Remember that stupid movie "A Day Without a Mexican", perhaps this will be it come to life.

Honestly a day without an Illegal would be a great day where I live.

But the main point is that single day boycots are pointless. Just like "dont buy gas day" is a massive failure that makes zero impact on the economy. This day too will mean little or nothing

Will Taco Bell be closed?

Jay Tea:

You are correct that the event, if successsful, will highlight the economic benefits without the costs. However, the call to action is "A day without immigrants" -- not a "day without illegal aliens"

Part of the political power that the illegal immigrants have is the relationship that they have with legal immigrants. By linking hardline views of illegal immigration with racism, legal immigrants are encouraged to side with the illegal immigrants. Also, the legal immigrants know that they can gain more political power as a group if more illegal immigrants become citizens.

No, this is all being positioned as "Immigrant's Rights."

They'd probably get better participation from the illegal community if they moved it to May 5th (Cinco de Mayo).

Now if the employers would just have the spine to fire the illegals that don't show up for work that day, because they decided to protest.

The only thing these people will manage to do on May 1 is make nuisances of themselves. What do they think will happen? Do they imagine the Dow is going to plummet by 2000 points or something?

I could support this boycott if they included not invading America for that one day as well.

How about everybody else boycott any business related to Illegal Immigration for that one day. Don't let the landscaper work, don't let the nanny come to work, don't eat at illegal-staffed restaurants, don't buy made in Mexico products etc.

A day without an Illegal could be a day when some of my neighbors could lay down their arms and let their kids play outside safely.

Will the guys printing up the fake social security cards be taking the day off too?

Does this mean the car-theives will boycott stealing for one day?

SmartGuy,

I might remind you that those are the employers who are already violating the law by hiring illegals.

I find the date very symbolic.

A meat packing company in MI fired some employee's.

They were told that if they did not show up to work during the last protest they would be fired. The company kept their promise.

This is the phone #: 313-259-7500. Call them and show your support for the stand they are taking. I did!

I wonder if on May 1st, the illegal alien's will still be able to get free health care or other financial aid?

Did I imagine it, or was there a time when the mainstream media actually competed with each other so fiercely that they would jump at the chance to expose each other's errors? Didn't they fight so hard for the "scoop" that, even if a story was unflattering to a Democrat, (the party most mainstream reporters belonged to even then),they had to run with it because otherwise someone else would beat them to it? Or did I dream that? Maybe I just naively assumed that, because that's how it ought to be.
As Jay says, there is no liberal fear of the MSM exposing their schemes. Somehow the biggest papers and all of the TV/cable news stations but Fox seem to have an agreement to never, ever say anything that might cast liberals in a bad light or give conservatives a crumb of credit.
Their fact-twising, truth-concealing, source-omitting techniques were bound to bring them down, as the role of competitor was picked up by those who don't share the agenda. They gambled that there wouldn't be effective competition before they became the only legally allowed media, I guess.
Now when there's MSM coverage of another flag-festooned "Peaceful March for PeaceCivilRightsJobsHealthcareDignity", I dash to the internet to see what really happened. 'Cuz I have a "right to know", y'know? I can absolutely count on the entire MSM to skip right over the foreign flags, communist sponsors, and anarchist thugs that I want to see. The truth--it's so much more interesting than, say, Katie Couric.

What a great idea! That way they can show us, yessiree Bob, that America is incompetent abd incapable unless propped up by the tide of iilegals.

But have the A.N.S.W.E.R. folks given enough thought to this? There's more to do! They should show their impact on ALL aspects of American life. But maybe they've already planned on it.

So I guess they're going to boycott the hospitals, right? That would show the clinics and the ERs, right? And the maternity wards! Particularly the maternity wards, right? Heck, would the doctors, nurses and other workers at tax-supported clinics and maternity wards even have jobs if it weren't for the illegals?

And it's an old story for a young pregnant illegal to time her entry so that she comes across from Juarez to make it into the American ER just as her contractions are 2 minutes apart, meaning the baby those selfish Americans paid will deliver the baby and hospitalize and care mom and child both, so that the baby is automatically an American citizen. And she'll be entitled to SSA and foodtsamps and WIC vouchers...all those will be abandoned on Monday, right? And the state and local assistance they may be getting? That's out the window, right?

Now the schools: they're going to stay home Monday, right? Boy, that'll show those thousands of greedy and lazy Yanqui English-as-a-second-language teachers, the Spanish-speaking teacher's aides and the bilingual tutors which virtually every school system has been forced to hire.

And the illegals are not going to bother the police on May Day, right? So when some guys steals Pedro's money roll, Pedro is just out of luck on Monday?

And speaking of money, the shipments of currency back to the true homes in Mexico are going to stop on Monday, rght?

