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Kossacks Weigh in on Mike Wallace's Interview

The Jawa Report has a collection of comments made over at the Daily Kos about the Mike Wallace/Mahmoud Ahmadinejad interview and they are shocking. I thought I could no longer be shocked by things that far leftists could come up with, but I was wrong. Here are a few of them:

At least it sounded like he takes time in the day to stay current on things other than his own narrow focused agenda (meaning Bush's way).


As to any statements regarding Israel and the Holocaust - we don't know of anyone who uses inflammatory rhetoric, do we?

Sadly, due to Mike Wallace's condescending behavior and the own demonstrated incompetence and obtuseness of George Bush, I couldn't help thinking that in another time and place, Ahmadinejad with his education and obviously quick wit would have been more than a match for the dolt we have running our country.

And get this one:

Iran has no such history of instability, and is in fact one of the few stable democracies in the mideast - even though it might not be a form you or I might like, as it's closer to the religious democracy right-wing Christians would prefer. When only one antagonistic power in a region has nukes, you can argue that it's an unstable situation, such as when India had them before Pakistan. Right now, only Israel has them in the mideast, and has indicated a willingness to use them. Iran is in a dangerous neighborhood, with 3 antagonistic nuclear powers within striking range of its territory. And the most dangerous, aggressive, hostile nuclear power in the world, the US, has made threats against it.

This one is really unbelievable:

Let's see: the NPT specifically ALLOWS uranium enrichment as well as other technical research. There is no apparent evidence to date, according to the UN, that Iran has a weapons program. You seem to assume there is one because...the Bush administration says there is? What other assumptions have you swallowed from Bush?


In my view, Iran NEEDS nuclear weapons, if only to hold the US at bay - a government which has made clear threats against Iran, has a previous history in overthrowing Iran's democracy, and a recent history in waging unprovoked war against one of Iran's neighbors. Further, Iran is now bordered on two sides by the military forces of that same government.

Iran's lunatic leader, who routinely threatens the United States and Israel, simply utters a few cliche liberal talking points during his interview and the Kossacks fall all over themselves to support him.

Bret Stephens in the Wall Street Journal has a comprehensive list of questions that Mike Wallace, if he really wanted to do a probing interview with Ahmadinejad, should have asked him. They are all really good. But this one caught my attention:

Q: Another of Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi's disciples, Mohsen Ghorouian, has said it is "only natural" for Iran to have nuclear weapons as a "countermeasure" to the U.S. and Israel. And one of your regime's hardliners, Hojjat-ol-Islam Baqer Kharraz, was recently quoted as saying that "we are able to produce atomic bombs and we will do that." Do you disavow these statements, given your repeated insistence that Iran's nuclear programs are for peaceful purposes only? A:

Compare Ghurouian's statement defending Iran's nuclear program to the last Kossack statement quoted above. Yes, Kossacks are parroting Iranian Mullah talking points to defend Iran's nuclear program. The far leftists can't get any more anti-American than that.


Comments (63)

The label "Leftist" shouldn... (Below threshold)
Sue:

The label "Leftist" shouldn't apply anymore. These people (Wallace and his ilk) passed Left a long time ago, we just didn't want to acknowledge it. They are way out now in FASCIST, pure and simple. This is what they are, have always been and will always continue to be. Let's get real.

Yeah. You know, th... (Below threshold)
astigafa:

Yeah.

You know, the Iraninans have a point of view, and if the object of the exercise is to get them to behave in a way that you approve, maybe you should take their worldview into account, stop dealing with them as if they've internalized cowboy logic and no know when to "fight, f--- or draw your gun" American style.

Oh, wait, sorry there: I was talking sense. Let's see, whizBang -- Ah...get yer deer yet? That Lucky Dog thing should go, WTF, NASCAR? ...but don't question their patriotism!

I just love that.

Iran has no such history... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Iran has no such history of instability, and is in fact one of the few stable democracies in the mideast...

I nearly fell out of my chair reading that!

