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Hillary Clinton Calls for Donald Rumsfeld's Resignation

Hillary takes the plunge into anti-war, moonbat extremism and says Donald Rumsfeld should resign:

WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton called Thursday for the resignation of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, hours after excoriating him at a public hearing over what she said was a ``failed policy'' in Iraq.

``I just don't understand why we can't get new leadership that would give us a fighting chance to turn the situation around before it's too late,'' the New York Democrat told the Associated Press. ``I think the president should choose to accept Secretary Rumsfeld's resignation.''

Clinton confronted Rumsfeld directly on Iraq and Afghanistan earlier in the day, and said his answers left her convinced he should go.

``The secretary has lost credibility with the Congress and with the people. It's time for him to step down and be replaced by someone who can develop an effective strategy and communicate it effectively to the American people and to the world.''

For months, Clinton has resisted joining the chorus of other Democrats demanding Rumsfeld's ouster. Her remarks Thursday were the harshest assessment yet from the woman considered her party's early front-runner for the 2008 presidential nomination.

Maybe what the far left is doing to Joe Lieberman has her spooked.


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Comments (46)

I call for Sillarys monthly... (Below threshold)
914:

I call for Sillarys monthly nental checkup>>"

Sen. Clinton takes a shot a... (Below threshold)
Brad:

Sen. Clinton takes a shot at the Sec of Defense and he returns fire, mortally wounding her argument. Now she wants to fire HIM because HE has "lost credibility with the congress?"

Whose secretary of defense is he? And why does her opinion of him constitute a majority opinion?

Hillary takes the plunge... (Below threshold)
astigafa:

Hillary takes the plunge into anti-war, moonbat extremism and says Donald Rumsfeld should resign

Read: Hillary takes the plunge into pandering, hacksical opportunism and should forget about the presidency.

Hillary: be advised that, in Dante's construction, panderers will share the eighth circle of hell with pimps and seducers. Don't go there, girl. Unless it means busting George Bush's balls. That would be well worth the ticket.

Hillary jumps the shark. I... (Below threshold)
sissoed:

Hillary jumps the shark. I wonder which Dem will be next.

Get elected, Hill, and you ... (Below threshold)

Get elected, Hill, and you can have the honors

Thank God Hillary is so bra... (Below threshold)
July:

Thank God Hillary is so brave and courageous and such a great true American, we wish there were more like her in the Senate. God Bless You Hillary and keep up the good work making America safe from these criminals in the White House! God Bless YOU!

Hellary is nothing more tha... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Hellary is nothing more than a 'me to' follower of the left wing idiots of the country. She's a bigger liar than Slick Willie was but she gets caught every time she lies, or those that excused Slick's lies because he was mentally ill will not excuse Hellary because she's just plain crazy.

To tell you the truth, if t... (Below threshold)

To tell you the truth, if there's anyone in the higher echelons of the Bush administration that needs to be fired, it's Rumsfeld. Bush should have accepted his resignation after the Abu Ghraib scandal. Seriously. There's got to be someone else better for the job.

Rumsfeld wrote a resignatio... (Below threshold)
George:

Rumsfeld wrote a resignation letter but Bush can't find it. He put it the same place that Hillary put the Rose Law Firm billing records.

Bush should have accepted h... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Bush should have accepted his resignation after the Abu Ghraib scandal.
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And he should promote Dick Durbin to head the Department of Defense since Durbin had the courage to compare the US military to Nazi and Khmer Rouge (or anyone who has the courage to stand up to the US on behalf of the terrorists).

Does anyone remember Robert... (Below threshold)
Red Fog:

Does anyone remember Robert S. McNamara or seen 'The Fog of War'? If you think Rummy is doing it wrong, remember that Kennedy let Bob ramp it up in Vietnam and watch 10s of 1,000s of our boys die and fail. Funny how JFK is only portrayed as a saint. What a joke! Sec. of Defense is probably the worst job in the world, period. Rummy is not going away so buck up and support the troops.

