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Iran: is the writing on the wall?

(Author's note: this piece was written around 5:30 a.m. on Wednesday. Events may have changed between then and its publication, but I remain sadly convinced it is simply more "cheat and retreat" tactics.)

With Iran's President Ahmadinejad's letter to President Bush -- the first official communication between his country and ours in at least 20 years -- a lot of folks are hoping that this is a sign that the current tensions can and will be resolved peacefully. Me, I'm not so sure.

As several others have pointed out (most notably Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, who knows his stuff), the letter very closely follows the Koran's required steps before waging war: a call for the other side to accept Islam. To the devout, only once that offer has been made and rejected is it permissible to wage war. And Ahmadinejad is very, very committed to his faith. (Hat tip to Rodney Graves of the Wizbang Bomb Squad.)

Also, Iran and the world have been reminded that Israel is very much an Old Testament kind of nation, and doesn't put much stock in Jesus' "turn the other cheek" style of foreign policy. Recently, Israel's Vice Premier Shimon Peres did the unthinkable and answered Iran's belligerence in kind. Peres -- long considered one of the more dovelike Israeli leaders -- apparently got sick of Iran's declaring that Israel "should be wiped off the map" and would suffer the first blow should the United States or any other nation strike against Iran.

"They want to wipe out Israel ... Now when it comes to destruction, Iran too can be destroyed [but] I don't suggest to say an eye for an eye," Peres told Reuters. "Israel would defend itself under any condition but we don't look upon it as an Iranian-Israeli conflict exclusively... [Iran] is basically a danger to the world, not just to us."

(Hat tip here to Meryl Yourish)

And now Iran is threatening to formally withdraw from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty if its non-compliance is brought before the UN Security Council. As others have so ably described it, Iran's position seems to be "if you try to force us to abide by the treaty and play by the rules, then we won't play!" The practical translation: we're going to do it; we can either pretend not to and stay signed on to the treaty, or we can get rid of the tereaty.

I really hope that there can be a diplomatic solution to Iran's nuclear ambitions, but I don't see many options. Many times, diplomacy boils down to three options: carrot, stick, and compromise. And I don't see how any of those three could work.

Carrot: Offer Iran something it wants more than nuclear weapons, or at least will accept in lieu of them. There really isn't much we can offer them that is anywhere near as enticing as the respect (well, "fear" might be a better term) they will enjoy for possessing nuclear weapons, short of destroying Israel for them and completely withdrawing from the Middle East -- and that ain't gonna happen.

Stick: Demonstrate to them that we can force their compliance through punitive measures, such as trade embargoes, economic and diplomatic solutions, and military force. They've already shown that they don't give a tinker's damn about the first two, and the third has been quietly tried -- and found wanting. They simply don't think we have the ability or the will to carry out any threats.

Compromise: Each side gives a little to get a little. The problem is that possession of nuclear weapons is like virginity or pregnancy: there's no kinda-sorta, yes and no answer. Iran might propose that we let them have just a couple of nukes, and they promise to only use them on Israel, but that's about the only compromise I can see them accepting.

Now, I'm no trained diplomat or great political scholar or noted historian. But those are the options I see before us, and I don't see any of them working too well. Instead, I see Iran playing a variant of Saddam's decade-long "cheat and retreat" dance, taking two steps forward and one step back, until they actually have nuclear weapons (presuming they don't already) unless somehow stopped. And once they possess them, I doubt they will suddenly be overcome with sanity and responsibility like India and Pakistan were.

I really, really don't want to see the United States involved in yet one more front on the War On Terror. I sincerely hope that we can find a way to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of the Iranians -- who I have little doubt would promptly use them on Israel, most likely triggering a nuclear exchange across the Middle East, leading to the deaths of millions. But I see few signs of that happening peacefully.


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Comments (59)

I had one more suggestion, ... (Below threshold)

I had one more suggestion, which I have suggested in the past but will a country filled with ego adopt it? Does USA really want peace?
Why doesn't USA practice what it preaches?
Why doesn't it dive up all its nuclear warheads ?
Remember the clap needs two hands. One hand is USA the other is Iran.
If both move we will have the clap of peace. Let both the countries sit across the table and decide to never build nuclear bombs.
Let America stop amassing deadly weapons against humanity.
I hope people start understanding each other. It is good for our own futures.

Does Iran really want peace... (Below threshold)
Uncle Sam:

Does Iran really want peace?

I fear this fanatical crazy... (Below threshold)
virgo:

I fear this fanatical crazy in Iran will have to be dealt with before they achieve a nuclear weapon then another and so on. i dont see how any diplomacy will work with this wacko? He worships the bomb and thinks its His destiny to destroy Isreal.

And muslim uni
if the U.S. had wanted to, and was that way We would have nuked the mid east 40 years ago? but as you can see they are still there.

You cannot clap with anothe... (Below threshold)
Ed Rosenblatt:

You cannot clap with another hand if that hand holds a nuclear detonator.

Take out Iran's nukes now!

As USUAL the uninformed Dom... (Below threshold)
Goobers:

As USUAL the uninformed Dominionist are at the Racial Religious Armageddon End TImes Scenario once Again.
Really, 40+ years of Nukes, and YET THE EVANGLEICALS still do not UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY. You guys are Dangerous to the World.
And to the lives of People worldwide with this IDIOTIC Rambling. Stop spreading PROPAGANDA!

Virtually any industrialized nation today has the technical capability to develop nuclear weapons within several years if the decision to do so were made. Nations already possessing substantial nuclear technology and arms industries could do so in no more than a year or two, perhaps even as fast as a few months or weeks, if they so decided to. The larger industrial nations (Japan and Germany for example) could, within several years of deciding to do so, build arsenals rivaling those of the states that already have nuclear weapons. This list below mentions some notable capabilities possessed by certain states that could potentially be turned to the development of nuclear arsenals. This list represents only strong nuclear capability, not the political will to develop weapons. All of the listed countries have signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

* Canada Canada - Canada has a well developed nuclear technology base, large uranium reserves and markets reactors for civilian use. While Canada has the technological capabilities to develop nuclear weapons, there is no hard evidence it has done so, nor has Canada ever shown the intention to join the nuclear club outright, although rumors that Prime Minister John Diefenbaker had developed nuclear weapons are still present. Canada has been an important contributor of both expertise and raw materials to the American program in the past, and had even helped with the Manhattan Project. In 1959, NATO proposed to Canada that the RCAF assume a nuclear strike role in Europe. Thus in 1962 six Canadian CF-104 squadrons based in Europe were formed into the RCAF Nuclear Strike Force armed with B28 nuclear bombs (originally Mk 28) under the NATO nuclear weapons sharing program; the Force was disbanded in 1972 when Canada opted out of the nuclear strike role. Canada accepted having American W-40 nuclear warheads under dual key control on Canadian soil in 1963 to be used on the Canadian BOMARC missiles. The Canadian air force also maintained a stockpile of AIR-2 Genie unguided nuclear air-to-air rockets as the primary wartime weapon on the CF-101 Voodoo all-weather interceptor after 1965. Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau declared Canada would be a nuclear weapon-free country in 1971, and the last American warheads were withdrawn in 1984. Canada also produces the renowned CANDU reactor and has sold the technology to several countries, including China, South Korea, India, Romania, Argentina, and Pakistan. Several hybrids were developed in both India and Pakistan after Canada cut-off nuclear relations with those two countries after they detonated nuclear weapons.
* Germany Germany - While Germany is a signatory of the NPT, it has the means to easily equip itself rapidly with nuclear weapons. It has an advanced nuclear industry capable of manufacturing reactors, enriching uranium, fuel fabrication, and fuel reprocessing and it operates 19 power reactors producing one third of its total electrical needs. On the other hand, Germany has since 1945 made no serious attempts of acquiring or developing its own strategic delivery systems. Considerable numbers of nuclear weapons have been stationed both in East and West Germany during the Cold War, starting as early as 1955. Under the nuclear sharing scheme, West German soldiers would in theory have been authorized to use nuclear weapons provided by the US in event of a massive Warsaw Pact attack. Several dozen such weapons reputedly remain on bases in western Germany. Since 1998, Germany has adopted a policy of eliminating nuclear power, although slow progress had been made.[36] On January 26, 2006, the former defence minister, Rupert Scholz, said that Germany may need to build its own nuclear weapons to counter terrorist threats.[37]
* Japan Japan - While Japan has no political will for the acquisition of nuclear weapons, the country does make extensive use of nuclear energy in nuclear reactors, generating a significant percentage of the electricity in Japan. Japan has the third largest nuclear energy production after the U.S. and France, and plans to produce over 40% of its electricity using nuclear power by 2010. Significant amounts of plutonium are created as a by-product of the energy production, and Japan had 4.7 tons of plutonium in December 1995. Experts believe Japan has the technology, raw materials, and the capital to produce nuclear weapons within one year if necessary, and some analysts consider it a "de facto" nuclear state for this reason. Others have noted that Japan's most advanced space exploration rocket, the M-5 three-stage solid fuel rocket, is in fact a close copy of the U.S. LG-118A Peacekeeper ICBM. Japan has been quietly reconsidering its nuclear status because of the ongoing crisis over North Korean nuclear weapons.[38]
* Italy Italy - Italy has operated a number of nuclear reactors, both for power and for research. The country was also a base for the GLCM nuclear-armed ground-launched variant of the Tomahawk cruise missile during the 1980s, despite strong public outcry. While no evidence suggests that Italy intends to develop or deploy nuclear weapons, such a capability exists - estimates from as far back as the mid-80s show that Italy could begin and complete a nuclear weapons program in as little as 2 to 3 years.
* Lithuania Lithuania - Nuclear power reactors produce 77% of Lithuania's electricity and it has 2 of the world's most powerful reactors in its territory. However, one of these reactors was recently shut down. Lithuania has the means of legally acquiring fissile materials for power plants. Lithuania also has former launch sites for Soviet Union missiles. However, there is no political will at present to develop nuclear weapons in Lithuania.
* Netherlands Netherlands - Operates a power reactor at Borsele, producing 452 MW, which satisfies 5% of its electrical needs and has an advanced nuclear research and medical isotopes facility at Petten. Several Dutch companies are key participants in the tri-national Urenco uranium enrichment consortium. By the year 2000 the Netherlands had about 2 tonnes of separated reactor grade plutonium. There is no evidence for nuclear weapon programs in the Netherlands. Also in light of the fierce opposition against nuclear weapon deployment in the 1980s, it is highly unlikely that such a program will ever exist.
* Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia - In 2003 members of the government stated that due to the worsening relations with the USA, Saudi Arabia was being forced to consider the development of nuclear weapons. However, so far they have denied that they are making any attempt to produce them.[39] It has been rumored that Pakistan has transferred several nuclear weapons to Saudi Arabia, but this is unconfirmed.[40] In March 2006 the German magazine Cicero reported that Saudi Arabia had since 2003 received assistance from Pakistan to acquire nuclear missiles and warheads. Satellite photos allegedly reveal an underground city and nuclear silos with Ghauri rockets south of the capital Riyadh.[41] Pakistan has denied aiding Saudi Arabia in any nuclear ambitions.[42]

SO ARE YOU UNINFORMED PEOPLE gonna find some "AYRABS"
Muslims in Canada and start War their also?

DID you know this???... (Below threshold)
Goobers:

DID you know this???
In the groups of countries whose Mus­lim population number from 2% up to 25% of the population, there is one in Europe: Bulgaria, one in North Amer­ica: the United States, three in Latin America: Panama, Guyana and Suri­nam, and in the Caribbean: Trinidad and Tobago. In Africa there are several, in­cluding: Cameroon, Ghana, Liberia, Kenya and South Africa. In East Asia there are Bhutan, Burma, Nepal, Thai­land, Kampuchea and the Philippines. Three countries that fall into this category may surprise you: Israel, which regards itself as a Jewish state, has a sizable Muslim population, as does India, where Muslims make up approximately 11% of the total, and the United States with 2.5%. India and the former Soviet Union are two extraordinary cases where be­cause of the sheer size of the total popula­tions, Muslim minorities are 100 million (India) and 50 million (former Soviet Re­publics) - numbering far more than the whole population of most countries with Muslim majorities. (Sheer total numbers also account for a very sizeable number of Muslims in China - less than 2% of to­tal, but numbering nonetheless, more than 16 million).

Muslims represent a quarter to a half of the total population in Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, and Nigeria.

Next are countries where from 51% to 88% of the people are Muslims. Notable among this group are: Albania in Eu­rope; the sub-Sahara African countries of Benin, Chad, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Ivory Coast, Malawi, Sierra Leone, Tan­zania, and Togo; the Arab countries of Sudan, and Lebanon; and in South Asia the countries of Brunei, Malaysia, Indo­nesia, and Sri Lanka. It is significant to note that Indonesia is the largest Muslim nation in terms of population - with about 171 million Muslims.

Lastly, countries whose populations are 89% to 100% Muslim form a long list. The largest of these are: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Libya, Mali, Maurita­nia, Morocco, Niger, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Somalia, Syria, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.

To conclude this statistical survey of the Islamic world, it deserves notice that of the five countries which have the most Muslims, regardless of their percentage of the total population, none is an Arab country:

SO are YOU GOING TO KILL ALL THESE PEOPLE?
YOU better get busy you raving unedcuated lunatics.
Heres a STARTER LIST for you insaniacs;
Cameroon, Ghana, Liberia, Kenya and South Africa. In East Asia there are Bhutan, Burma, Nepal, Thai­land, Kampuchea and the Philippines
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Lord Know wonder we don't have peace.....
WOULD YOU STUDY FIRST!!!!!

Seems JAY TEA has convinced... (Below threshold)
Goobers:

Seems JAY TEA has convinced himself....
Of what and HOW he got to the conclusions he did is a mystery.
I suppose its because he's letting BIAS and RELIGIOUS hatred drive his Journalism, if one COULD call it that, instead of USING his intelligence and SORTING thru more coherent factual information.

You ARE NUTZ if you think more war will solve anything. And IF you ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS WAR GET YOUR LAZY COLLEGE ASS DOWN TO THE RECRUITERS OFFICE and drop your Blog, its really a terrible BLOG anyway.
GO FIGHT CHICKEN or SHUT UP.

The difference is Iran is o... (Below threshold)
Dick Morrass:

The difference is Iran is openly expressing what they will do with their weapons?

while the parallels are rou... (Below threshold)
GRY:

while the parallels are rough, this reminds me ominously of japan and the lead up to the pacific war, particularly in respect to 2 points:

-iran: withdrawal from the non-proliferation treaty versus japan: withdrawal from the league of nations

-iran: this business with the 12th iman versus japan: a sense of invincibility notably associated with the myth that was born of the kamikaze ("divine wind") storms that repelled the mongol invasions.

as bad as pearl harbor was though, the stakes are quite a bit higher in terms of potential damage inflicted on iran's enemies....