Holy Mary Mother of God, the incoherence of thought and logic and the unwillingness to acknowledge proven history on the part of the Western Left is immeasurable and mind-boggling in its lunacy. With astigafa roundly making my point...

Unlike the childish name-ca... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Unlike the childish name-calling that typifies the conservative commenters at Whizbang, the Kos comments quoted above actually show more thought and analysis than what you guys are used to. No wonder you're offended. lol!

Comment 1 - "At least it sounded like he takes time in the day ..." is a slap at Bush's failure to stay current - remember his amazement when he saw a grocery scanner at the checkout? And wasn't there some confusion on Bush's part regarding the religions practiced in Iraq?

I supect the commenter is correct - that Bush is not a match in intellect and intelligence to Ahmadinejad. That doesn't mean Ahmadinejad is better person of course - but leave it to conservatives to not understand that either... Politics has to be reduced down to the Friday Night High School Football "Us versus Them" mentality for it to "fly" in the red states...

re: comment # 2 "Iran has no such history of instability,..." - He presents a valid argument - valid enough that you won't find any commenters here disagreeing with it, I suspect. Sure, there will be name calling, but no reasoned arguments...

then Kim says "Iran's lunatic leader, who routinely threatens the United States and Israel, simply utters a few cliche liberal talking points during his interview and the Kossacks fall all over themselves to support him."

I don't see anyone "supporting" Iran's lunatic leader with these comments - it's just adults discussing the topics of the day... again, - just something this blog isn't used to seeing...

Kim concludes: "Yes, Kossacks are parroting Iranian Mullah talking points to defend Iran's nuclear program. The far leftists can't get any more anti-American than that."

Parrotting? Where? You didn't show us that. Methinks the only parroting in these parts is the line of crap conservatives have to use to stay in the game.

Sadly, this post shows it is a losing cause, but keep trying. Maybe you'll get a linkback from Kos' web site.

"Unlike the childish nam... (Below threshold)

"Unlike the childish name-calling that typifies the conservative commenters at Whizbang..."

Lee, every time I think you've reached a new low in clueleesness, you find a new way to prove your idiocy. You denounce childish name-calling by people you call childish names in the very same sentence.

Mr. Pot, meet Ms. Kettle.

J.

Lee, You can polish ... (Below threshold)
DoninFla:

Lee,
You can polish that turd, you call your liberal, intellectual, political philosophy, all you want, but in the end it's still just a shinny turd.

Comment #2: "Iran has no... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Comment #2: "Iran has no such history of instability...

Oh, so the Islamic Revolution of 1979 that overthrew the Shah and created a theocracy denying rights to women and children, and that demanding an overthrow of Saddam's regime (not altogether bad idea, but they were our enemy first and foremost) and putting bounties on the heads of people like Salman Rushdie for his "Satanic Verses" book is some how "stable."? On who's planet? I'd laugh if it weren't so tragic.

"remember his amazement whe... (Below threshold)
tyree:

"remember his amazement when he saw a grocery scanner at the checkout?"

Lee, if I remember correctly, that was President Bush's father. I for one am happpy that our President didn't take the time out to shop for his own groceries.

As far a the Kos crowds search for balance goes, that was the same rational the American spies for the USSR used when turning over our secrets to the communists. Can we question their patriotism now?

Lee"is a slap at... (Below threshold)
Marc:

Lee
"is a slap at Bush's failure to stay current - remember his amazement when he saw a grocery scanner at the checkout?"

Kind of like Teresa Kerry not having a clue what the menu at Wendy's was about.]

Lee: "re: comment # 2 "Iran has no such history of instability,..." - He presents a valid argument - valid enough that you won't find any commenters here disagreeing with it,"

What's to argue, read it yourself, coup after coup. "Uprising" after "uprising" protests on top of protests with the only "stability" throughoput it's history being thru dicatorships very much like the one in power since 1979.

