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Conyers' Impeachment Roadmap

Read my post on John Conyers' impeachment roadmap at Wizbang Politics.


Comments (33)

By all means spend $50 mill... (Below threshold)
Larry:

By all means spend $50 million or so investigating a cum stain, a blow-job and an extra-marital affair when it comes to Bill Clinton. But God forbid we should look into things like deception, lying, outing CIA agents, vioations of the Constitution, leading us into an unplanned war, spying on citizens, killing thousands and thousands and thousands of innocents to carry on a war that is full of corruption, makes no sense and was unplanned. Yes, hopefully we'll uncover a modicum of the truth and you wingnuts can go on bleating about cum stains and blow-jobs.

By all means spend $50 mill... (Below threshold)
Larry:

By all means spend $50 million or so investigating a cum stain, a blow-job and an extra-marital affair when it comes to Bill Clinton. But God forbid we should look into things like deception, lying, outing CIA agents, vioations of the Constitution, leading us into an unplanned war, spying on citizens, killing thousands and thousands and thousands of innocents to carry on a war that is full of corruption, makes no sense and was unplanned. Yes, hopefully we'll uncover a modicum of the truth and you wingnuts can go on bleating about cum stains and blow-jobs.

Larry, Larry, Larry,<... (Below threshold)
mesablue:

Larry, Larry, Larry,

Calm down and wipe the spittle away for a second.

Bill Clinton brought the investigations on himself, there was so much going on that it begged to be investigated. Those investigations resulting in dozens of indictments and the conviction of an Arkansas governor, Jim Guy Tucker.

Yup, it was all about Monica, nothing to see here, move along.

Wow. That was certainly no... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

Wow. That was certainly not worth repeating. Not exactly family friendly language there, but I will let it stand.

Here is what many Democrats just can't grasp about the entire Monica thing (and the other scandals for that matter) -- while Bill Clinton was busy letting Monica service him, and carrying on dozens of documented phone sex conversations with him, and meeting with her more frequently than several members of his cabinet, terrorists were plotting. China was getting our missile technology. Those Enron guys were scamming people. We were doing NOTHING toward energy independence. The dot coms were getting ready to bust all over the place. But Bill Clinton was all over that school uniform issue. I guess that is ONE thing that didn't sit like a ticking time bomb waiting to explode in the next administration.

All the other ones did though. The economy began its downward trek before Clinton left office and contiued until Bush was able to pass stimulative tax cuts. We know the 9/11 terrorists' plans were made while Clinton was still in office. We also know that Monica is not the only Clinton scandal. Illegal campaign contributions (envelopes full of cash from Chinese operatives passing hands in the White House), firing career employess and installing cronies (and cousins) in the travel office, intimidating other women like Kathleen Willey who were groped up by the sleazeball in the Oval Office...I could go on all day long. Anyone who thinks all the shenanigans going on in the Clinton White House did not affect the way the government operated are blind. I am just talking about the original actions alone. When you look at how the coverup and investigations affected things it is even worse.

By all means, delude yourself into thinking it was all about sex. Those who were paying attention know better. And those who noticed the names Jason Leopold and Joe Wilson in this Conyers' tinfoil hat exercise know exactly how credible it is too.

measblueThere will... (Below threshold)
Larry:

measblue

There will be spittle from lots of mouths when the truth, as it always does, comes out. You folks like to investigate sex (one wonders why the obsession) and I'd prefer more serious ones....like why we went to war and who lied about what when, and who profited from the deaths of thousands. Of course it was all about Monica when it came to Bill Clinton because they had nothing else. After all, shooting watermelons in the back yard to try and prove he killed Vince Foster says just about all that need to be said about wingnuts.

You folks like to investiga... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

You folks like to investigate sex (one wonders why the obsession) and I'd prefer more serious ones..
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This is either an example of ignorance (naive or willfully) or spin. This is a common spin the left has used to cover up their intellectually and morally bankrupt defense of Bill Clinton. If they were serious, they wouldn't block the investigation into the China funding scandal, Loral transfer of sensitive tech to China etc... Even now they are trying to cover up the Marc Rich pardon, the Jamie Goerlick 's wall that harmed our effort to fight terrorism, and Clinton passing the opportunity to capture Bin Laden.

Even the Lewinsky effort started as a sexual harassament law suit by Paula Jones. The left, despite their claim on women 's rights and so on, was willing to defend an alleged sexual abuser and rapist being the pres of the US while his adm made a mess of national security. The left knew they stood on the wrong side, so all they can do is to spout this spin and lie about "sex".

Is that you again Larry Jo... (Below threshold)

Is that you again Larry Johnson?