Dick:Yep - and I s... (Below threshold)

Dick:

Yep - and I see no reason to doubt they really mean to use them.

Goobers -

Take your meds. You're rambling. War DOES have a tendency to solve things, BTW - Imperial Japan is no more, and the Thousand Year Reich didn't exactly reach it's expiration date.

Remember to vote Democrat i... (Below threshold)
Lurking Observer:

Remember to vote Democrat in November!!

---Goobers' buddies

i should add this in conclu... (Below threshold)
GRY:

i should add this in conclusion to my above comments:

the point of my comparison is that, if history is any guide, then iran suffers from a myth of invincibility that must be pricked sooner than later.

i fear that we'll someday look back with regret on these days before the s**t really hit the fan.

Hmmm.*shrug* Irani... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

*shrug* Iranian leaders seem to still think that they could actually use nuclear weapons and not pay the ultimate price for it. Something that can probably be laid at the feet of the various liberals out there.

Frankly if we're really that interested in peace and non-proliferation then we need to express to Iran that any use of nuclear weapons will result in the utter destruction of every single city or town in Iran. Without hesitation, compunction or restriction.

[email protected] Goober... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

@ Goober

And may I say that you are most welcome here Goober. Compared to some of the other liberal nutcases we've got around here, you're actually simulating sanity rather well.

Good job!

Goobers seems to think we a... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Goobers seems to think we are in a war against Muslims. Not sure when he/she/it thinks that war started, but to my knowledge no such war exists at this time.

SO are YOU GOING TO KILL ALL THESE PEOPLE?

Nah, just the real whack job nutballs that want to countriues "off the map".

You ARE NUTZ if you think more war will solve anything.

Yes, and appeasement worked so well with Saddam. Ignorance was a real winner with al Qaeda and the Taliban. I'd like to reminder Goober (apropos name if there ever was one) that 50 million Arabs/Muslims, the ones he claims we're at war with, are now free after decades of untold repression because of US, the United States. So GFY.

And IF you ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS WAR GET YOUR LAZY COLLEGE ASS DOWN TO THE RECRUITERS OFFICE

This is the most tiring, god-awful and braindead response. Hey, tell you what, Goober, you want liberation and peace and prosperity for everyone? Then you get off your sorry, diaper-dandy ass, go down to your local bank branch, withdraw all your money and give it to the third-world country of your choice. In fact, get all your liberal friends to give up their possesions and money and clove-cigarette habits and follow your brilliant example. (See, it's just as dumb as your "well you go down to the recruiter's office...). What a f***stick.

P.S. Quite cutting and pasting without references. At least link your sources. Sheesh.

How about this for a diplom... (Below threshold)
Shitake:

How about this for a diplomatic solution: promise Iran it will experience only 20 major mushroom clouds instead of 30.

Jay Tea,Thanks for... (Below threshold)
Rodney Graves:

Jay Tea,

Thanks for the hat tip and the bump over on BombSquad.

As regards the thesis and the comments...

As a matter of well established international law Iran has been at war with the United States since the seizure of our embassy there low those years ago.

Iran has engaged in local wars and has continually threatened its neighbors with violence.

Iran has assiduously worked to develop nuclear weapons and has promised to use them against the only functional democracy in the region.

Now they issue the formulaic warning that proceeds Jihad as they are upgrading their air defences with new systems from Russia.

The issue is not will we be at war with Iran. The issue is when we will take the war to them.

The sooner we do so the lower the cost in blood for both our Armed Forces, and the population of Iran.

Time and past time to hurt them, and to hurt them badly.

Out Here
Rodney Graves
[email protected]

RodneyYour right on!... (Below threshold)
virgo:

Rodney
Your right on! that formulaic warning that proceeds jihad was given to the president yesterday,and is an oppurtunity for our whole country to convert to Islam or be attacked. the maniac from Iran is already at war with us & desperately hoping to aquire the bomb if He does not already have it? a threat that cannot be ignored..

Why are most people here s... (Below threshold)

Why are most people here speaking in such an illogical manner? For once let us try and behave in a mature manner.
First of all do not twist my words, I am only trying to spread peace and so many racist morons are trying to spread hate against people.
Are you people also against Islam? Let us say you don't trust the present Iranian government because it is not a puppet in the hands of USA, do you also not trust Islam? Are you against all of us?
We have always tried to spread peace and understanding, while people like you have created monsters like Osama and Saddam. It is innocent Muslims who have to bear it. Even innocent Americans are caught in between all this.
Look at September 11th so many innocent people lost their lives because of monsters created by the American government- Osama the evil pig.
Saddam attacked Iran on the orders of USA. The evil kaffir-Saddam.
We should stop all of this friends. Let us learn to value each other. I value human life, why don't all of you?
Jay, fellow human, both our blood is red being please learn to be more responsible before trying to spread evil messages which lead to hate.
Because remember in the end the truth and peace will win. Peace will win. Because all humans want peace and not war.
We want to live in peace with Jews, Chritians, Hindus, and everybody else. Let us unite and spread the message of peace!

Folks, I think they already... (Below threshold)

Folks, I think they already got a bomb or two somewhere and are about to use it [them]. The question is what time zone they intend to use it in. They'll try to bluff that the ones they bought are ones they made and they have more. Course it won't work and we'll sadly wipe them off the map, contaminate the atmosphere for decades if not millenia, and make "more enemies."

Time to stock up on your Iodine tablets and bottled water.

MU,The theocracy w... (Below threshold)
Rodney Graves:

MU,

The theocracy which masquerades as the "Islamic Republic" of Iran has been waging war against the West in general, and the United States in particular, for nearly 20 years.

WE WILL NOT SUBMIT

The West's tolerace of religious practice does not extend to Dhimmitude.

WE WILL NOT SUBMIT

What passes for leadership amongst the Mullahcracy in Iran has been poking a stick at "the Great Satan" for nearly two decades. Soon we will see if the stick was long enough.

WE WILL NOT SUBMIT

The call as to wether this will be a war against a rogue terrorist sponsoring regime or a war against all the followers of the "prophet" will largely be decided by those misguided followers.

WE WILL NOT SUBMIT

Clear?

Out Here
Rodney Graves
[email protected]

"We have always tried to sp... (Below threshold)

"We have always tried to spread peace and understanding, while people like you have created monsters like Osama and Saddam."

Um... I don't know if you noticed, but both of those guys are Muslims. The claim that we "created" bin Laden is flat-out wrong (OBL got his military start while fighting the Soviets (not the US) in Afghanistan, and his funding came from other Muslims, mostly the Saudis (the US was funding a completely separate group of guys against the Soviets, in a different part of the country).

Of the worst places to be in the world, many of them are made much, much worse by Islamic extremists (look up recent and not-so-recent happenings in Sudan, for example).

Until folks like yourself admit that, and start speaking out against them, loudly and clearly, while standing up to the hardliners of your own faith who back them, we can't trust your claims about Islam.

Muslim Unity,On th... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

Muslim Unity,

On the one hand you say "I am only trying to spread peace", and yet in the SAME FREAKING SENTENCE you say "so many racist morons".

So much for spreading peace.

England is the beiggest thr... (Below threshold)
avatar singh:

England is the beiggest threat to the world and not iran or Israel. ameivcna foreign policy is dtermined by british agents insiad usa and in london and not by isralies as braitian would likve the world to belive and thus distract from its hold on american polity.

year--1997
Irak is right in demanding ouster of anglo-saxon spies from hollowed Iraki's soil.In name of uno, and before that leage of friends ,and now Amnesty International, this heyena country called england has installed a lot bof speis all over World and has virtually hijacked Americans to do their domestic and foreign policies for furtherance of british (engkland's ) interest than even American 's interest.

These days for last few years a lot of Kurdish refugees(who by the way are more aryans than all the europeans combined-though it is irrelevant here)are escaping from Turkey because of Turkish pressure. But nobody has ever stopped Turkey from having her air space nor has anyone bobed them. and why should anyone?Who has given right to a handfull of countries to be a policeman? Could they dare demand such thing at time of so called cold war? Every december,ever since gulf war there is a show of bullying tactics by anglo-saxons in middle east. There is really no ground but excuse is created because this race feels uplifted when others are insultated. Also there is a low cost exercise in bullying any other nation by military postures. Why should Iraq not have weapons as he desires?in 1981, when the israelis had bombed the iraqui nuclear reacto(a few days before going critical) it was britain)govt, and british media) who had vwhemently opposed Israeli daring action and did a lot of anti-jewish propaganda. Atleast Begin had a reason to fear from the arab enemy of israel. even in '82 Lebanon war it was britain which was most vociferous in criticizing Isreali militay action at the same time minimizing the Isreali Airforce's achievement in destroying Bacca's valley missiles through high tech method.In fact What americans did in gulf war was what Isreali had achieved way back in '82 in Lebanon war and America obtained that military know-how from Israelis after Lebanon war. But gulf war is justifiable on basis of military superirity but not Lebanon war. In fact when an american general said that america learned a lot from Israelis' achievement then the american defense minister Winnberg said that itAmerica learned not from Israeli but from British. Ofcourse we all know that Wnnberg was (awarded sir) more of anbritish defense minister than american one. He was pro-british and anti-jewish (and antirussian and all others aswell). In fact in lebanon war the american foreign secratary was changed because the british did not like Hague's attitude. This much britain exercises influence in american affairs. Now having installed all the stooges in Arab world britain has discarded her sham veil of Arabists and openly insults(through america ofcouse because on own britain is not even a fourh grade power)the arab world.Talking about the stooge, have you wondered why these days even Yeltsin's bad health no longer makes any headline news in anglosaxon world?Before any cold that Yeltsin had was niticed and still before that any peon from Russia had a headline news ' material. The reaon is simple. Britain has installed in Russia not only a mad man likes yelstin but also a second line of stooge successor to him. After Yelstin usefullness is over then he will be replaced by those second line of british stooge who at the moment are already controlling Russia and destroying her everyday. Democracy ,as understood today, basically means any system which gives free hand to britain to exploit other races. If their is one example of what an evil this so called capitalism is and what a saviour communism(britain does not dislike communism, she dislikes other's prosperity and independence whether it comes from communism, nationalism or what ever)is: this ruinous example of Russia is the real lesson. China is right to hold on to her nationalistic pursuit. It really is a war between anglo-saxons and the rest of the world. It is a race war.Sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it would be and this danger would be sorted out.

You remember that at the height of cold war in mid 80's there was a lot of activities of C.N.D. You would expect that with so called cold war finished, this C.N.D. would be asking to the british peoples to leave the nuclear weopons given to her,out of pity and filiaty, by the United states. But exactly opposite happened. C.N.D. has been defunct since than. It is as if that was a front of the british govt. to show by way of propaganda that that country had some moral voice.In other words, C.N.D. was a sham created by the british to give them respectability. Ofcourse when a non-anglosaxon country aould perfect their nuclear weopon,as France rightly did, then there would be a lot of hue and cry by the anglo-saxons' media. France and china are right in strenghtening their independent military power. The real danger to world comes from england and her anglosaxons agents. France understand that and Germany was a fool in not supporting France in Nato meeting this Summer. Just as Cnd has been proved a sham of british propaganda, more so is the sham which goes by the name of amnesty international. It is interesting that as soon falkland war started, within a few weeks this amnesty international presented a dozier on Argentina. In the same way as soon gulf war started(soon after Iraqui's intervention in kuwait) the same amnesty international presented a dozier and report on Iraqui's atrocities. an fact many of the amnesty allegations were just a copy of what british media was saying and which later on proved to be fabrication and great big lies. But bthis did not dent the reputation of amnesty international. british propaganda ensured that. IN '88 when Dalia lama,at the height of Tibetan disturbances, visited west, the then british prime minister refused to meet Him. Later on with the demise of Russia and usefullness of China gone and with manipulation to keep power in Hongkong somehow intact, the same british media and government ,like dog, started barking at China. It is interesting that amnesty international selectively targets those very countries(as it did china after cold war) who are out of faviour(because they would not be a brtish sttoge)of the british media and govt. This is not surprizing as amnesty international is the creation of british govt, and british media. england with the most appaling record of human rights in last 200 years of her evil rule, needed some organisation to keep the others from chrging england off her past and current evil practices. In other words it went for aggresive posture in propaganda war so that others can be demoralized and stopped from ponting out the real evil which is england. That is why amnesty international is one armour of the british lies to exploit the rest of the world. Amnesty international must be ignored and an independent human watchdog (which england will simply ignore) created. One purpose of amnesty international is to create an atmosphere for hatred towards the would be vitims of british exploitation so that a victim could be blamed to have deserved the consequences. That is why ,now amnesty international sometimes threatens China, sometimes India and etc. India because india needs to be cowed down and also so that India does not make nuclear wepon and thus feel free from future american(read english and anglosaxon)aggression. This is all to create an atmoshphere of mis information. The other countries are also responsible(out of sheer inferority complex) for giving these instuments of british propaganda so much imporatance. If they simply ignore and then the british lies and then themselves go in offensive(they can do it-no problem)against british exploitation and propaganda then tose countries would not in such dire strait as they are now. Think, this deteriration has happened in only last 20 years(thogh the british have been at this game for a long time but they were not always succesful when others have been vigilant).Ignoring and fighting all this anglosaxons propaganda, the other races(yes it comes to that) must unite and support each other against this common enemy england. The other nations should also go nuclear and assemble as much arm as possible ,collaborate on it and ignoring this anglosaxon race they must be prepared for war which tjhen would be prevented otherwise it would come inevitably. The other nations need to arm themselves to protect themselves from anglo saxon race. Thinking any other way is simply kidding oneself. And it can be done and will be done.


WE throw a challenge to these low lifes-if the English feel themselves
ao powerful them let them attack and win even Irak(already weaken by u.n.sanctions)without the help of u.n.sanctioins(that means Irak would have same freedom to acquire arms and means and Arabs and Israeli had in thier war)
and with out u.s.a. England is neither Isreal of today nor Sparta of yesterday.Let them be reminded that at height of thier empire in 1917, England was almost defeated
by Germans when German army's 3/4 th division was concentrated on Eastern front. These english are that weak and coward people.But thir mouth will have to shut for ever
when all the whites ,European and Thirld world unite against this english disese.
There is no point in telling them truth, they understand only one thing which they will soon get-tatal beating physically-the only language these animals understand. Hitler,who these worship
was wrong about the jews who were only british agents-what Hitler said about jews applied not to jews but to the english(anglo-saxons).race-pity he did not do the the british what should have been done instead. Well It is never too late.


