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More Progress In Iraq -- Why I Will Continue To Post Good News

When I post good news from Iraq I always get at least a few comments from those on the left pointing out a terrorist attack that took place that day in Iraq, or some other bad news from the region, along with a comment such as, "yeah, Lorie, everything is just perfect in Iraq," as if I had said any such thing. I sometimes respond, but really, what is the point? Is it really possible to converse with someone who does not understand that there can be progress in Iraq, and at the same time there can still be terrorist attacks in the region? Those wanting to hear the bad news from the Middle East can hear it 24/7 in the mainstream media -- both genuine news, as well as news of fake lootings of museums and photoshopped pictures from war zones. Those wanting the whole story, though, including news of progress, have to search to find it reported. That is why I so often do post links to such stories. Read the latest, that violent deaths in Iraq in August were less than of one-third of what they were in July, which was posted at Power Line, along with the way the Washington Post found a way to misreport that good news.


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Comments (40)

But there wouldn't be a war... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

But there wouldn't be a war on terrorism in Iraq if we hadn't responded to the terrorists that attacked America and murdered almost 3,000 people. We were supposed to do like we did after the attack in 1993, let hundreds get away with it and put a blind man in jail. It's all America's fault. Yep.

Not to worry, the dimorats have a plan. They're going to use the 9-11 commission report as a tool to fight terrorism. I guess they've been under a rock asleep for the past 3 years. The 9-11 commission was a joke to cover the failures of the Klington administration to go after Osama when he was offered up and to bury, without fanfare, stupid laws like the Gorlick Wall that could have actually stopped 9-11. Gorlick and Hellary should be tried for the murder of 3,000 people for putting that rule in effect.

I for one like to see reports of the positive things happening in Iraq. I had a few contacts in country but they have all rotated so lost my source of facts from the front.

You could point out that there is more violence in the U.S. (as a crime rate) than in Iraq but the dimorats can't read and understand too well. BDS has dumbed them down so much they have no 'thinking' ability left. Didn't I just see 'U.S.' State Troopers stopping and searching cars for a group of terrorist (american drug dealer style) who killed a State Trooper on the news today?

Has Klington convinced ABC not to show the truth in the Documentry that puts the blame for 9-11 where it belongs, on Slick Willie and his criminal pals. He's not too worried anyway, he sold enough pardons to make several million dollars.

I haven't looked at the fig... (Below threshold)
Michael:

I haven't looked at the figures but beware of assuming that because they dropped from July to August, they're dropping overall. July could have been exceptionally high. I would tend to infer more from the sum total of 3 months data rather than just 1 particular month; anyone knows that only two datapoints aren't enough to draw a proper trend.

Well my husband has been ov... (Below threshold)
cate s.:

Well my husband has been over there since Feb. He said that regardless of what the press says, he thinks things are better than his previous trips over. I know things are bad in Baghdad but he said before it was bad in more parts of the country but much of that has been "fixed" and while the violence in Baghdad is nothing to sneeze at he feel sthat it gets more play as there isn't anything else going on in the other parts of the country. I don't know, I almost feel the dims and the press won't be happy until every soldier is belitteld and spat upon again and they can show how that indeed they are incompetent fools who would be doing something else if they could but who can't so they have to sign up to be killers. First time over he said the reporters were nice but the second time he said there were some new faces that neither he or most of the others felt respected what they do. He hasn't seen any this trip (they hardly ever leave their hotel balconys).
As far as the 9/11 Documentary, I believe it is going to be on the 10th. Does it really lay the blambe at Slick Wille? I would be shocked it it did. This thing on Court TV the other night bashed Bush more often then it did Clinton.

Lorie ~ Keep posting the tr... (Below threshold)

Lorie ~ Keep posting the truth, and never let them get you down with their defeatism.

Remember, it's just like saying something snarky against the Red Sox: every Red Sox fan will jump all over you. Same here when you report bad news for the terrorist-supporting, anti-American leftists. Those who believe Iraqis were better off under Saddam's brutal dictatorship will never be happy with good news for America or bad news for terrorists.

You should wear their scorn as a badge of honor.

The only "good news" I want... (Below threshold)
sanssoucy:

The only "good news" I want to hear out of Iraq is that our troops are coming home.

