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Katrina -- Almost One Year Later

In my Townhall column today I take a look at how the media and some politicians have fared in the year since Katrina hit.

In a little over a week, August 29 to be exact, the one year anniversary of Hurricane Katrina will be observed. Expect some pretty extensive coverage on the cable channels, especially on a certain gray-haired CNN reporters' program, about all the lessons learned over the past year. There should be plenty of discussion about what Katrina revealed about race and poverty in America and how it exposed weaknesses in the government. What I would like, but don't expect to see, however, are exposes of the failures in reporting the story and some explanations of how such failures could occur. It would also be nice to hear some corrections to the flawed record so many Americans have come to believe as fact.
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While I don't expect journalists to point out all the mistakes they made, it will be interesting to see whether or not the politicians commenting on the anniversary will make any effort to correct the record where gross misperceptions remain. More interesting will be to observe whether any of those politicians still cite incorrect information from those original wrong reports one year later.

The tone and choice of topics during coverage of the anniversary could have some significant political ramifications as the story will play a part in setting a stage for upcoming congressional elections. The story could possibly have even bigger effects felt in 2008. In anticipation of the upcoming anniversary, many politicians have made pilgrimages to the site of the most devastating storm in modern history. Not surprisingly, some of those politicians are often cited presidential hopefuls.



Comments (42)

Dear sister,My pra... (Below threshold)

Dear sister,

My prayers will go out for the people who were victims of the natural disaster.
You forget that all media wants to promote is things with which they benefit not the true human feelings and emotions.

Let us pray together that such things don't happen again for anybody on earth.

Aren't we due for a hurrica... (Below threshold)

Aren't we due for a hurricane or two down here? Louisiana needs some rain!

Most of the MSM did an admi... (Below threshold)

Most of the MSM did an admirable job on and just after 9/11. But their collective "reporting" on Katrina was the most shameful pile of crap imaginable. It was worse than what they've done (and not done) concerning Iraq.

If they had any integrity at all they would talk about how their hysteria made the situation worse, instead of trying to pin all of the blame on the politicans and buearucrats.

But I'm not betting on it.

I have to hand ot to you "t... (Below threshold)
Hugh:

I have to hand ot to you "true believers". You have the Bush "doctrine" down pat. Deny, then deny again, and then deny some more. When you can deny no longer just shoot the messanger(s). Too funny. Yes, Anderson Cooper is the one at fault.

I hope they reprint the picture of the pres being presidential and peering down on New Orleans from 26,000 feet up. Didn't any of his handlers tell him: "Mr. President you can't really see anything from this high up."

I hope they reprint the ... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

I hope they reprint the picture of the pres being presidential and peering down on New Orleans from 26,000 feet up. Didn't any of his handlers tell him: "Mr. President you can't really see anything from this high up."

Yes, you can't see flooding from a helicopter. No sir. In fact, unless you're on the ground, you're actually legally blind. Stunning.
-=Mike

More interesting will be... (Below threshold)
Paul:

More interesting will be to observe whether any of those politicians still cite incorrect information from those original wrong reports one year later.

Bank on it.

John Kerry: If I didn't hav... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

John Kerry: If I didn't have the election stolen in 2004, you wouldn't have seen infants --- DEAD infants, mind you --- raped.

Anonymous: But nobody did see that. It didn't happen.

JK: My presence here is so powerful it made it not happen. Vote Kerry!
-=Mike

Biased reporting occurred o... (Below threshold)
doctorj:

Biased reporting occurred on both sides of the political spectrum. The left was acting like the storm and the flood was a conspiracy against the poor (when it fact all classes were deeply hurt) and the right immediately turned to demonizing the people of the Gulf South so it would be OK to desert their fellow Americans. (Pay back is going to be a bitch. Say goodbye to the solid south.) That is the vilest thing of all, that instead of reporting the truly horrific events of life in a disaster zone, the story immediately turned into a political finger pointing game. Americans (black, white, creole, spanish, rich, poor, middle class, rightwing, leftwing, WHATEVER!) were suffering and COPING for months on end and the political fanatics were trying to make political hay out of "who was to blame". Will they fess up? ...of course not. That is the polarized world we live in today. It is disgusting.
And Kevin, don't even try to be funny about wishing hurricanes on us. At least wait until people can get back in structures that won't blow away in a heavy wind.

