Yeah, you gotta love that little chimp.

Yes indeed I love the chimp.
Lee your living proof that the only good commie is a dead one, now do the world a favor and make your self a good commie (in an environmentally friendly manner).

This was on non-syndicated talk radio this morning here in blue as blue can be Rhode Island. The tone of the callers commenting was basically that MSM was overstepping...even though they don't like the President, they thought this was pretty ridiculous as a focus of the cable news programs.

It's the most intelligent thing George has said since the fighting broke out -- of course the television outlets would be using it.

This report makes me think of the 5 year olds who giggle with glee and tattle whenever someone says a bad word...

"Mommy mommy! George said a bad word! He said the S-Word, Mommy!"

Lee

The bank called. Your morality check was returned marked "NSF".

The bs that the Drive by Media saying that President Bush's microphone was unintentional is a load of shit. He intentionally left it open to have it pick up exactly what he meant. He got his point across and now the Drive by Media is having a cow.

I'd like to see him flesh out the whole idea for a speech. :)

Darleen - Coming from people like you, who think they've attained some sort of moral high ground by electing an idiot to the office of President, that really hurts.

Your opinion of me is very important to me -- in fact, if you didn't loathe me, and weren't provoked into childish statements like that as a result, I would conclude that I wasn't trying hard enough.

Thanks for the validation! Now let's see what dumbsh*t thing George does next. The world hasn't laughed at our country enough yet today --- let's give them more Georgie! Here's a banana -- Speak boy, Speak!

Typical troll dribble . . .

Please don't feed the troll.

Ah, the actual admission of the pooh fligging monkey/troll.

Please don't respond to any of the pooh fligging monkey/troll's comments. It only encourages more.

Transcript

Bush: Yo Blair How are you doing?
Blair: I'm just...
Bush: You're leaving?
Blair: No, no, no not yet. On this trade thingy...[inaudible]
Bush: yeah I told that to the man
Blair: Are you planning to say that here or not?
Bush: If you want me to
Blair: Well, it's just that if the discussion arises...
Bush: I just want some movement.
Blair: Yeah
Bush: Yesterday we didn't see much movement
Blair: No, no, it may be that it's not, it maybe that it's impossible
Bush: I am prepared to say it
Blair: But it's just I think what we need to be an opposition
Bush: Who is introducing the trade
Blair: Angela
Bush: Tell her to call 'em
Blair: Yes
Bush: Tell her to put him on them on the spot.Thanks for [inaudbible] it's awfully thoughtful of you
Blair: It's a pleasure
Bush: I know you picked it out yourself
Blair: Oh, absoultely, in fact [inaudble]
Bush: What about Kofi [inaudible] his attitude to ceasefire and everything else ... happens
Blair: Yeah, no I think the [inaudible] is really difficult. We can't stop this unless you get this international business agreed.
Bush: Yeah
Blair: I don't know what you guys have talked about but as I say I am perfectly happy to try and see what the lie of the land is but you need that done quickly because otherwise it will spiral
Bush: I think Condi is going to go pretty soon
Blair: But that's that's that's all that matters. But if you, you see it will take some time to get that together
Bush: Yeah, yeah
Blair: But at least it gives people...
Bush: It's a process, I agree. I told her your offer to...
Blair: Well...it's only if I mean... you know. If she's got a..., or if she needs the ground prepared as it were... Because obviously if she goes out, she's got to succeed, if it were, whereas I can go out and just talk
Bush: You see, the ... thing is what they need to do is to get Syria, to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it's over
Blair: [inaudible]
Bush: [inadubile]
Blair: Syria
Bush: Why?
Blair: Because I think this is all part of the same thing
Bush: Yeah.
Blair: What does he think? He thinks if Lebanon turns out fine, if we get a solution in Israel and Palestine, Iraq goes in the right way...
Bush: Yeah, yeah, he is sweet
Blair: He is honey. And that's what the whole thing is about. It's the same with Iraq
Bush: I felt like telling Kofi to call, to get on the phone to Bashad [Bashir Assad](9a and make something happen
Blair: Yeah
Bush: [inaudible]
Blair:
Bush: We are not blaming the Lebanese government
Blair: Is this...? (at this point Blair taps the microphone in front of him and the sound is cut.)

There's darned few moments I like Bush. This is one of them. Imagine, calling the spade a spade.

Today U.S. President George Bush issued his most strongly worded statement yet on the outbreak of hostilities in the Middle East.

Bush: "You see, the ... thing is what they need to do is to get Syria, to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit and it's over".