Spooked? Probably a little.... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Spooked? Probably a little. She just pulled out a little moonbat chow to quell the feeding frenzy is all.

Well, now we know why she w... (Below threshold)
Adjoran:

Well, now we know why she was so insistent on a public hearing - it was a carefully scripted and orchestrated play.

Unfortunately, if you saw their exchange on CSPN, Rummy cleaned her clock. She had to say she'd "get back to him" with the specifics of her outrageously false allegations.

Rumsfeld is smart enough not to hold his breath waiting, of course.

Hilarity! is in a hurtin' place. She voted for the war because the public was overwhelmingly for it at the time, and she needed to bulk up both her security and centrist credentials. She couldn't have foreseen the nutroots taking over the party.

This is just proof that she wants the Presidency enough to throw any facade of consistency on the trash heap.

The point about Robert Mcna... (Below threshold)
dr lava:

The point about Robert Mcnamara is that Rumsfield should have learned from history. He should have learned as McNamara admits in the movie that the Vietnam war was built on a totaly false premise. Not only has the war in Iraq been criminally mishandled, waged and promoted but Americas reputation around the world is at such a low that it sabotages our ability to enlist friendly nations into the real fight with OBL.

These kids are dying over in Iraq for nothing. If you think that these kids and their families are being destroyed to keep you safe from the terrorists then you are as out of touch as Rumsfield and by supporting this incompetent administration just as responsible for the horrific losses.

Rumsfeld has been doing a g... (Below threshold)
Weegie:

Rumsfeld has been doing a great job. I just can't seem to understand the complete lack of historical understanding shown by people who whine about all the problems we've had in Iraq.

There is no "War for Dummies" books out there. Because every single conflict is inherently unique, and never happens quite as expected. You go in with a plan that may not even survive until the first contact with the enemy, and then it is a matter of adapting to the constantly changing tactical, strategic, and political situation.

So all the mewling about false premises, or failed policy or having to turn the situation around or [guffaw] losing credibility with the re-election whores of congress [who have lost all credibility with me] is a load of road apples.

Weegie:Nice commen... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

Weegie:

Nice comment. Glad to see someone is thinking.

The left hates Rumsfeld alm... (Below threshold)
Buckeye:

The left hates Rumsfeld almost as much as it hates Bush. Their comments are always based on this hate. God help us if this woman ever becomes president.

dr lava said:"Not on... (Below threshold)

dr lava said:
"Not only has the war in Iraq been criminally mishandled, waged and promoted but Americas reputation around the world is at such a low that it sabotages our ability to enlist friendly nations into the real fight with OBL."

By all means, Dr, let's pull all our troops out of Iraq and put em' right in the middle of Pakastan. And could you list a few "friendly nations" that haven't already surrendered to terrorism? Spain or France? Most of Europe are spineless to stand up against or along side the US in fighting terrorism.

Al-Qeada and OBL have been marginalized and scattered to the winds and yet you imply that some how eliminating OBL will solve all our problems. Did you forget to mention no WMD's in your retorical talking points?

No, it's Isreal that is taking up the war on terrorist agression, and it's the nutcase in Iran you should be concerned about. Not OBL.

I don't "hate" Bush and I d... (Below threshold)
Michael:

I don't "hate" Bush and I don't "hate" Rumsfeld and yet I think they have both been incompetent in the Middle East. Why dissent automatically is responded to by accusations of "hate" and "surrender" and "cut and run" shows me the weakness of your point of view.I am an independant and truly wrestling with all these terrible issues. It doesn't seem to me that knee-jerk jingoism and blind acceptance of information from our government makes any sense at all. I believe our founders intended that we be suspicious of those who govern us.

Ho Hum. Skankary's quest t... (Below threshold)
moseby:

Ho Hum. Skankary's quest to get Rummy to resign will fail like almost every other plan she has ever tried to execute--the exception being Vince Foster's murd--I mean suicide.