Why don't people just admit... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

Why don't people just admit they were dumped on by the antique MSM? Things didn't go 100% right in the response, but then Katrena was a little more than anyone expected. Actually the response was the largest in history even if it was delayed by some idiots at the local level. The same goes for the evacuation, it the locals has listened to the Fed's (presidents) advice given two days before the disaster then then the disaster would have been mostly property damage. Truth is that if you take out the 'normal' death rate in La. (they counted them for financial reasons) there was really a low death count considering the local screw ups that led to the deaths. Anyone remember hundreds of drowned school buses that should have been in other states loaded with the citizens of N.O.? Just recently there was a movement to give the Fed's the authority to take over during disasters (they can't now without declaring martial law, I can see the left wingers jumping off of tall buildings if that happened) but the know it all's stopped it. They don't want anyone to save the citizens, that would be one less thing they could complain about.

The left was acting like... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

The left was acting like the storm and the flood was a conspiracy against the poor (when it fact all classes were deeply hurt) and the right immediately turned to demonizing the people of the Gulf South so it would be OK to desert their fellow Americans. (Pay back is going to be a bitch. Say goodbye to the solid south.)

Except the conservatives criticized the utter ineptitude of the GOVERNMENTS in Louisiana, not the people. Nobody said "Well, they deserved it."

What WAS said was "The government in LA utterly let their people down. The city of NO management of this was disgraceful. The politicians are horrendous for trying to blame others for their utter ineptitude."

But don't let that slow ya down now.

That is the vilest thing of all, that instead of reporting the truly horrific events of life in a disaster zone, the story immediately turned into a political finger pointing game.

Thank the "Why does Bush hate black people" crowd.

the political fanatics were trying to make political hay out of "who was to blame".

Hmm, we start off with "Why isn't Bush fixing this?"

Conservatives respond with a discussion of the concept of federalism and some simple facts about what the President can do in comparison to what a governor can do in a state.

The left demonized Bush initially. The right simply corrected the rampant errors.

And Kevin, don't even try to be funny about wishing hurricanes on us. At least wait until people can get back in structures that won't blow away in a heavy wind.

Which is not likely to happen as CNN, a few months back, was praising one official who managed to help people rebuild their homes and remain in thorough conflict with the building codes designed to prevent the catastrophe we saw as much as humanly possible.

One side lies. The other one corrects it. That is "politicizing on both sides"?
-=Mike

>Except the conservatives c... (Below threshold)
Paul:

>Except the conservatives criticized the utter ineptitude of the GOVERNMENTS in Louisiana, not the people. Nobody said "Well, they deserved it."

Bullshit

>Thank the "Why does Bush hate black people" crowd.

Bullshit. Thank the right AND left.

>One side lies. The other one corrects it. That is "politicizing on both sides"?

Mike you have no FUCKING clue what you are talking about.

I'm as right-wing as they come but if you think the right (and Bush) is blameless on
Katrina you are delusional moron.

Get a few facts behind you.

(and BTW, Who is making this partians now asshole? That would be you.)

Doc, I don't need to tell y... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Doc, I don't need to tell you this... You know it all too well.

But don't let the moron get to you. People who have freaking clue what the truth is love to tell us all about it. (Because we're too stupid to figure it out)

People who have never been here, have no clue what happened or what is going on are always the first to beat you in the head with an unimformed opinion.

It's continuously amazing t... (Below threshold)
Lillian:

It's continuously amazing to me how anyone can defend Bush's response to Hurricane Katrina. Even recent history is lost to so many people.

Does anyone remember the weather reports coming in for over a week regarding this storm? I live in the East Coast and I could tell it was an unprecidented event and immediate emergency. I sat there thinking to myself, "Well, at least they have time on their side with this one."

...and still Bush reacted to it like he was asleep at the wheel. Actually, that's not completely right. He acted more like it was not as big an event as it was. People can spin this however they want, but they'd be patently wrong. The FEMA videotaped meeting showed a man who had canned responses but was really disengaged. ("I want to assure the folks at the state level that we are fully prepared to not only help you during the storm, but we will move in whatever resources and assets we have at our disposal after the storm to help you deal with the loss of property. And we pray for no loss of life, of course,")

After that, he went back to his vacation and did not participate in the next day's briefing. And, really, that's a Bush family pattern. It took almost a week before his dad responded to the riots in LA. The Bush family has other priorities.

