Hey look, another "patriot" trying to make a buck off the blood of our soldiers in Iraq. I'm surprised....

Lee:
Yeah, but this time the movie isn't the overbearing leftist wankery that everyone is so used to seeing.

if you haven't seen it, go see Andy Garcia's "The Lost City" also starring Dustin Hoffman and Bill murray, as well as some famous latin actors/actresses.

one problem with going to see it, you can't unless you live in a handful of cities. Hollywood completely ignored it, is not promoting, wrote idiotic and historically flawed reviews and the big distributors didn't pick it up. I was fortunate enough to see it the whole 2 weeks it showed in Charlotte at one theater in Ballayntine....It was unbelievable, and since it showed the truth of castro/Che it got blackballed. Soderberg has another "Che" movie coming out, that will for sure romanticize the evil fool like motorcycle diaries.

Lee shows his ignorance once again when he states:

Hey look, another "patriot" trying to make a buck off the blood of our soldiers in Iraq. I'm surprised

From Pat Dollard's website about this project:

A large percentage of the profits from this project will be donated to education and other funds for the families of those Marines I was
with who made the ultimate sacrifice. The rest will simply go to funding ongoing operations.

also, here is an idiotic anti-american, anti-military propoganda piece coming out that should get your blood boiling.
http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/?p=1673

Lee, go talk to your little bitch Michael Moore...

George Clooney's this sort of asshat who thinks making a movie about going to war ("Three Kings") is the same thing as going to war.

Keep that pretty face, George, lest you have to make a living with that brain of yours!

So, Lee... Is it logically possible for *anyone* to make a movie or documentary about Iraq (History channel, Discovery, CNN?) for any reason whatsoever other than "making a buck" off of the blood of our soldiers?

How would you identify that person or production company? Please explain and list what we should look for so we don't contribute any money to cold-hearted profiteers.

I figure you're the one to ask since you seem to be so in tune with other people's motivations.

Oh, funny. One of the video clips starts with the soldiers talking about World of Warcraft which is playing on an open laptop right before something goes boom. I was thinking, dang that music sounds familiar. LOL.

From Dollard's website:

Help get out the message to support the war in Iraq and the troops there. Help the Marines who served have their story told. And help the families of the Marines I served with who were killed.

I call this making a buck off of the blood or our soldiers in Iraq, sorry.

You are sympathetic towards the families of soldiers in Iraq? Well, give me money (Dollard is asking for outright donations on his website) and I will share some of it (the profits off the movie, if there ever are any that is) with the families.

It's patriotic flag-waving which will result in a personal profit for Dollard. Teary-eyed Americans will hit that paypal button and put money in this person's bank account thinking they are helping "... the families of the Marines I served with who were killed"

In the interview linked Dollard admits he may have to get a real job if this scam... errr... "effort" isn't successful in raising enough money to continue.

Yes, I call that making a buck off of the blood of our soldiers in Iraq. Sorry if that rubs you the wrong way, it's just my opinion.

What is your opinion, Lee, of the upcoming World Trade Center movie starring Nicolas Cage?

So Lee, does that mean the MSM is also making a buck off of the blood of our soldiers?

Please, spare us your faux outrage. Your only outrage is that this guy is trying to bring back the news that seldom gets reported back here in the U.S.

Having Lee around is like having an Automatic Murtha. 100% crap, 100% of the time.

Hey Lee,

What the hell do you believe in? Every one of your posts that I've read has been "anti"-something. How about giving us an idea of what you believe in? Tell us: is there anything that is worth defending or dying for in the USA?

Oops. I forgot what bobdog said in another thread when referring to you:

Folks, you're wasting your time. Somebody told Lee that it was cute to play "devil's advocate" when he was little. He injects his obnoxious "brilliance" into nearly every thread as if his opinion is the only one that matters, and never concedes anything -- he's always right, and you're always stupid and pathetic. Bow before his superior intellect now, won't you?

Silly me, thinking that I could actually have a discussion with you.

So Lee, does that mean the MSM is also making a buck off of the blood of our soldiers?