I don't give a fuck about a new school being built to teach little Islamists to hate Israel using proper grammar. I don't give a shit that more electricity is available to let the bearded heeber-jeebers stay up late planning new riots against Israel and America. I don't give a rat's ass how many new police officers (read: Islamist infiltrators) are on the streets. I don't give a damn whether the Ayatollah Al-Assholh is on board / off board with the incredibly corrupt, Islamist-infected government.

I just want my friends out of that fucking shithole.

So I don't mind hearing these little orts of news about [insert happy talk here], but until this "good news" bloggers keep touting actually results in *our troops coming home*, let's just say I'm kinda dubious about how good your news really is.

SS

Hey, first time here but I ... (Below threshold)

Hey, first time here but I must say I like your logic. I appreciate hearing good news whenever I can. I recognize like the last comment that it would be great that our friends and family were to come home but what they are doing there is just as important and its encouraging to know that they are making a difference. Keep it up!

ss -Either we help... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

ss -

Either we help the Islamic societies get out of the 10th century, or we'll have to kill them all.

Which would you rather do?

It's a simple race against time. It's only a matter of time until some hopeless, brainwashed Islamist gets ahold of a nuke or a dirty bomb or some new killer virus, etc.. and sets it off in NYC or D.C. or Peoria or anywhere else. Our only hope is to help transform these medieval societies into some type of society with freedom and tolerance of others before they do something that costs tens of millions of lives.

Or, we can kill a few hundred million of them after they attack us.

That's our choice.


When progress is defined as... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

When progress is defined as not as many killed this month as last month against a backdrop of 1/2 trillion dollars wasted, 2600+ dead and 50,000 wounded (counting our mentally injured Vets already being ignored and living on the streets) along with world wide distain for our country IT IS my job as an honest concerned American to tell you to GO TO HELL !

http://www.malu-aina.org/peacemarch/fear.jpg

"IT IS my job as an honest ... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

"IT IS my job as an honest concerned American to tell you to GO TO HELL !"

Posted by: muirgeo

Wow! That was very peaceful! LOL!

"world wide distain(sic) fo... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

"world wide distain(sic) for our country"

Posted by: muirgeo

If you believe that you are right, no amount of DISDAIN should deter you. If we only did what made us popular in the world's eyes, we would just continue to be attacked on American soil. I would rather take the fight to any terrorists determined to kill us than wait for it here at home.

Muirgeo, what do you think of WWII? Tens of millions of people died, for what? Just to stop fascists from taking over the world! Was it worth it? Absolutely! You complain about 2600+ Americans dead in a war you want us to lose! Whatever you might think you are, you are not an American. You may live and work here, but that counts for nothing. Go live in a place where sharia law is practiced and enjoy yourself. You are not needed here.

SS,Your post shows... (Below threshold)
kirktoe:

SS,

Your post shows a blatant ignorance of the enemy we're fighting and the what we're trying to do to stop it.

First, you go after the terrorists where they exist and function and you destroy them. These people are willing to sacrifice their own in suicide attacks, not to mention beheading other non-beleivers. Do you really think they would leave us alone if we left Iraq?

Second (and at the same time) you have to create the conditions for freedom to take root in areas formerly ruled by terrorists. Freedom to terroists is like Raid to roaches. They cannot function in an environment like that. And the people who live in freedom are not going to go around plotting terrorist attacks mainly because they are HAPPY to have the freedom to make choices in their lives and basically enjoy the benefits of the 21st century (as oppsed to the first century type of situation they were living under).

BTW, you have absolutely no evidence that Iraqi's are being taught to hate Israel. In fact, the Iraqi's are very intelligent people and I doubt that they give much thought to Israel one way or the other considering what they've suffered from Israel-haters in their own country the past 20 years.

Whatever you might think yo... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

Whatever you might think you are, you are not an American. You may live and work here, but that counts for nothing. Go live in a place where sharia law is practiced and enjoy yourself. You are not needed here.

Posted by: John F Not Kerry

Me and the other 63% of Americans who agree with me are unAmerican??