And did anyone hear one sug... (Below threshold)

And did anyone hear one suggestion from Hillary/center/left on how to prosecute this GWOT?

Her whole morning diatribe was pure political posturing and pandering to her base, (what ever that is).

Expect the liberal-left to criticize all that's gone wrong in the months to come. But ask them to give one suggestion on how to fight this idiolgy that wants to eliminate us off the face of the planet, and they have no clue.

Hillary is a joke, along with the rest of the radical left that still think appeasment is some sort of answer to dealing with lunitics.

Michael:Perhaps yo... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

Michael:

Perhaps you could enlighten us with how things could have been done better in Iraq. Simply stateing, as Kerry does so often, that things would have been better if Bush and Rumsfeld were not in charge doesn't get it. Sometimes, the left sounds like the kid who wants to be quarterback, but can't seem to get his uniform on without help.

I don't support this war, b... (Below threshold)
Chris:

I don't support this war, but I can certainly appreciate some of the arguments made by those who disagree with me. However, I fail to see how anyone can argue that Rumsfeld has done a good job. The war was not just about our initial invasion. Rumsfeld maneuvered to ensure that Defense, and not State, had responsibility for postwar Iraq. Rumsfeld had an agenda about how the war should be prosecuted, and consistently overruled his mlitary commanders until they produced a plan that fit with his agenda. The fact is that the management of the postwar has been a mess. A corporate officer with Rumsfeld's track record would have been fired long ago.

The constant refrain that wars never go as planned is bullshit, as well. There's a huge difference between having to adjust plans to adapt to events on the battlefield, and having amaster plan that is incredibly flawed. There was a lot of pre-war planning that resulted in the US going into Iraq undermanned, so this constant protrayal of Rumsfeld doing the best he can while making decisions on the fly is just excuse making.

USMC Pilot:... (Below threshold)
Michael:

USMC Pilot:


Well, did we "plan" for the civil war that the JCs now say is what is going on? Can you or anyone else tell me what this administration's exit plan is or even was? That's just two examples. And please don't fall back on silly labels like "the left." I am not on the left. Because I disagree doesn't make me of the left.

"Chris"--sounds like sour g... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

"Chris"--sounds like sour grapes to me-tsk, tsk.

"Her whole morning diatribe... (Below threshold)
moseby:

"Her whole morning diatribe was pure political posturing and pandering to her base, (what ever that is)."
her base is a cesspool of turds and she panders to them by dropping trou and blowing farts at them....

Bush should have accepte... (Below threshold)
Thor-Zone:

Bush should have accepted his resignation after the Abu Ghraib scandal.
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And he should promote Dick Durbin to head the Department of Defense since Durbin had the courage to compare the US military to Nazi and Khmer Rouge (or anyone who has the courage to stand up to the US on behalf of the terrorists).

Posted by: LoveAmerica Immigrant at August 3, 2006 10:36 PM

Wow - talk about your delusional moonbat... Dude are you serious? If you are, you should spend a little time understanding what is happening here. You are being played by Hillary and the MSM.

Do you actually think the US Military is at all like the Nazis or the Khmer Rouge? If they are like these groups why aren't all Iraqis dead? Why isn't the middle east a field of glass.

You should seek some professional help. You gotta get a grip.

dr lava instructs: "The poi... (Below threshold)
Red Fog:

dr lava instructs: "The point about Robert Mcnamara is that Rumsfield should have learned from history. He should have learned as McNamara admits in the movie that the Vietnam war was built on a totaly false premise ... These kids are dying over in Iraq for nothing."

Rummy, I'm sure, has a strong grasp on history and knows his "enemy" because his confers with them every day unlike Vietnam. McNamara was JFK's goat and a tragic figure of epic scale in modern history. McNamara attempts to appease his torchured conscience with the 'false premise' claim. You've got to know more that just McNamara's view point before you can claim Rummy is wrong. The thoroughly debated academic lesson McNamara provides is not to know thy enemy but to not micro manage a war from the White House with a calculator (He was a carpet bombing efficiency special ops officer in WWII who successfully developed a incindiary-bombing strategy to burn Japan into oblivion and then ran FoMoCo very briefly before JFK recruited him for his statistic-based killer instincts.) LBJ removed McNamara once JFK was assisinated to stop the slaughter of our boys. Rummy is certainly not running the Iraqi conflict with a carpet bombing strategy.