What do you think J.R.? Are any newspaper publishers asking for paypal donations so they can share the profits of their newspaper with the families of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq.

Wave the flag in front of you guys and some of you get downright stupid.

Silly me, thinking that I could actually have a discussion with you.

Posted by: Doug L. at June 26, 2006 05:00 PM

If all you're going to do is quote someone else, you aren't having a discussion with me, wingnut.

Look guys, I stated my opinion on this post, why don't you state yours and we'll all go on with our lives. You barking dogs following me around this blog, commenting about me instead of about the posts, isn't fair to this site and to its readers.

Lee commenting on this site isn't fair to anyone.

Lee

You have the same impact as a pink fart in a blue bottle, which is NONE. And you smell bad too.

After reading your drivel i'm quite convinced you are not
1) Very Smart
2) Mature
3) a patriot.

I also am convinced that you ARE

1) a snot nosed brat
2) willfully ignorant of fact
3) a hate baiter.

You should go drown yourself and save some air for the rest of us.

Lee, you still haven't told me how to identify the motivationally pure. I asked you a rather specific question that you didn't answer. And it matters to be able to identify the motivationally pure... simply identifying the impure becomes a problem when everyone seems to qualify as impure blood-for-money opportunists. I need to know how to find the good guys, Lee. So help me out here.

Otherwise I'm left with the "money" test, and NO ONE passes it, Lee.

Newspapers... you don't think they're out to make money? Because it's not a donation but crass commercialism selling advertisement it doesn't exist?

So, like, the blogs with pay-pal tip jars are morally inferior to blogs with blog-ads?

(I just realized that this is yet another "turned upside down" part of the world... I thought that capitalism was supposed to be socially oppressive and altruism (charity or *giving* money) was supposed to be morally superior.)

Michael Yon uses paypal on his site too in order to take donations. I guess he is just trying to make a buck off the blood of our soldiers in Iraq as well.

/sarcasm

to the leftist tools who think this is all about making a buck..I think this Dollard fellow would have made a HELL of alot more by staying in Hollywood and doing whatever it is he did in Hollywood. I dont think this is the kind of enterprise you go into if making money is your primary concern. ANd yes, putting his ass on the line along with the Marines for that long a period of time along with allowing the Marines uncensored and unfiltered access to the camera says alot.

You ever notice how leftists hate whenever our guys and gals in uniform are allowed to speak for themselves since the vast majority(whatever their personal opinion of the legitimacy of the war in Iraq)are ready and willing to do their job and do it well without feeling the need to apologize or beg for forgivness.

So, the media outlets that use pictures and stories (often exagerations) of soldiers and the war that give nothing "back" to the soldiers or their families are OK...
But a guy that makes a film about soldiers and states that donations made will send a portion to the soldiers and their families, he is a war profiteer.

So, Lee, what about Oliver Stone's WTC movie?

I haven't seen it Scsi - if the film is relevant to this post, why don't you tell all of us about it, and tell us why you felt it's important enough to bring it up twice.

It is amazing that every political blog has one little booger who
smells it up with his "opinions". Lee why don't you take your "loser" opinions elsewhere. They certainly are not appreciated here.

Marxists and other collectivists not only believe it is evil to solicit money from the general public, and not a government, for privately embarked-upon endeavors, they tend to believe that only endeavors performed by government employees (as well as funded by taxes -- collected, of course, by force of law) are above reproach and conducted by saints (government employees and politicians).

Their claim or implication that it's impossible for them to conceive of anyone engaged in any kind of private enterprise for benevolent reasons is actually a humilating psychological confession on their part.

How can you not see the relevance of a film about a terrible disaster which will certainly make big bucks and which certainly a whole lot of people got paid better than I ever will to produce?

Is that not making money off the suffering of others, Lee?

Well, of course it is. So what about it? Are you going to condemn Oliver Stone the way you condemn Dollard?

Or is the the "patriot" part? Anti-war leftists get a pass on their capitalistic opportunism, while people who are pro-victory get slammed for so much as admiting that something as crass as money exists? Maybe you should just admit that you personally have a problem with Dollard and are projecting your feelings on his supposed motivations which you know nothing and can know nothing about?