We can parse words about the performances of individuals during this event, but FEMA used to be a crack unit that responded quick and effectively during many disasters in the 1990s. What happened? Well, the department was changed - during Bush's tenure - and suddenly it's performing shoddy.

Who can possibly claim that Bush is not responsible for the results of that change? Well, the same people who would exonerate Bush from blame for ANYTHING that happened in the last five years he's held office.

Nobody in this country needs an "I told you so" when discussing the how vulnerable we are to have something like this happen again, whether by natural event or terrorists. We need to have a government that can handle these things and it's pretty clear the current one can't. No amount of apologizing is going to change that.

Hugh,The sad thing... (Below threshold)
StephieJanna29:

Hugh,

The sad thing about ignorant people like MikeSC is that they're just too simple to understand the depth of an event - or the accumulated actions of the people involved in them. It's much easier to defend a small part of a micro-event like Bush "actually seeing" flooding.

Well, MikeSC, that's not really what Hugh was talking about, but leave it to a simple man with a small brain and tiny penis to think he's won some kind of argument by fracturing a posting like that. I'm sure you're very popular with the cows out there in Iowa.

Hey Stephie,You're... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Hey Stephie,

You're a whore. You wanna see how big my horn is, I'd be happy to show you, but I don't care much for girls.

Bush is king!!!!

Katrina was more devestaing... (Below threshold)
Drew:

Katrina was more devestaing than 9/11 ...FEMA response? Here's a credit card go out and shop..
We see photos of our troops attempting to clear wreckage and trash from Baghdad while not only N.O. but so much of Missippi remains cluttered. Even the Red Cross was on the take..
I am not an isolationist, but dammit let's take care of our own.
It is not Iraq but Katrina that is the elephant in our room. Candidates from BOTH Party's are ignoring this disgrace. Shame on them. Shame on us it we don't hold even those we support to the Katrina Fire.
This goes way beyond Bush..although his inability to galvinize us and lead us is a factor.

Paul thank you for your com... (Below threshold)
doctorj:

Paul thank you for your comments. I will take them to heart. Did he really say HORN? LOL! How pitiful is that!

"We can parse words about t... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

"We can parse words about the performances of individuals during this event, but FEMA used to be a crack unit that responded quick and effectively during many disasters in the 1990s. What happened? Well, the department was changed - during Bush's tenure - and suddenly it's performing shoddy."

Well, I have a friend in Florida who lived through hurricane Andrew, and she completely disagrees with you. She says there was nothing unexpected, or wrong, with the FEMA response to Katrina. So, I can either conclude that you don't know what the hell you are talking about, or I can discount my friend's actual experience...

...decisions, decisions.

“FEMA used to be a crack un... (Below threshold)
Jaime:

“FEMA used to be a crack unit that responded quick and effectively during many disasters in the 1990s.”
If you believe that I know about a bridge in Brooklin you might also be interested in.

Hurricane Andrew struck in August 1992 “The slow response of federal aid to storm victims in southern Florida led Dade County emergency management director Kate Hale to famously exclaim at a nationally televised news conference, "Where in the hell is the cavalry on this one? They keep saying we're going to get supplies. For God's sake, where are they?" “FEMA had previously been criticized for its response to Hurricane Hugo, which hit South Carolina in September 1989, and many of the same issues that plagued the agency during Hurricane Andrew were also evident during the response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005.”
“When FEMA bungled its relief efforts after the 1990 Loma Prieta, California earthquake, Congressman Mineta concluded that FEMA "could screw up a two-car parade."

Sounds like a crack unit to me….

After thinking it through, ... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

After thinking it through, actually my friend's a bit of dolt. You're probably right about the FEMA thing.

The above post was not made... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

The above post was not made by me. Someone is playing games.

Should I email the blog admistrator about this? I believe I will...

My friend is no dummy. She lost everything in Andrew. Nice of whoever posted the above to be so compassionate.

Okay. I sent an email to th... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

Okay. I sent an email to the administrator. Thank God I did, because now my completely ignorant views can save other dems from their stupidity.

Yes, that's right imposter.... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

Yes, that's right imposter. My views are completely ignorant. That's why you are so threatened by them that you feel you have to play games, like a child, and pretend to be me....