And speaking of shipments, here's a tough one: the drug shipments. Look, I don't want to take the meth out of their mouths, but they're going to do a slowdown on those, right? Not come through on Monday? I don't know what the crystal meth users will do, but it will teach them to be properly grateful for all the illegals do for them, and out of the kindness of their hearts, too.

Oh, and taxes. Not paying them will be a great way to show the northerners. Don't pay the real property taxes, the personal property taxes, stop those SSI and Medicare withdrawals, and above all don't pay a single red cent of federal, state or local income or occupational tax on Monday. Oooh, and no garbage fees. No community assessments of any kind. That will get the word out!. Oh....whaddaya mean, "they don't anyway"? Well, okay, so maybe the tax thing is not such a good idea. Never mind.

Overall, it's a great idea, but doesn't go far enough. The illegals should take these suggestions and really stick it to The Man, uh, Hombre on May Day. Yep, those weak gringoes will be simply begging for them to come back, I just know.

Sad to see that this thread has changed from what is usually good discussion into blatant racially biased insults. It must be easy to joke like that since we are talking about "illegals" anyway, they don't have the standing you do as a US citizen. They must be beneath you because of that, and the fact they work menial labor jobs you would never do or encourage your kids to do yourself. Maybe it is insulting to your US citizenry that they speak a language you don't understand, and are probably talking about you. How suspicious you must be.
Fortunately, the US govt, however is more "human" than you and allows them the courtesy of health care and social services, because what is truly relevant here, they exist right now among us. They shop and contribute to their local economy, send money home, and in effect make lemonade from the lemons they were given in life. The fall in love and have children that have been given American education and those children now understand civil concepts and don't want to see their parents made into felons. We know illegal immmigration is wrong. We know the system is not working. Can you not see from your office seat that this issue is about displacing families?
A boycott is suggested only to show they have some "human worth" to you. That they in fact exists "economically" which to them may mean more in your eyes than what they do now, the gardener, nanny or cook, the lower class, the butt of racial jokes and hatred for their non-americaness. Seriously this issue has gone from communist influence and conspiracy, dems vs republicans, legal vs illegal etc. None of which the "people" in question are concerned with. A poorly designed and easily skirted immigration policy caused this. They are here now, millions strong, willing to be a part of our society and are voicing that to you right now. Instead you look down your nose at them, and belittle their efforts. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To bad your happiness includes making fun of the less fortunate in a public forum.

You earn your rights to L,L and POH by BECOMING A CITIZEN!

What part of illegal don't you folks understand???? Or should we translate it for you?

inmigrante ilegal
immigrant ilegal
противозаконный иммигрант
非法移民
onwettige immigrant
immigré illégal
ungültiger Immigrant
παράνομος μετανάστης
immigrante illegale
違法移民
불법 이주자

Here we go again with the race card - John. This has absolutely nothing to do with race - NOTHING. It has nothing to do with LEGAL immigration - NOTHING. It has everything to do with ILLEGAL immigration - EVERYTHING. Come here legally, and there's no problem. Why should we have to pay for and support illegals coming to OUR COUNTRY? Then... have illegals call us racists because we don't want them here illegaly. Look at the Mexican immigrant laws - and tell me how fair they are. They're 100 times harsher than US immigration laws. Stop your whinning and come here legally - you wouldn't hear any complaints out of the MAJORITY of LEGAL American citizens.

My bad, I should have said:

BECOMING A CITIZEN LEGALLY

not by intimidation, economic blackmail, etc.

Mr. Garcia,
Could you please explain why the country FROM which these people are arriving cannot offer the same opportunities as they see in the United States? That might be a nice place for you to begin your discussion

What's even more hillarious is the Hollywood elite and leftist Moonbats that go around running down the US saying Americans are stupid, etc.. Yet here we have 12 million people that have risked their lives to get in to the US albiet illegally just so they can cut the lawns, wash the cars, walk the dogs and babysit those same damn elitists. Like Bill Mahr said in an interview, no illegal immigrants would destroy Beverly Hills. That's racist if I ever hear it. Why doesn't the left condemn him?

You conservatives cannot just arbitrarily stop these legal illegals from a better life.