And I'm STILL waiting for you to tell me how to recognize the pure of heart.

Or did it just sting too much to hear the left called on their hypocracy?

I didn't see Oliver Stone saying that if you donate money to him on Paypal, before his film was even finished much less released, that he would share the profits of his "film" with the families of soldiers killed in Iraq, Synova, do you?

At this point Dollard only has footage he's shot in Iraq, he doesn't even have a "film", and you're comparing Stone's film to him? I would have nothing against Dollard if he just outright asked for the donations to fund his film...

...but to dangle the grieving, heart-broken widows and orphans of American soldiers as a lure for a paypal donation to pay his rent - that just stinks.

Lee:
Hmm, but its fine to go pitch your movie to big bucks Hollywood, as long as you shape the film to conform to the beliefs of the donors?

So, Lee. If someone cared about the widows and orphans, for real, instead of just wanting to pay their rent... how would they behave differently?

You STILL have not explained to me how to identify the pure of heart. You're imputing really *vile* motivation to someone you certainly don't know. Are you God, Lee?

Having fun, Lee? I bet you're chuckling there in front of your monitor....

Yes, there is NO discussion going on here with you. Synova and epador (to name two) have asked you to respond to specific questions. Do you? Nope, just more liberal regurgitation: "Pat Dollard, bad!! Oliver Stone, good!!" Talk about a wingnut....

How about this? Could we pay YOU to go away?

So, Lee. If someone cared about the widows and orphans, for real, instead of just wanting to pay their rent... how would they behave differently?

I'm not going to play 20 questions with you Synova. I guess you win, and I've been defeated. Feel better?

There is nothing "NEW" about this "McCarthyism" in Hollywood.

There, a post that's on-topic.

Lee is a moral cretin and an evolutionary deadend.

Is Lee claiming moral superiority again? Ah, (s)he's always good for a laugh, that Lee.

Doug L. at June 26, 2006 05:00 PM

Hey Lee,
What the hell do you believe in?

If it's anti-Bush, anti-Cheney, anti-Haliburton, anti-Big Awl, anti-Business, anti-Conservative, anti-Republican, anti-Libertarian, anti-Military, anti-Patriotism, anti-American, he believes in it. He's like the old man who stated, "I don't know what it is, but I'm agin' it!"

Devil's advocate is right. He reminds me of the the Bible major from a major Christian university I knew when I was a teenager. I once told him that he liked to argue so much, that if someone told him the sky was blue, he would argue that it was green just for the sake of argument. He had written what became one of my favorite sayings out of the front of his Bible, but he never observed it:
Talk is cheap, because the supply is greater than the demand.

Lee's words aren't worth the electricity it takes to power up his computer.

My point Lee, as other's have alluded to, it that Stone is making a movie based on single largest loss of life in the war between western civilization and islamo-fascism (note I did not say islam).
He will make money off it.
His tribute, in theory, will honor the 3,000-some people that lost their lives that day. Had them stolen without warning.
Dollard is making a film that will honor the 2000-some men and women that have given their lives since then in the hopes that another 9-11 can be prevented.

Stone has Hollywood bending over backwards to fund his film, Dollard does not. Given Stone's track record, and Dollard's lack of one, I can understand that.
So Dollard asks for donations to help make the film, and promises to pass part of the donations on to the soldiers and their families.

You won't comment on Stone's film because you haven't seen it.
But you will comment on Dollard's, which you also haven't seen.
Dollard who is "giving back" to you is wrong.

So what is your opinion of Stone making profit on the backs, bodies and blood of the WTC tragedy?

Now, do you plan to answer any questions, or to just continue beeing a shitbird?

Hey Lee,
What the hell do you believe in?

I believe in the freeedom of speech.

And I believe that, as I tried earlier, you guys really should focus on commenting on topic. When all you do is talk about me it makes you look like a bunch of ill-informed airheads who only spew rhetoric, instead of thoughtful, informed voters.