Does anyone remember the... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Does anyone remember the weather reports coming in for over a week regarding this storm? I live in the East Coast and I could tell it was an unprecidented event and immediate emergency. I sat there thinking to myself, "Well, at least they have time on their side with this one."

Well, you must have been a freaking psychic.

Or you're full of shit.

Louisiana's hurricane response plan says that the lowest people evacuate 72 hours before landfall is predicted. -- We didn't even get 48 hours much less 72.

As of 3pm Friday, the projected path was aimed dead at Gulf Breeze Florida. From experience I can tell you that if it hit there New Orleans probably would not even get rain. In fact we usually get good weather when that's where the storms go.

It was the Friday 4pm advisory that moved the predicted path a stunning 150 miles west.

The first gale force winds hit Louisiana about 36 hours later.

I'm not defending Bush in any way. But don't come here and try to bullshit people.

I can assure you that you won't get far.

I don't like to delete comm... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

I don't like to delete comments and have only on very rare occasions banned anyone from commenting. This is the first, last and only warning though, I will ban anyone impersonating another commenter. It might have just been a joke, but it is not fair to the person being impersonated. Don't do it again.

MikeSCSorry I was ... (Below threshold)
Paul:

MikeSC

Sorry I was hard on you dude, but it just wears a bit thin sometimes.

The misinformation is infinite.

I'm just about a loyal a republican as they come but the Repblican's basically told the people of New Orlenas -who were flooding by goverment negligence- "screw you."

AND I've railed against the partisan dumshit since (I think) before the storm even hit land. (or maybe it was Monday)

Either way there is a time for partisanship and there is a time to just help your fellow american.

In the end, about a million people got royally screwed by their goverment and both parties yawned.

The NYT had Abu Grab on the front page above the fold for something like 43 consecutive days.

To my knowledge, they ran 2 storyies on the fact that goverment negligence killed 1200 people and destroyed 200 billion in proporty. (How many people were killed in Abu Grab?)

Ken Lay stole a few bucks and every media source in the country covered every detail of the story. (How many people did he kill?)

Can you tell me the name of the people who killed 1200 people in New Orlenas and destroyed a city? Didn't think so.

I'm rambling. My original point was I'm sorry I jumped you as bad as I did.

I'm not sorry I jumped you... you had that coming. ;-)

I just didn't have to go overboard. ;-)

P

First, to whomever did it, ... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

First, to whomever did it, that is quite a weak attempt at me. It's really, really sad. Didn't even include the email address, which is easy enough to look up. We are aware you have nothing to say --- it's best to simply not SAY anything at that point, rather than simply prove that so conclusively.

Well, Paul, for a change, you decided to bitch incessantly and NOT close the thread. Kudos to you.

Whether you like it or not, it is not the federal government's job to bail out inept local government. Louisiana in general and New Orleans in particular have been run as ineptly as any locale in the country has ever been run and, thus, this caused them a great deal of trouble.

The federal government gave them money. Lots of it. Bush also suggested they evacuate, but since he cannot MAKE them call an evacuation, not a hell of a lot he can do about things.

FEMA is there to CUT CHECKS. That is it. Nothing more, nothing less. To expect more out of them is to ignore their expressed reason to exist.

"Why isn't Bush doing more?" Well, fuck, why the hell does everybody look to Washington rather than to the collection of imbeciles and morons voted into office in Louisiana to, for once in their collectively inept existences, DO SOMETHING FOR THEMSELVES.

If the government down there had the first glimmer of light of a clue, the damage would have been property damage alone --- which is bad --- but not loss of life. If they ever took upkeep of the levees seriously, which they clearly never did, than the massive problems with the levees could have well been averted.

So, things go bad --- and what is the first complaint: "Where's FEMA and Bush". Quite bluntly, the turnaround time for the aid to start was lightning quick for the government. People have this psychotic belief that the federal government is designed to move quickly. Why they think that is lost on me as it never has before.

Bush is blamed for a disaster caused by decades of corrupt and incompetent government in the state of Louisiana. He gave the people shitloads of money --- and they simply sat there and said "give us more". He "let black people die" ignoring that the useless mayor of New Orleans was the one who did that. It was the incompetent governor of the state who was too moronic to know how to even ASK for anything, even though she is required to ask (suffice to say, things would have been considerably smoother if Blanco was not in office).