Those 3,000 people on 9/11 died for nothing. Our soldiers are dying for the freedoms that allow you to mouth off with standard lib sound bites mired in fiction. Simple Question: Hillary voted to go to war. How do you square that with your anti-war strategy, Dr. Strangelove?

Chris:Th... (Below threshold)
Inquiring:

Chris:

There was a lot of pre-war planning that resulted in the US going into Iraq undermanned, so this constant protrayal of Rumsfeld doing the best he can while making decisions on the fly is just excuse making.

You have no clue what US military forces had to go in with do you? Do you have any idea how crippled many of their systems were because of what Clinton did and how amazingly well they have overcome it? Look them up and then ponder how badly that has effected our fighting forces and their mission in Iraq and Afghanistan (hint a good one to look up is the depot system).

And I love that having "amaster plan that is incredibly flawed" as your basis for not liking Rumsfeld. Yes, because he is a psychic and could foresee every little problem that would come.

Any, let me repeat that bolded for you, any master plan would have been incredibly flawed going into Iraq. The entire region of the Middle East is a hotzone with attitudes as fickle as the wind, and many of the nations and terrorist organizations have support from places like the UN, who will rate genocidal regimes as being better places to live than the US. That leaves anything that the US plans with a huge gray area for the support they can expect.

Considering the amount of opposition that has arisen to bite at his heels every step of the way —much of it right here in the good ol' USA— I think Rumsfeld has done an amazing job, as have our military forces at home and abroad.

Could things have been handled better? Yeah, with hindsight everything can be handled better, but the job that has been done has not been too shabby at all.

Thor-Zone:

I think LoveAmerica Immigrant was going for sarcasm there, or at least all his previous comments on Wizbang lead me to think that.

Inquiring, Thanks f... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Inquiring,
Thanks for chiming in. Forgot to add the sarcasm alert. Anyway, it is good to see the reaction.

By what year do you think s... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

By what year do you think something will not be Clinton's fault? That is the most pathetic, unintelligent, asinine excuse you folks take from your overflowing excuse bag. You wah and wah and wah about Clinton. This from the "party" of personal responsibility. You are laughable folks. Do any of you ever think for yourselves?

Is Bill Kristol an anti-war... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Is Bill Kristol an anti-war, moonbat extremist? How about Generals Riggs, Swannack, Newbold, Eaton, Zinni, Irvine, Riper, and Batiste? How about Senators Warner and Lott, or Representative Shays?

Gee, sounds like we have a lot of moonbat extremists the running the military and in the Republican party.

Inquiring:Yes, I d... (Below threshold)
Chris:

Inquiring:

Yes, I do ahve a clue about what the troops were facing, both from a logistical and enemy response standpoint. If you read my comments again, I'm not denigrating the efforts of the military in the Iraq invasion. A lot of the intial problems and glitches during the invasion were clearly caused by woefully inadequate intelligence that left the military flying blind. However, the master plan I refer to includes the postwar occupation, which Rumsfeld insisted on having responsibility for. The fact is, Rumsfeld came into office with a grand theory about changing military tactics to accomplish our goals with smaller, more technically advanced and lighter forces, as opposed to Powell's overhwelming strngth approach that Rumsfeld openly derided. Rumsfeld repeatedly rejected the invasion plans presented by his generals, insisting that they reduce their troop estimates. And Generals like Tommy Franks, who don't rise to their positions without being politically astute, knew that it was Rummy's way or the highway, so they kept changing their plans not because they thought it was necessary, but because he insisted. They finally had to get to the point that they launched the invasion with many of the necessary troops still in transit, in order to present numbers that appealed to Rumsfeld.

