When you consider all the wierdos, hoaxsters, and just plain coincidences/mistaken identity that should have happened in 30 years, having no report is even more suspicious.

Believe the lie.

Dear Paul,

I wanted to know if you know anything about paranormal science? It might not be very relevant to your post, but if you could help me out with it, I would appreciate it. Can somebody do a course in it to find out more? It seems very fascinating to me.
Thank You dear friend.

Aliens would know about the cameras and use the "cloaking" mechanism on their ships.

;-)

Irrational belief is a powerful force.

It also brings in a fair amount of revenue to my state.

I remember seeing video of a high-altitude weather balloon once. By complete chance, a few days later, I caught sight of one. A big, white orb waaaaay high up in the air. I was glad I knew what it was ahead of time................

I think the fact that we are neither a) enslaved or b) eaten -- is proof enough we haven't been visited.

Any being capable of travelling interstellar distances would be so far advanced to us we would be nothing more than amoebas to them.

I recall watching an F-15 do an air show practice during dusk/early evening. With full afterburners going it was quite a sight. I knew what it was. Naturally, they next day there were reports of UFOs over the airbase and the Air Force released a statement saying nothing had been amiss and it was just one of their jets practicing air show maneuvers.

Of course, this was dismissed by the conspiracy theorists. And the press was more than willing to take their word over rather than some experts. I was interviewd about it (total random man on the street interview) and admitted seeing it and as a former pilot recognized it as an F-15. I was then asked if I knew where the reporter could get a good bagel. I said "I don't know."

When the interviewed aired it was edited to the point of me saying I was an ex-pilot, then a spliced in question "Do you think it was a USAF jet or a geuine UFO?" followed by my "I don't know." response to the bagel question. A complete fabrication of my statements.

I knew then and there it was just another so called journalist looking for a story where none existed and they were willing to lie, cheat and probably steal from infants if it furthered their story.

I had enough runs-in with the media in my military days but generally wrote it off to anti-military bias or ignorance. I've since come to the conclusion that journalists are nothing more than political/sensationlists hacks with no ethical standards and little redeeming value.

Pathogical liars, politicians and jouranlists are pretty neck to neck in who is willing to lie more and persoanlly feel journalists are nosing out the other two.

Former president Jimmy Carter still believes he saw one!

This is the ..ah lamest post you have made in a while..kinda seriously..with everything that is floating around today ..this is your topic?
I know you could post the ABC Nsa thing...or Rove leaving on WED...or Bush speech tonight..or the first of fond farewells to Delay leaving or the CIA debacle..or how there is a functioning govt in Iraq or how all polls show that Bush has nowhere to go but up...or,;

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>Former president Jimmy Carter still believes he saw one!

It was a rabbit.

Drew

I'm sorry... Did I miss your check? I didn't think I was on your payroll.

"Declassified [government] study ... unnamed author of the report" -- come on, this thing was plainly authored BY the aliens! Just another piece of disinformation. They're getting desperate -- can't you see how the crop circles are getting larger and more numerous every year -- Repent! ;-)

Sorry, guys and gals....Am ex pilot and air traffic controller...saw one over Rockford, Illinois Sept.,1972. No baloon or swamp gas.

Ed

The aliens are here among us. Their leader is Howard Dean.

I've been telling my friends for years that digital cameras would finish killing the UFO era. When everyone on the planet has a camera in the car and another in their phone, any real UFOs would get snapped from 14 angles.

Ha! All it's going to do is create new opportunities for UFO reports by people who have no clue how their digital camera works.

Here's another one.

No doubt Anachronda... Mind you I never said digicams would make people smarter.... Only that a lack of repeatability hurts the argument long haul...

The same can be said for the local TV station's "Super Mondo Galactic 3000" doppler radar. With so many sensors we shoudl get more hits...

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>Sorry, guys and gals....Am ex pilot and air traffic controller...saw one over Rockford, Illinois Sept.,1972. No baloon or swamp gas.

Ed I saw one too... In flight school no less when I was a (then) certified observer, flying search and rescue missions looking for downed aircraft. (ie no redneck civilian)

I saw a craft that defied all the rules we learned in ground school. It lit, it pulsed, it glowed, it did all sorts of weird thigns.

And the thing was flying right for downtown New Orleans... I was thrilled. FINALLY a UFO in the middle of a hugh crowd of poeple and not touching down in front of bubba in his pick-up truck... who BTW had been seen drinking earlier. -- We were going to get an answer on this one...

I was 20 miles out of town when I spotted it and I was driving 80 MPH to get a look at the thing (driving west at night) it was crossing north to south on the horizion. I was on the CB radio and everyone was talking about it and had no clue what it was.

About the time I caught up to it (I had been watching it a solid 15 minutes) it was right over the city.

Then it turned in its own body length and I got a good view of the Budwiser airship -- complete with flashing electronic billboard.

But for 20 minutes or so I would have made a great witness.

Unfortunately, with the advent of ubiquitous digital editing, the UFO age is being replace by the "Don't believe anything on a digital medium age".

If it gives comfort, believe the report.
Without the ability to do anything about it, there are plenty of reasons why a government would come to such a conclusion for public consumption.

Also, a civilization advanced enough might not require an "A-to-B" flight-path through standard space as we understand it.

I absolutely hate sounding like a kook, but if someone states that it is a "fact" that UFO's do not exist, I will state, unreservedly, that I know "for a fact" that they do. I will trust my own experience before anything else.

No government report will convince me otherwise, though I know why those reports are made.