Lee I don't see anyone "supporting" Iran's lunatic leader with these comments -

If you can't see a similar thought process in Ghorouian's statement that it is "only natural" for Iran to have nuclear weapons as a "countermeasure" to the U.S. and Israel and the Kos Kiddies saying "Iran NEEDS nuclear weapons, if only to hold the US at bay" your either freakin blind or suffer from a terminal case of BDS.

Not to mention sharing the Kiddies adoration of Ahmadinejad.

"remember his amazement whe... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

"remember his amazement when he saw a grocery scanner at the checkout?"

What a shame that story turned out to be utterly false, isn't it?

unbelievable some people still believe this garbage

Jay said: "Lee, every ti... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Jay said: "Lee, every time I think you've reached a new low in clueleesness, you find a new way to prove your idiocy. You denounce childish name-calling by people you call childish names in the very same sentence."

Hmmm. Here is the sentence in question: "Unlike the childish name-calling that typifies the conservative commenters at Whizbang, the Kos comments quoted above actually show more thought and analysis than what you guys are used to. No wonder you're offended. lol!"

Now you're starting to worry me, Jay, because you are seeing things that aren't there. Where have I resorted to using "childish names in the very same sentence." Is it time for new glasses? And let's see - you managed to use "cluelessness" and "idocy" - proving my point. Thanks, Jay, please feel free to "let me have it" as often as you wish - lol!

As to Bush's stupidity - if I got it wrong I apologize, but the guy's lack of grey mater is legendary.

Lee is so simple yet so sur... (Below threshold)
Tony:

Lee is so simple yet so sure of his breadth of wit that he's a joke. Lee sounds just like the callers on C-SPAN after the unedited interview aired. So many people were awed by Ahmadinejad's eloquence with words, and how rational he sounded. A few pointed out how this made him smarter, therefore more correct, and also better, than Bush. It took the very last caller to point out that the interview sucked because Ahmadinejad didn't substantially answer any tough questions. But to everyone else, he said things real well, therefore we should not look at the lack of a substantive answer. Just like Lee.

OK, Lee, I'll dumb it down ... (Below threshold)

OK, Lee, I'll dumb it down and put it in language you might understand:

The name of this site is WIZBANG, not WHIZBANG. There is NO "H" in the name. It is absolutely INCONCEIVABLE that even clueLEEs you could continually make the same mistake over and over and over again, by accident. It has to be deliberate, and an insult.

So, which is it, Lee? Are you just that clueless and stupid and illiterate, or are you chagrined that you've been called out on your hypocrisy?

You're either an idiot or a hypocrite, Lee -- choose your poison.

J.

Lee pulled the idiot card a... (Below threshold)
Tony:

Lee pulled the idiot card as I was typing my post.

excelsior!

If only people like Jimmy C... (Below threshold)

If only people like Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were still in charge everything would be so wonderful in the world.

"You're either an idiot or ... (Below threshold)
Old Coot:

"You're either an idiot or a hypocrite, Lee -- choose your poison."

Appears Lee ingested a double-portion of both.

People like Lee remind me o... (Below threshold)
Nahanni:

People like Lee remind me of Harold Lauder from the Steven King masterpiece "The Stand".

Say what you will but Lee d... (Below threshold)
Justrand:

Say what you will but Lee did his job...and did it well.

The subject of this thread was SUPPOSED to be the insanity of Ahmadinejad, and the matching insanity of Mike Wallace and DailyKOS.

Instead, Lee got folks discussing BUSH!!

The Left (Wallace and Lee included) would LOVE to get us all focused on Bush, and ignore Ahmadinejad. Even if Ahmadinejad succeeds in killing SIX MILLION Jews in Israel by nuking them...the Left would STILL ignore Ahmadinejad and bash Bush.

They...are...insane!

I feel Mike Wallace needed... (Below threshold)

I feel Mike Wallace needed to ask much harder questions, talk about a nerf toss of an interview.
Raymond B
www.voteswagon.com

remember his amaze... (Below threshold)
remember his amazement when he saw a grocery scanner at the checkout?