So Rumsfeld appears in front of Senate Armed Services, and does he say "I thought my plan was the best approach, and I take responsibility for its success or failure?" No, he says "I went by my generals' troop estimates." Estimates that he insisted they give him. So not only was his plan a failure, but he's not enough of a man to take responsibility for it. Nice guy you're all supporting. You say the left doesn't support the troops? How about a Defense Secretary who passes the blame for his mistakes onto the subordinates who were following his orders. We've all worked with bosses like that, and they didn't exactly enjoy overwhelming support.

And it's interesting how Bush will take credit for the military's successes, but anything that goes wrong is Clinton's fault. This administration has never taken responsibility for anything that has gone wrong on its watch. Bush's 2004 campaign slogan should have been "It's Not My Fault."

And it's interesting how Bu... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

And it's interesting how Bush will take credit for the military's successes, but anything that goes wrong is Clinton's fault. This administration has never taken responsibility for anything that has gone wrong on its watch. Bush's 2004 campaign slogan should have been "It's Not My Fault."
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I agree with you one big mistake Bush did commit is to treat the left/Dems as serious about national security. They didn't have enough planning for the level of hatred and willingness of the left to undermine America for political power.

Rumsfeld seems to do his job. Noone can make a major transformation of a huge organization like the DOD without stepping on some toes unless you are just a seat warmer. No one who takes on big problem with perfect solution. If you want to find faults in anything you can. The one big mistake is that the Bush adm has treated the left/Clinton/Dems etc... as honorable when it comes to fighting war. These people are not honorable and the leftist PC together with its apologists will harm this war.

BTW, Bush ran for re-election in 2004 on Iraq war. That was his moment of accountability. He didn't hide it. It is good tha the Dems want to make the Iraq war the referendum for this election. And serious people cannot allow these liberal Dems close to the helm of power simply because the Dems would surrender. The Reps at least will fight the terrorists no matter how imperfect their effort. We should send a clear signal to the left/Dem that their terrorist enabling ideology or their unprincipled quest for power is unacceptable. If you think that the Dem is the better alternative, please make your case.


Rumsfeld is an idiot. He i... (Below threshold)
Sean:

Rumsfeld is an idiot. He is the reason Iraq is such a huge mess. Why blame him, you say? Because he's the egomaniac who went through General after General until he found one willing to say we could win this war with half the troops really required. What century are we in? And the resopnse of the Administration to the aftermath of "major combat operations" was "we never expected that"? What a load of crap.

I voted for Bush, twice, I'm a solid conservative. Rummy served our country well in the past, but he screwed the pooch big time on this little fiasco. I consider anybody willing to make excuses for his blatant short-sightedness and overall screw-ups nothing more than a shrill ideologue no beter than Hillary's rabid supporters. The only reason this war hasn't completely gone down the drain is because we have the most amazing fighting force, comprised of the most talented and dedicated young men and women, this world has ever seen.

And they deserve a hell of a lot better than what Rumsfeld has and is doing to them.

If Rumsfeld didn't look so ... (Below threshold)
Dave:

If Rumsfeld didn't look so menacing, and I'm talking nothing more than the face he was born with, this wouldn't be an issue. There's a reason these emotional would replace Rumsfeld with babyfaced McCain or Lieberman.

Assigning blame for Iraq logically follows assigning praise for Afghanistan. If you don't praise Rumsfeld, then who's left? You'll just have to hail Bush the conquering hero. Any chance of that?

Sean, Drumsfeld got... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Sean,
Drumsfeld got Tommy Frank to win the Iraq war with Turkey denying one central front from the NOrth while avoiding most of the predicted catastrophe (refugee, famine, blood-bath, 10,000 troops killed, chemical contamination ...). Was it a huge success? We had a series of successful elections, Iraqui army is picking up more combat responsibilities now.
I think Rumsfeld should stay. This is huge for our PR effort. Just like all the carpings for ceasefire in Lebanon right now, the call for getting rid of Rumsfeld is mostly a PR effort now. Bush should let Is finish the job and Rumsfeld continue with his effort of cleaning up the PC liberal residuals at the DOD.