Yeah, I'm one of those guys.

Proof that aliens exist is the fact that they have stopped visiting us.

Despite the 4 year research report. I and many others have seen UFOs which cannot be explained as plasma.
Another false report.

"I absolutely hate sounding like a kook, but if someone states that it is a "fact" that UFO's do not exist, I will state, unreservedly, that I know "for a fact" that they do."

I don't maintain that it is a "fact" they don't exist. You can't prove a negative. It isn't up to the sceptic to prove something isn't. It's up to the believer that something is. The burden of proof is on the claim.

Far from saying that because I am an ex-pilot therefore I am an expert on everything in the sky it is quite the opposite. As an ex-pilot I am familiar with more things than the average person on the street--and I still don't have one millionith of a clue what goes on naturally in our sky. I am much more of the "it's something our world does natuarlly that I personally don't understand it" rather than the arrogant "I'm so superior that I know everything out there so if I don't know it must be alien."

The incredible leap of faith it takes to go from "I don't know what that is" to "it must be an alien civilization visiting us" is so great I've seen religions started on far less.

It is the height of arrogance to think humans have the smallest clue about our world. To coin an old cliche...we don't even know what we don't know. People look back at primitive tribes and chuckle at some of the ridiculous things they believed. Look around. Nothing has changed except the names of the gods we chose to blame...

This was a fun one! What I love about conspiracy theories is the ease in which they can be "supported". Just like in the fanciful Da Vinci code... or other cracked conspiracy... if you approach them and say: "Ah... but do you have proof?" all they need to do is lean in towards you, lift one eyebrow slightly and in a secretive voice say: "If it's true, there wouldn't be any proof... would there?"

Gordon Cooper, the last Astronaut in space alone said that while he was an Air Force pilot he saw numerous silver disks that would out maneuver our jets at will, doing such things as diagonal displacement. He is just one of the very high profile witnesses to view this phenomena first hand.

The party line has and will always be that UFOs do not exist. To admit that they do not only proves them to be liars (which we already know) but would throw government and religion on it's head, as well as recorded history.

It's not true that sightings are on the decline. The digital age has brought about many techie "experts" who think that everything is done with Photoshop.

Want to know how ET views us? Try watching a video from the 80s and laughing at the giant mobile phones, then multiply that by 1000. Why do they need to land and announce themselves to such a primitive race, what do they gain? They've done it before and are just seen as Gods. So funny to think that at this point in our technological development that we think we're so clever. Capturing a UFO at 14 different angles, as if digital cameras make a better photographer. First of all, sightings never last that long. Second, they move at high speeds. Third, a lot of them are at night and fourth, their mode of transportation usually create magnetic distortions around their craft. Other military witnesses say they have the ability to disappear and reappear at will.

My argument against UFOs is the surface of the Moon. If we were being visited, that's the first place they would land. But there's not a trace of 'em anywhere (enormous monoliths buried beneath the surface nothwithstanding).

"paranormal science"? That's like chaste fornication or whiskey-guzzling sobriety. It doesn't matter if you're talking about UFO's, pyramid power, crystal healing, or whatever, it's all superstition and foolishness. Some people promote this stuff because they are ignorant and unable to think logically, others because they want to make money from gullible people. You're better off reading magazines like The Skeptical Inquirer and The Skeptic.

""paranormal science"? That's like chaste fornication or whiskey-guzzling sobriety. It doesn't matter if you're talking about UFO's, pyramid power, crystal healing, or whatever, it's all superstition and foolishness. Some people promote this stuff because they are ignorant and unable to think logically, others because they want to make money from gullible people. You're better off reading magazines like The Skeptical Inquirer and The Skeptic."

What an idiot, a pure Skeptic is someone who's been made a fool at one point in their life and is terrified of looking dumb, which they actually are. You're missed at the bar, someone is waiting for you to come complain the entire night about pointless problems, drink up! Too much TV make bad brain! :)

Of course I believe that we have been visited and are being visited by extraterrestrial spacecraft. The proof is there, in practically any way you would like it. Pictures, eyewitnesses from higly respected sources, government documents, videos, mass sightings, everything is there. Disbelievers, have you look around on the net AT ALL?

My advice is to look into it for yourself--If you investigate this, you'll find out quickly that we have been visited and are being visited by extraterrestrial spacecraft. Roswell did happen (with a crashed spacecraft), the government holds this information above top secret and covers it up, etc. etc.

How mis/mal-informed can one person possibly be?! Recently Steven Speilberg made a similar comment, revealing his absolute ignorance on the contemporary evidence for UFOs/alien visitation/flying saucers (call them what you will, accurately or inaccurately). Since the advent of the digital camera, especially the video camcorder, there has been an explosion in UFO footage and stills. Where does Paul get his bad information? This report by the Brits was, on the whole, utterly laughable. The biggest problem with the UFO enigma is simple ignorance of the subject, and usually by those who don't want or can't face the facts in evidence.

The UFO phenomenon is a well documented fact. However, 'Unidentified Flying Objects' is a misnomer: how about "unexplained manisfestations of an un-understood intelligence"? Our inability to understand the phenomenon underlines our sensorial and intellectual limitations. That, no one has the guts to spell out.

I want to know the truth. I am sick of being played and indoctrinated by lies.

But lets see, having a voice in America today usually gets you killed.

Why would intelligent life visit a dead planet?

My argument against UFOs is the surface of the Moon. If we were being visited, that's the first place they would land. But there's not a trace of 'em anywhere (enormous monoliths buried beneath the surface nothwithstanding).