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

ss - Either we help the ... (Below threshold)
astigafa:

ss - Either we help the Islamic societies get out of the 10th century, or we'll have to kill them all. Which would you rather do?

What would you people do without all those false choices? You'd probably rather fight them over there than over here, eh?

Dreck.

"Me and the other 63% of Am... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

"Me and the other 63% of Americans who agree with me are unAmerican??"

Posted by: muirgeo

Well, I was speaking only to you, since you were the one posting comments here and linking to posters linking Bush and OBL together. Polls are meaningless bits of propaganda meant to invent news. Taking a sample of opinion of a small group of people determines nothing, except maybe to show the biases of those asking the questions. Go ahead and keep relying on shaky polls. I will continue to advocate the defeat of our enemies. If it is the right thing to do, why should polls matter?

Your post shows a blatan... (Below threshold)
sanssoucy:

Your post shows a blatant ignorance of the enemy we're fighting and the what we're trying to do to stop it.

Let's suppose you're exactly right, and I am ignorant about what we're trying to do in Iraq to "stop it."

Can you educate me?

What - *exactly* - is the sensible series of well-understood, properly-conceived steps that we're following to win in Iraq?

I mean, surely someone as enlightened as you appear to be, with respect to the administration's brilliant plan to secure Iraq and bring our boys home, must be able to clearly articulate the well-defined series of steps we are following - and what progress we've made to this date?

Can't you?

What is our plan? Start with "So, we invaded Iraq..." and end with, "...and thus, victorious, our troops arrived home."

??????????

SS

Part of the freedom won by ... (Below threshold)

Part of the freedom won by our blood and treasure over the centuries is that for these defeatists and anti-American slime to speak their own fetid thoughts.

Their whining about Iraq comes as the total of our soldiers who have died there in three and a half years is not quite equal to the worst month in Vietnam, the worst week in World War I, the worst day of World War II, or the worst hour at Gettsyburg. One wonders how quickly the likes of these cowardly leftists would have surrendered in any of those wars . . .


Let them go back to their Code Pink bake sales and raise more money for terrorists targeting Americans.

Their whining about Iraq... (Below threshold)
sanssoucy:

Their whining about Iraq comes as the total of our soldiers who have died there in three and a half years is not quite equal to the worst month in Vietnam, the worst week in World War I, the worst day of World War II, or the worst hour at Gettsyburg.

What an appallingly stupid remark.

I guess it never occurs to a troglodyte like yourself that the mere fact that *less* American soldiers are getting slaughtered in Iraq than at [your pet battle here] doesn't mean that the the Iraq war is (a) not incompetently managed, (b) worthwhile in the first place, or (c) a good thing.

For fuck's sake, get a clue.

SS

For fuck's sake, get a clue... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

For fuck's sake, get a clue.

SS

Posted by: sanssoucy


Good post. What insane logic from the side that claims to support the troops. "Oh only 2,500 of them have died so that's no big deal since blah, blah , blah died in such and such a war.

Talk about disrespecting our soldiers. Not one would have died in Iraq had Gore been president and we'd be safer AND we'd have half a trillion extra dollars for the homeland.

"For fuck's sake, get a clue." I second that motion.

"What - *exactly* - is the ... (Below threshold)
kirktoe:

"What - *exactly* - is the sensible series of well-understood, properly-conceived steps that we're following to win in Iraq?

I mean, surely someone as enlightened as you appear to be, with respect to the administration's brilliant plan to secure Iraq and bring our boys home, must be able to clearly articulate the well-defined series of steps we are following - and what progress we've made to this date?

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1 - the removal of Saddam Hussein. Done.

2 - re-building the infrastructure that was in disarray thanks to 25+ years of Saddam's rule. In case you missed it, most Iraqi's have electricity and running water now.

3 - Elections in Iraq. There's been 3 of them now and millions have voted despite the threat of death. SS, I know you can't be stupid enough to have missed that.

4 - Training Iraqi's to defend their own country. That is on-going.