For all those who talk of globalization and protection of intellectual property right, a small news which was never in prominent place in any of english speaking papers or news but was very much reported in French media. In the last weeks of October 98 was reported in French papers that 4 different French members of European Parliament were going to raise the question of industrial espionage of some 100 each of French and German companies by england in collaboration with u.s.a. and other anglo-saxon countries like Autralia and new zealand. In other words they same countries who made a lot of hue and cry over Indias nuclear test and who are the ones pushing for intellectual property rights and globalization. Thier modus operandi? Checking all satellite bases communication(telephone, fax, internet,etc)with help of klistening devices in anglosaxon countries and spying ao all the talks and messages all over world.This illegal activity is cordinated in england. European countries are loosins billions of dollars each years through leak of confidential techiqe and discovery. Apart form the fact that for tea,china, spices and plants this thief country england never paid anything for others' intellectual property right(why does royal doulton or british tea company not pay royalty to China?) this thief country england has done theft of German technology like urea making ang consequently ammunition making. In fact Standarsd oil company of america made a lot of theft of BAAs. a Germany company and many of the bombs which fell on Germany came from german tech. stolen by anglosaxon thieves england and america. That is not counting stolen from germans the tech. to make nuclear bomb and rockets. With these stolen technology has this anglo-american race been able to bully the rest of the world. And it wants to freeze the DIFFERENCE between it and other races in stone-for ever so that it can rule others unhindered. By the same mechanism it destroyed japanes and other Asian econmis.

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jews -how england has used them for british 'end and detrimental to the jew's interests.

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It is very interesting that the same type of english people(who are anti-communists, anti-blacks, anti-muslims, anti-catholics) started the same sort of propaganda(like used against russians and communists) against The Germans.the Frenchs and Europeans in general. First England did not want germany united(though during cold war it suggested that only Russians are against it). soon after German reunification and even before disintegration of Soviet union ,England changed the lie-tactics(through media and government) against Europe. There is one more thing. nato was supposed to counter warsaw pact, with the latter gone there was no discussion as to nato should be wound uop or not. Europe does not need nato. Europe can have and should have her own defence system as is the Germo-Franco_Italian_Spanish collaboration. that European defence pact must be stengthened rather than germany supporting nato. Actually england needs nato to prop up its nasty influence in military matters. With the help of usa and nato has england been able to prop up her influence. In fact england is ant-Europe and through nato it wants to keep a tab on european affairs and not let Europe get strong on her own. As england can not do this own her own it has let America involved in it(during empire days england hardly shared power with America but it needs America now). Germany or Europe does not need nato. In fact nato is the greatest enemy(through england)of germany and europe. How can england be so much anti-Germany,working dso much against German interests and be a major parterner in common defence pact?It is a ludicrous situation. England manipulates financial market(in last8 years through recession and what not london market has risen 3 fold while far Eastern markets-who are the main producers of consumer goods-has fallen drastically.). That is why it pumped up the value of pound before joing european sustem-ofcourse it was unsustainable but for devaluation of pounds the Germans and some jews(as said by bbc) were blamed. As england does not want German or any other European country to get economically strong and be financially independent of london market, it opposed Single currency vehemently.Even a so called left-paper like Guardian was suggesting that if Shroeder(of german spd party) were the chancellor than he would give more say(than others in europe) to England-so it would have been good. In other word they want special treatment for themselves. Why? When they talk of sovereignity is england not the main country pushing, threatning and cajoling the thirld world to accept World bank and IMF(created by america for englands interest) so called structral reform regardless of people's wishes. If other countries's destiny can be controlled by bureacrats in IMF. then why not England's by European's bureacrats? England is the most bureactic and centralised country in europe with all the regional making machinery smashed by the government with the help of bbc and all other propaganda machinery. And that England talks of local development and burocracy of European commission.Single european currency is a must for Europe not only for european economic advantage and stability but also because it will smash england's power of financial market manipulation. In Fact the rest of Europe should actively discourage england to join Euro, because then [email protected] financial power will be smashed and it will be good news for Europe and the rest of the world. Not only England want to eat rotten, viral infected meat but also wants to force feed the the rotten thing to the Europeans. When germany resists this nasty move on part of england to take rotten meat ,then germany-already a villain in their eyes -becomes a super villain. As soon as the news leaked out of viral infevted meats, the first reaction of bbc was not as to why it happened but ''Can Europe ban the xport legally?-has it got the right?''. there was never a hue and cry about cruel treatment of cows who were forced fed on infected animal meats(cows are vegetarian). This sort of so called commercial farming is the thing which has been pushed down the through of rest of world through GAT. which was made to suit anglo00saxons' interest.France was right to oppose gat in this form. If the similar thing happened in any other country in the world then this the same british media including bbc would hape said a cruel, primitive practice for rotten meat with no regard for peoples health or [email protected] welfare. In fact for showing so much cruelty to animals in this case it is not the animals which should be killed but the peoples(british farmers and their media propagandists). There was and is always a support for such disgusting affairs by the british peoples and it shows what sort of people they are. we will british meat even if it is rotten. in fact there was hardly a influx of foreign meats followinf disclosure. This phenomenan of using rotten british product is not confined to beaf-it extends to everything . in fact protectionism at home and forced infiltration abroad is the name of game in england. And this is the country talking about liberalization. That is why british products,thogh rotten in quality are high in price. All this because of underlying protectionism. That is also why you will not only not get fresh ,healthy products but also you do not find variety in british life. In the name of traditional(to prect the internal market) britain sells to own people and a few foreign stooges, the same rotten cheese, the same low quality high priced car and same rotten but high price arms(Saudis and others are fed with it). Actually this clone like cancerous feature is very much english way of life. the english live in ame only 4 or 5 varieties of house, their furniture is the same 4 to five varietis their cothes are they same rotten unsmart types and their food is the sme rotten type with rotten ingediants. Then why do the englisjh live? for extacting money for money sake. this ia feature of parasitic and cancerous race. the same thing they have exported to where they went. that is why all anglo saxons countries show lack of variety.and it is the engl;ish who accused Russians of imposing their culture destroying variety in soviet union. As to talk of this supporting own rotten meat and drug industry(tobacco) for the sake of jobs, why can not the thirld world support her own industry for their jobs and prosperity. atlest thirld world still produces better quality food and clothes and even car than the general british joe is used to. When agitation was going on in South Africa in '86 against apartheid, the bbc reprted in support of apartheid that otherwise in case of sanctions against s.africa it would be british profits and jobs which would be lost.Such peoples who benefit by others misery should be made jobless. In fact capitalism and so called freedom for them means freedom to exploit other nations and give them misery. For themselves english never practice free market-it is for foreign suckers. England is a protected and market for themselves and their rotten products. For example, Honda(which rescued b.l.) and rovers are the same cars but rovers cost more because it is british car and because they sometimes put a thin veneer of wood in it. Bearing in mind the british homes have hardly got a furniture of solid good wood, the english are selling their cars not on engineering but on carpentry and tatty presentation. And as these shopkeepers never have class, they make a lot of noise about class too. in fact what british media says and what truth is 180 degreee apart.For foregn goods(car, consumer items etc) the english would be very fussy and wanrt to get at least price abut for british goods they would create all lies and excuses to pump up the price and sell. That ids why the advanced countries in Europe and far east are in recession and britain and other anglo-saxon countries (which except america is only primary producers of land-oil.timbers. etc-land stolen from others in last 250 years)are in boom. It is not even alive and let live. english like to wreck others ' prospect of prosperity or happiness. For example.england knew that it had no outside chance of staging soccer world cup.but it put forward proposal nevertheless at last minute at a time when Germany was well favourite for that. Why?-to wreck chances for GERmany to stage one.So Germany lost not only that glory but also a lot of money to immense satisfaction of english press and people. unemployment in Germany could have eased up if it had got the ofeerr to stage world cup, but no. And it is this Germany who agreed to british request to delay monetary union for 2 years (When britain is not going to be part of it even) . Had that monetary union come about earlier, German chancellor would not have been facing this problem as nhe is now. But then england has always survived on folly of these suckers who do not know who thier real friend or enemy are.nato which ia realyy an agent for english interest(and broadly anglosaxon interest) should have been rejected by Germany and also euro-fighter in place of truelly european (excluding britain ofcourse)military alliance. but Germany lost that chance and new cold war(egland has always done cold wars,it is too coward to enter in direct confontration without firsat weakening enemy with lies and propaganda machinery likebbc and others)has begun. For those who do not belive this let me give an example. Soon after fall of Berlin war, the editor of Sunday times(who is reknowned racist, anti communist and anti poor,pro capitalist and later came out to be anti Germans and antiFrench aswell) said on bbc that to protect nato and english interests ineurope ,may be americans should get out of germany and than british garrison can stay there because americans would be resented as occupying foreign forces while britain can simply say that they are european aswell and so stay. This from a man who is European hater and is one of leading propagandists against Germany (as he was against russia).So there you are-cat is out. The english are a foreign intusive element in europe through nato. In fact england should not have been allowed in european community ,barring this england must not be allowed to join european single currency if one wants to insure stability and cohesive stength of Euro.It is very interesting that the same editor of sundays times who rave about like a mad dog against germans ,French, Europe in general and ofcourse against blacks and socialists was also a sort of adviser to lady diana. That lady [email protected] most of the friends during her fame have been what can be described, for lack of better word, a representative of greedy '80s is significant. Diana was a representative of that greedy shomful period called 80s and her main freinds were the same exploters which made 80s'climate of greed and shelfishness possible. Diana was minly liked by lower class shopkeepers and plumbers class -in other word whose forefatehrs were lumpen proletariat only a generation or two. She was neither aristocratic in taste nor her freinds were. but the same diana -a darling of greedy exploters with no class_ is being pumpep up by british people as some angel. This is all to give themselves importance. While bbc and british media always ignore others countries'important and good news, the other countries should also ignore british media and operate the same volantary blanket on british news(which in reality are not important anyway). Therew is no point in giving exposure and importance to the very propaganda machinery(british media) which though belonging to not even a 4th leage in military is a dangerous adeversary for spreading lies and demoralisation (they call it cold war-the only war they are effective at).Even you see what happened after cold war then you realize that what a shame the cold war was adn only for the benefit of britain. Since then soviet empire is gone but britain still boasts of evil empire called british empire which existed before soviet empire. If it was all right for russins (as was advisedby britain ) to exchange pltanks for tracters, to exchange empire for so called freedom the why did not britain disban empire in 1880(the same level of power as enjoyed by Russia in 1970): why britain not stop forcefully imposing a sell of arms on saudi arabia?propaganda was that soveit union was governed by a select few without any say of parliament. Who were those western media peoples advising Yelstin to storm the parliaments and if possible kill the parlimentarians if they do not approve of yelstil plan to sell Russia to English tobacco and liquers interests and english pimps? Ofcoursre it were mainly english and anglosaxons who were advising jelstin to take all the measures to be sell Russia cheap. soon after storming of parliament yelstin,with the support of anglosaxon media brought a constitutional changeds to give himself a dictatorial power. But then he is a western(read anglosaxon stooge) therefore he was hailed for that in western media. The result. There is only one thing selling in all earst while communist country-Anglo-american [email protected] product(drug), british and [email protected] and liquers and prostitution. English never was, is or will be a language of culture but certainly it has become a language of prostitution and drugS(cigarettes) advertisement. Therfore through that mad, weak, ill man Yelstin these anglosaxons have made prostitutesof women, wifes and girlfriends; have left the helpless children on the cold, cruel streets and left the olds(who worked hard for their pensionable life) pauperforced to beg on the street. Even full war does not do that. Soviet union had better droppeped hundred hydrogen bombs on England and then gone pauper at least it would have satisfaction of having levelled with the enemy. (In fact in cold war russsiac did not need to target anywhre, if britain had the first possibility of being annhilated then war(because it was controlled by british and pro-british elements in states) would never have arisen.Cold war against Russia was started for the asame reason as cold war against Germany has started. TO keep britain in picture as it gives them a sense of false position, to harass other country and wreck others economy. IN august90, the soviets had captured some persons with british passports who were pumping up False notes of Roubles in russia. IN other words they were british agents who ,by putting illegal tenders were making rouble go down in value and ultimatily wrecking russian economy. THe english arew very careful of their savings and pension and economy. their deeds in other countries must be remembered to get even. Therfore english nature is to be cancerous like low form of lifes'like spread and to be vey intusive,and to pass as parasite srom one host to another(they call it cold war). Oher country have no choice to to neuatralize this cancer and remove it forcefully and bodily because otherwise the same game would be going on for ever.The main aim of england in europe is(and has been( to create a rift between germany and France or Russia or whosoever is strong so that england can play her intussive role in europe and bullying role in world. Having failed in creating this rift, the same english propagidists are saying that Europe should not become strong because it will create a rift and possible war between Europe and America. Why? When according to the same english propagandists american cultutre is(or should remain) predominantly european then why should be such a rift. Gradually with europe getting powerfull, this idea of rift will be instilled into americans just as a cold war was started between earstwhile allies by the english agents in media in britain and america. But why should america be influenced-it should not but it is : so let us examine the role of english propagandists in shaping up american foreign and domestic policy.