Urban legend about Bush's father. Snopes is your friend.

Ignore Lee; he can't argue ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Ignore Lee; he can't argue reasonably, and certainly doesn't know any, any history about Iran.

What a joke.

Forgetting Lee's lack of intellect for a sec, I think we are on a fast track to a showdown with Ackonmydinnerjacket and his whirling dervishes. The sooner we get our minds around that fact, the better.

The problem is that we are dealing with someone so delusional and evil, there is no bargaining with him. It is scary. Having Mike Wallace fawn all over the guy is shocking when you think about it. For God's sake, Wallace is a Jew!

Mike Wallace, Dan Rather,Pe... (Below threshold)
jainphx:

Mike Wallace, Dan Rather,Peter Arnet,Peter Jennings,etc,have done more to undermine this country than all the amateapots could ever do.This group sold our country down the river.The proff of their productivity is Lee.So called free world is the best he could bring his Communistic mind to utter .I'm just discusted enough to spit.Hopefully i"ll hit Wallace.

Those Kos quotes illustrate... (Below threshold)
Red Fog:

Those Kos quotes illustrate Ahmadinejad manipulation of Wallace. It's easy to herd goats. Fundamental knowledge is not part of a goat herd groupthink.

What this country should have right now is a third party gaining seats ... eliminate primaries two-party lock and watch the Dems to fade into oblivion.

Lee is a simple jackass. His hobbies include public masturbation and crying alone. His favorite book is .... ah .....That's My Poop

Hmmm.I work with a... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

I work with a gay Bush-hating BDS suffering ultra-left liberal that would be to the *left* of DU/Kos.

1. She was bashing Wallace for not being polite.

2. She was bashing Bush in the same breath that she was praising Ahmadinejad for some of this talking points.

3. When I pointed out that Ahmadinejad's government regularly murdered gays for being gays, her response was "I don't live in Iran".

4. When I pointed out that Ahmadinejad was trying to get his brand of Islam to take over America, her response was "That'll never happen".

5. She completely bought Ahmadinejad's spin on the mis-translation of his letter to Bush.

Which frankly makes my brain explode.

...

*shrug* I don't have an explanation. Perhaps these people have been living in such security that they cannot comprehend that there are actually people out there that want to kill them for no other reason that they are themselves.

Frankly I don't know if America can survive this sort of idiot nonsense.

[email protected] Lee<p... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

@ Lee

I hope you realise you look really silly in mistaking GW Bush with GHW Bush.

[email protected] Lee<... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmmm.

@ Lee

I don't see anyone "supporting" Iran's lunatic leader with these comments - it's just adults discussing the topics of the day... again, - just something this blog isn't used to seeing...

Then you didn't bother to actually read the original post.

In my view, Iran NEEDS nuclear weapons, if only to hold the US at bay - a government which has made clear threats against Iran, has a previous history in overthrowing Iran's democracy, and a recent history in waging unprovoked war against one of Iran's neighbors. Further, Iran is now bordered on two sides by the military forces of that same government.

*shrug* you realise that any credibility you ever had is long gone right? That people respond to you out of amusement?

I really don't see why you even bother anymore.

Justrand nails it.... (Below threshold)

Justrand nails it.

Lee, and the others of his ilk, don't intend to "discuss" anything. They merely insult and inflame as they divert the topics away from subjects inconvenient to the moonbat left they represent.

It's not "facsist" propaganda - Goebbels learned the techniques on his visit to the Soviet Union in the early 1930s. It goes back to the left's first big hero, Uncle Joe.

Among the pile of tripe Lee... (Below threshold)

Among the pile of tripe Lee peddles, he says, "the guy's lack of grey mater is legendary."

And it is:

Legend:

An unverified story handed down from earlier times, especially one popularly believed to be historical.
A body or collection of such stories.
A romanticized or popularized myth of modern times.

