Switch the positions to Romney-Giuliani, and I could go for it. And I'm conservative.

McCain-Lieberman doesn't make any sense to me as a conservative ticket. Lieberman isn't a conservative. I am watching Giuliani very carefully, though. At first, I didn't think he would make a good candidate, but he's growing on me. Our country desperately needs someone who can inspire us (is that the "gravitas" thing?), and he seems to me to be the only one capable of it--at least, at the present time. Maybe someone else will come along who also has that quality. I'm watching the various potential candidates. I did see Giuliani on TV the other night, and he impressed me with the firmness of his views on the war on terror.

PS - I also saw Romney the other day, and I liked what he said about our personal liberties being important, but our lives were more important.

I also have my disagreements with Giuliani, but I'd vote for him before I'd vote for McCain or Gingrich. I cannot support either of the latter for the Presidency.

I also strongly disagree with Guiliani on gay marriage and abortion, and on his reported positions on gun control. Fortunately, none of those issues is really strongly affected by the Executive authority. Marriage issues are primarily a state responsibility, unless courts intrude. Courts have already taken over the abortion issue. Federal gun control policy is set by Congress.

On the single most important issue, the without which no other issue really matters much, is our national security and the war on terror.

On that, Guiliani appears completely trustworthy.

He also has successful administrative experience as Mayor of New York - a city with a higher population than 39 states, including Massachusetts and Virginia.

I too have been doubtful about Giuliani's ability to achieve 'lift-off' with the conservative base.

But if its a choice between Giuliani and 'Billary', it's no choice at all...Giuliani in a heartbeat.

Regardless of personal differences, he's a good man, with the right 'stuff'.

I think the issue I have with a Gulianni/Romney ticket is not the ideals, but the conviction. I'm not saying that Guiliani and Romney don't have ANY convictions, but I'm just worried about how far they'd carry on before giving up. McCain/Lieberman, to me, seems like a more hawkish group which won't buckle under pressure. No offense to Rudy and Mitt, but I see them giving up sooner and John and Joe.

Romney is the real deal. As a former MA resident I was slow to warm to him but he always shows articulate leadership and insight into issues. I could vote for Guliani, Romney, or Allen but not again for McCain, an enemy of free speech.

come on are you guys that desparate that now you are touting a pro gay marriage, pro choice, east coast liberal republican for president? what do you stand for? nothing apparently. you must have a really short bench for president, but everyone knew that already. and romney? please you must be joking if you think he is going anywhere.

Giuliani's experience in the war on terror is rather limited. Helping New York is one thing, but leading a global effort is something completely different.

The Democrats keep on making their tent smaller... I think it's because they've been told, over and over, about how great the Republican message control, how narrow the Republican view, how intolerant, how non-inclusive, how Republicans are all into this lock -step unquestioning obedience and they think that if only they could do that, if only they could speak with one voice, they would win back Congress and the presidency.

So it's not surprising that billy is baffled to find out that a whole lot of us like Giuliani. It doesn't fit the sterotype of brainless lack-wits who really *really* hate gays and absolutely hate women and are generally uber-conservative theocrats.

But that's okay billy. We don't mind.

How did Lieberman get on this ticket? Haven't heard that fancy before.

I am amused that McCain is not conservative enough for some, but somehow Giuliani is! Lost somewhere in this illogical thinking is the inconvenient truth that McCain is actually more conservative than George Bush. Amnesia allows those who remember that McCain pushed campaign finance reform through Congress to somehow forget that George Bush signed that abominable legislation. Meanwhile Bush spends like a drunken sailor and these phony conservatives are silent.

Not conservative enough?

You're making the tremendous mistake that being conservative enough is an issue.

I don't know *any* conservatives who are silent about Bush's spending (or congress either)... what planet do you have to live on not to know about pork-busters?

But (and I know this will be shocking)... Bush isn't running for re-election.

And I think this is really REALLY funny... people who presumably are NOT conservative feel the need to take people to task for not being conservative enough. Why? Wouldn't signs of moderation be something to encourage? Can't stand it when people behave outside the box you put them in?

Also... speaking of living in an echo chamber... I've been hearing Lieberman for president from conservatives even before Bush defeated Kerry. I've been hearing Lieberman from conservatives as VP on the ticket in '08 ever *since* Bush defeated Kerry.

Not that anyone thinks that Lieberman is any sort of conservative at all, but that many conservatives respect him and would be willing to vote for him. He's seen as a way to unite the center.

I realize that the center is a foriegn concept to the people who decided to toss Lieberman from the Democratic party but there you go.

Saterp said "Switch the positions to Romney-Giuliani, and I could go for it. And I'm conservative."

That works better for me too!

Liberal Republicans and senile media-whoring Republicans will lose us this election. We need to nominate 2 solid Conservatives for POTUS and VP. George Allen is the only major candidate with the credentials and appeal to fit the bill for the top slot.