This all started soon after Nepoleanic war when in 1816 to 1817 The english again attacked america in her southern flanks and the day was saved only because of some French navy mercinaries and French speaking population of lousiana and such states along with non-english origin americans. But the english invaders infiltrated among that population of Sothern america which today calls itselvesves bible belt (whose god has always been english royalty and who worship only stolen money).By 1850 to 1860 England attacked earswhile friend (in Nepoleanic war) Russia in crimea along with earstwhile foe(now controlled by unpopular english sooge) France.-how the same pattern is so predictable in case of this intusive,cancerous exploitative race called english and anglosaxons. At that very time England was activelly supporting the slave exploitation,in fact all the big plantation owners were english derived and they owned loyalty not to flag of Unitated states of america but to England. -in other words they were agents of foreign country who wnted to keep south america occupy as foreign power again. The civil war in america was not only supported with money and arms by england but rather england was the instigater of american civil war in order to keep whole of america enslaved and if not possible atleast those parts (South) where it could call upon fillial loyalty. It was trully a war of race-not against whites and blacks but against anglosaxons versus blacks, Irish, other european peoples .THe same would be repeated in future. The confederacy was a traitor to america-a british agents;but ironically that same confedercy flag today is being propaganised by thier descendents as symbol of american independence and patriotism.Having lost the proxy war england resorted to the one thing it specialises-terrorism and misinformation. Abraham lincon was murdered by the person very sympathatic to britsh cause.(against Nepolean england had sent several terrorist squads-that is why Nepolean had to declare Himself an Emperor to maintain the clear line of successecion to protect glorious French Revolution). It is very interesting that most of the american presidents assasinated were those whom England did not want being elected. By the end of civil war ,instead of disinfranchasising the british supporters(of southern states) and taking away their land or atleast redistributing evenly the stolen land,the american govt. was pursuaded by britain to spare them and let those southern traitors keep all the stolen land so that drug(tobacco) and cotton would be of assured supply to england. Ofcourse by that time because of fall of Nepolean(brought about not by military might but by conspiracy to embroile the Europeans among each other( conspiracy hatched in london-that was the only english contribution to nepoleans' fall-forget waterloo whereAustrians and prussians had contributed most militarily):consequently england got free reign to exploit the rest of the world and amassed wealth.With that new loot the english shopkeepers started not only factory but also bought titles(Always a purchagable item in englad) and started giving themselves high sounding titles and names. With that they started the rumour that english people had class and aristocracy and america could rub some off it if it was willing to ply right and play right. During that period england started propaganda of herself being friend of america though in britain news it hardly gave any importance to americans except with contempt. When the first world war came, england had already infiltrated in the american decision making process.(Thogh some of southern traitors had fled to Canada, most had remained to slowly spread their cancerous tantackles tn American govt.The first world war had been started by england to destroy Germany and Russia at the same time. ENgland had got envious of german prosperity (by 1870 Germany without an empire had taken over england in industrial).Encyclopaedia brittanica writes(anyone can verify that) about Bismarck that Bismarck was aggresive in domestic policy but very very peacefull in foreign policy because he did not interfere with Others' empire making process.Try telling that to the then French and Austrian peoples. This only shows how the mind of england and anglosaxon race works even today. The same encyclopaedia hardly gives any cridit of roman empire to romans or Italians saying it was an world empire so Italians ((even of Rome) had little to do with with. Take all the credit for a bandit cum shopkeeper's empire(britishwhich lasted 100 to 150 yers but no credit to Romans for an empire of much better quality and longer duration.anyway during 1st world war the slogan of england was freedom for world from german aggraessin who wanted to take away world. This was from a shopkeeper's country who had imposed devastating assault on the whole world not only economically and poltically but also environmentally. The evil was giving a slogan to be spared!Thogh the main intentoion of Germans was against Russia(to which england had secretly given support) on [email protected] backstabbing Germans took decision to sort out the English aswell. With all the resources of empire(men and arms not to speak of money) England could not do anything against Germans who had been embroiled(as was planned by englad-Belgium's souverneighty was an excuse)on two fronts. This shows the inferiority of English military power at the height of her power(but then it never won war on stength but through indescrept looking spys.What hitler said of Jews was all wrong,it never applied to jews.Hitler was barking at wrong tree. What hitler said of jews aplleis only to english race and not anybodyselse. The jews in freemasonery are english agents-in freemasonery are many peoples other than jews. in fact freemasonary is [email protected] race(english) spy machinary as are all the british jornalists who are still working-after clearance from brtitish spy service-mm5-as british spy.The jews got all the blame because their very small fish-main mastermind of international ring to take over world for its own gedy use has been england and no one else. Anyway ,English army and navy were so ineffective against German might that by 1917 england was loosing the war.Then come the immense pressure to declare war against germany by america. -in name of democracy.before that democracy word had not been used to defend anything. Now facing defeat england started talking of democracy just as it started talking of democratic reform 99 years after ruling Hongkong-an year before departure.Democracy from then will mean not what it is supposed to mean in dictionary meaning-but a special kind of system anywhere in the world which protects english interest and which allows england to exploit others race. A very famous news moghul (jewish) had been stopped from running american presidency because he might not have been inclined to rescue england in the 1st world war. Anywhay, the southern constitiuency was pressing hard for america to come to rescue englad who was staring defeat and thus loosing the prospect of enslaved nations who would have been feed from defeat of england. America did come to aid of england and it was called end of isolationalism. But this end of isolationalism would be tolerated only when it suits english interest against others and not in case of others like freedom for Irish people in northern Ireland(an occupied part of Ireland). But american intervention was not decisive-Russian winter wasAs it would be another war 20 years later. But the pattern had been setup for america to make her polices to suit english interest not only in domestic policy but also in foreign affairs. IN fact in pursuing such policy America is acting against the home countries of majority of her citizens. But who says in democracy majority rules . Who says in democracy peoples have choice. Democracy as practised and efined by the british media propagandists is any system of government -even by a pschotic like Jelstin in russia-which benefits british business and gives jobs to british people at the same time making pauper and slave ,stooge of english interest. Between the 2 world war,even before the rise of Hitler in germany the british agents and british sympathisers(who used to keep a photo of quun victoria in '20s as object of worship)started a terror of murder, killings and what not against not only the blacks but also catholics. This is how british always operate. first let be it white versus blacks. then whites versus jews. all one at time otherwise victims will be forwarned and retaliate . then white versus white catholics. then whites vesus white Germans. They do like that in nations they do ti peoples. only if the people realize that and finish these parasites off once for all! Those very confederecy flag bearers had recruited a lot af other whites to theuir cause and later on they would attck those whites also whose origin did not look like from england-one by one. Those same racists were the first to pressurise america to join 2nd world war for saving britain. so their racism was and is not for whote rasc but for a shopkeepers'race derived from Phoneacians(noneuropean) and who the world knows by the name of English and anglosaxonrace. From the 1st day of 2nd world war America secretly supplied arms and suppleis.british spitfire and other british arms were low quality useless junks-american plane along with Japenese Mitsubity and German planes were the real weopons of 2nd world war-but then british and anglosaxon media would like you to belive othewise. Reast we know. With 80 % of German's forces on winter Russian soil, even then germans were more superior in might and valour then the english who simply were conniving how to embroil others in the war rather than fight themseselves. Isrealies in last 50 years have won morw spectacular victories (without assistance of uno unlike som(in 48 war \isrealis Massesmitchs plane destroyed raf plane flowen by english(fighter) pilots who dared raid against Israel).But Isrealis do not celebrate so much (even 30 anniversary of taking of Western Wall in 67) with military band and show and do the english with their tarty shows of crap british war machine. But main point is why should american sources and effort be directed solely against others for the benefit of England(nor=t even scotland_in recent scotland limited freedom refredom bBc was vehemently opposed to giving any power other than a tocken on to install own bus survice or erect toilets). Afterall the population (legal) of united states constitutes more than 69 5 of those who did not come from Britain let alone england.In fact those who are noe-englang derived are the main people who made america graet otherwise america would have remained like canada-the largest country in the world with stole land of immense proportion ad thus benfiting from what comes out of stolen land-oil,timber,grain. Canada constituting mainly of(not french canda)those peoples who fled states after theirforfather's failed coup ateempt to take over united states(and thus relation of low brained confederacy's descendendents)are birish agents and also primary producers of the land(stolen). canada gross product constitutes very little of what man produces by brain or talent. The same way is of australia and newzealand. thes non-american anglosaxon countries arte thirld world-in fact their brain power is less than that of thirld world people. But then as west,as understood by English is realyy England and her descendents(anglosaxons) these backward countries-culturally and by crititarai iof per squre kilometer product . And this is exactly what united states was untill influx of immigratns from central and southern europe(who incidently came to america with mor money than the british. By the way canada is among the most 4th debted nation in the world but no body likes to expose and discuss it.It is the German scientists(till 1930 language of science was German and not english,it was after german speaking scientists came to america that grdually english(broken) became the language of high scince. IT is because of effort of these non-english immigrants that america acquired power of which she is so boastfull and which made her powerfull. As that intellectual property right of foreign country (rocket making,atomic bomb making ,china crockery,tea even gunpoweder from china) was stolen by both america and britain ,without paying royalty(how much british wedgewood or royal doulton or lipton tea has paid to china for having stolen china's product and reverse ingeneering?; it is why this so called called GAT pact must be scraped (as it produces rotten british beef in agriculture for once)and other countries should qcuire whatever arms they want want without giving a damn about anglosaxon world who incidently dropeed one and only one atomic bomb witout their security having been jeaporized(that is why they did it-if they know that they will also be annihilatted then there will a peace-borne out of fear.the only language anglosaxons understand.Anyway what these non-english immigrats got out of all these contribution? denigrating remarks, patronizing talk, and deliberete attempt to annihilate their identity-they call it mixed bowl. \even Einstein has not got a stream in the university town of pricton.\\they are called ethnic americans-Italian,greek,lithuvanian(Who incidently are the only aryan race speaker apart from latin in whole of European peoples and in america).Jewish ,Spanish etc.Implication being they are not really americans but only anglosaxons are ,. Even the Hispanic have been made villain as non americans. AS spanish were the first to discover america and stay)one third of america is stolen from spanish mexicans) and hispanic are sapanish and some are even halh spanish and half original americans(Called Indains),thoe hispanoic are the one who have got most right to stay in united states. But they are being labelled black as a sort of derogratory undesirable way. Blacks are the one who contributed most to what is any culture in america.129 years after slavery abolishion and 220 years ibndeop[endence, the blacks are not even third class citizen. It is this same america who .in order to harrass othr nation on one pretext or other ask third world country to improve human right situation,IN fact america nad engladn combined should be prosecuted in a war crime tribunal for crime commited against her citezens(non-england deriverd) and culprits 'property and all assents confiscated with capital punishments for many of tobacco barons and others pushers of alcohol,cigaterttes and what not.Main point is this england through her control of english propreitership, and through ufo-seeing morons(english gene plays a role here)have completellty cmanipulated most of not-brtish-derived that there is acoomon cause with those parasites first in name of black again white,having won that then they attack whit catholica, jews,spanish, germans and so on but not all at the same time-the game then will be revealed.Most of the english derived peoples are making money in jobs which does not require brain but are primary producers-of land(stolen from others)-timber.forestry,prairy agriculture,oilextraction etc. in other words anybody can do that if they also had that land.it is parastic living. Unfortunatelly these land produced goods are what makes most profit(unless it happens to other countries ; product then price will be manipulated to go down to lowest possible level).Because of that parasitic illgotten money-which remined in the hand of traitotrs to united states(because after civil war their land was not confiscatedas it should have been)these southern village idiots (bible belt dewelleres-eumpherically called middle america)got rich and had undue influence on american polcy(as anglosaxons are low bred phonecian derived shopkeepers race,it is not surprising that money is their god and exploitatin and hatred their motto, and cowardice is their prudence and spying their only means of fighting for a such a coward weaklings. But majority of americans are long that because they do not belong to anglosaxon race. IN fact they are more intelligent and capable than all the anglosaxon morons af the world put together. They must make a think tank to root this evil out.They demand that there is enough talent in america itselves to make hollywood film and stop the british actor getting any job-the jobs which would have gone to americans. They should give less value to media pumpep up british pop musician whose song look like coming from badly split bamboo.ANd it is through brtish control media and hollywood that a positive pictuter is sought to be given of english shopkeepers(saying that they somehowcome from cally background-in fact every inadin and asian and german who went america came from much superior background -economically, sociaally, breeding and educatio than these english lowlifes who end up in hollywood only because they can speak(they can not write correctly-word processor comes to heir aid)in a low accent-more like fishmonger and most like a corner shopowner. DO we want these low lifes from britain?THeir visa should be confiscated and they need to apply the for visa the same way as any other people do. and selection criteria should be as stringent as asfor those from other country. In other words they not only have to pass stingent professional exam but also prove without reasanble doubt that they will be of PH.d. material. as for visa casual servants works like au-pair must be stopped.there aa lot of better americans who can do do it without killing babies.
ALl the non-english derived(i.e. nonanglosaxon race)race has to come together on this agenda to remove this english race's cancerous infiltration in america and it will be done bacase that disease does not let you leave in peopce and happiness.It feeds on others misery. athis awareness can comltely remove this englnd parasite from american scene and only then will america be free atlas.
It is the same class of british loving american traitors who hunted down all free thinking director, producers, actors and artists from hollywood. They hunted the jews so much that though hollywood had been started by the jews ,the jews never dared put in hollywood films anything other than glorifying those southern and western bandits who were of english extraction. the hollywood became a propaganda and fictional plot to further english interest. The hunting of artistd had been going on before war but after hitler it intensified. And these same racists did to jews and other minorities in hollywood worse than hitler could do to german film industry. since then hollywood has become an easy employment place for all sorts of rubbish british star who would get the jobs to the detriment of real american subjects.british are not even gratefull to the americans for that.They would propaganda for british films which are equally bad. failing their attempt to pump up british films, they would infiltrate american filmsincluding even the alien films where their low accent has no relevance. Then the british propaganda against hollywood that it is rubbish(though when French will like more european fims then they would protest). Hollywood is rubbish not inspite of but because of the presence of british(english) actors and so called british artists. Also hollywood;s agenda is determined by the british agents for england's interest. That is why is the hollywood rubbish-because of english stars' presence.and americaqns must wrest away this control for themselves rather than leaving hollywood as means of propaganda and employment for english foreigners.