Here we go again with the race card - John.
Posted by: lakestate at April 13, 2006 02:57 PM
Sorry, I didn't play it, it was played by commenters before me, using car thieves, taco bell employees, and social security card forgers as descriptors of illegals. Funny that you start with such a comment though as if you are already tired of hearing yet another opinion. Personally, I feel you are off- topic, the original post by Jay Tea is in regards to the choice of May 1st as a communist inspired day which happens to be the planned day for the boycott. My addition is an attempt to show you that regardless of which organization is aligning themselves to a position in this cause, communist, socialists, dems, conservatives whatever they all fall short of the reality of the problem. Legal Mexican-American minors, US citizens by birth are questioning the very same parents that have provided food shelter etc. for them about their illegal status, all the while seeing america debating if their parents become felons. The parents are rallying together because they know they are wrong but nobody has bothered them about it till now. They are faced with a big "what should I do now" and that is the issue. No one from any walk of life wants their family torn apart by incarceration or deportation. They want to show they are worth more, but instead are still the subject of american explotation. (much like Bill Maher's comment)
Mr. Garcia,
Could you please explain why the country FROM which these people are arriving cannot offer the same opportunities as they see in the United States? That might be a nice place for you to begin your discussion

Posted by: DaveD at April 13, 2006 03:12 PM

hard to tell if there is sarcasm there, let's just go with it as is. Try researching it yourself, start with Vicente Fox's stalled democratic reforms, Free market supply that cannot to keep up with a growing population, not enough jobs to go around, add NAFTA opening the door for potential in 1994 but just the year 2000 as marking the first true democratic election and YOU should be able to begin your own discussion once you are more comfortable.

What is illegal are businesses large and small who try to get an edge by either knowingly or looking the other way to hire someone at a lower wage. This is especially true when it comes to small construction businesses. If you want to stem the tide start incarcerating the greedy b's hiring. If these people had a choice of paying a reasonable wage to a citizen or legal green card employee or going to jail that would make the biggest difference.

remember a lot of those nice houses you live in and those well groomed lawns you walk on the work is being done by some of those illegal immigrants! so before you end up putting you foot in your mouth think about what you are saying. these people come here to work and do jobs that you wouldn't do if they weren't here, they pay taxes and take good care of their families. not all of them get public or governmental assistance like you claim. the majority of people on public or governmental assistance are caucasian people not hispanics or african americans. so always think before you speak because the words you say can always turn around and bite you in the behind. a day without the hispanic population will truly show you how big of an empact they have on this country and maybe that's what it's going to take for the people that hide behind their so called citizenship to realize there's no race that's above any other we are all one race and that's the human race!!! what's next are you going to try to send everybody back to where they really originated from? you know all the african american's didn't come to this country willingly!!!!

In regard to Jay's reference to May Day..the biggest holder of the Republican Congress, never veto President outragious DEBT is Communist China..you know the folks who crushed an attempt at democracy at T Square in 1989. The Chinese actually believed in the tide that ended the Soviet Union. The same thing is now happening right now in Tibet where thousands are being arrested. Heck, next year if China demanded we celebrate May Day or they call in their debt what would we do?

colony

n 1: a body of people who settle far from home but maintain ties with their homeland; inhabitants remain nationals of their home state but are not literally under the home state's system of government.

Given the above definition, I think we're past the point of illegal immigration and into a different realm...with what, 12+ million illegal immigrants here?

John Garcia: Everybody has the right to a better life. Yes? Then you wouldn't mind donating some of your paycheck so I can feed my kids right? I know I set up a tent on your lawn and by law, it's your property, but I do mow it for you occasionally right? I mean, I do a job you don't want to do.
In fact, you know what..I deserve to live on your lawn and I'm going to protest in front of your house until the government changes it's property laws to allow me to keep generously contributing to your life and livelyhood.
I know the people next door saved for 5 or more years to buy a house in this neighborhood, and me having the law changed so I don't have to buy a house to live here would completely undermine, and in fact destroy the whole point of doing things the right way...but I wan't to be here and that's what matters in the end right, my situation?

Wait, wait, my 3rd child was born on your lawn!..so you can't send me away now, because then she would have to stay and that would break up my family. Take her with me? No, no...my apartment is a mess and I just can't bear cleaning it. Maybe if you cleaned it for me I wouldn't be living on your lawn in the first place.

Now John, I don't want the above to sound mocking, that was not it's intention. Analogy is sometimes better than just repeating the same facts over again. Does it make any more sense as an analogy?

This topic is going to rage on and on for time untold. I believe much more is going on here than meets the general publics eye. It baffles me that we have seen hundreds of thousands, and I'm presuming the majority are illegal, demanding that Our government change OUR laws to accommodate them, when they should in fact be demonstrating in their OWN country demanding THEIR government institute changes to provide them a better life in THEIR country. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I'm sure beginning to think that something is and has been going on between the U.S and Mexican governments when it comes to this issue.

Chela, that is the very POINT of what I wrote: I do not believe what you wrote is true. I believe that the true costs of the benefits you describe vastly exceed them, and I am ready, willing, and eager to put it to the test. In fact, that's what the whole point of the May 1 protest is all about.

J.

Chela

"remember a lot of those nice houses you live in and those well groomed lawns you walk on the work is being done by some of those illegal immigrants! so before you end up putting you foot in your mouth think about what you are saying."