Of everyone involved, Bush is the LEAST responsible for any of this. He did everything and more that could be asked of the President. Yet he's gotten, by far, the most heat for everything. It's not just grossly unfair but a blatant and intentional misrepresentation of reality.

If that is not good enough to satisfy you., c'est la vie.
-=Mike

An Unnatural Disaster: A Hu... (Below threshold)
Nahanni:

An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State by Robert Tracinski
http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026

The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not happen over four days last week. It happened over the past four decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.

The man-made disaster is the welfare state.

For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave in an emergency—indeed, they were not behaving as they have behaved in other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they have been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In fact, it is not even what we expect from a Third World country.

When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion. They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops, directing cars through the intersection) and large ones (the spontaneous response of New Yorkers to September 11).

So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain that the government hasn't taken care of them. And they don't use the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.

But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.

People living in piles of their own trash, while petulantly complaining that other people aren't doing enough to take care of them and then shooting at those who come to rescue them—this is not just a description of the chaos at the Superdome. It is a perfect summary of the 40-year history of the welfare state and its public housing projects.


Keep dreaming that you have... (Below threshold)
doctorj:

Keep dreaming that you have a competent federal government. We in Louisiana (AND MISSISSIPPI-I guess they have a totally corrupt and inept government too.) have seen how it works up close and personal. FEMA is a 4 letter word in both states. (Not my quote, I just got it from a Biloxi Sun Herald reporter at a news conference of the director of FEMA.) Don't believe the spin. Believe the conservatives on this board that have LIVED it. To ignore them is putting your own family and country at risk. WAKE UP!

"Of everyone involved, Bush... (Below threshold)
Lillian:

"Of everyone involved, Bush is the LEAST responsible for any of this. He did everything and more that could be asked of the President."

Amazing, the depth to which people are willing to believe what's not there. MikeSC, have you read the House Republican's report on Katrina (Failure of Initiative)? Apologize for Bush all you want, the man and his administration were at great fault for what happened in Louisiana.

I'd ask you to actually read it but I'm sure you won't. Everything that doesn't fit with your narrow view of how great your President is is, of course, "bunk" to you, even if it's written by his own party (yes, I know what you position is: the entire report is a lie because they're ALL trying to distance themselves from him. Believe whatever crap you want to. It's so much easier than finding the truth).

Never mind Mike Lillian. "W... (Below threshold)

Never mind Mike Lillian. "W" could torture a three year old child in front of him, and he would say that it was for National Security purposes. Because you never know, there are could be hidden Al Qaeda [sp?] messages in those "Dora" cartoons.

"But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them."

WTF are you talking about? How do you explain all the death and destruction in places like Biloxi. Ms., with all those million dollar mans on the ocean front? This was the worst natural disaster to hit that region probably ever, and you blame the past behavior of the very people effected for the bundled efforts to save them?

Nahanni, I dont know where you live; but I can't wait for YOUR "Waterloo" to come around. I will love to see your ass running with all of your property on your back, and protecting your great values while hundred mile an hour winds whip your dumb ass around.

Nahanni, I made much the sa... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Nahanni, I made much the same point sevral times on this blog and it was picked up by several large papers.

Whether you like it or n... (Below threshold)
Paul:

Whether you like it or not, it is not the federal government's job to bail out inept local government.

The old "FEMA is not a first responder" line.
That's basically the sole argument of people who defend Bush. The problem is that (and I only recently learned this) it's not completely true.

After 9/11 the Feds considered a very real scenario. What happens if local responders are overwhelmed? In that case FEMA is supposed to act as the first responders. (Bet you didn't know that)

The main (National Guard) trucks we would have used to evacuate people were on a plot of land that had never flooded since the the Armory they were stored in was built during the civil war. -- They were under 10 feet of water.

It is explicitly FEMA's job to help local municipalities who have experienced a diaster so great they themselves need to be rescued.

It is a long and complicated (yet easy) story on how FEMA screwed this up. The Wall Street Journal wrote an excellent book on the topic.

If you'd like to learn a litte, read Chapter 6 of the book.

You'll see that the Feds screwed up royally. Mind you, I'm not laying blame on Bush. As I've said repeatedly, government failure was predictable.

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The federal government gave them money. Lots of it.

You believe that? I'm sure in your Ivory tower you believe that. Don't let reality change your point of view.
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FEMA is there to CUT CHECKS. That is it. Nothing more, nothing less. To expect more out of them is to ignore their expressed reason to exist.