I love it when the wingnuts... (Below threshold)
Larry:

I love it when the wingnuts make broad, sweeping and incredibly silly statements like::....they wouldn't block the investigation...." How in the world can any investigation be blocked since you all run the whole government. Maybe you ought to take a basic government course LoveAmerica.

By your logic I assume you agree then that investigations of Rove and Cheyney vus a vis Plame would be ok. Also, investigations into the billions that have gone mising in Iraq as well as the waste in the contracts given Hallibuton? Now, be consistent here folks.

Blame the predecessor, not ... (Below threshold)
DDT:

Blame the predecessor, not the one who's actually in charge..By Lorie's logic, the Clinton administration should blame Bush I for the first attack on the WTC then, right?

Of course not. She wouldn't... (Below threshold)
Larry:

Of course not. She wouldn't have the intellectual honesty to to do that.

I recall that several month... (Below threshold)
Charles Bannerman:

I recall that several months ago Conyers was accused of having his office personnel baby sit, campaigne at taxpayers expense and it seems he was accused of sexism in his relationships with his employees. Ithink there was some question about how contributions were spent also. What ever happend to that kettle of fish?

Conyers is a disgrace to his office and to his constituents.
Chuck

outing CIA agents, vioat... (Below threshold)

outing CIA agents, vioations of the Constitution, leading us into an unplanned war

That's what I like about you libtard, keep repeating that BS until you believe it.

Do we have to go over this again? No CIA agent was outed by this administration. If anything, this agent was outed by her husband. What part of the Constitution was violated? And Clinton wanted to go into Iraq in 1998 as well, but considering he didn't wish to fight this war on terrorism with any gumption, we're cleaning up his mess (no pun intended Monica).

LarryBy your logic I... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Larry
By your logic I assume you agree then that investigations of Rove and Cheyney vus a vis Plame would be ok.
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The investigation has resulted in an addictment against Libby about lying to grand jury, nothing related to the original charge.

Rove has been investigated and he hasn't been indicted yet at least. Joe Wilson has been proven a liar. And you don't seem to worry about his wife using personal influence to send her husband on a trip which he had little expertise on. Again, another example of hypocrisy.

I know that you don't have the truth when you had to resort to personal insults to cover up your spin. So far, you have provent the left has been covering up for liars like Clinton and Wilson.

How in the world can any in... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

How in the world can any investigation be blocked since you all run the whole government.
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The Dems didn't agree to a real investigation into the China fundraising scandal if you know what you are talking about.

Oh lordy, lordy...the ongoi... (Below threshold)
Larry:

Oh lordy, lordy...the ongoing, never-ending Bill Clinton defense for the past miserable six years. The truth of the matter is that every administration from Carter, St Ronnie and on has bungled the war on terror and the mideast mess.

Bush was sound asleep on his watch as was Rice. It's pathetic to hear the purveyors of personal responsibility blame Clinton for everything gone wrong in the universe.cIt's old. it's tiresome and it's so patently dishonest it's silly.

Blame the predecessor, not ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Blame the predecessor, not the one who's actually in charge..By Lorie's logic, the Clinton administration should blame Bush I for the first attack on the WTC then, right?
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If Bush I had a previous attack on WTC, an attack against the US embassy, the Cole attack ... and he did nothing about it, then he should be blamed big time. Now hope that you understand this point after a more detailed explanation.

Bush was sound asleep on hi... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Bush was sound asleep on his watch as was Rice. It's pathetic to hear the purveyors of personal responsibility blame Clinton for everything gone wrong in the universe.cIt's old. it's tiresome and it's so patently dishonest it's silly.
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More dishonesty displayed here. Bush admistration was barely 9 months in office after a long delay by the disgraceful drag by Al Gore and all the roadblocks of forming the new administration. You claimed to want the facts. When the facts pointed out to you, you claim. So this is another example of dishonesty. You are only interested in blaming Bush for everything!

The trouble with you wingnu... (Below threshold)
Larry:

The trouble with you wingnuts is that you're boring, not very smart, xenophobic, racist, way too into cum stains and blow-jobs. (Intersting how homophobic you are too...what with the fascination about blow-jobs). You don't wear sandals and, worse, don't drink lattes. I'm done baiting you fools.You're too damn easy and too predictable. P.S. LoveAmerica get a name. Anyone who has to wear it on his sleeve is worrisome.