If you care about the military, you should make sure that people like Hillary is as far from the lever of power as possible. Drumsfeld is the wrong guy to pick on at this point except you are a liberal Dem who has been calling for his head since 2003. The troop seems to be supportive of Bush and Drumsfeld so far. They voted for Bush in 2004 in large number even though they knew full well that Bush would retain Drumsfelf. The military is demoralized if the liberal dems are in power again. IF you are honest, you know what to do, Sean.

BTW, The terrorist... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

BTW,
The terrorists would love to see Bush catipulate and get rid of Drumsfeld as much as they want Bush to call a ceasefire in Lebanon now. Again, for the PR purpose alone, Drumsfeld should stay.

PBunyon.Clever, bu... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

PBunyon.

Clever, but off the mark. You wingnut crazies would blame Clinton, spend $50 million to impeach him (tho he is retired) and then hire Haliburton for 2 billion or so to repair it.

Clever, but off the mark. Y... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Clever, but off the mark. You wingnut crazies would blame Clinton, spend $50 million to impeach him (tho he is retired) and then hire Haliburton for 2 billion or so to repair it.
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Hugh,
At least we are not making excuses for these depraved terrorists as many of your fellow travelers on the left. Hillary, Kerry, Durbin, Kennedy as other liberals aand Dems would have the strongest language for Bush and Drumsfeld (and even the US military). Yet they don't seen the same passion and even rhetoric when it comes to the most depraved terrorists. It is a sick party and movement at the very least.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/744436.html

How is she qualified to mak... (Below threshold)
jerseychris:

How is she qualified to make this comment? Was Hillary in the navy with Murtha and Kerry?

And 2 more kids died today ... (Below threshold)
dr lava:

And 2 more kids died today and some more will die tomorrow and next week and on and on.

I was listening to Rush today and he was talking about how the left doesn't get it. How we are in a fight like WW2. How the left doesn't take it seriously.

Oh we take it VERY seriously. We are up against a foe greater than what we faced 70 years ago. We need all of our friends all over the world for this fight. Unfortunately we are not in this fight with men like Eisenhower and Churchill and FDR at the lead but with absolutely inept criminally incompetent fools.

We need our friends overseas to band together into a force that will seek out and neutralize the terrorist threats. Unfortunately they are shaking their heads in bewilderment at what the hell has happened to America. How hubris and disregard for the opinions of our allies have lead us to this low low place.

We need our friends oversea... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

We need our friends overseas to band together into a force that will seek out and neutralize the terrorist threats.
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Do you mean the French, whose envoy proclaimed that Iran is a stabilizing force in the ME? Our real friends are with us (Australia, Japan, Britain ...)?

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Unfortunately we are not in this fight with men like Eisenhower and Churchill and FDR at the lead but with absolutely inept criminally incompetent fools.
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You forget one thing that we didn't have to fight the media war against our own American press. I wonder what FDR and Churchill would think of the modern media and Dem party. Zell Miller, an FDR dem, tells us already.

Thanks for pointing out how absolutely inept and criminally incompetent the liberals/Dems have become.

Only Hillary would call a l... (Below threshold)
wilky:

Only Hillary would call a long hard slog, rosey optimism

Only Hillary would call ... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Only Hillary would call a long hard slog, rosey optimism

I always thought she referred to her long hard slog as "Bill" (or "you fuckin' asshole", depending on the day...)

Hilary is a criminal and... (Below threshold)
Rob LA Ca.:

Hilary is a criminal and a Commyn PIG. She wants so bad to sit in BJ's old chair and have him on his knees. Stupid B*&^h , why didn't she just steeal the chair and desk along with the other $500,000.00 wworth of items. Corrupt fraudulent criminals and the Democrats love them. Speaks volumes about Democrats.




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