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November 1997.

Exploitation of U.S.A. by England and her Agents.

The recent case of an English servant( au pair) by name of miss woodward being convicted of man-slaughter of an American baby of American parents and yet allowed to walk away Scot free highlights those who did not realize earlier) the complete hold of England and her agents on the affairs of U.S.A. The same english media and her agents in America were doing free propaganda for the girl and even before and after the trial were declaring the convicted girl innocent. It is the same media (B.B.C. And others of same punk types) who have all through last 15 years been doing propaganda against Blacks, Hispanic and what not, and have fully pushed for tough measures against drug takings on the basis that with drug scare a lot of Blacks would be (and have been) put behind bar for more than 15 to 20 years on trumped up charge of possessing !5 dollars worth of Hassis. It is the same British (more specifically english) media and peoples who are pro-capital punishment (as long as victims are non-english) , pro hard line policing( only against non-english peoples), more pro tobacc0,more pro rotten british beef, more pro big british business( but anti-foreigners` business-whiplash against Japanese ownership of a few American concerns but complete silence of American firm being hostile way being taken by british and Canadian firms is one example), more pro pollution, more anti-environment, very pro-english financial institutions` hold on world economy (but against European finance getting strong--anti-European Single currency is for that reason), very anti-cultured( they call it pragmatism) and very anti-foreign countries (usa, Canada, and Australia excepted as these are regarded by English press as their colony( they call it across the pond, or english backwater))), very anti-blacks, anti-whites of Europe, anti non anglo saxon whites of America and even anti-Scottish
British media--racist-- (BBC was giving vehement
propaganda against Scottish devolution). BBC even suggested that Wales referendum peoples who lost referendum (i.e. english sympathisers in Wales) should revolt against Wales referendum result). These all characteristics you find daily in and out in programmes of BBC, independent channels, satellite english channel, all enlish papers. there is no difference between tabloids and broadsheets in England ,they all are owned, produced, edited, written and read and edited by low life forms). In fact what they try to project to others especially Americans is exactly opposite of what they actually. They deride other cultural things (like French) but would try to impress Americans as torch bearer of culture. In fact in name of pragmatism ( really meaning slimy, low life) they deride all cultural things. They are hardly musical but would make the most of commercial success out of music. In fact when German style techno music started getting popular, because it would eat away british music industry's carefully orchestrated profit and also because money would probably go to foreign bands, the BBC and all english media started orchestrated propaganda aginst that music scene falsely climing that it was full of antisocial elements consuming drugs and doing crimes. That is how the techno music scene was killed in Britain. That propaganda was worse than Soviet propaganda against pop music. That is how one never hears of excellent pop girl group Tic-Tac while
British media-propaganda machine of english race-- BBC and all british media have done full steam propaganda to popularize the names of rubbish pop group like Oesasis and spice girls. In fact the English race is only good in propaganda and the sale which results from it. But they would like americans to believe that they are original thinkers and others steal their ideas to sell¬ The english are sellers, and commercial but because they know it is not a classy qualification, they started talking of class when in reality there has never been true aristocracy in England. they all are pirate cum shopkeepers. Make no mistake about it. It is the british agents in U.S.A. who (through complete hold of media, Hollywood and money) who have been active in spreading racial hatred against blacks, Hispanic, Irish, Italians, Germans, Greeks Russian, Polish Jews -in other words against all those Americans who are labelled ethnic Americans and who constitute more than 70 % of Americans outside anglo-saxon race. The same english which said on one voice to free the murderer girl is the same who goes which daily talks of desirability of tough law and order measures in U.S.A. It the same english media which does propaganda on behalf of biggest drug dealer in the world-B.A.T. And it is the same English sympathisers in States and English Govt. which brought about civil war in America to protect drug (tobacco) interests in U.S. It is the same B.B.C. which opposed in 1988 the sanctions against apartheid South Africa saying it will hurt British jobs. IT openly violated U.N.O. resolutions against South Africa for british interests. Such british interests must be destroyed as it is based on inhuman practices. In fact in the 1988 American election B.B.C. had invited the chief drug dealer of bat (who of course is an englishman) and there was another American there. During discussion of Ducassis' candidature the B.B.C. anchor man suggested to the American that the opponent of bush was hardly an American as he looked to dark and was Greek, the country of geek being too much near Africa. It really happened. This shows a few things. According to B.B.C. not only Blacks were not American but also all those who the english agents have labelled ethnic Americans. In fact B.B.C. openly said (in that program-usually B.B.C. does not reveal its evil intention so easily) that the American means actually anglo-saxons. Don't confuse that it includes Germans either. The same English agents (in America) who created a monstrous film like ``birth of nation`` are the same people who crated prohibition only because many German immigrants were drinking bear and they did not like it. It is the same england sympathiser crowd who went on killing blacks, Irish,
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British propaganda against Europeans races-- The same crowd who pushed U.S.A. Into both World Wars because otherwise England would have lost. It is the same crowd who asked for tough immigration measures against foreigners but have given free reign to English people to come to u.s.a. and work theatre without visa requirement. Those restricted against (from other foreign countries) are not only much more highly qualified specialists in their field but also they have much better standard of living than the English people woh come to States. Those foreigners are mostly from elite school and are educated up to Ph.D. level while these english people are all non- Ph.d. and almost all school failed. Very few of these english people are university educated. In fact England is a nation of plumbers and fitters. It is a progression from piracy and shop keeping. It shows in their accent that almost all of english immigrants to states are from plumber and fitter class. But they pose otherwise. they have created an accent only to show to Americans that they can sometimes Talk posh but it is a put on. actually they become posh only after they have milked America and taken jobs which would otherwise have gone to Americans. Besides their so called posh themselves have graduated from Pirates-turned _so called gentleman class. The upper class of England always have been pirate cum shopkeeper class. England never had aristocracy in the same the word aristocrat means. Aristocracy is in Italy, in Spain, In Germany, in France and other European nations. But the one country -england which never had true aristocracy talks a lot about that to impress Americans. Example-in all European countries There is a word to describe a lower member( let us say a starting point) of aristocracy-A Man who is mounted on a horse. Chevalier in French and Caballero in Spanish means exactly that. A man on horse. So is it in all European languages. but not in english. The equivalent word knight is not derived from horse
.It has been artificially given the same meaning. The reason is simple. In England there has never been a class of blood's (though they talk most of all people about it). Anybody could be and can be given entrance to their so called aristocracy. Mostly Pirates turned shopkeepers have been favourites to receive knighthood. It is not true of only pirate queen Elizabeth1 but is has been much before that bandit queen and it is true even today. The point is important. Because by giving false propaganda that they somehow have class they have gained entrance into Hollywood and shaped much of today's American thinking. In fact enlish people declare themselves classy in england usually they have earned a lot a money in Hollywood. It is america which improves their class and not vice-versa as they would like Americans to believe. There is another word (or lack of it)
which shoes that English race never had class. In all European languages there is an equivalent word for` `Bonn Appetite``. Not in english. Because even after last 200 hundred years of ill-gotten money the English race never developed class to appreciate good food. In the same way english language( u.k.) has a lot of word for sensational and secretive kind but very few words to describe finer things in Life like Philosophy, arts, etc. The point being made is that English people must be prohibited from coming to States to get employment in lucrative jobs when their are more better qualified people in States and elsewhere. Because England is not only controlling American foreign policy but also it's domestic and economic policy.
british infiltration into American Film industry-- How this state of affairs have come about? Why is a Hollywood film industry become an employment avenue for English parasites? Why for example even in a sci-fiction film is it necessary to employ 3 to 4 Enlish voice over? The provisos point about english race being one and only one in Europe without real blooded aristocracy was given for this very reason. Even TONY Curtis once said as to why is a high Roman supposed to speak in enlish accent and can not in american accent. These english parasites insinuated themselves in Hollywood and started this propaganda( first in background and later openly) that Romans, old Christians etc all need english accent. They did to evict the american from important positions and secondly to get the job themselves. Ho w this came about ? Because it has been so entrenched (thanks to english propaganda) that to unravel it we can see a few recent examples and than we will go to Past.
other industry---- The same thing that the english race did in Hollywood ,it did recently in computer industry 2 years ago. When Cd-rom age came about 2 years ,there came about reasonably priced Encyclopaedias, lessons in Sciences like Physics, chemistry, geography and mathematics. Of course most of them were american. Initially the british did bring out high priced low quality( like most of british products) computer educational programmes. And the british media in unison urged the public to buy british products. First they said that british product though costly was better product. When that did not hold then the british media were saying that though american product was as good or even better ,who would buy american product because it did not give british bias rather american bias to things. They were saying that even about Physics and geography programmes. Later on they based that it had cute american accent and not stern british accents. they openly said that real english even in america should be what is spoken by anglo-saxon race in their homeland-that is england. In fact the british media were insistent that in britain one should buy american programmes only because it had american accent (irritating was the word used) and not till it was localized. Suddenly in a computer ,a global market where a particular accent in science matters nothing a new buzz word came into being-localization. The english media and their agents in america were active and pressurised the american company like Microsoft and etc to not only produce for u.k. market in england auto also for whole of non-U.S. market also to be produced in u.k. And they cakl;l ed u.k.edition world edition. Considering that in world only in last 50 years have people mostly learned english because of u.s.a. influence and they imitate u.s.a. accent ; it was a misnomer. But the real intention was to take job away from Americans and give the translation, and low tech but highly paid job to English race. In other words they grabbe american jobs. By the way if it was irritating and objectionable for an englishman to read and listen in american accent and bias then why is it o.k. for the rest of world to read and listen in shopkeeper's accent? This thing happened in last 2 years so you can understand the process how the english shopkeepers and plubers have taken away american` job in Hollywood and many others jobs. Many go there to be servants and pose as butler and au pair. Can¬t americans not do it? In fact of all the different groups that has made america the immigrants from England have been not only the least educated and least cultured but also the most poor. In fact even Russian jews who came to america in beginning of this century came with more money than the immigrants from england. It is only by such propaganda that they insinuated themselves in high position and got rich. Aglo-saxon race is the Lumpen proletariat of america. Only by default of others has it become rich but could never got class. Let us see how the english race managed to exploit and are exploiting u.s.a.
Total lack of class and culture amongst the english race Let us be frank. though in some places england would like to compare her selves descendent of Romans and Greeks it is more a descendent of Phoenicians. The latter were also pirates cum traders and had equally low culture, trade and money with exploitation being their only passion. Till end of Napoleonic war England has been pariah of Europe. It was always a nation of ugly looking people looking for and trouble among the great powers of( england was never that ) Europe and pirating and doing all criminal activities . In fact Richard ,before going for crusade, killed all the Jews in York and elsewhere so that he and his inklings would not have to pay to those bankers which was owed. This despicable creature has a monument in front of british parliament. He was a coward plunderer who spread the seed of anti Semitism in europe when he passed though Europe. Before that there was never a racism in Europe. But racism was a ploy to not to pay debts. Probably the Third world should learn from that and do to these despicable creatures wat tehy they showed the way. In During Turkish expansion ,while Christians of Europe especially as
Spanish and Austrian were trying to protect Europe, this Pariah of Europe, Elizabethen England were trying to encourage the Turkish empire. Of course it did have no effect because english were not important. Even fact England was one of the most poor country in europe till very late time. It is only because the prime minister of Lous 15 said that France was not interested in expansion than what is her today's` boundary, that England could get opportunity But even then it was not in guts anor power of england to expand. Only when the great powers were to fight then england have a chance just like when 2 lions fight it out and get injured then comes a hyena and takes the kill what was lions` originally. England is the Heyena of Europe. Her policy has been through spy network to let real powers fight it out so that it can enjoy the kill. Therefore first it pirated against Spain ,and 50 years later against Holland (who it had tried to help against Spain). Many of Dutch east India company ships were looted in English channel. At the same time it incited France against Spain and after Spain had been neutralized It incited Spain against France. The similar pattern would be repeated it it got empire by default and it would continue even after empire was practically gone after 1st world war and certainly after w.w.2. So we find england a pariah dog at the time of Nepoleanic War .IT tried six times to assassinate Napoleon. Such a great man likes of who gets born once or twice in a thousand years. England's propaganda against Napoleon was the same as it would be against Germany in 1st World war, against Hitler against Gandhi against Lenin and Stalin. Napoleon freed the jews from ghetto which they got through racism introduced by the English by pirate Richard. Instutianlized racism is very english thing which basically means hatred for all things not belonging to english. Here also comes the role of Jews. Though Napoleon had freed the jews, for some inexplicable reasons since then Jews put their fate in the hands of English and (suffered from it) What Hitler described as the characteristics of Jew is really very English attributes. In other word being cheot, cheap spying is the very english quality and nothing to do with jews. It so happens that Jews started working for english cause and used those inhuman qualities characteristic of english race. Anyway after several attempts on Nepoleans`life (they were fist terrorists) ,napoleon had to declare him selves Emperor to protect continuity of Republic and revolution. (sounds odd but this exactly how it happened). England had to concede 91801) to give up all ill gotten territories . So after napoleon becoming emperor, england got a chance for propaganda. While Napoleon was meeting the Russian Czar on a Royal barge, hidden underneath the barge was an Enlish spy who overheard everything. Rest is history. Through enlish lies and propaganda and spy work confusion was created which created mistrust between Russia and France and Napoleon attacked Russia and lost 80 % of Grand Armee.THen ofcourse the prussians and Austrians would attack and Nepolean would lose. The cedit of military victory the english take-heyena taking over from Lion.The similar pattern would be repeated 100 years in 1st world war and also in 2nd w.w. and beyond continuing now. In fact england hardly got anything by military fighting. England has not won a single war own her own.Even boer war at a time of empire resource. IT is always by cowardly act of crating trouble between two stongest powres and making them fight till bloodied.40 yers after Nepoleanic war, when in France was installed highly unpopular monach- a stooge of England- the same earstwhile enemies became friend to attack previous friend Russia in Krimea war. Whosoever is England`s friend is called ally and every genetion it changes.After anepoleonic war,in order to make a comrade in loot, England would persuade stooge king of France that it was not bad after all to exploit other countries and ask France to take desert lands of north Africa. One needs accomplices in crime for safety. This pattern of involving a strong country in war till destruction would be followed in W.W.1. against. Basically Germany had grown too strong for England`s liking so it had to be involved in war with some other power. (never england -it will come later when going gets easy). So English spies started giving hint to Germans that if Germany attacked Czar`s Russia , it would be o.k. with England. Remember by 1885, Germany had industrial output higher than england` in spite of all captive market of England where it could sell high priced low quality rubbish goods (it still does the same today with stooge govts. of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait).So Germany was given wrong signal and encouraged to attack Russia while england stated to make pact with Russia as well- That very Russia against it was inducing Germany to attack. To justify back stabbing england had this small clause of sovereignty of Belgium .Of course if it was simply a matter of sovereignty only , Belgium could simply give transit passage to German army and matter ends there. But that was an excuse to declare war against Germany who had been induced to attack Russia by england anyway. IT tells a lot about German army that inspire of 80 % army being at Russian front, The Enlish were loosing by 1917 andthat inspire of all empire soldiers (million) , all the help of Americans and all spying work. Of course as was said earlier these cowards have won a single battle, let alone a war in last 100 year on their own strength. And they have won not a single war ar battle by fighting ever, only through cowardly cheating and double crossing. It is interesting that The same racists who were just like Hitler were in America and they were most vociferous in fighting racist Germany of Hitler. Ofcousre they were not fighting for an ideal, they were fighting for Egland. In America 150 year after independence!

