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A "Moderate" Threat?

It didn't receive much press, but we still found it illuminating. As The New York Times reported, a meeting of Muslim minds took place in Kuala Lampur on Thursday, and it offers an interesting view of the mindset of purportedly "moderate" Muslim leaders.

The article begins:

Muslim leaders meeting for the first time since the start of the crisis in Lebanon warned Thursday that the fighting could spawn further acts of terrorism, while Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, suggested that the solution to the crisis was to eliminate Israel.

Well, that's one way to end the trouble, we suppose. And, though it's surely the course that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Osama bin Laden, and Michael Scheuer favor, it'll mean the murder of millions of Jews. Whilst that's nothing to trouble these great minds, we're steadfastly opposed to it.

But insanity dribbling from the mouth of Mr. Ahmadinejad isn't exactly news. More intriguing is the following:

"This war must stop or it will radicalize the Muslim world, even those of us who are moderate today," news agencies quoted Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, the president of Indonesia, as saying at an emergency meeting of the Organization of the Islamic Conference outside Kuala Lampur, Malaysia.

"From there, it will be just one step away to that ultimate nightmare: a clash of civilizations," he said.

Okay, so this self-avowed Muslim "moderate" is calling for an immediate ceasefire--or else. In fact, although he's presenting his words as sage advice, he's really offering a thinly veiled threat.

What struck us as particularly interesting is the way in which Yudhoyono proffers a view that entirely denies Muslims any and all agency. To the President of Indonesia, the West acts, Muslims merely react. Thus Israel must be stopped, even though it was provoked by Iranian-backed Hebollah in the first place. If not, benighted Muslims will have no choice but to become "radicalized," and perpetrate even more acts of terrorism.

Why doesn't this work the other way around? Why not demand the destruction of Hamas, Hezbollah, and al-Qaeda, or Western "moderates" will become "radicalized" and demand a more hands-on approach to the Middle East? Why can Westerners control their actions, and Muslims merely offer irrational, uncontrollable reactions?

You'd think that the prime minister of Indonesia would have a better opinion of his people.

(Note: The crack young staff normally "weblog" over at "The Hatemonger's Quarterly," where they are currently reading an advanced copy of Michael Scheuer's heartfelt biography of Neville Chamberlain.)


Comments (12)

“This war must stop or it w... (Below threshold)

“This war must stop or it will radicalize the Muslim world, even those of us who are moderate today.”

What a load of BS! Does anyone seriously think that if Israel stopped defending themselves that their enemies would just disappear? And to think that this idiot in Indonesia, thousands of miles from Israel, says that Muslims EVERYWHERE would be radicalized! It's just another way of attempting to extort the appeasers among us into leaving Muslim terrorists ANYWHERE in the world alone. If the terrorists had the "honor" they so desperately seek, they would make direct challenges with armies in uniforms that didn't hide behind the women and children they so gladly sacrifice.

End of rant, for now.

"Why....can Muslims merely ... (Below threshold)
BorgQueen:

"Why....can Muslims merely offer irrational, uncontrollable reactions?" Perhaps it's as ingrained as the reason muslim women must wear the burqa....because muslim men can't control themselves?

Just askin'.

None of the "moderate" Musl... (Below threshold)
Adjoran:

None of the "moderate" Muslim states objected to Iran's call for the destruction of Israel. It's hard to imagine where there is room for "negotiation" in this dispute.

Neither is there much distance between calling for the destruction of Israel and calling for the destruction of the United States. Let none be fooled about that.

Which is why my idea to rel... (Below threshold)
_Jon:

Which is why my idea to relocate Israel is such a smart move.

It is a two step process:
1) Move all of the Cubans to Mexico. With 10% of the Mexican population in the US illegally, there is plenty of rrom - and they already speak Spanish.

2) Move all of the Jews from Israel to Cuba and rename the island "New Israel".

