you were not in the cool group, but I'm still not understanding the problem here. If the older babes would have taken a liking to innocent ole me, I'm fairly sure that I would have strongly considered trading up like every other male. This is America, dammit, hear me roar.

It is scary to see her in the dream :)

24/16 isn't so far apart. I've always thought the 18-year minimum to be nothing more than a prudish Victorian-era throw-back.

Kind of ironic that it's "sick and perverted" because a state decides that you're not mature enough to have sex until you're 18. Go to another state or country, and it's all of a sudden normal, no calling out the national guard or anything...

Based on my own youth, I've always thought that 16 to be a better choice for a minimum age. Many countries (including the UK) agree with this. The US federal age of consent is still 16 as well. Some states, like Mississippi, have a 16 year old minimum age, but that applies only to a partner that is less than two years older than them till they're 18. Then there's Canada, which last I looked, had a 14 year old minimum age. I guess it gets cold up there.

Men should be outraged if only for the complete double-standard. A 25 year old man would be tossed in jail.

Women are not outside of this either. This is where your women's rights movement has gotten you. A woman with a hot body and a pretty face, banging her way to freedom...

She could at least have been sentenced to appear in Penthouse, the "Girls of the Cell Block" edition. Lots of room for 'creativity' there.

Trauma? What trauma? When I was 14 I would have thought I had died and gone to heaven if a looker like Debra had seduced me.
That kid's traumacame from being found out and having the good times end.
Chuck

She gets off because the media would use this to sell deodorant? Would that argument fly if the sexes were reversed?

I hope not. Maybe if they had pursued the case the public would finally get fed up and demand that the media report more newsworthy events and leave these people some dignity.

Then again, maybe pigs can fly. The media will find some other worthless tripe to portray as news. Think about that as you fiddle with your remote - your decision affects whether perps go free.

While I agree that calling it trauma is a bit of a stretch (a lot of a stretch) -

Adults seducing kids is bad. Did that boy understand the potential consequences of his actions? He was being used - he was a toy.

And teachers seducing students is worse.

I gotta throw in with McCain and Charles Bannerman on this one: when I was in middle school, I would have given parts of my anatomy to have had a hottie teacher like her trying to seduce me. Any guy who says he wouldn't have is either a liar or, um, confused about some things.

Is what she did legal? No.

Moral? No.

Is there a huge double standard here? You betcha.

But I think that I can live with it.

the judge also probably got lucky at a young age.

There is a documentary being made about Lafave.. www.afterschooldocumentary.com At least someone is doing something about this.

Hmmm.

... You can bet that *she* feels very special. *She* feels very beautiful. She feels very adult to have the attention of a *man* instead of a pubescent troglodyte. Be sure of it. More often than not girls feel that way when it's their own father.

Frankly I've run into situations like this many times over the years. This isn't some sort of ego-boasting nonsense where I proclaim my manliness or something. It can be a very serious situation when a young girl in her teens decides that she's going to try out being an adult with you. Besides I'm 41 now so I'm past this point, I hope. At least it hasn't been the problem it was when I was 24.

From my experience, on the other side of the gender divide, there comes a point where a young teen girl wants to experiment on how she would fare as an adult. The object, as near as I can determine, isn't to succeed into getting a man into bed, but to flap her wings so to speak and experience the thrill of a forbidden chase.

That it can end very badly for all parties involved doesn't come into the equation for her. Not of out ignorance, but because it's simply not important at that moment. On the other hand the legalities of this sort of thing are extremely important for the older man.

But this sort of thing does happen so it can't be discounted.

Yeah, whatever.

There's people who claim that sex with *young* children doesn't hurt anyone either.

She's a scum bucket.

Pure and simple.

I got to go with the other guys on this one. When I was this kid's age a hot babe old enough to drive and buy booze would have been the ultimate gift. Now you have to win the lottery to get a 20 something babe to take a second look.

Anyone who thinks a normal 15 year-old boy is traumatized is such a relationship is drinking too much of the modern psychology cool aid. Yes it's a double standard, but it's one nature gave us.

Bottom like, the boy's life wasn't damaged by the relation ship, and I'm not willing to destroy the women's life to make some political point about equality. I figure that's compassionate conservativism in action. If any damage was done to the boy, it was done by the legal system.

Synova said, much further up:

Imagine if it was a male teacher and a female student and people were thinking, but... he's *hot*...

I'm not saying this to be a smart ass, but I've often wondered, what if the pedo in question was or looked like Brad Pitt or Orlando Bloom?
Looking at this teacher, it is mostly, if not all, guys saying she;s hot, he was willing, maybe it's not rape. But if it was a sexy guy, would more women follow the same logic?

"She's a scum bucket. Pure and simple."

Sure, but a more common word to use is "easy." And that's what boys appreciate at that bashful age.

Anyway, I thought we were concerned about his emotional fragility rather than her problem. Honestly, would you care so much about her if she wasn't so amazingly hot and blonde?

I am a little concerned about the psychological damage done to all the other boys at that school, who now realize what they might have achieved in return for an apple, a little pinch on the ass, or other small effort. Consider their feelings too, please.

So... when are you going to start going after 14 year olds, McCain? They'd "appreciate" the attention of an older man, too, you know. Consider their feelings, won't you?

Would I care if she wasn't prettier than a movie star? And blond?

90% of my high school was blond. It was amazing we could tell each other apart. Blond is about as interesting as a luke warm glass of water. I'm blond, my sibs were all blond, my cousins are blond. My kids are blond. My nephews are blonder than my kids. For people who don't have blond genes, there's blond from a bottle.

Girls and boys, particularly in the first years of puberty are easy to manipulate, but they don't tend to consider what happens to them abuse. Even if it's same sex adult and 12 year old boy, the chances of the kid even realizing that he's been played is slim. If it's a 12 year old girl, she thinks she's special. No one expects these kids to have the maturity to realize that they are in an absolutely subordinate situation. (And don't we all just love being subordinate? This is something we tell people they should want, right? This is something that is good for them, right?) But we *do* expect adults to realize this and we *do* hold them responsible.

Or that's the idea anyhow.