You're saying that without people coming to this country illegally we couldn't mow our own lawns or pay the kid down the street $2.00 to do so? You mean if I wanted my roof re-shingled there simply isn't any American citizen who would be able to do it for me?

"these people come here to work and do jobs that you wouldn't do if they weren't here,"

What, like the West Virgina coal miners? They weren't immigrants. They make your jobs look like a walk in the park. We would still do those jobs Chela, because they need to be done.

"they pay taxes and take good care of their families. not all of them get public or governmental assistance like you claim."

How does one pay tax if one is not supposed to be here in the first place? You need a social security number to pay taxes here do you not? I may be totally wrong about that, I'm not sure.

And you're right, not all of them are on governmental assistance. But do keep in mind that most public services that illegals use are paid for by legal citizens, so in a way they are being assisted by the government and it's citizens.

"the majority of people on public or governmental assistance are caucasian people not hispanics or african americans. so always think before you speak because the words you say can always turn around and bite you in the behind."

That can be argued, and in fact there's no solid answer to your claim, as we have no way to really document all the people here illegally.

"a day without the hispanic population will truly show you how big of an empact they have on this country"

I know they have a big impact on this country...but is it a positive one?

"and maybe that's what it's going to take for the people that hide behind their so called citizenship to realize there's no race that's above any other we are all one race and that's the human race!!!"

So-called citizenship? Are you refuting my citizenship? If you want to be accepted here, try not insulting it's legal citizens.

You're correct, "we are all one race and that's the human race!!!" but do tell me what breaking the law of another country has to do with that? You may want to make race a factor here, but it simply isn't...sorry.

"what's next are you going to try to send everybody back to where they really originated from?"

Not if they came here legally.

"you know all the african american's didn't come to this country willingly!!!!"

True, they didn't. Are you saying that we kidnapped upwards of 12 million people from their home countries and forced them to work in the U.S.? Well, if that's the case, by all means, you're now free to go home. If you want to come back, please do so legally.

Things like ethics, scruples, honesty, don't seem to have gotten in your way thus far - why start now?

Whoa John !!!! "Sorry, I didn't play it, it was played by commenters before me, using car thieves, taco bell employees, and social security card forgers as descriptors of illegals." John that was MY question ... "Are the guys making the fake social security cards taking the day off." How is that racial in any way, shape or form? Is it not illegal to forge SS cards? Who would forge a SS card? I never mention a race. Any illegal of any race will forge a SS card. Therefore John, it was YOU that played the race card, not I.

Heralder,
I think I can bridge the gap for us. Your analogy in my opinion fails when you state "In fact, you know what..I deserve to live on your lawn and I'm going to protest in front of your house until the government changes it's property laws to allow me to keep generously contributing to your life and livelyhood." This idea is not in the minds of the illegals and if it was voiced it was said because LULAC or some other political group viewed it as a necessary "I am an American, give me my rights" stance. My opinion is that politics is the driver here and the actual illegal wants to remain as non descript as they have been for the past 30 years. Silent, staying amongst their own, not drawing attention to themselves and dreading that one day they will be caught and returned. Because after all, regardless of the view that some might have, they know right from wrong and know the chance they take by being illegal. Now weighing the difference between what they have and what America can offer has made many an engineer into a 7-11 clerk and many a teacher into an unskilled laborer. Now just like yourself and myself and any other commenter here, we like to think we can make a difference and change our governments stance on an issue. DO those of you whose arguement includes clean up your own nation first actually think that can happen. We can't even settle that here in America with our "for the people, by the people' government. How are Mexican Nationals responsible for their government yet. They have 5 major political parties, none of which is a majority, two of which do nothing but oppose the President. People please, face facts, Mexico is years away from being able to rid itself of corruption and turmoil. The illegals are here now. They will be here tomorrow, they will continue to get sick and use our resources, they will get caught and sent back and there families will go on welfare until the breadwinner returns. They will educate there kids in better schools with the hope they lives will be better than their own. American political agenda has backed them in a corner, what would you do in their shoes? One american hand wants to hire them, one wants to smack them and send them back. You may not understand their language, you may view them as less than you because of their legal status or inclination to work unskilled jobs, but they are no less a person than you. You don't want to accept them because why? Because they broke our laws? Perhaps illegals should open recording studios instead. Self professed drug dealers and pimps are millionaire superstars because they entertain us. All seems to be acceptable then. The young hollywood starlets whom your daughters try to emulate are all whorish coked up princesses but we love them anyway. Ask yourself why this affects you personally and what difference it would make if Americans agreed that those already here need to become legal and those coming over are subjected to some sort of border security and maybe we can solve the problem as people. Just really tired of the whole I am an American, you are not, I count, you don't, let me translate that for you, is Taco Bell going to close, bullshit.