The trouble with you wingnu... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

The trouble with you wingnuts is that you're boring, not very smart, xenophobic, racist, way too into cum stains and blow-jobs. (Intersting how homophobic you are too...what with the fascination about blow-jobs). You don't wear sandals and, worse, don't drink lattes. I'm done baiting you fools.You're too damn easy and too predictable. P.S. LoveAmerica get a name. Anyone who has to wear it on his sleeve is worrisome.
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Thanks again for another example of dishonesty. We know how intellectually and morallly bankrupt the left is by your kind of posts. WHen you run out of args, you resort to personal insults. Thanks for confirming my observation about the modern left.

(Intersting how homophob... (Below threshold)

(Intersting how homophobic you are too...what with the fascination about blow-jobs)

Homophobic? I think you need one, regardless of the gender.

Uhhh anyone seen old "pucke... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

Uhhh anyone seen old "pucker puss" (lee lee) lately? Hmmm. Couldn't be that he changed his name to "Larry" could it. But then again all moonbats sound alike as they all went to to same sound bite school.

Bickering with Larry is lik... (Below threshold)
bobdog:

Bickering with Larry is like trying to teach pigs to sing. As the old saying goes, never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

You would do better reasoning with Hezbollah. Neither one of them are interested in what you say, and reason has nothing to do with it.

People like larry are idiot... (Below threshold)
Zelsdorf Ragshaft III:

People like larry are idiots. He comes to this site spouting his BS, and when the response is quick and factual, refuting what lies they proffer, they invarably resort to the personal attack. Lori layed out just what the Clinton adminstation was all about. We still have not paid all the bills Clinton will have cost us. I truly wish he could feel our pain. Larry, shut up, you are an idiot.

"Bickering with Larry is li... (Below threshold)
Mike G in Corvallis:

"Bickering with Larry is like trying to teach pigs to sing. As the old saying goes, never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig."

No, there's a better pig-related proverb that applies to Larry:

Never try to mud-wrestle a pig. You end up covered with muck, and the pig enjoys it.

Conyers and his contemporar... (Below threshold)
jainphx:

Conyers and his contemporaries was the main reason I moved from Detroit to the suburbs.Then when their tenticles reached into the suburbs,moved from the state.Here in Arizona where people are sane I've never looked back,at least not with regret.You left tards can keep you Johns their all nuts.

Larry:Yes, hope... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Larry:

Yes, hopefully we'll uncover a modicum of the truth and you wingnuts can go on bleating about [redacted] stains and [redacted]-jobs.

The trouble with you wingnuts is that you're boring, not very smart, xenophobic, racist, way too into [redacted] stains and [redacted]-jobs... (Intersting how homophobic you are too...what with the fascination about [redacted]-jobs).


Boy you really seem to be facinated with [redacted]-jobs and [redacted] stains, almost bordering on obsession there, Lar.

But then, when your flagrently display your argumentem ad hominem, I guess that's the only thing we are going to get out of you.

But then, when your flag... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

But then, when your flagrently

"Your" should be "you"

Zelsdorf, re Larry:<... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Zelsdorf, re Larry:
He comes to this site spouting his BS

More like spouting his BJs.

Oy! Flagrantly... (Below threshold)
James Cloninger:

Oy! Flagrantly

PIMF!

Good point, bobdog. ... (Below threshold)
Jim Addison:

Good point, bobdog.

It's worth a great laugh to hear these moonbats use a phrase like "intellectual honesty" as if they possessed either.

And it's heartening to know they still haven't gotten over Clinton. I guess it's one of those iconic things, like them still worshipping Ché, huh?

Tis fun indeed to see you g... (Below threshold)
Larry:

Tis fun indeed to see you goofball wingnuts get all worked up. Probably the only exercise you get other than obsessing about other people's blow-jobs. Nie nite.

At this point in time you w... (Below threshold)
dr lava:

At this point in time you would have to be so far into denial and self delusion to believe that this president is anything but a catastrophic disaster.

I know that there are about 25% of people out there that are so desperate to believe in this failed administration that they will follow it right over the cliff. Hope you guys are enjoying the ride.

We know who is in denial ..... (Below threshold)

We know who is in denial ... it is those who criticize this President, who consistently ignore their role in making an inevitible war longer, harder, and more bloody ...

... by continually acting to thwart the direct and decisive use of American force, relying instead on naive diplomacy, where our good faith is expolited by our enemies to become stronger, bolder, and more lethal.

These critics instead maintained the status quo ... of Saddam's mass graves, Palestinian suicide bombers, Iran's terrorist tentacles of misery, and bin Laden's machinations.

Disaster? Read this. The guys who "perpetrated" these blunders are now considered heroes ... because back then the American people understood that war is a messy business, that you should not expect to be completed in one TV season.

"Yippie-ky-ay-a" has brought more REAL peace and freedom to the world, than "Kumbiyah" ... the critics of this war impede real progress.




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