I would like to call for a ... (Below threshold)
USMC Pilot:

I would like to call for a special election for president in two weeks. The names on the ballot will be Bush and Ahmadinejad, and the voting will be by roll call of the entire nation. This will allow everyone to go on record, as to whom they support. It will be interesting to see just how many "Lees" there are in the country.

I think the easiest and bes... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

I think the easiest and best description for this interview was at Hot Air:

- Wallace and Ahmadinejad laugh, bicker, flirt.

Jay wrote:<blockquote... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Jay wrote:

OK, Lee, I'll dumb it down and put it in language you might understand:

The name of this site is WIZBANG, not WHIZBANG. There is NO "H" in the name. It is absolutely INCONCEIVABLE that even clueLEEs you could continually make the same mistake over and over and over again, by accident. It has to be deliberate, and an insult.

So, which is it, Lee? Are you just that clueless and stupid and illiterate, or are you chagrined that you've been called out on your hypocrisy?

You're either an idiot or a hypocrite, Lee -- choose your poison.

and that's what makes Whizbang the great blog it is, Jay, comments like yours - that whole "explosive" stuff we all love so much.

So let me break down your argument point by point...

hmmmm, checking your comment I see that you don't actually have any points -- you've just engaged in the exact stupid, mindless conservative knee-jerk bashing that I referred to in my original comment above, as did the numerous other uhhh "commenters" that joined in the bashing.


I wrote:

Politics has to be reduced down to the Friday Night High School Football "Us versus Them" mentality for it to "fly" in the red states...

...as you all have so gracefully shown. Thanks for the confirmation. I'm through with this post and will move on...Feel free to bash away without addressing anything of substance.

If only Lee did just write:... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

If only Lee did just write:

_____________________________________________________


_____________________________________________________

It would be more informative than his usual posts.

I feel Mike Wallace need... (Below threshold)
Noumenon:

I feel Mike Wallace needed to ask much harder questions, talk about a nerf toss of an interview.

I thought he asked much tougher questions than he would have asked, say, George Bush. Slanted, even. He pressed Ahmadinejad on the Holocaust, interrupted him to demand more concision and even told him, "That's not the point." while insisting he answer the question that was asked.

As far as the Kos thread, I have no problem with people treating Ahmadinejad with exactly the level of courtesy and respect they would any other foreign leader. Imagine how much flak an Iranian comment thread would take from other Iranians if there were people saying that America might feel just as threatened as Iran and that Bush was no more evil than Iran's own president. In that case you would see their moral equivalence as reasonable, but for the Kossacks you see it as treasonous. I think from a neutral perspective, their neutral perspective would look fine.

Lee, you're my hero.<... (Below threshold)
lz1245:

Lee, you're my hero.

It's a pleasure to watch you calmly and intelligently answer back these morons who can't string together a single thread of "real" facts or depth-based commentary about anything. They're so angry, so uneducated, so brainwashed and completely clueless - and they don't realize how stupid they look patting each other on the back over their own ignorance.

It's unfortunate that apes like these are the only one's left to communicate with on this article thread, but anyone with something smart to respond with wouldn't be on here ranting.

""...remember his amazement... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

""...remember his amazement when he saw a grocery scanner at the checkout?" What a shame that story turned out to be utterly false, isn't it? unbelievable some people still believe this garbage"


You know, JannyMae, if you actually read the full text of the article you linked to, it did, indeed, suggest that Bush was unfamiliar with not only the "new" technology he was shown but the old scanner window as well ("But Mr. Bush seemed more interested in the scanner. Pointing to the scanning window, he asked, "You cross this, this open place?"").

That coming from the description of the videotape.

I'm sure you just read the headline at the top, the claim that it was "False" and then you're brain hurt when you tried to complete reading the first paragraph.

It's this kind of surface assessment of information that makes some on the right sound ridiculous.

Anyone else notice that Wal... (Below threshold)

Anyone else notice that Wallace landed his exclusive interview while at the same time the Iranian regime stepped up its efforts to throw Iranian bloggers in jail?

After reading Hansels comme... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

After reading Hansels comment above I am now convince that the sorry state of the public school system is responsible for the poliferation of the far left socialists in our society.