4 - Defeating the insurgency in Iraq. Yes, we've had to change strategy and underestimated the strength of the insurgency, but name me a war when that hasn't happened. We are defeating the insurgency (with the help of the Iraqi's) and will continue to defeat it. The problem is that insurgents know that one person can kill hundreds and that people like you (and the mainstream media) will look at that and promote it as the ONLY thing that is going on over there. And they hope that if they keep this up long enough it will affect policy in this country. Problem is, they don't realize that you and the media are not President Bush and he's not going to cut and run.

There is a term that fits people like you perfectly: useful idiots.

"Talk about disrespecting o... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

"Talk about disrespecting our soldiers. Not one would have died in Iraq had Gore been president and we'd be safer AND we'd have half a trillion extra dollars for the homeland."

Posted by: muirgeo

Gore would have treated any attack like 9/11 just like his feckless predecessor, like a law enforcement action, not an act of war. Our enemies would know that we would not strike back, but issue toothless edicts (Clinton and Albright once declared war on terrorism). Saddam Hussein would have waited out the sanctions and continued his WMD programs, handing out weapons to terrorists. Remember how many Democrat senators signed the letter about how much of a menace Saddam was and needed to be taken out, back in 1998? Look it up. We even established "regime change" in Iraq as our official policy. How you can change a regime without doing anything is a mystery to me, but it was a great symbolic gesture by Clinton/Gore, et al. Dictators don't retire without outside assistance or revolution.

Half a trillion extra dollars for the homeland? That's a rich one. Gore would have wasted that on Government research into global warming. The track record of recent Democrats on national security is atrocious. I hope you get a chance to watch the 9/11 movie on ABC and see how Clinton let OBL skate away when he could have had him.

Elections in Iraq. There... (Below threshold)
sanssoucy:

Elections in Iraq. There's been 3 of them now and millions have voted despite the threat of death. SS, I know you can't be stupid enough to have missed that.

Yeah. Wow. Elections. Impressive. How many of our troops came home after each of these awesome, fabulous, light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel elections?

If we have another election, can our troops come home then? Two elections? Three?

Don't get me wrong, elections are a nice thing, but they're only useful - in a practical sense - if they help us achieve our goals. And thus far, the main thrust of these Iraqi elections has been to install a weak and ineffective - and frighteningly corrupt - government that can't even deal with Muqtada al-Fatfuck. Oh, wait, next he'll be *in* the government.

Nasrallah, anyone?

Defeating the insurgency in Iraq. Yes, we've had to change strategy and underestimated the strength of the insurgency, but name me a war when that hasn't happened.

This is nice, but it's not a *strategy*, nor even a series of steps; it's a *hope*. Yes, yes, everyone hopes that moving troops to the capital and whacking *those* moles will somehow do the trick. Like getting Zarkawi was supposed to do the trick. Like crushing Fallujah was supposed to do the trick. Like retreating^h^h^h^h^h victory in Najaf was supposed to do the trick. Like finding Saddam was supposed to do the trick. Like killing Uday and Qusay was supposed to do the trick.

So *that's* the plan? Keep shooting and hope *something* does the trick, sometime?

Problem is, they don't realize that you and the media are not President Bush and he's not going to cut and run.

If he's not careful, he's not going to have a choice.

The political problem here is that the American people demand that we do one of two things in Iraq from the point we are now:

(a) Win and get out.
(b) Just fucking get out.

If Bush isn't going to do the first - and do it in a clear, unambiguous, progressive, and recognizably so fashion - then America is going to elect Barbara Frakking Boxer and her ilk to do the second.

It's that simple, folks.

SS

Gore would have treated any... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

Gore would have treated any attack like 9/11 just like his feckless predecessor, like a law enforcement action, not an act of war. .....

Half a trillion extra dollars for the homeland? That's a rich one. Gore would have wasted that on Government .....

Posted by: John F Not Kerry


First I could point to a lot of things Clinton/ Gore did to fight terrorism (Hart-Rudman Commission) while you could not FIND ONE THING the Bush Administration did Pre-9/11. In fact they TOTALLY ignored terrorism with Bush dismissing the CIA Briefer who arrived at his Crawford Ranch with the Presidential Daily Briefing explaining Osama planned to attack with the following "All right. You've covered your ass, now." and then he went back to clearing brush and 1 month later the worst terrorist attack in our history happened on his watch.