Lee demands a president that demands the status quo, bangs head against the wall, rushes Maddie Albright for more shuttle diplomacy and repeats the mistakes of the last 40 years and to reinvigorate Oslo!!

The Chimp learns from history!!! He doesn't participate in the international circle jerk!!

Hey Lee, what's your opinion of Israel?

Isn't that what we've been saying all along - if Hezbollah would stop this shit Israel wouldn't have to retaliate?

It scared the sh** out of the lefties. Just last week they were saying the 'cowboy' was gone. Oh well, just as all of their predictions have been, they were wrong again. I'd like to see President Bush (aka the Cowboy) walk over and punch the sh** out of Chi-rac, the French coward.

Lee sounds more and more like the cowardly commie leftie that posted on here previously with a different name. Could there have been a name change, along with the sex change?

I think Israel should not stop until the job is done. I'm disappointed with their offer for a cease fire. Momentum and world opinion is in their favor - they should finish the job.

Lee, all the Israelis have done is offer the reasonable terms of ceasefire that the situation requires... Terms any REASONABLE group wouldn't hesitate to comply with...

... Of course, any REASONABLE group wouldn't have started the bullshit with the abductions in the first place, so let that be your guide as to whether or not Hezbollah will capitulate.

What's funny to me is how his "unplugged" statement is vastly different than anything he has said in public thus far.

In this case, I wish he was a straight-shooter. He rarely is, instead being a blue-blood politician until the end.

Jeez - looks like I've stepped into a circle jerk here.

"Just last week they were saying the 'cowboy' was gone. Oh well, just as all of their predictions have been, they were wrong again. I'd like to see President Bush (aka the Cowboy) walk over and punch the sh** out of Chi-rac, the French coward."

Would this be before or after being told to his face that Russia didn't want Iraq style "democracy". Note Bush's non-reply.

Look - it's obvious that Russia is moving backwards and back toward out and out communism (albeit slowly) but the case in point here is that no foreign leaders can take Bush as a person seriously when he has a weaker grasp on the English language than many of the foreign dignitaries with whom he meets!

ON the subject, I'm glad that Bush does grasp the notion that the Lebanese government does not have the capability to keep Hezbollah in check, and that it is Iran and Syria pulling the strings here.

Israel should be careful of taking the disproportionate attacks too far in fear of losing the goodwill of the world. Hezbollah is a problem and should be wiped out, IMO, but two soldiers does not justify destroying a nation's infrastructure and pissing off the world at the same time.

...Of course, any REASONABLE group wouldn't have started the bullshit with the abductions in the first place...

U-u-u-u-uh oh. Somebody said a naughty word.

Listkeeper, I understand that diplomacy suggests that Israel once again offer the terms they offered before launching their attacks -- I just hope that a cease fire, if it happens, is not the end.

The time for talk has come and gone. It's time to Israel to push ahead and eradicate Hezbollah, while the U.S. has surplus troops and assets in the region to assist if this gets totally out of hand. I really, strongly hope that is what happens. I see the situation today as the best chance Israel has to finish the job -- the timing is good. Finish it.

Who are you, and what have you done with the real Lee?

KC and Lee, first Lee. Lee, Bush, at 60 years old could kick your ass. I would shut up if I were you. No I would jump off a bridge if I were you. KC, when is it exactly that Israel enjoyed the benefits of world goodwill? Take your time in finding such.

when is it exactly that Israel enjoyed the benefits of world goodwill?

After Munich/'72?

When they destroyed the USS Liberty?

Before the Raid on Entebbe? [I say "before" because the world, patronizing anti-semites that it mostly consists of, can extend pity to Jews only if the Jews know their place and don't go gettin' uppity, like, acting as if they had a real nation and sovereignty and all].

Would this be before or after being told to his face that Russia didn't want Iraq style "democracy". Note Bush's non-reply.

Yes, we wouldn't want to have open elections where everyone can vote and there are multiple candidates. No, don't want that!

Being on the edge of a civil war has more to do with the insurgency, and those that lost power wanting it back, and little to nothing to do with the selected form of government.

Maybe Bush didn't respond for the same reason we shouldn't respond to trolls here, it just encourages more crap.

Israel should be careful of taking the disproportionate attacks too far in fear of losing the goodwill of the world. Hezbollah is a problem and should be wiped out, IMO, but two soldiers does not justify destroying a nation's infrastructure and pissing off the world at the same time.

