Actually you robbed the United States Marine Corps.

Jay stole it too.

While I hate to come to the NYT defense, they are in turn 'honoring the threat' as they see it. They just see republicans being in control of the US government a greater threat than AQ. I think that is part of what needs to get publicized. That the NYT and most of the MSM sees a republican controlled US government as a greater threat than AQ. Murtha said recently he saw the Bush administration as a greater threat to world peace than North Korea or Iranian Nukes, etc.

That is the message we need to drive home and let the voters decide who they think is the greater threat.

I'm the neighborhood "progressive" and I see Al Queda as a very serious threat. And, of course, I'm dedicated to the Constitution and separation of powers and all those things that the founders did to give us a chance to keep our Republic. Unlike conservatives, I don't see these positions as inconsistent--I think freedom and safety are compatible.

Of course, I understand that the Right doesn't think our freedom is being threatened. We disagree. Reasonable people disagree all the time. This is America.

I try to understand and respect your position; I think it is honest and honorable. But I disagree.

I'm the neighborhood "progressive" and I see Al Queda as a very serious threat. And, of course, I'm also dedicated to the Constitution and separation of powers and all those things that the founders did to give us a chance to keep our Republic. Unlike conservatives, I don't see these positions as inconsistent--I think freedom and safety are compatible.

Of course, I understand that the Right doesn't think our freedom is being threatened by signing statements and the like. We disagree. Reasonable people disagree all the time. This is America.

I try to understand and respect your position; I think it is honest and honorable. But I respectfully disagree.

Lorie, I don't know if this is your pigeon, as an aside, but the imperative honor the threator 'The Dick Cheney One percent solution '"if there was even a 1 percent chance of terrorists getting a weapon of mass destruction ... the United States must now act as if it were a certainty." seems a peculiar and selective tunnel vision of an administration which prides itself on being so responsible for our safety. In other words, it makes good politics(for them.,if not for us) The Iraqi adventure is hugely expensive to the US public purse, of the tune of at least 5 -8 billion$ a month, but to big businesses such as Haliburton whose stock has gone up 600 percent since the Iraqi invasion, it has been boon..While a much more far-reaching threat to the future of the US : global warming is almost entirely minimised or belittled by an administration, in large part because they are not animated by new evidence and trends which are not in the interest of war resources industries or energy companies which have inside access to the VP/ Presidental circle ( (but not all of them)
From Rolling Stone's coming interview with Al Gore "This is not a partisan issue. I talked to a CEO of one of the ten largest companies in the United States, who supported Bush and Cheney. He told me, "Al, let's be honest. Fifteen minutes after George Bush leaves the presidency, America is going to have a new global-warming policy, and it doesn't matter who's elected".. This potential threat, (which has a far greater chance than Chen.s one percent threshold, let´s say perhaps a 33 % chance af causing massive destuction in the next 40 years in the US) is dismissed as blithely as the August 6, 2001 Al-Queda memorandum was in Crawford. And the consequences of a non proactivce policy, are far more liable to be irreversiable, than pre 9/11 terror laxity was.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve that was great! You should take the bit on the road!!!

Wait, you mean he's not joking???

Oh, sorry about that.

Lorie, as I said in e-mail, if that is your idea of "robbing" me, I ought to give you my bank account number and let you "rob" that a bit, too.

J.

Steve Crickmore at June 30, 2006 05:50 PM

From Rolling Stone's coming interview with Al Gore...

He's right on one point...

Fifteen minutes after George Bush leaves the presidency, America is going to have a new global-warming policy, and it doesn't matter who's elected

Sorry for the written Al Gore impression. Couldn't resist.

P.S. He's obviously living in a Pre-9/11 world.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer

Does this mean that y'all will eventually recognize that going to Iraq was the right thing to do???

Chuck, I wish you were right but we will have along time to wait before anything sanguine in Iraq develops and at such cost, since as Powell said yesterday when asked "if we are ever going to get out of Iraq. "We are," he told me, "but we're not going to leave behind anything we like because we are in the middle of a civil war."