Talk about lack of reading comprehension. Of course he/she/it decided to use the left's favorite tactic of pulling one small item out of context to make it appear that is supports their point. Other recent popular examples of this are the Downing Street Memo, and the Dulfur Report as when these are taken as a whole they do not at all support the lefts opinions of the war on terror, but the left still trys to use small pieces pulled from the documents to try and support their misguided opinions as if they were actually "facts".

If you did read the whole article, Hnasel, you would have seen that (1) the story was about the President's father, not the President, and (2) there is absolutely nothing to support the false accusation that he was unfamiliar with grocery market skanners.

Even Comrade Lee was able to admit that!

P. Bunyan,Thank yo... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

P. Bunyan,

Thank you for making my point with your completely misread rebuttal to my post.

First, I'm not pulling "one small item" out of context to make some larger point on "the war on terror." My post is not about that. Read it again, moron. All I'm doing is pointing out the sloppy miscommunication of the reader above.

Secondly, I never mentioned that this was about Bush and not his father. Where do you get that. I don't care what Lee said. I'm not defending his gaff. Don't try to read more into this than is actually there.

And, as far as your second not, you're wrong. The videotape transcribed completely suggests he was unfamiliar with the hardware. You must be blind or willfully ignorant not to read that. Do you want me to quote BUSH'S ACTUAL WORDS again?

Do you really try to understand what people post or are you so far up your own ass that all you hear is your own uninformed opinions?

lz1245,I'm glad yo... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

lz1245,

I'm glad you were honest enough to put quotes around the word "real" when you were trying to describe the ill-conceived, uneducated opinions that you on the left accept as fact.

A fact is a fact. They do not require the word "real" except when you are trying to falsely present opinions as facts. Deception, thy name is Democrat.

The bloggers and right-leaning comment-posters on this sight posses the ability to distinguish between fact and opinion—an ability sorely lacking in you Kossacks and DUmmies. Again, I blame the teachers unions and our failing public school systems.

Hansel,I read the ... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Hansel,

I read the whole article. You are clearly misrepresenting it. We could go back and forth over this, but that would be foolish. Anyone who is interested can read the document and see how the story was clearly mis-reported. Anyone who does, and is not an idiot or blinded by BDS, will agree with me:

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/bushscan.htm

(sorry not an expert on html tags)

P. Bunyan,Misrepor... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

P. Bunyan,

Misreported is a proper way to describe it. Maybe the description that he was "amazed" by the scanner is misreported. That he was unfamiliar with these devices - and didn't know how they worked - is clear.

Whether he was "amazed" or not - or whatever the actual wording of it was - is irrelevant. The substance of it is, and always has been, true.

Hansel, you are an idiot, y... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

Hansel, you are an idiot, you are most definitely pulling out on little item, if you weren't then you might want to mention this part,

"The New York Times seemed to be one the only major print medium to take this view of the event, however. Newsweek screened the same tape and reported: "Bush acts curious and polite, but hardly amazed." Michael Duffy of Time magazine called the whole thing "completely insignificant as a news event. It was prosaic, polite talk, and Bush is expert at that. If anything, he was bored." And Bob Graham of NCR, who demonstrated the scanner technology for President Bush, said, ''It's foolish to think the president doesn't know anything about grocery stores. He knew exactly what I was talking about.''

Not too mention this from the author:
"I myself would point out that even technology we've encountered many times before takes on a whole new fascination when we actually get to try it "hands-on" and see how it works."

This is a very important point in the whole thing, he was visiting a freaking museum, he had to act interested for the press. I am sure you have visited a museum, where you were interested in things you saw regardless of how many times you've seen them. I am sure you've watched discovery or A & E and one of their shows on ,I don't know, the history of hot dogs, and thought "thats cool". You know what I think? That Hansel is a dumbass for not knowing how a hot dog works, HA, what an idiot.