The vast majority of the targeting in Lebanon has been very select and has not been to destroy the infrastructure. They have targeted the terrorist infrastructure and there has been collateral damage. That is somewhat expected when you place your infrastructure among civilian facilities for protection.

I doubt that Israel really gives a damn about world opinion. Particularly when the majority of the world stands by and condemns them for responding to terrorists attacks and not condemming the terrorists for their attacks.

At least try to appear balanced, you may come off as a little more genuine.

I understand that even Chirac was considering issuing a strong statement until he learned that Paris was still low on automobiles.

KC - Your suggestion that Israel's only justification for their push into Lebanon is: "... two soldiers does not justify destroying a nation's infrastructure and pissing off the world at the same time." -- that's really short sighted. This was only the straw that broke the camel's back.

The Hezbollah movement has in the last few days revealed itself to be much more seated and powerful than their mere numbers would indicate. Lahoud's recent hugfest with Syria, and the fact that the Lebanese army is unwilling or unable to keep Hezbollah militants in check, makes this the entire country of Lebanon's problem.

Setting the country's infrastructure back into the 19th century would provide some measure of security for the Israeli people. In my opinion Israel has every right have to respond to Hezbollah's call for their annihilation with this well defined "reality check" - and as to the rest of the people of Lebanon -- well, if you sleep with dogs you get fleas. If you want to allow scum Like the Hezzbolah to operate freely in your midsts, be willing to pay the price for that.

This is what fighting terrorism is about - rooting out the cancer directly. You have to expect to lose some healthy tissue is the process. In this case, Lebanon has been too generous a host to this cancer, and I find it difficult to feel pity for them.

DavidB:"At least try to appear balanced, you may come off as a little more genuine."

As I stated: circle jerk. More clearly defined: Israel apologist circle jerk.

re: Iraq democracy and Putin's statement - I pasted this as a reality check to the circle jerkers here who get off on Bush's tough talk when it isn't backed up by anything. See: Iran, North Korea, Russian human rights/media concerns, etc. Putin basically made fun of Bush and Cheney in the course of a month, with no consequenses.

I'd have to disagree with you re: the targeting of infrastructure. Airports, roads, bridges, etc. are called "Infrastructure". While much of the targeting was on known Hezbollah strongholds in southern Beirut, the majority of the bombing, has indeed - and this is admitted by the IDF, been infrastructure.

And Lee: "KC - Your suggestion that Israel's only justification for their push into Lebanon is:... that's really short sighted. This was only the straw that broke the camel's back."

I know plenty about the history between Hezbollah and Israel, and recent events there. Yes, Hezbollah made an incursion into Israeli territory to capture two soldiers in hopes to negotiate for the release of some Lebanese "citizens". And yes, although I'm not going to jizz all over myself about how Israel has the right to exist (which I agree it does), I think that Hezbolla needs to go.

However, with all the money we throw at that area, and all the money available to Israel, why must they resort to extremely unbalanced warfare against the citezenry of Lebanon with the express stated goal of making it too painful for the citizens of Lebanon to tolerate the existence of Hezbollah? Israel is perfectly aware that Lebanon cannot root them out, due in large part to Israel's prolonged war on Lebanon, and the Syrian influence there. The Lebanese government is basically impotent in that regard, and bombing the citizenry back to the stone age is not going to solve the problem.
When Israel allows Hezbollah to gain popular support by building hospitals and schools instead of sending money in there to do the same thing, I feel no pity for them.

With the massive amounts of aid borne of our tax dollars going to Israel, there simply is no longer an excuse.

The right wing neocon hacks, like those so prevalent here have partially hijacked the Israeli national discourse and played into peoples' worst fears. Every minor threat is now a threat to the very existence of Israel. ANY KIND of negotiations are a sign of weakness and will only encourage more of the same.

Israel does face credible threats, and I believe that this particular one is military and not terroristic.

"This is what fighting terrorism is about - rooting out the cancer directly. You have to expect to lose some healthy tissue is the process. In this case, Lebanon has been too generous a host to this cancer, and I find it difficult to feel pity for them."

You fail to grasp the issue. If you think that ther is a military solution to terrorism in this area, you're more deluded than your Commander in Chief.
Tell me when you're finished spouting right wing talking points, and maybe we can have a real discussion on the matter. One beliver in Israel's right to exist to the other.

"The vast majority of the targeting in Lebanon has been very select and has not been to destroy the infrastructure. They have targeted the terrorist infrastructure and there has been collateral damage. That is somewhat expected when you place your infrastructure among civilian facilities for protection."