Democracy-a propaganda word-How world wars was started by England----
In fact this talk of democracy and freedom and secularism started soon after start of ww1 when England started losing the war. It begged other nations to help her in name of democracy and freedom. Think of it_ England which had enslaved so much of world population and killed and exploited them( they are still proud of it) asking in name of freedom! In fact what england means by secularism is worship of her kings and kings, by democracy is meant dictatorship of English shopkeepers and by freedom is meant freedom to exploit other nations and people. The same freedom for other nations is not to be granted. the same worship of other Royal peoples is not to be encouraged. Only for English royals or those who have been made stooge royals like those of Saudi-Arabia or Kuwait. Kaiser is to be a villain because He wanted exactly the same things for German peoples as the English wanted for themselves. After all hitler was evil but what crime did Kaiser did? Soon before w.w.1 the Japenes had attacked and defeated Russia in naval battle. That was arranged and financed in London with help of German jews who had settled in America. But after ww1,in the leage of nations and in american immigration policies, the earstwhile friend-Japenese were not given respectable position on the prompting of Britain . That was the start of anti-japenese propaganda by the british who in ww2 asked americans to block all rawmaterial supply for Japan. In other words ,much before American entry into ww2, U.S. had already done an act of war against Japan in order to help England maintain her ill-gotten colony. In between wars, the english sympathisers had alredy been diong what hitler was to do in germany against Jews. But those very american racist very the first to jump for action against Germany at outbreak of war. Ofcourse from the first days of ww2,America had been giving all arms and help to britain .It was fighting war without declaration. There are unexplained phenomenons of ww2-of which no satisfactory explation has yet been given because all explations and propaganda has been by british-directed and ofcourse british have to be given all possible benefit of doubt. These phenomenon are (a) Why Was Hitler surprised at british declaration of WW2? (b) Why did hitler not attack England(if he was supposed to do) and let england have more preparation for more than 1 years? (c) Even later when Hitler acted on western front, why did he allow Dunkirk? Why did he not finish the English army as he could have done? Why did he halt attack for 3 days to let the English cowards flee through Dunkirk? (d) Why was there such a little attack in westwn front? Why was there virtually no war in europe or against England? For almost 3 years there was hardly any war in so called western Europe. Why did the war started only when England had enough time to muster resorces and when 80 % of German army was on Eastern front?(e) Why did the second in command of hitler-Hess landed in Scotland and immediately arrested?That was nearly the same time that America openly enterd the war. Such a high position man like Hess do not fly to enemy country in time of war as a Spy. Germany could muster many other spy than sending the second in command of Fuhrer.What Hess had to say in prison was never allowed outside but after his death his son revealed Britsh involment in pact with Hitler was hushed up by british and american media. In fact there are many other incidants which directly point to England mastermanding the 2WW. It does not mean that england was to fight.It is too coward fotr that. Just like before in 1ww, It orchestrated the war to let Germany and Russia destroy each other. Stalin recognized this immeditely and made a pact with germany to buy time.How did England started the 2 ww? It happened like this.Thogh admirer of Hitler and his descpicable views, England got worried of German might.(England always has inferiority complex versus Germans).England made a secret pact with Germany that it was all right for Germany to attack East And later Russia.England will in public make a fews sound-bites but inside it will fully support Hitler and his nasty aims.England may offer token resistance for public consumption. Hitler belived it. He should have known better. In fact what Hitler described in ¬¬Mein Kampf¬ about Jews is not jewish characterstics ,it is rather typical English characterstics_sly, Manipulative, selfish parasite on world, spy and ugly.(most of english and enlish race derived people look like mishapen potatoes(Churchill) or toad or dog(Which is also their national symbol. Anyway, Hitler was duped and when he went to Checkoslavakia, England had an excuse(as if it cared) to decare war.The 2ww. is taditionalyy supposed to start from that date thogh war had already started in `38. Hitler was very surprised(as vouched for by his aids).Normally he should not have been surprised if his intention was to destroy england as was alleged. He was surprised because contrary to british secrety assurance, Englad declared and went to war4 against Germany. But England ,though preparing for war, senrt a message to Hitler that it was all for public consumption and hitler can go ahead against Russia. That is why England was celebrating picnic in the summer of 40. Later when hitler realized that some stern action was necessary against traitor(England-who had done secret pact) ,Hitler orderded His army to throw out ffrom Europe the English army(supposedly the elite among the english army) But then even supposedly elite among the English army turned out to be coward. When The English army was at the point of annihilation, England sent urgent messages to Hitler, pleading for reprieve. Ofcorse Hitler neede ally and his intentin was simply to show to the English not to mess with German army and with secret pact. That is how these cowards flew through Dunkirk and later on made it as if were an heroic act.Laer on when Hitler had success against Russia (he had no need to-If Germany wanted she could have destroyed England and occupied it without English being able to do anything about it except plotting). But as Russia was the main target and as England entering war was (to hitlers` eyes simply for public consumption) immaterial(thogh England had it all pre-planned and is a classical case of back stabbing and bouble dealing charecterstic of English race).

How world war 2 was started by britain-- If Hitler had wanted to act against England he would have attacked England insted of Russia at a time when the Japenese were defeating the English and giving the dose of same medicine to English race which it so much wants for others.Well, when England saw that Hitler and Germany are too much than it could chew, England offered to Germany another pact just before americans were induced to come to war openly. When americans,who had been in the war form day one(IF americans did not fight from start of 2ww. then neither did the cowards English)openly came to war, England again changed her mind and arrested Hess who had come to Britain at british govt request to finalize German-enlish pact in which Hitler was to take over Russia and leave britain have her empire. Hitler was again duped.So, as you see ,forget about Hitler being duped evil man(which he was), the England was very much of same view andactivelyy collaborated with Germany in order to destroy Germany.In fact, when Jews in america were canvassing about start of concentration camps and danger to Jewish life in Europe, It was England and her govt, and media whio hoo poohed the whole thing and activelyy advised america not to do anything about it-even in public forum. America was(and still is) to fight for no group except the English and english-derived race.
Aryan and racist myth- an english invention-- In fact this mad thinking that Germans are Aryans and so superior is not even German thinking. Remember even today the most hate publications in the world are produced by those so called middle america(so beloved of BBC) who wrongly called themselves aryans and hate ,besides others, the real Aryans in america who are Immigrants from Indian subcontinent.(And these real arysan from India are much highly educated and cultured than these pluber cum shopkeepers lot of ugly looking baptist amerca going by the name(euphemecally) middle america (who usually get visitations from u.f.o.). When the German scientists (and some french)in employment of The Czarina Catherine the great were collecting (for St.Petersburg library)language (among other things) information in flar-flung Russian empire, they stumbled across som Tchokhari language near Dushanbe. Tehy found that some of the language resemled German.Later on they were told by French that similar language was the main language spoken in India-Sankrit and all sanskrit derived languages of whole Idia except in South India. Even in South india, the Brahamans spoke Sanskrit.That is how Germans came to know about aryan language. In fact the sopkeeper race ,english who already had been trader in india for 125 years, had no inkling about this similarity. Germans studied the Ved, Upnishad and what not and were very impressed by Indians ahievement.The English said that sankrit was a new artificial invention created by Indians after Europeans came to India. This is how these low peoples` mind works. Anyway undeterred, the Germans studied Sanskrit very well and wrote a lot about it. Then belatedly some English people started studying it to find not knowledge but common Hindu laws and also to find fault with Hindu religion and scriptures. So there was a fundamental difference between Germans (even Italian Jesuit priest and a Frenchman in 16 the century had studied) and the English. Germans studied because it was and is a beautiful language with literature no other in the world, while the english (who after Napoleonic war got real power in her history through default) studied to prove that Sanskrit was a fraud creation. Then even all evidence showed contrary to english view, the english first said that Veda was written soon after Alexander invasion. then the date Veda was pushed back to 55 BC. then 1000BC then (only after Al-Amarna tablet and Bogzhoiki tablet) was it pushed to 1500 years and then 1800 years. In other word ,malicious intention of English race has been to first deny. then malign and make Aryan literature not so old and it really is. This is from a shopkeepers race like English who never had real aristocracy but always talk of heritage and tradition. A tradition of pirate cum shopkeeper turned land grabber and then so called gentlemen with no culture and taste and talking of low life as pragmatism. In fact the Germans said that the Hindus were the Aryan race and Germans were somehow related to them in language. Germans used Indo-Germans while rightly restricting the Aryan word to Hindus. (In all Hindu scriptures there is no word -Hindu; it is always ARYa to denote Hindu race and literature. ). Of course the English jumped into this naming process and said `me too`. That is how Indo-European word came ito being.
Basic thing is that when before Alexander the Greek language was considered un barbaric by Indian grammarians (who knew everything about origin-roots of language). Even the Greeks called the old Persian -barbaric (in way of foreign) language. And that old Persians was akin to Sanskrit. IN Persipolis (which Herodotus did not know because as non-Aryan Greek would not be invited in Emperor Darayaush`or his descendents` ceromony )there still is a relief of how Medians (foremost among the Persian Aryans) looked like. WE know how Darayaush the Great and his descendents looked like. There is also coin of other Iranians and Indians in Gandhar region (which has always been populated by Indian descendents). Compare to the =median's coin( found archeologically) medians, coin profiles with Parsees (who fled Iran in 600 AD.) and with Many Sikhs, Bahamans, And a lot of North Indians-And you know what Aryans looked like. Indira gandhi, Jubeen Mehta , and such are the typical Aryan faces. In profile, Aryans a have what In Sanskrit literature is called Eagle or Parrot like bent nose. Sides of the nostrils are arched and Eyes have a particular sharp angle with nasal bridge. Aryans are usually very hairy as well especially in Facial department. Besides when the Babylonian scribe about Kassitesis invasions (who it has been proved were Indians-full stop) they wrote about coming from East. Just by saying that it was Afganistan does not disprove anything-ofcorse indians (Kassites) had to cross Afganistan to come to Babylonia; besides Afganistan till 600 A.D. had always been in Indian sphere of influence -population wise, culture wise. In fact Aryans homeland was what is todays UP.and Northern Bihar regions of northern India
up to Narmada valley (Hahehya) in central India from whence they spread gradualyy to Punjab and then Afghanistan and then Iran. Even Medians called themselves coming from East and the real name of Persians was Persu-A Sanskrit word. Aryans regarded East as sacred and would never have said the region west and north of Afganistan as derogatory sense if that had been their homeland. In Rig-Veda the 10 kings battle happened ain Punjab but historical background is given not in Rigved( which is a sacres religion book) but in Brahamans (which explains Veda) .Those 10 kings had been fighting for more than 5 generations and it was a battle of kings from Varanasi and Pratishthan (from Narmada). Therefore before that Rig Veda was formed ,The Aryans had already been kings of Central-northern (Madhya Desh). Besides Aryans were not that great in material achivements as compared to their chief enemies (when they attacked Babylon) Asur. What characterised Aryans was their Horse-chariot use. no martial heritage, human warfare, and human attitudes to other peoples. What they hated most was shopkeeper like attitude and people like Panis(Phoenicians0. The enlish race is direct descendant of those hateful Phoenicians-Pirate turned shopkeeoper. In fact the Phoenicians had a colony in what is know northern Holland. The English race in form of anglo-saxons came from that very water logged poor region of Holland. The Greeks knew of Celtics and hardly about Germans. Celtics came from same branch as the Latin's. the Romans were told by the Barbarians( Germans here) hat tribes they constituted of. In none of that is mention given of Angles and Jutes-the two class which made English race. as if even the barbarians were ashamed of these jutes and angles. But Lombardy, Franks were the main tribes. Because Goths were living near Black sea( Till Huns overran them) these Goths came in contact with some of the remnants of Aryan tribes and also probably some of Emperor Ahoke`s Buddhist missionary who were spreading Buddhist religion there (Buddha called his views simply as arya religion). With that was early Christianity mixed and some early Goths adopted Aryan Christianity. That is the only and earliest relation of a German tribe with word denoting ara. As some one said, from German language it appears that German language is an indo-european language adopted by non-Indo-European race. WELL THE ENGLISH RACE HAS RELATIONSHIP WITH NOT GERMAN RACE BUT WITH Holland. THOGH IT NEVER TALKS ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WANTS TO ASSOCIATE ITSELF WITH MORE SUCCESFUL RACES. The only aryan-derived race in europe are Lithuanians. Irish also have got Aryan name in their country .in fact Irish, French and Latin's all came from( evidenced by their earlier chronocles) from that what of Today's Turkey where Indian in fork=m of Mittanis and kassites and hittes had established empire. In fact ,due to mountainous region many of the Kurds (descendents of uratu) have been able to maintain their Aryans face and features. One thing more. Many of the Rishis who composed holy of the holiest books of aryans-Ved were themselves labelled as dark-complexioned. and many of the Aryans kings-including ones in 10 kings battle in ved have got Das surname (Name of non-aryan slaves by western propagandists.). in fact if you look at world situation for last 500 years ,all these Aryan races have been enslaved by low grade
non-Aryan peoples. One thing more-there is no history of animosity between aryans and jews. The great Aryan king Kurush freed jews from Babylonian captivity. Jews have been well treated in only true aryan country-India.What the aryans hated was Panis(phoenicians whose direct descendents (both mentally and racially)are the English race. In fact english are not an european race. They appropriate others` ofcourse but they are not. In Britannica encyclopaedia they write that Roman empire was nothing to do with Italy and Italians-it was world empire. Would they say british empire has nothing to do with English and britain?.They do not get tired of their 150 years empire but would not give the same credit to Italy. In many Roman ruins in Britain, they would mention in writing that the Romaans soldiers were nothing to do with Italians. next to this writing is a few pictures of Romans mwn and women who certainly look like todays Italians and certanly nothing like English anyway. Why do these bastards minimize others achievement. Because it gives them false sense of history and besides that is how they land up hollywood role of Romans in americans film (And taking jobs from americans).Anyway, in 1900, one Griergson,suryor -
general in India and a sanskrit scholer wrote very revealing thing ehich has not been given as much importance. He said `` todays(19oo) many englishmen have suddenly started calling themselves as Aryan and nothing can be further from fact. only Indians are Aryans.``
German Sanskritolost said that even the blackest Indian is more aryan than the fairest Scandinavian. Incidently most of the Germans are not blondes rather red-haired just like supposedly Irish.Point about griergsons` is that these Phoenicians-derived English race had agressvely calling itself aryan and using it as a kind of racial superiority while exploiting the real Aryans in India. This happened much before Hitler and that explains despicable sopkeeper cum plumber` white superiority jibes in England and america both before and(more) after 2WW. In nutshell, these inferior people through media manipulation, spying and cheating crated 2ww. and caused so much misery with minimal loss of their life and interests. Thaose would belive such people usually get similar fate as later on it happened to Russia.

