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Have we finally arrived?

Yesterday, Wizbang! was the target of a massive Distributed Denial Of Service attack (If I understand Kevin correctly, and that is not a given). We were flooded with comments coming in so fast, it crashed our server.

This, to me, is a badge of honor. You really gotta be doing something right if you get folks that angry. The only other sites I can recall being singled out for such attention are Aaron's Rantblog and Little Green Footballs. And as the author around here who's generated the most comments recently, I personally consider it a badge of honor.

It's an easy thing for me to say. I'm just a "section editor," which basically means that I write my pieces, clean up some of the junk comments and trackbacks, and watch for egregious typos in others' works. (Kevin and I have never really discussed just what my titles involve, and so far all it really means is I have to re-do my home-made business cards every year or so.) Kevin is the guy who has to deal with the really heavy, technical stuff and attacks like yesterday. It's a minor annoyance to me at best. Hell, I have four standing offers to write at other blogs (one even offered me my own subdomain), and if Wizbang were to go dark permanently, I'd pick up and move on. Lord knows I have absolutely no intention of doing so -- I really like it around here, and owe Kevin for giving me my big break lo these 2+ years ago -- but the plain and simple fact is that I will not live or die by whether or not the site is up.

One odd thing that occurs to me, though: I don't recall any of the big liberal sites getting attacked as those on the right are prone to. Has Daily Kos, Talking Points Memo, Democratic Underground, or Atrios' sites ever been shut down by hackers? Have ANY liberal sites ever been the target of a massive attack of the magnitude the right-wingers are subjected to?


Comments (35)

Have ANY liberal sites e... (Below threshold)
astigafa:

Have ANY liberal sites ever been the target of a massive attack of the magnitude the right-wingers are subjected to?

Of course not! Only liberals do bad things.

Such confusing times. Here in Maine, we're trying to figure out why Republican election signs are only attacked/burned/ripped in counties in which no regisitered Democrats live -- indeed, in which no house lacks a pickup truck, and no pickup truck lacks at least five "Support the Troops" magnets, if not one or two "Shoot Environmental Terrorists" bumper stickers.

The sky is full of questions, JT. Wait upon your bovine afflatus; soon you will know.

One concrete example trumps... (Below threshold)
Jay Tea:

One concrete example trumps a ton of bluster, astigafa.

J.

Everyone should see Aaron's... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Everyone should see Aaron's website now. It is hilarious!!!! it is a unique take on the hamster dance. LOL

Jay Tea,You know you... (Below threshold)

Jay Tea,
You know you've REALLY arrived when you get a death threat!

I thought I had one not too long ago, but it was a mistake. I was kind of bummed afterwards. :(

I don't think you see the k... (Below threshold)
Lee:

I don't think you see the kind of hateful ("Kill the F*cking (insert name here) slime!) attitudes on the liberal sites that you see on the conservative sites -- the kind of flaming trolling that gets people angry enough to launch a DOS. That's just my take on it, and I admit don't read KOS and Talking Points and the others you cite, but I do get around the web quite a bit.

Being the target of a DOS attack is not a badge to wear proudly, imho - unless you really like the idea of being hated. And there are those who do of course...

Besides, we all now conservatives are technically inept, and incapable of installing a new mouse -- much less figuring out how to launch a DOS.

For the humor-challenged - the above paragraph is just a joke (insert liberal smiley face here)

now = know - yes, I'm a rea... (Below threshold)
Lee:

now = know - yes, I'm a really bad typist.

What has always bother me t... (Below threshold)

What has always bother me the most is that the hate mail never references the post that provoked it? I really want to know which efforts are better than the rest.

The last big DDOS was NOT aimed at Aaron though everyone assumed it was. Hosting Matters did not identify the true target but it had to be one of the dozen or so blogs that were zapped. It wasn't me, at least I haven't heard from HM so you can cross me off the list. LGF has been moved to a different, shared server system of some sort to reduce their profile as a target.

It's those darn Lutherans.

And the OTHER six attacks s... (Below threshold)

And the OTHER six attacks since the beginning of April, Chuck?

Let's narrow that list of 12 to those who HM moved to different servers. I'll raise my hand to show I'm included in that subset.

When my blog is back, I'll be glad to point you to posts where RoP comments came close to 100.

I can also point you to over 100 different Arabic domains specifically mentioning my site and posting images from it.

And yes, Robert, it's worth peeking at my coronary bypass of the hack right now while I work on securing the blog in the background.