As for Gore and spending here review this....

http://www.academycomputerservice.com/economics/charts.htm

be sure to bring your bag of excuses when you reply. I always find neocon replies to this entertaining.

To mun-go or what ever the ... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

To mun-go or what ever the hell you post as--you will have to get out of the door for before anyone else can get into hell. Oh and push old SS (shameless shitface) out of the way as you move over. Dumbass frigging asskissing, bootlicking appeasing liberals. (sorry thats all I could think of for now.)

If you have a notion... (Below threshold)
dr lava:


If you have a notion that this Iraq debacle is anything other than cataclysmic failure on the part of this administration I would urge you to read Thomas Ricks book "Fiasco" It is comprised of detailed interviews with the military from Generals down who served in Iraq, former CPA authorities, and contractors. It details the massive failures of this administration on all levels and in all ways in Iraq. The military had the ability and the ideas to solve the problems they faced but were consistently rebuked by the Bush administation who in their absolute arrogance thought they knew better than our brave guys on the ground there how to proceed.

Bad decision upon bad decision from Rumsfeld and Cheney are detailed in heartbreaking narratives from these brave service men. It is so reminiscent of the federal response to Katrina.

To support this administration now is the ultimate slap in the face to the brave guys dying over in that shithole.

It really amazes me that pe... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

It really amazes me that people come here just to engage in pissing matches, especially when they link to articles and polls that are clearly partisan. Look, we've got economists and pollsters on our side who say exactly the opposite as you, so what's the point? Are you purposefully trying to waste my time? Do you intend on convincing someone here of anything? Oddly enough, I choose not to visit left wing sites to even read what they are saying. I mean, I could read the NY Times or watch seeBS News for that. I just go to this site:

http://www.dummiefunnies.com

Proud to be a non-Jewish Neocon

The problem with you... (Below threshold)
dr lava:


The problem with you pal is that you are listening to your pollsters and economists instead of the military account, in Ricks book," Fiasco", who were on the ground in Iraq. The amount of self delusion necessary to call this Iraq nightmare a success is astounding. But you people will do it. Just like you did from 1967 to 1975 when 25,000 of our guys died for a useless cause in Vietnam. Because that's the way you are. There is no changing you people.

Dr Lava,You believe ... (Below threshold)

Dr Lava,
You believe Ricks, I believe my brothers and friends in the military.
They do not agree, btw, Ricks and the men I know and trust.
While I don't call Iraq a success, that has more to do with the fact that it isn't over than what has gone right and what has gone wrong.
BTW, nice use of "you people".

"The problem with you pal..... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

"The problem with you pal..."

Thank you for letting me know about my problems. I was under the impression that I didn't have any and that it was a perfect world. I will now listen to only left-leaning economists and pollsters and former generals. I will not believe chimpy mchitler even if he says the sun rises in the east. Where have you been all my life?

To mun-go or what ever the ... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

To mun-go or what ever the hell you post as--you will have to get out of the door for before anyone else can get into hell. Oh and push old SS (shameless shitface) out of the way as you move over. Dumbass frigging asskissing, bootlicking appeasing liberals. (sorry thats all I could think of for now.)

Posted by: jhow66

No rational retort and very discombobulated. SUCCESS!

Oddly enough, I choose not ... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

Oddly enough, I choose not to visit left wing sites to even read what they are saying. I mean, I could read the NY Times or watch seeBS News for that. I just go to this site:

http://www.dummiefunnies.com

Proud to be a non-Jewish Neocon

Posted by: John F Not Kerry


And that's the difference between people like me and you. I listen to Rush, Sean, Savage, the local Con radio (KSFO) , watch Fox ( the O'Rielly comedy hour just cracks me up, and Sean Hannity is having night mares about President Pelosi.....so funny)... and read conservative blogs and internet news.

I want my positions challenged you want yours re-inforced....I wonder why?

"I want my positions challe... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

"I want my positions challenged..."

Posted by: muirgeo

All I need to do to have my positions challenged is to turn on the news or look at my local excuse for a newspaper. I have principles that I have settled in my mind, and a philosophical position staked out. I am not a very nuanced person, not because I haven't been exposed to different ideas, but because I have, and found some wanting. If you think you have me figured out, then fine for you.