Hear that P. Bunyan, FAKE B... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

Hear that P. Bunyan, FAKE BUT ACCURATE!!!!

D-Hoggs, I'm sure you know ... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

D-Hoggs, I'm sure you know how a hot dog works.

Hansel,I know I sa... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Hansel,

I know I said it was foolish to go back and forth on this, but I just needed to post the qoute of the man who was actually there and actually showed the machines to the former President:

"And Bob Graham of NCR, who demonstrated the scanner technology for President Bush, said, ''It's foolish to think the president doesn't know anything about grocery stores. He knew exactly what I was talking about.'"

I'll take Mr. Graham's word over that of the NY Times any day, thank you very much.

Sorry D-Hoggs, I now see th... (Below threshold)
P. Bunyan:

Sorry D-Hoggs, I now see that you already posted that quote.

It's still kinda fun to see the lefties make fools of themselves and prove our points for us.

Sure do, you pull the hot d... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

Sure do, you pull the hot dog off the grill, put the hot dog in the bun, put the ketch...OHH I get it Hansel, good one!! You get called out for being a total idiot so you resort to the VERY popular lefty tactic of calling someone a homo. Great job! I am like so totally jealous of how you lefties can go around calling people fags cause you are so accepting and understanding, and then when a conservative does it, you totally call them fascist gay bashers. You are awesome.

Hey D. Boggs,I was... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

Hey D. Boggs,

I was unaware a homo joke is a "lefty" tactic. I mean, really, if that "is" than what isn't?

Please give me a list of "lefty" tactics so I can increase my toolbox when bantering with fools like you.

Hey D. Boggs,I was... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

Hey D. Boggs,

I was unaware a homo joke is a "lefty" tactic.

I mean, really, if that "is" than what isn't?

Please give me a list of "lefty" tactics so I can increase my toolbox when bantering with fools like you.

...you facist gay basher.</... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

...you facist gay basher.

[email protected] Hansel... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmm.

@ Hansel

1.

D-Hoggs, I'm sure you know how a hot dog works.

What the hell are you talking about?

Ed, he's talking about want... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

Ed, he's talking about wanting someone, anyone, to pay him some attention. It is the typical lefty tactic of using gay and minority jokes yet when someone on the right does it they cry bloody murder, but, you know, they are sensitive and are allowed to.

Its a homo joke, ed. It's s... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

Its a homo joke, ed. It's subtle and stupid. Don't tell me I have to explain it to you.

Hansel, don't kid yourself,... (Below threshold)
D-Hoggs:

Hansel, don't kid yourself, subtlety requires a bit of tact and wit, gay hot dog jokes have neither, nor do you.

Touché.... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

Touché.

I can't believe that I was ... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

I can't believe that I was accused by someone of not reading that Snopes article thoroughly, by someone who obviously didn't read it himself. Pray tell, Hansel, if the implication behind the story is true, then why did Snopes clearly conclude that it was false?

Claim: During a photo opportunity at a 1988 grocers' convention, President George Bush was "amazed" at encountering supermarket scanners for the first time.

Status: False.

Thanks for doing such a bang-up job of proving my point...that you Bush-haters will believe anything.

Final comment on the real topic of the thread. It's time for Wallace to retire. Seriously.

Why any rational person cou... (Below threshold)
S. Harrington:

Why any rational person could state that Iran needs nuclear weapons to counteract the US and Israel is astonishing. Iran is already on record as stating that they should use nuclear weapons to attack Israel, the rationale being that even if Israel responds with a nuclear attack of its own, Iran could survive an attack because of its size, while Israel would be completely destroyed. The moderating influence of mutually assured destruction does not work with the Iranians. So, if you are prepared to let them get a nuclear weapon, you had better be prepared to have them use it.

Perfect example of a hijack... (Below threshold)
tyree:

Perfect example of a hijacked thread.
Getting back on track here...

As far a the Kos crowds search for balance goes, that was the same rational the American spies for the USSR used when turning over our secrets to the communists. The resulting balance of power led to the Cold War, Korea and Vietnam.