One concrete example tru... (Below threshold)
astigafa:

One concrete example trumps a ton of bluster, astigafa.

I sit corrected.

The week before the DDoS, t... (Below threshold)

The week before the DDoS, there was a post in Arabic where Google's beta web page translator indicated that there was a call to the Muslim Brotherhood to hack my site... and then some.

The week before the DDoS... (Below threshold)
astigafa:

The week before the DDoS, there was a post in Arabic where Google's beta web page translator indicated that there was a call to the Muslim Brotherhood to hack my site... and then some.

I think your site was hacked by PITA; that's an aweful thing to do with a hamster.

For shame!

Is this a "cool" way for a ... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Is this a "cool" way for a conservative blogger to get noticed? To incite enough hatred and anger in a group that they become a subject of a DOS?

Booooorrrring.....

...or would that be PETA? T... (Below threshold)
astigafa:

...or would that be PETA? These radical groups, they're all alike.

Lee, is saying "Bushitler" ... (Below threshold)

Lee, is saying "Bushitler" a cool way for a lib to get noticed?

Aaron, was just quoting the... (Below threshold)

Aaron, was just quoting the info from HM on that day.

I get DDOS'd about twice a ... (Below threshold)
JimK:

I get DDOS'd about twice a year. Price you pay for telling Michael Moore fans that thier emperor is as naked as a Jay Tea///// I mean bird. ;)

Hmmmm.Why would an... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmmm.

Why would anyone bother DDoS'ing the lefty blogs?

To answer your question, ye... (Below threshold)
jp2:

To answer your question, yes, Kos has been hit.

"And as the author around h... (Below threshold)
Phillip II:

"And as the author around here who's generated the most comments recently, I personally consider it a badge of honor."

I dunno about that...seems to me that nothing beats scantily clad teachers and caption contests for driving up the interest level. And of course, there's Kim. Does it have to be all about Jay T?

>And as the author around h... (Below threshold)
Paul:

>And as the author around here who's generated the most comments recently, I personally consider it a badge of honor.

Funny, 2+ years and we never got hit till Kim comes along and then you rush out to take credit. Whatever.

Before your head gets too big Jay, you might remember that Kevin can -with one post per week- generate more traffic than all of us combined.

Reality sucks sometimes but it's still reality.

Aaron said: Lee, is sayi... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Aaron said: Lee, is saying "Bushitler" a cool way for a lib to get noticed?

No. I don't think so. So I ran a search of the term "Bushitler" on this site.

I only checked the first 10 results, but in each of those instances where the term "Bushitler" was used by a commenter on Wizbang! it was used by a conservative commenter who was ridiculing, mocking, or otherwise blasting liberal or liberal viewpoints.

So, no Aaron, I don't believe the poeple who use that term -- you, cro, wave_man, Proud Kaffir (2), cubanbob (2), Jay Tea, docjim505, and CMD, are "cool" because they use it. Do you?

Do you feel "cool" using that term Aaron?

Help me out Aaron. Why do conservatives use that term to suggest that liberals hate Bush and think of his as "Hitler'ish"?

Is this just more conservastive "hate talk" to stir up emotions? To - maybe if they're lucky - have a DOS attack launched at them?

Lee,By your own ad... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

Lee,

By your own admission, you don't read the lefty sites.

I suggest you give KOS and DU a try. You will find there the people who use terms like Bushitler and mean it. We don't make this crap up.

The truth is much worse than you imagine.

Lee, By your own admissi... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Lee, By your own admission, you don't read the lefty sites.

I said I don't read those sites listed.

I used Google to search for... (Below threshold)
MikeB:

I used Google to search for 'moron' on DailyKos. Google found 29,300 morons on DailyKos. By comparison, Google found 375 morons on Wizbang (liberal commenters most likely).

:)

Why do the rightwing blogs (leftist speak for non-leftwing blog) engage in so much more name callling and vitrol than the leftwing blogs do ? (/sacrasm)

- MikeB

^vitriol - MikeB</... (Below threshold)
MikeB:

^vitriol

- MikeB

Just checked Daily Kos - se... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Just checked Daily Kos - searching the last 4 weeks there were zero instances where the term "bushitler" was used in a story, and only one instance where it appeared in a comment - see excerpt below, where the commenter was quoting a satirical piece which appeared on a right wing blog. I'd provide a link to the comment, but for some odd reason Wizbang's moderation module filters out links to Daily Kos. Imagine that...