Benefits:
a) Israel would be safe from neighbors, being an island and all.
b) The world would get rid of a communist nation.
c) The Middle East would have no more Jews nearby.
d) Israel would have oil to drill (offshore).
e) The Cubans are already accustomed to communism, so the socialism of Mexico would be a huge improvement to them.
f) The US would get an ally off of our southern coast.
g) We save on shipping costs of all of the military aid we send to Israel. Heck, we wouldn't even need to send them military equipment, would we?
h) We would be able to stop sending Israel and Egypt $50+ billion dollars in aid every year.

The negatives?
i) Native Cubans would be unhappy. But they already hate us - if they believe their leader.
ii) Mexico would probably not like it. But they already hate us.
iii) The rest of the world would call us Imperial, Colonial, Powerhungry, unilateral "cowboys". And they would hate us. Oh wait - they already do.
iv) We might have to move some of the special buildings and historical spiritual sites. But moving a few bricks and some dirt isn't really that tough. Use some white-out on the Torah and the historical accuracy can be "adjusted".

I think it is about time we used our power and supremecy to do something difficult like this.

We have nothing to lose and a lot to gain.

To be honest, I'm not joking.

Only more proof that the ex... (Below threshold)
Ric:

Only more proof that the existence of the "moderate" Muslim is a figment of the imagination.

There aren't any "extremists" or "radicals". Only those that follow Mo, those that don't, and those that have to fake following Mo to survive.

My HQ Yobbos!What sa... (Below threshold)

My HQ Yobbos!
What say we bomb the bloody barstardes?

Why in the world should Isl... (Below threshold)
OLDPUPPYMAX:

Why in the world should Islamists stop trying to intimidate when they've found it works so well! Dhimmis have taken over the West and Islamofascists have taken full advantage.

It seems here the moto shou... (Below threshold)

It seems here the moto should be
Wizbanblog-Ignorance and Propoganda is Power. When will you'll stop your hate propoganda against Islam and also against Christ? Christ was a true example all of you should follow. It seems the goal of certain evil powers and also wizbang is to creat problems between Muslims and others.
I once again urge you to try and spread the truth an d not support such wrong ideas.
What our Muslim leaders are saying is we need to stand up to protect our women and children. Don't we even have the right to do this? How much more do you want to push us against the wall and torture us and steal everything we have?

Uhh did I just read what "m... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Uhh did I just read what "moo slums unity" wrote right?

Yes, we must protect Muslim... (Below threshold)
epador:

Yes, we must protect Muslim women and children from evil men who would strap high explosives and ball bearing to them, or use them as human shields.

You guys have Michael Scheu... (Below threshold)
patrick:

You guys have Michael Scheuer on your minds quite often. Probably because he states the truth concerning the fight against radical Islam.

What you fail to understand is that Mr. Scheuer actually advocates a more forceful policy towards the enemies of the United States. However, you are unable to comprehend this because your views are tilted in favor of Israel, not the United States.

Until you realize that the USA and Israel are two separate nations with differing interests, you will be unable to understand a patriot like Scheuer. America comes first, then we can consider the interests of our esteemed ally Israel.

Israel, the nation that conducts espionage against us, sells our technology to red China, and murdered over thirty of our sailors on the USS Liberty. Great country.

"It seems here the moto sho... (Below threshold)
BigCatGirl:

"It seems here the moto should be
Wizbanblog-Ignorance and Propoganda is Power. When will you'll stop your hate propoganda against Islam and also against Christ? Christ was a true example all of you should follow. It seems the goal of certain evil powers and also wizbang is to creat problems between Muslims and others.
I once again urge you to try and spread the truth an d not support such wrong ideas.
What our Muslim leaders are saying is we need to stand up to protect our women and children. Don't we even have the right to do this? How much more do you want to push us against the wall and torture us and steal everything we have?"

Wizbangblog is an example of blogging at its very best. It does a great job of allowing a voice for the everyday Joe and Mary folks to post comments.

Muslim Unity, if the Muslim leadership cared for your women and children, it would condemm Hezbollah's use of them as "human shields". Using women and children as "human shields" is not protecting them, it is allowing them to get killed. Also I see the non-Muslims who are posting here as standing up for both Christ and the truth. By posting our comments here, we are honoring both.




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