While WW2. was still going on,in @43 tthe English started their spy work and propaganda against Russia(with whom they had made common cause against hitler).The same way after cold war the same anti-communist propagandists of England would direct their propaganda against Capitalist Germany and European unity.
How english race has used the jews for her own benefit-- ---- It is very interesting that the same type of english people(who are anti-communists, anti-blacks, anti-muslims, anti-catolics) started the same sort of propaganda(like used against russians and communists) against The Germans.the Frenchs and Europeans in general. First England did not want germany united(though during cold war it suggested that only Russians are against it). soon after German reunification and even before disintegration of Soviet union ,England changed the lie-tactics(through media and government) against Europe. There is one more thing. nato was supposed to counter warsaw pact, with the latter gone there was no discussion as to nato should be wound uop or not. Europe does not need nato. Europe can have and should have her own defence system as is the Germo-Franco_Italian_Spanish collaboration. that European defence pact must be stengthened rather than germany supporting nato. Actually england needs nato to prop up its nasty influence in military matters. With the help of usa and nato has england been able to prop up her influence. In fact england is ant-Europe and through nato it wants to keep a tab on european affairs and not let Europe get strong on her own. As england can not do this own her own it has let America involved in it(during empire days england hardly shared power with America but it needs America now). Germany or Europe does not need nato. In fact nato is the greatest enemy(through england)of germany and europe. How can england be so much anti-Germany,working dso much against German interests and be a major parterner in common defence pact?It is a ludicrous situation. England manipulates financial market(in last8 years through recession and what not london market has risen 3 fold while far Eastern markets-who are the main producers of consumer goods-has fallen drastically.). That is why it pumped up the value of pound before joing european sustem-ofcourse it was unsustainable but for devaluation of pounds the Germans and some jews(as said by bbc) were blamed. As england does not want German or any other European country to get economically strong and be financially independent of london market, it opposed Single currency vehemently.Even a so called left-paper like Guardian was suggesting that if Shroeder(of german spd party) were the chancellor than he would give more say(than others in europe) to England-so it would have been good. In other word they want special treatment for themselves. Why? When they talk of sovereignity is england not the main country pushing, threatning and cajoling the thirld world to accept World bank and IMF(created by america for englands interest) so called structral reform regardless of people's wishes. If other countries's destiny can be controlled by bureacrats in IMF. then why not England's by European's bureacrats? England is the most bureactic and centralised country in europe with all the regional making machinery smashed by the government with the help of bbc and all other propaganda machinery. And that England talks of local development and burocracy of European commission.Single european currency is a must for Europe not only for european economic advantage and stability but also because it will smash england's power of financial market manipulation.
what should europe do now-in '97 In Fact the rest of Europe should actively discourage england to join Euro, because then [email protected] financial power will be smashed and it will be good news for Europe and the rest of the world. Not only England want to eat rotten, viral infected meat but also wants to force feed the the rotten thing to the Europeans. When germany resists this nasty move on part of england to take rotten meat ,then germany-already a villain in their eyes -becomes a super villain. As soon as the news leaked out of viral infevted meats, the first reaction of bbc was not as to why it happened but ''Can Europe ban the xport legally?-has it got the right?''. there was never a hue and cry about cruel treatment of cows who were forced fed on infected animal meats(cows are vegetarian). This sort of so called commercial farming is the thing which has been pushed down the through of rest of world through GAT. which was made to suit anglo00saxons' interest.France was right to oppose gat in this form. If the similar thing happened in any other country in the world then this the same british media including bbc would hape said a cruel, primitive practice for rotten meat with no regard for peoples health or [email protected] welfare. In fact for showing so much cruelty to animals in this case it is not the animals which should be killed but the peoples(british farmers and their media propagandists). There was and is always a support for such disgusting affairs by the british peoples and it shows what sort of people they are. we will british meat even if it is rotten. in fact there was hardly a influx of foreign meats followinf disclosure. This phenomenan of using rotten british product is not confined to beaf-it extends to everything . in fact protectionism at home and forced infiltration abroad is the name of game in england. And this is the country talking about liberalization. That is why british products,thogh rotten in quality are high in price. All this because of underlying protectionism. That is also why you will not only not get fresh ,healthy products but also you do not find variety in british life. In the name of traditional(to prect the internal market) britain sells to own people and a few foreign stooges, the same rotten cheese, the same low quality high priced car and same rotten but high price arms(Saudis and others are fed with it). Actually this clone like cancerous feature is very much english way of life. the english live in ame only 4 or 5 varieties of house, their furniture is the same 4 to five varietis their cothes are they same rotten unsmart types and their food is the sme rotten type with rotten ingediants. Then why do the englisjh live? for extacting money for money sake. this ia feature of parasitic and cancerous race. the same thing they have exported to where they went. that is why all anglo saxons countries show lack of variety.and it is the engl;ish who accused Russians of imposing their culture destroying variety in soviet union. As to talk of this supporting own rotten meat and drug industry(tobacco) for the sake of jobs, why can not the thirld world support her own industry for their jobs and prosperity. atlest thirld world still produces better quality food and clothes and even car than the general british joe is used to. When agitation was going on in South Africa in '86 against apartheid, the bbc reprted in support of apartheid that otherwise in case of sanctions against s.africa it would be british profits and jobs which would be lost.Such peoples who benefit by others misery should be made jobless. In fact capitalism and so called freedom for them means freedom to exploit other nations and give them misery. For themselves english never practice free market-it is for foreign suckers. England is a protected and market for themselves and their rotten products. For example, Honda(which rescued b.l.) and rovers are the same cars but rovers cost more because it is british car and because they sometimes put a thin veneer of wood in it. Bearing in mind the british homes have hardly got a furniture of solid good wood, the english are selling their cars not on engineering but on carpentry and tatty presentation. And as these shopkeepers never have class, they make a lot of noise about class too. in fact what british media says and what truth is 180 degreee apart.For foregn goods(car, consumer items etc) the english would be very fussy and wanrt to get at least price abut for british goods they would create all lies and excuses to pump up the price and sell. That ids why the advanced countries in Europe and far east are in recession and britain and other anglo-saxon countries (which except america is only primary producers of land-oil.timbers. etc-land stolen from others in last 250 years)are in boom. It is not even alive and let live. english like to wreck others ' prospect of prosperity or happiness. For example.england knew that it had no outside chance of staging soccer world cup.but it put forward proposal nevertheless at last minute at a time when Germany was well favourite for that. Why?-to wreck chances for GERmany to stage one.So Germany lost not only that glory but also a lot of money to immense satisfaction of english press and people. unemployment in Germany could have eased up if it had got the ofeerr to stage world cup, but no. And it is this Germany who agreed to british request to delay monetary union for 2 years (When britain is not going to be part of it even) . Had that monetary union come about earlier, German chancellor would not have been facing this problem as nhe is now. But then england has always survived on folly of these suckers who do not know who thier real friend or enemy are.nato which ia realyy an agent for english interest(and broadly anglosaxon interest) should have been rejected by Germany and also euro-fighter in place of truelly european (excluding britain ofcourse)military alliance. but Germany lost that chance and new cold war(egland has always done cold wars,it is too coward to enter in direct confontration without firsat weakening enemy with lies and propaganda machinery likebbc and others)has begun. For those who do not belive this let me give an example. Soon after fall of Berlin war, the editor of Sunday times(who is reknowned racist, anti communist and anti poor,pro capitalist and later came out to be anti Germans and antiFrench aswell) said on bbc that to protect nato and english interests ineurope ,may be americans should get out of germany and than british garrison can stay there because americans would be resented as occupying foreign forces while britain can simply say that they are european aswell and so stay. This from a man who is European hater and is one of leading propagandists against Germany (as he was against russia).So there you are-cat is out. The english are a foreign intusive element in europe through nato. In fact england should not have been allowed in european community ,barring this england must not be allowed to join european single currency if one wants to insure stability and cohesive stength of Euro.It is very interesting that the same editor of sundays times who rave about like a mad dog against germans ,French, Europe in general and ofcourse against blacks and socialists was also a sort of adviser to lady diana. That lady [email protected] most of the friends during her fame have been what can be described, for lack of better word, a representative of greedy '80s is significant. Diana was a representative of that greedy shomful period called 80s and her main freinds were the same exploters which made 80s'climate of greed and shelfishness possible. Diana was minly liked by lower class shopkeepers and plumbers class -in other word whose forefatehrs were lumpen proletariat only a generation or two. She was neither aristocratic in taste nor her freinds were. but the same diana -a darling of greedy exploters with no class_ is being pumpep up by british people as some angel. This is all to give themselves importance. While bbc and british media always ignore others countries'important and good news, the other countries should also ignore british media and operate the same volantary blanket on british news(which in reality are not important anyway). Therew is no point in giving exposure and importance to the very propaganda machinery(british media) which though belonging to not even a 4th leage in military is a dangerous adeversary for spreading lies and demoralisation (they call it cold war-the only war they are effective at).Even you see what happened after cold war then you realize that what a shame the cold war was adn only for the benefit of britain. Since then soviet empire is gone but britain still boasts of evil empire called british empire which existed before soviet empire. If it was all right for russins (as was advisedby britain ) to exchange pltanks for tracters, to exchange empire for so called freedom the why did not britain disban empire in 1880(the same level of power as enjoyed by Russia in 1970): why britain not stop forcefully imposing a sell of arms on saudi arabia?propaganda was that soveit union was governed by a select few without any say of parliament. Who were those western media peoples advising Yelstin to storm the parliaments and if possible kill the parlimentarians if they do not approve of yelstil plan to sell Russia to English tobacco and liquers interests and english pimps? Ofcoursre it were mainly english and anglosaxons who were advising jelstin to take all the measures to be sell Russia cheap. soon after storming of parliament yelstin,with the support of anglosaxon media brought a constitutional changeds to give himself a dictatorial power. But then he is a western(read anglosaxon stooge) therefore he was hailed for that in western media. The result. There is only one thing selling in all earst while communist country-Anglo-american [email protected] product(drug), british and [email protected] and liquers and prostitution. English never was, is or will be a language of culture but certainly it has become a language of prostitution and drugS(cigarettes) advertisement. Therfore through that mad, weak, ill man Yelstin these anglosaxons have made prostitutesof women, wifes and girlfriends; have left the helpless children on the cold, cruel streets and left the olds(who worked hard for their pensionable life) pauperforced to beg on the street. Even full war does not do that. Soviet union had better droppeped hundred hydrogen bombs on England and then gone pauper at least it would have satisfaction of having levelled with the enemy. (In fact in cold war russsiac did not need to target anywhre, if britain had the first possibility of being annhilated then war(because it was controlled by british and pro-british elements in states) would never have arisen.Cold war against Russia was started for the asame reason as cold war against Germany has started. TO keep britain in picture as it gives them a sense of false position, to harass other country and wreck others economy. IN august90, the soviets had captured some persons with british passports who were pumping up False notes of Roubles in russia. IN other words they were british agents who ,by putting illegal tenders were making rouble go down in value and ultimatily wrecking russian economy. THe english arew very careful of their savings and pension and economy. their deeds in other countries must be remembered to get even. Therfore english nature is to be cancerous like low form of lifes'like spread and to be vey intusive,and to pass as parasite srom one host to another(they call it cold war). Oher country have no choice to to neuatralize this cancer and remove it forcefully and bodily because otherwise the same game would be going on for ever.The main aim of england in europe is(and has been( to create a rift between germany and France or Russia or whosoever is strong so that england can play her intussive role in europe and bullying role in world. Having failed in creating this rift, the same english propagidists are saying that Europe should not become strong because it will create a rift and possible war between Europe and America. Why? When according to the same english propagandists american cultutre is(or should remain) predominantly european then why should be such a rift. Gradually with europe getting powerfull, this idea of rift will be instilled into americans just as a cold war was started between earstwhile allies by the english agents in media in britain and america. But why should america be influenced-it should not but it is : so let us examine the role of english propagandists in shaping up american foreign and domestic policy.
How britain got hold on america after american independence-- --- This all started soon after Nepoleanic war when in 1816 to 1817 The english again attacked america in her southern flanks and the day was saved only because of some French navy mercinaries and French speaking population of lousiana and such states along with non-english origin americans. But the english invaders infiltrated among that population of Sothern america which today calls itselvesves bible belt (whose god has always been english royalty and who worship only stolen money).By 1850 to 1860 England attacked earswhile friend (in Nepoleanic war) Russia in crimea along with earstwhile foe(now controlled by unpopular english sooge) France.-how the same pattern is so predictable in case of this intusive,cancerous exploitative race called english and anglosaxons. At that very time England was activelly supporting the slave exploitation,in fact all the big plantation owners were english derived and they owned loyalty not to flag of Unitated states of america but to England. -in other words they were agents of foreign country who wnted to keep south america occupy as foreign power again. The civil war in america was not only supported with money and arms by england but rather england was the instigater of american civil war in order to keep whole of america enslaved and if not possible atleast those parts (South) where it could call upon fillial loyalty. It was trully a war of race-not against whites and blacks but against anglosaxons versus blacks, Irish, other european peoples .THe same would be repeated in future. The confederacy was a traitor to america-a british agents;but ironically that same confedercy flag today is being propaganised by thier descendents as symbol of american independence and patriotism.Having lost the proxy war england resorted to the one thing it specialises-terrorism and misinformation. Abraham lincon was murdered by the person very sympathatic to britsh cause.(against Nepolean england had sent several terrorist squads-that is why Nepolean had to declare Himself an Emperor to maintain the clear line of successecion to protect glorious French Revolution). It is very interesting that most of the american presidents assasinated were those whom England did not want being elected. By the end of civil war ,instead of disinfranchasising the british supporters(of southern states) and taking away their land or atleast redistributing evenly the stolen land,the american govt. was pursuaded by britain to spare them and let those southern traitors keep all the stolen land so that drug(tobacco) and cotton would be of assured supply to england. Ofcourse by that time because of fall of Nepolean(brought about not by military might but by conspiracy to embroile the Europeans among each other( conspiracy hatched in london-that was the only english contribution to nepoleans' fall-forget waterloo whereAustrians and prussians had contributed most militarily):consequently england got free reign to exploit the rest of the world and amassed wealth.With that new loot the english shopkeepers started not only factory but also bought titles(Always a purchagable item in englad) and started giving themselves high sounding titles and names. With that they started the rumour that english people had class and aristocracy and america could rub some off it if it was willing to ply right and play right. During that period england started propaganda of herself being friend of america though in britain news it hardly gave any importance to americans except with contempt. When the first world war came, england had already infiltrated in the american decision making process.(Thogh some of southern traitors had fled to Canada, most had remained to slowly spread their cancerous tantackles tn American govt.The first world war had been started by england to destroy Germany and Russia at the same time. ENgland had got envious of german prosperity (by 1870 Germany without an empire had taken over england in industrial).Encyclopaedia brittanica writes(anyone can verify that) about Bismarck that Bismarck was aggresive in domestic policy but very very peacefull in foreign policy because he did not interfere with Others' empire making process.Try telling that to the then French and Austrian peoples. This only shows how the mind of england and anglosaxon race works even today. The same encyclopaedia hardly gives any cridit of roman empire to romans or Italians saying it was an world empire so Italians ((even of Rome) had little to do with with. Take all the credit for a bandit cum shopkeeper's empire(britishwhich lasted 100 to 150 yers but no credit to Romans for an empire of much better quality and longer duration.anyway during 1st world war the slogan of england was freedom for world from german aggraessin who wanted to take away world. This was from a shopkeeper's country who had imposed devastating assault on the whole world not only economically and poltically but also environmentally. The evil was giving a slogan to be spared!Thogh the main intentoion of Germans was against Russia(to which england had secretly given support) on [email protected] backstabbing Germans took decision to sort out the English aswell. With all the resources of empire(men and arms not to speak of money) England could not do anything against Germans who had been embroiled(as was planned by englad-Belgium's souverneighty was an excuse)on two fronts. This shows the inferiority of English military power at the height of her power(but then it never won war on stength but through indescrept looking spys.What hitler said of Jews was all wrong,it never applied to jews.Hitler was barking at wrong tree. What hitler said of jews aplleis only to english race and not anybodyselse. The jews in freemasonery are english agents-in freemasonery are many peoples other than jews. in fact freemasonary is [email protected] race(english) spy machinary as are all the british jornalists who are still working-after clearance from brtitish spy service-mm5-as british spy.The jews got all the blame because their very small fish-main mastermind of international ring to take over world for its own gedy use has been england and no one else. Anyway ,English army and navy were so ineffective against German might that by 1917 england was loosing the war.Then come the immense pressure to declare war against germany by america. -in name of democracy.before that democracy word had not been used to defend anything. Now facing defeat england started talking of democracy just as it started talking of democratic reform 99 years after ruling Hongkong-an year before departure.Democracy from then will mean not what it is supposed to mean in dictionary meaning-but a special kind of system anywhere in the world which protects english interest and which allows england to exploit others race. A very famous news moghul (jewish) had been stopped from running american presidency because he might not have been inclined to rescue england in the 1st world war. Anywhay, the southern constitiuency was pressing hard for america to come to rescue englad who was staring defeat and thus loosing the prospect of enslaved nations who would have been feed from defeat of england. America did come to aid of england and it was called end of isolationalism. But this end of isolationalism would be tolerated only when it suits english interest against others and not in case of others like freedom for Irish people in northern Ireland(an occupied part of Ireland). But american intervention was not decisive-Russian winter wasAs it would be another war 20 years later. But the pattern had been setup for america to make her polices to suit english interest not only in domestic policy but also in foreign affairs. IN fact in pursuing such policy America is acting against the home countries of majority of her citizens. But who says in democracy majority rules . Who says in democracy peoples have choice. Democracy as practised and efined by the british media propagandists is any system of government -even by a pschotic like Jelstin in russia-which benefits british business and gives jobs to british people at the same time making pauper and slave ,stooge of english interest. Between the 2 world war,even before the rise of Hitler in germany the british agents and british sympathisers(who used to keep a photo of quun victoria in '20s as object of worship)started a terror of murder, killings and what not against not only the blacks but also catholics. This is how british always operate. first let be it white versus blacks. then whites versus jews. all one at time otherwise victims will be forwarned and retaliate . then white versus white catholics. then whites vesus white Germans. They do like that in nations they do ti peoples. only if the people realize that and finish these parasites off once for all! Those ve

We don't have to wipe Iran ... (Below threshold)

We don't have to wipe Iran off the map, just its current leadership. When they put up the "Open Under New Management Sign" the fifth or sixth time I'm betting they'll have gotten the message.