Who wants to balance Good with Evil? Why can't we just leave Good in control? Unless, of course, the Kos crowd believes that the Iranians are the Good and they need nuclear weapons to balance our Evil.

Can we question their patriotism now?

When is Ahmahandmeajob gonn... (Below threshold)
virgo1:

When is Ahmahandmeajob gonna get a real job? Like feeding the jackass and washing the burkenstocks?
Oh yeah, that's what He was doing.

JannyMae,You make ... (Below threshold)
Hansel:

JannyMae,

You make MY point. Read the section I quoted - which, being taken from Bush's actual words hold up a great deal better than other's opinions - and it's clear why the news event was recorded that way. What the man's thinking inside his head or other's assessments of whether he knows these machines or not is exactly what it is - their opinions. I'm not saying Bush was familiar with the machinery or not - but his own words suggest that he isn't. That's the fine point and why the event was reported the way it was.

Lastly, as I mentioned earlier, it looks like you only read the first few paragraphs since that is what you are quoting. If you absorbed the entire article, you'd come to the understanding that while the event was reported a certain way, and others who are asked had their opinions of it, nothing concrete in the article exonerates Bush from the words HE ACTUALLY SPOKE.

Personally, If someone told me the sky was red, just because they told me that isn't reason enough for me to believe it. Just because this website claims this "myth" was false, he doesn't actually make his case that Bush really knew this machinery.

There's websites that claim the holocaust is a myth also. What exactly makes Scopes the standard bearer of the truth?

[email protected] Hansel... (Below threshold)
ed:

Hmmmm.

@ Hansel

Its a homo joke, ed. It's subtle and stupid. Don't tell me I have to explain it to you.

Ahhh. Ok.

So. How about them Johnsonville Bratwursts! eh? Get it? Get it? "Johnson"? "Bratwurst"?

Hey I'm pretty good at this. Lessee now.

How about that flagpole ...

It's no surprise that Meek ... (Below threshold)
clak:

It's no surprise that Meek Wallace got his ASS kicked by DinnerJacket. He only got invited over there because he's so old and dimwitted.
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And Lee, when I read your posts using words like "methinks" and read the posts of others talking about grocery store scanners, high school football, shiny turds, homos, etc. it just makes me laugh. I mean really, the entire thread here is like a SNL skit. You probably think Bush is less intelligent than Ahmedinijad because of his accent, his smirk, his swagger, his rural lexicon and humor. It's a common mistake that liberals make; "surely one can't be highly intelligent and have an accent like that." Do not be fooled. He's probably about 40 points higher than you. It's just so typical of liberals, especially those at university. When they find out they might be above average, suddenly they're geniuses. The truth: you're too smart by half.

Mike Wallace is indeed an i... (Below threshold)
Jeremy M:

Mike Wallace is indeed an idiot. Presented with plenty of opportunity to ensnare Ahmadinejad he stupidly completely misses his cue over and over. When Ahmadinejad gace his reply to that first question, for example, about what he thought of suicide bombers, Wallace doesn’t think to ask Ahmadinejad about the innocent victims of such attacks. He fails to point out to Ahmadinejad that a suicide bombing is an unparalelled act of selfishness, with only the aim of glorifying somehow the perpectrator.
He is a complete idiot, inept and without the necessary intellect to handle a man like Ahmadinejad.
In the hands of an intelligent interviewer, Ahmadinejad could have been revealed to millions of poeple in his true light.
Wallace’s interview, its tone, it’s infantile questions are just the sort of trash that appeals to the lowest orders of American viewers - those who have never bothered to travel outside this island to educate themselves about some of the rest of the world. They are in a position to eat up every word of this infantile type of discourse, having no power to discerne for themselves the truth - after all, America has had a steady diet of garbage news programs all its life. CNN (comic news network), CBS and Fox are all stations serving up a diet of absolute pablum! - and Wallace is too old, stupid and ill-equipped to handle a single further interview with anyone of note.




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