WRONG. See above.

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"Why isn't Bush doing more?" Well, fuck, why the hell does everybody look to Washington rather than to the collection of imbeciles and morons voted into office in Louisiana to, for once in their collectively inept existences, DO SOMETHING FOR THEMSELVES.

Are you a complete fucking moron? - No don't answer that, you already did. A million people are just waiting on government. Nobody is rebuilding, nobody is forming groups to clean the city, nobody is risking their life savings to reopen businesses with no idea what the future brings. None of that is happening, we're just down here waiting on a check.

You fucking moron. You condescending fucking moron.

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If the government down there had the first glimmer of light of a clue, the damage would have been property damage alone --- which is bad --- but not loss of life.

Complete. Moron.

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If they ever took upkeep of the levees seriously, which they clearly never did, than the massive problems with the levees could have well been averted.

You know, I'd do another answer to you like I did to your last idiotic point but I can't... I can't link the 20 or so posts I've made explaining it.

Go fucking read and learn something you uninformed twit.

The FEDS knew the design was flawed and built it anyway. They doomed the city.
Geeze you are uninformed.

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So, things go bad --- and what is the first complaint: "Where's FEMA and Bush". Quite bluntly, the turnaround time for the aid to start was lightning quick for the government. People have this psychotic belief that the federal government is designed to move quickly. Why they think that is lost on me as it never has before.

I don't completely disagree. But to say it was "lightning quick" is overselling it. Even by government standards.

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Bush is blamed for a disaster caused by decades of corrupt and incompetent government in the state of Louisiana. He gave the people shitloads of money --- and they simply sat there and said "give us more".

OH how much money? Do you have any clue? As I've outlined in another post, the headlines say one amount went to New Orleans but that amount never made it. Why? Partially because FEMA bought 1 BILLION dollars worth of trailers their own rules said they could not use, so the trailers are rotting in am empty lot in Arkansas. A billion dollars.

Meanwhile a whole year later, some people STILL don't have FEMA trailers and others are begging FEMA to take them away now that they have rebuilt.

But of course you knew all that.

Before you blindly praise Bush and blindly attack the local officials, why don't you -gasp- learn what the fuck you are talking about.

You can start by reading the 2 links above.

The funny thing is, you think you're saying incredibly profound things and those of us who actually understand the situation are laughing at your ignorance.

Well put, Paul. Ig... (Below threshold)
Lillian:

Well put, Paul.

Ignorance is bliss for the people who make these ridiculous posts here...and I'm sure someone is going to claim the Wall Street Journal (one of your posts) has GOT to be a left wing rag if they don't adhere to the platform that Bush and the Feds are innocent of ANY major misjudgements.

No one seems to remember anymore that opinion isn't really fact - and calling a fact false doesn't make it so.

Paul, you're so utterly irr... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Paul, you're so utterly irrational about this topic that even trying to discuss it with you is the equivalent of trying to talk a DU member. An utter waste of time and one likely to make you less educated for having undertaken the endeavor initially.

But, for shits and giggles, let's go:

The old "FEMA is not a first responder" line.
That's basically the sole argument of people who defend Bush. The problem is that (and I only recently learned this) it's not completely true.

After 9/11 the Feds considered a very real scenario. What happens if local responders are overwhelmed? In that case FEMA is supposed to act as the first responders. (Bet you didn't know that)

And FEMA is supposed to know that beforehand? Yeah, REAL plausible there. "You're supposed to be first responders if the local officials are overwhelmed. Now, true, the speed with which you can respond is not immediate and you've often advised of a 72 hour window --- but still. If you're not there and taking care of the problem within a few hours, you failed."

The main (National Guard) trucks we would have used to evacuate people were on a plot of land that had never flooded since the the Armory they were stored in was built during the civil war. -- They were under 10 feet of water.

There were plenty of vehicles to do it beforehand and they refused. Those buses didn't flood themselves. Amtrak's offer wasn't declined by nobody.

The issue is that they were not evacuated in a timely manner BEFORE the problem hit because AFTERWARDS tends to cause problems.

After-the-fact evacuations are not something intelligent folks really wish to do. Before-the-fact tends to be preferred time to do it.

Just to give you a heads up.

You believe that? I'm sure in your Ivory tower you believe that. Don't let reality change your point of view.