Paging Tommy Atkins.<... (Below threshold)
Rodney Graves:

Paging Tommy Atkins.

Cleanup on the subcontinent, centered on the fellow in the tin foil turban.

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Rodney Graves
rodney.g.graves

Where are mak44 and MU when... (Below threshold)

Where are mak44 and MU when you need them? Goobers Singh, what an interesting name...

epador,If, as the ... (Below threshold)
Rodney Graves:

epador,

If, as the Bard pointed out, "Brevity is the soul of wit" that would make our excessively loquacious avatar a lackwit.

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Goobers Singh is just anoth... (Below threshold)
virgo1:

Goobers Singh is just another moniker for Mak44! may as well be ,theres no difference in the rhetoric?

It is america that needs to... (Below threshold)
maygodphuckamerica:

It is america that needs to be nucked. If that were to happen, peace will break out everywhere. These ignorant bloodthirsty yahoo mutt americans need to be taught a really really good lesson.

mgpa,While I'm sur... (Below threshold)
Rodney Graves:

mgpa,

While I'm sure the lunatic left would join you in that sympathy, repeating it in my presence (or the presence of my brothers and sisters in arms) would be contraindicated.

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Jay,Looks like it'... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Jay,

Looks like it's time to do some deleting before avatar singh fills up your server.

MGPA ... (Below threshold)
virgo:

MGPA F.O.A.D!

Muslim Unity,<blockqu... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Muslim Unity,

We want to live in peace with Jews, Chritians, Hindus, and everybody else. Let us unite and spread the message of peace!

This sounds like you are renouncing Islam. Careful not to let other followers of Islam know or they will kill you. Yes, Islam is at war with the west. Muslims know it, but it will take a while for the average westerner to realize it.

I say, let Iran have their nukes. Maybe Iran will grow up, but if not Iran having nukes gives the west the excuse it needs to use it's vastly superior nuclear arms and in militarily effective ways. Then we'll have peace without an Iran in the world.

Rod grave,What arms?... (Below threshold)
maygodphuckamerica:

Rod grave,
What arms?? you mean your keyboard and handy dictionary? shouldn't you be in Iraq anyway? ready to "invade" Iran..I'm certain they'd love to see you!

Sincerely, better than you

America's alliance with the... (Below threshold)
maygodphuckamerica:

America's alliance with the jew spells doomsday. This is baaaaad news folks. Soon the world will be from this evil alliance and everyone will live in peace and harmony. Descendents of the devil and a yahoo mutt nation getting together and causing havoc. hell awaits you. best of luck

Sincerely,
better than you

There's absolutely no reaso... (Below threshold)
maygodphuckamerica:

There's absolutely no reason to talk of peace to america or the jews. They both must be totally destroyed and forgotten. There's no point in negotiating with these warmongering bloodthirsty bastards. The Devil must be destroyed.

Sincerely,

better than you

MGPA -In case you ... (Below threshold)

MGPA -

In case you aren't aware of it - both Moveable Type blog software and Sitemeter visit tracking record your IP address, and your ISP can be easily traced.

You're nowhere near as anonymous as you think you are.

Shhh JLawson ... (Below threshold)
virgo:

Shhh JLawson

Ooops.I sowwy... :... (Below threshold)

Ooops.

I sowwy... :)

MGPA,I've wiped mo... (Below threshold)
Rodney Graves:

MGPA,

I've wiped more respectable and coherent canine excrement from the sole of my shoe.

Sincerely
Mr. Graves

Robert Spencers observation... (Below threshold)
Nahanni:

Robert Spencers observations are correct.

My guess is we have 18 months to 5 years before this whole situation goes "hot". There is really nothing that can be done to stop it, either. That time is long past, we now have to go through the whole thing. The Europeans will bend over backwards to appease Ahmadinejad and the UN is a seraglio filled with whores and eunuchs and inbetween the two they will ensure that Ahmadinejad goes along on his merry way.

The only thing we can really do at the moment is to tell the Iranians through backchannels the obvious-that we launch on warning and will destroy every square inch of Iran. We will not stoop to kiss his ass when we can swat him like a fly. Of course Ahmadinejad will not listen because he wants to start the fire.

We don't need to understand them, we don't need to placate them. We do not need to have any meetings or summits like I am sure Jean-Francois Kerry and the Democrats would love. The only thing we need to know is how to beat them, and beat them so badly that the few that are left would rather cut their own throats then to even think of messing with us again.

What I find humorous in this whole situation is that the Democrats/LLL's are so worried about people like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robinson and evangelical Christians in general while embracing members of fundamentalist, apocalyptic Islam who want them dead simply becuase they exist. Unfortunately for them they will live to learn a harsh lesson about how they shouldn't let their ideology and dogma blind themselves to the true dangers in the world.

I urge people to refrain fr... (Below threshold)

I urge people to refrain from calling evil names to either countries. Why don't you understand friends that all of America is not the Satan or evil? Only some of the policy makers are evil. Do not talk about destroying America or Iran. Because it will cause the loss of innocent people. Remember all our blood is red. When I say racist morons, I mean people who are racists and spread hate, nobody should like them. These people have no religion or culture, they are all the same- made out of hatred.
We can all live in peace and this is the true message which we should spread. Iranians are the world's warmest people, maybe some people in the government are corrupt and the police troubles sometimes, but overall it is a very beautiful country with wonderful people. There are so many fellow Iranians in America. They call Los-Angeles, Tehran-Angeles because of the large number of Tehroonis there. All of these Iranians want to go back home and visit there homelands, but can not because of problematic relations. Families in Iran want to visit USA but can not because of visa problems.
Let us decide to stop the hate, and start afresh. Let us live like brothers and sisters without nuclear weapons.

Muslim Unity,That ... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

Muslim Unity,

That sounds great!

But what is America supposed to do if, despite following your advice, Ahmadinejad launches a nuke against an Israeli or an American target?

Do we just sit by and take it because "innocent Iranians" would get killed? Not likely.

This isn't about hate. It's about self-preservation.

Muslim Unity,Your ... (Below threshold)
Mac Lorry:

Muslim Unity,

Your problem is that we know better than to believe that Iran wants peace; such talk is just another diversion. Sure there are individuals in Iran who want peace, but the government decides issues of war and peace in Iran as in all nations. The reason true democracies don't go to war with each other is because most citizens want peace where it can be obtained honorably. Peace requires compromise, but on some things there can be no compromise. The U.S. will not allow Israel to be destroyed, so to have peace, Iran must renounce its aggressive rhetoric and intentions toward Israel.

I'm all for letting Iran develop their nuclear bomb. They will come to realize such weapons have no viable offensive use given the lead the U.S. and Israel have. Any offensive use of nuclear weapons by Iran will result in the destruction of Iran. Once Iran has an A bomb or claims to have an A bomb, the U.S. will likely declare that it will hold Iran responsible for any nuclear attack on the U.S. or its allies by an unknown source. That's the price Iran pays for joining the nuclear club and making threats against the U.S. and Israel.

On the flip side Iran will have to spend trillions in a futile attempt to harden its nuclear arsenal against a preemptive nuclear strike. Iran will have to increase their oil production and ensure a steady supply to make enough money to stay in the game. In a decade or two, Iran will wake up to find it's oil treasures gone without ever having approached military parity with the U.S. All this because a few Ayatollahs want to spread Islam by the sword, the way it has often been spread in past ages.

MU wants peace alright.<br ... (Below threshold)
SCSIwuzzy:

MU wants peace alright.
The quiet peace of a battlefield when the crows are picking the bones clean.

Muslim Unity:You are... (Below threshold)
Charles Bannerman:

Muslim Unity:
You are damned right I hate you because you are Muslim. Muslims have no human decency and are incapable of advancing out of the stone age.
Because you are a Muslim, I wouldn't trust you in a shithouse with a muzzle on.
I regret you will probable not read this because Raghead Singh decided to do his pathetic doctorial thesis for East Bumfuck University by cutting and pasting all of that anti British bilge.
If I had my way, Muslims and Indians would be herded up and sent back to whence they came.
Fuck You and the camel you rode in on.
Chuck

Dear racist moron- C... (Below threshold)


Dear racist moron- Charles or whatever,

You are too insignificant to be hated by me. In fact I really like you, you make it so much easier for me to point out what the problem really is.
Oh and by the way why do you hate me? Because the richest people in UK are Muslims and Indians? Because Harrods belongs to an Arab? Or the richest man in UK is Indian or because Arabs and Indians own the most expensive houses in UK? Do you know who runs Vodafone and Orange? Or were you too busy in Soho? Do not feel bad, we will employ YOU as our plumber or maybe if we feel nice we might even invite YOU to our weddings so that you can eat free food. Most Brits are nice people, just a bit drunk and rowdy in their pubs, but that's fine
Oh and yes please think that all of us ride camels, 10 years down the line we could probably outsource your brain to India or China, I mean you don't really have to think do you? .
Outsourcing will help you out, oh and please don't call your ISP because the person there is Indian. And so is the guy who speaks to you when you call Barclays or Natwest or British Airways. I feel so sorry for you poor little extinct imperialist stuck up colonial racist puppy dog. Harrods owned by a Muslim? That is so evil.

"You are too insignificant ... (Below threshold)

"You are too insignificant to be hated by me."

In other words, "I got caught being racist, so I'm going to predtend I wasn't."

MU,You could be th... (Below threshold)
Rodney Graves:

MU,

You could be the richest man on the planet, but you are no Englishman.

You could give more alms than the rest of the world combined, and still suffer poverty of the soul.

You could be a deluded follower of a cult founded by a brigand, theif, rapist, and despoiler of virgin barnyard animals, and fit right in.

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Rodney Graves
[email protected]

Muslim Unity:It migh... (Below threshold)
Charles Bannerman:

Muslim Unity:
It might interest you to know I'm not British. I am an American. It might also interest you to know that I don't care if you like me or not. What is important is that I don't like you.

As for who owns the most expensive houses or which businesses, that is imaterial. What is material is that you had to move out of your country of origin to be able to own a house at all.

India is a backward nation with pockets of affluence but the majority of it's people live in abject poverty. Many citizens are considered untouchable not because of anything they did or because of a contageous disease they may have but because of who their parents are.

Muslims are even more backward than Indians not because of economic reasons but because of a religeon that has locked them into a time warp that holds them in the dark ages. Muslims cannot be trusted, their religeon teaches duplicity and they smell bad.
Again, fuck you and may your camel disgrace himself in you face.
Chuck

Religeon? Is that how it is... (Below threshold)

Religeon? Is that how it is spelled? You people ( I am referring to only these bunch of racists and NOT all Americans or Brits) make me laugh. Is "fuck" the only word you learnt? Grow Up, we didn't even use that in kindergarten. Camels? WOW you sure play a lot of X-Box to not know too much about how fast the rest of the world is growing. Do you know about places known as China, Dubai, Bangalore, Malaysia ?
Oh pockets of affluence in India? You mean like 300 million people (fine that's only like 30% of them) but it's still bigger than UK.
Oh so that means Indians and Muslims are so smart that even though they are immigrants in your country they still employ you as their plumber.
Perfect.
Oh and do you hate me? Just because I am a Muslim? Didn't you go to school? Didn't they teach you what a racist is? Or were you too busy smoking pot and getting indoctrinated by a group of skinheads?
I love you man , keep hating me. You give us all a reason to laugh at your puny intelligence levels.


P.S.: Oh and please stay away from my blog ( To all you racists!) , you wouldn't understand anything there. It's a bit too difficult for people like you.

MU,Given the smoke... (Below threshold)
Rodney Graves:

MU,

Given the smoke you have contributed to the disucssion here I don't think you'll be enjoying the surge of attention you seem to long for.

Out Here
Rodney Graves
[email protected]

"...the letter very closely... (Below threshold)
Jabba the Tutt:

"...the letter very closely follows the Koran's required steps before waging war..."

Traces of weapons grade, highly enriched uranium have been found in Iran. Perhaps this means that Iran already has the bomb.

There are renewed reports that the US military is getting in place for an attack on Iran. Bush announces Oval Office speech on immigration for Monday.

Is it possible that this is a cover story to announce the bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities.
I guess we'll find out Monday. I just wanted to get the connecting of the dots on record.

Muslim Unity,Nevil... (Below threshold)

Muslim Unity,

Neville Chamberlain was a man of peace.

He had the papers to prove it too!

ANyone that thinks Iran is ... (Below threshold)
iconoclast022:

ANyone that thinks Iran is the one at fault here should put down the apple pie and take their head out of the dark. They know that Bush plans to attck them no mater what. Just like Iraq! Those that agree with bush make me sick. We stood down the russians. The north koreans have nukes. I think most of you people are very dumb, naive and uninformed. Iran is trying to trade oil in euros. Just like Iraq. Russia is now talking about it. SO is Venezuela. The world is tired of america bulying them. Our econmy is going to take a huge hit. That will suck. Maybe if we acted better towards the rest of the world, they wouldn't want to see us fall. Thank that to bush and his dumb neocons. They have no idea of what diplomacy is. Greed of bastards like cheney will kill this country.




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