Here's a satire piece from a right wing blog

Running a fascist state is harder than you think; in fact, most fascist states fail within the first decade. That's why I feel it important to point out obvious failings of the new fascist America to help keep it healthy and oppressive. The most blatant (and loud) problem right now is the improper silencing of dissenters.

Honestly, my only experience with fascism is voting for Bush twice, but here is what I've observed. Obviously, speech is being oppressed, because we are constantly (and annoyingly) being told by liberals that their rights are being taken away and that dissent is being treated as treason. That might seem like a good start, but the problem is that people shouldn't explicitly be able to say that they're being oppressed. Everyone should know that already, and any who complains about it should be jailed or rounded up into camps for speaking out against the state. It's really a huge rookie fascist state mistake not to do that. While curtailing civil liberties is a must, it is also crucial to quiet those who complain about that.

" If I were a BusHitler, I'd disappear a few dissenters without admitting to it publicly."
I know, you're probably wondering, "If we quiet everyone who complains about out fascist evil, how will anyone know what's being oppressed and thus what not to do?" That's a good question. If I were a BusHitler, I'd disappear a few dissenters without admitting to it publicly. Then, people will whisper about it and be scared. Yes, you could be more explicit about it, but, not admitting to your oppressive actions

So do right-wingers use the term "bushitler" to incite anger and angst in their fellow right-wingers -- and then blame it on the democrats (as usual)?

Inquiring minds want to know - the elections are approaching....

MikeB - you're good. Come o... (Below threshold)
Lee:

MikeB - you're good. Come over the dark side. I'll introduce you to some really hot liberal babes....

Links to DKos, DU, or any n... (Below threshold)

Links to DKos, DU, or any number of other lefty sites are absolutely not moderated. You can link them in the comment section, no problem.

All links are moderated by the number of links, not the destination. Put too many links into a comment and the software guesses that you might be a spammer. Since the comment may have no other spam-like content it's held for review as opposed to being outright junked. I'll up the link number a bit just in case...

ok - thanks Kevin. I've had... (Below threshold)
Lee:

ok - thanks Kevin. I've had difficulties with just one link in my post causing that post to be not published but sent to moderation-land instead. I'll email you if/when I come across it again.

Yes, Atrios gets DDOS'd pre... (Below threshold)
Jimbo:

Yes, Atrios gets DDOS'd pretty frequently.

Searching for DDOS and "Daily Kos" does get one LGF blowhard threating to DDOS them, but no examples of it actually happening.

>Yes, Atrios gets DDOS'd pr... (Below threshold)
Paul:

>Yes, Atrios gets DDOS'd pretty frequently.

Now he deserves it... Not becasue he is liberal or conservatie, just cuz he's an asshole.

my 2 cents

Chuck, HM is being evasive ... (Below threshold)

Chuck, HM is being evasive on the truth. Annette of HM is on record that the target was not major and that it was moved off the main network. I fit the description. There might be one or two more sites that qualify.

I can confirm that the traffic was coming from Arabic sites.

I also had a month of previous attacks.

I can also point you to over 100 different Arabic domains that posted images from my blog with text calling for hacking it.

I may be wrong, but one might think that another blog out there might be bitching about being the target by now, no?

Geez, Paul, can't you allow... (Below threshold)
Jay Tea:

Geez, Paul, can't you allow me my ONE BRIEF moment of glory, even if it is delusional?

J.

Wouldn't having to enter a ... (Below threshold)

Wouldn't having to enter a code (pardon my lack of jargon) to enter a comment prevent this?

J

Wouldn't having to ente... (Below threshold)

Wouldn't having to enter a code (pardon my lack of jargon) to enter a comment prevent this?

It would help, but not completely eliminate it. A service like Typekey would do the same thing.

That said, it would impact readers ability to interact with the site; big time. As long as feasible we're sticking with open comments. Maybe someday that will change, but in this case the comment script was attacked. Requiring the user to enter a code does nothing to prevent thousands of invocations of that script all at once via a spambot. That was the problem - resource tapping. Many of the bots weren't even calling the right script.

Anyway, via technology, I've added a system that identifies the addresses and dynamically bans them from reaching the site altogether. That's proved to be very effective killing the attacks.

I was asked about the attack, and responded that it was from all appearences just a really big commerical spam attack. The denial of service was a byproduct, probably not the goal.




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