Yes, an "ivory tower". Indeed. I'm sure in your padded room you feel that was a witty retort.

Are you a complete fucking moron? - No don't answer that, you already did. A million people are just waiting on government. Nobody is rebuilding, nobody is forming groups to clean the city, nobody is risking their life savings to reopen businesses with no idea what the future brings. None of that is happening, we're just down here waiting on a check.

"Give more. Give more."

It only took the lot of you a long while to decide "Hey, let's get off our butts and do something". It is NOT Washington's job to rebuild your lives. They gave you money to rebuild your own lives.

Look to yourself for a change.

If your area can't rebuild, then why throw money down the pit into it further? Seems to be a monumental waste of resources.

You fucking moron. You condescending fucking moron.

And you're a blithering psychopath.

Now, if name-calling amuses you, we can continue down this path. See, I was being nice until YOU decided to be an unmitigated little shit. YOU decided to make this hostile and that is fine. It's your right as the "weak link" of the main posters to the site.

Before you blindly praise Bush and blindly attack the local officials, why don't you -gasp- learn what the fuck you are talking about

Yes, I PRAISED Bush.

Saying "He's the least reponsible for the problem" is truly deep, deep praise.

Don't worry, I won't reply to your posts any longer. Reading them is painful enough and you're too delusional to actually have a intelligent or cogent conversation, you insepid fuck.
-=Mike
...Hell, go ahead and ban me, too Kos.

And one last thing, Paul, I... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

And one last thing, Paul, I have shit for brains and have no idea what I'm talking about.

So put that in your whatever....and....hmmm, I lost my train of thought. I guess I should have taken that poker out of my rear a few hours ago.

Back to Spongebob. Wheeeee!!!!!

In other words: "No, I had ... (Below threshold)
Paul:

In other words: "No, I had no clue what the fuck I was talking about but now I'll just whine."

Some asswipe is impersonati... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Some asswipe is impersonating me!!!!!!! What's wrong with you, you idiot, don't you know words of wisdom when you hear them? I'm the king of wisdom, and if you don't agree with 100% of what I say you're not smart.

I'm smart, can't you see that? Can't all of you see that!!!!

I research everything that I say and I have really solid reference backup from places like this blog and my previous posts. I'm the smartest person on this blog and no one appreciates that.

And Paul, why don't you just shut up! Shut up!!! You also don't know how smart and important I am to this blog. Your comments mean nothing. My comments and opinion are everything...wait...I think i just said that.

Back to Spongebob. Wheeeee!!!

MikeSC at August 18, 2006 0... (Below threshold)
Sock Puppet:

MikeSC at August 18, 2006 01:30 PM

Except the conservatives criticized the utter ineptitude of the GOVERNMENTS in Louisiana, not the people.


MikeSC at August 18, 2006 11:59 PM

Well, fuck, why the hell does everybody look to Washington rather than to the collection of imbeciles and morons voted into office in Louisiana to, for once in their collectively inept existences, DO SOMETHING FOR THEMSELVES.


MikeSC at August 19, 2006 01:52 PM

"Give more. Give more."

It only took the lot of you a long while to decide "Hey, let's get off our butts and do something". It is NOT Washington's job to rebuild your lives. They gave you money to rebuild your own lives.

Look to yourself for a change.

Nope. No, conservatives criticizing the victims here. What would make you say that?

Dumb Cluck

Put a sock in it, Sock Pupp... (Below threshold)
MIkeSC:

Put a sock in it, Sock Puppet. The people of New Orleans are completely to blame for their own stupidity and you're a tool.

Gee Mike, I think Sock Pupp... (Below threshold)

Gee Mike, I think Sock Puppet's guns are smoking:)

And your only defense is to call him names?

Typical!

I thought you all may be in... (Below threshold)

I thought you all may be interested in seing these aerial images below.

I went on a chopper photo shoot on July 27, 2006 with the National Guard over New Orleans.
It's unreal on how much more damage you can see from an helicopter and still...
after almost one year, (11 months) what it looks like!
If you'd like to see the aerial photos, there are images of the new flood gates being built @ Lakeview too.

http://www.pompo.com/heli.html


Virtual Tours: http://www.pompo.com/qtvr.html
Photography: http://www.pompo.com/neworleans.html
Aerial Photography: http://www.pompo.com/heli.html
Panoramic: http://www.pompo.com/NoLaSkyline





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