If I'm not mistaken, you fail to grasp the meaning of "infrastructure".

"KC, when is it exactly that Israel enjoyed the benefits of world goodwill? Take your time in finding such."

See examples above. So let me get this straight, tough guy (and I'd take your bet on Bush any day), the rest of the world HATES Israel blindly and secretly wishes for its destruction, right?

Would that be because the rest of the world is full of raging, ignorant anti-Semites?

I'm interested to hear your opinion on the world's view of Israel.

This is what fighting terrorism is about - rooting out the cancer directly.

I gotta repeat: who are you and what have you done with the real [pucillanimous] Lee?

OF COURSE this is what fighting terrorism is all about. Terrorism exists only through of a handful of necessary ingredient:
1] huge wads of poor, uneducated, disaffected rabble with no prospects and less ability to gain prospects;
2] some "intellectual" [say, the third-world equivalent of a college sophomore with a course of PoliSci under his belt] to whip that rabble into a severely disgrunted mass; and
3] some deep pockets willing to pay that disaffected rabble to fight surreptitious wars on their clandestine behalf.

Without any one of those ingredients, you don't have terrorism. Without masses of the poor and uneducated, you have rich, "educated" liberals spouting off.

Without someone to whip the well-funded rabble into fighting shape, you have the Air America audience. [Or the Rush Limbaugh audience, as you prefer].

Without the money to buy weapons, you have an anrgy mob rushing Da Man with pointy sticks.

[Only #1 gives you any group of squatters anywhere, at any time in history; only #2 gives you the town crackpot you laugh at when he gets another Letter to the Editor published -- or any number of bloggers; only #3 gives you, say, George Soros]

And people don't "get" the War in Iraq? Hussein was one of the primary sources of funding for Hamas. With Hussein gone, Hamas needed to secure alternate financing. ...predominantly Syria and Iran -- both of whom see themselves as some heir-apparent of Arab Primacy. [Yes, Iran is not "Arab", but they see themselves as the creator of the Persian Empire of the New Millenium].

That is indeed exactly how you go about fighting the war on terror: its source. You can piss off billions of the world's poor and uneducated with high-handed foreign policy, but without money, they're only pissed off.

Would that be because the rest of the world is full of raging, ignorant anti-Semites?

Pretty much, yes.

If they are not outright anti-semites, then they are equivocal anti-semites.

"Oh, gee, Israel kills children ... how would I feel if, say, Canuckia invaded my home town and killed my children who were doing nothing more than going to school, playing nintendo and watching Spongebob?"

...except Palestinian children don't do any of those things; Palestinian children are turned into soldier by their parents to wage war that their parents cannot wage against a nation that they cannot defeat. 10 year-olds transport explosive; 15 year-olds wear those explosives until the last moment on earth.

It's easy to mask anti-semitism under the dodge of "they kill children" until you remember that Palestinians have no children; they have war-making midgets.

"1] huge wads of poor, uneducated, disaffected rabble with no prospects and less ability to gain prospects;
2] some "intellectual" [say, the third-world equivalent of a college sophomore with a course of PoliSci under his belt] to whip that rabble into a severely disgrunted mass; and
3] some deep pockets willing to pay that disaffected rabble to fight surreptitious wars on their clandestine behalf."

That's a perfect description in my book too. However,I'd ask that replace "intellectual" with "religious fanatic intellectual".

"Without any one of those ingredients, you don't have terrorism. Without masses of the poor and uneducated, you have rich, "educated" liberals spouting off."

Can't think of too many "liberals" who I'd classify as religious extremists. Too bad I can't say the same for "conservatives".

You see, you grasp the basic concepts. And I mad e mention of the money issue as well. IF Israel and the US would just spend as much money on PR in these countries (that includes building schools, etc.) as we do on the military machine which is ill suited to fight assymmetric wars against imbedded elements of a poor, disenfranchised population (note right-nutters: I didn't say dismantle the military or stop spending on it), they'd have a much easier time of winning the "war on terrorism".

"And people don't "get" the War in Iraq? Hussein was one of the primary sources of funding for Hamas. With Hussein gone, Hamas needed to secure alternate financing. ...predominantly Syria and Iran -- both of whom see themselves as some heir-apparent of Arab Primacy. [Yes, Iran is not "Arab", but they see themselves as the creator of the Persian Empire of the New Millenium]."

Don't remember his support for terrorism being one of our concerns when we were supplying him with weapons and weaponizable biological weapons during the Iran Iraq war.

How often was his support for Hamas cited as a main reason for the current Iraq war?