"IT IS my job as an honest concerned American to tell you to GO TO HELL !"

Posted by: muirgeo

And they say that people like me are the angry ones. I actually believe in Hell, but I sincerely hope you don't end up there, despite your wishes for me. Sweet dreams!

I didn't read any of the co... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

I didn't read any of the comments, but this part of the post hit me in the gut:

When I post good news from Iraq I always get at least a few comments from those on the left pointing out a terrorist attack that took place that day in Iraq, or some other bad news from the region, along with a comment such as, "yeah, Lorie, everything is just perfect in Iraq," as if I had said any such thing.

I just posted something this morning about this very, "syndrome." I have been fighting with an anti-war fool for months on another blog. My point for him was that anything less than agreeing with him that Iraq is an absolute disaster is unacceptable to him. He absolutely, positively can NOT acknowledge anything positive in Iraq. He can't acknowledge ANY progress that's been made.

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that things have been far from perfect, and that there have been setbacks...but I can't ignore the troops that are complaining that our MSM is focusing only on the negatives. He says they are, "painting a rosy picture, out of self-preservation."

Unreal...

And they say that people li... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

And they say that people like me are the angry ones. I actually believe in Hell, but I sincerely hope you don't end up there, despite your wishes for me. Sweet dreams!

Posted by: John F Not Kerry

You'd be angry too, I hope, if you understood how your country is being sold out....what's the saying, "Ignorance is bliss"?

The hell thing is just a figure of speech. There is no hell. I promise. It's just another fear tactic you've fallen for, AGAIN, so others can control and use you.

http://www.benfrank.net/nuke/images7/goering-quote.jpg

For you I suggest you at least try and watch the Movie, Why We Fight.

And maybe remember what Ike said:

We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Dwight D. Eisenhower 1961

Dumbass frigging asskiss... (Below threshold)
sanssoucy:

Dumbass frigging asskissing, bootlicking appeasing liberals. (sorry thats all I could think of for now.)

Or ever.

SS

"The hell thing is just a f... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

"The hell thing is just a figure of speech. There is no hell. I promise. It's just another fear tactic you've fallen for, AGAIN, so others can control and use you."

Posted by: muirgeo

For someone so worried about temporal matters (which do matter), I am surprised that you think so little of things beyond this life. If you believe Hell is just used as a fear tactic by others to control me, then why have I had no fear of it (for myself) for over 23 years? The Bible of course talks about it, but overwhelmingly more points us to the God who longs for us to know Him and enjoy Him for eternity. You may have determined that avoiding Him is a calculated risk you are willing to take. I enjoy a personal relationship with Him each day. Disdain that all you like, it will not change anything.

Also, it strikes me greatly that you yourself are attempting to use fear to motivate me toward a certain thought process and course of action. I don't discount that, I just point it out. Fear can be a great motivator, at least in the short term, but it is a terrible way to live one's life. You'll just have to excuse me if I don't share the fears you have. Nevertheless, I wish you peace.

Finally, I'm not sure if linking to Herman Goerring quotes will gain you a lot of credibility, but that's just my opinion.

"If you believe Hell is jus... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

"If you believe Hell is just used as a fear tactic by others to control me, then why have I had no fear of it (for myself) for over 23 years? "

John F

Well that's the other great thing about hell....once you're scared into believing in it then you can rest assured that hell is not for you, because you believe. In fact you can sin as much as you want, be a priest and rape kids but then repent and you still avoid heaven. But for all of those who disagree with you....you get eternal bliss while watching me burn continuously. AND you get balcony seats.

Well its good God talks to you....he must not like me. In fact, shortly here today me and my dog Myra are about to hike back to Velma Lakes. Last time I was their I had a most spiritual feeling. The sun was glinting a million reflections on the lake , it was warming me deep inside, an hawk called, the wind was blowing through the reeds and wildflowers surrounded me in beauty. I felt incredibly moved and cried ....I asked for God and cried some more, a happy joyful, hopeful cry, at the beauty around me.......nothing...nothing but natures beauty..nature my creator for sure but nothing of heaven or hell..no words spoken....guess I'm going to hell.....but I'm not afraid either.....except for my 2 daughters future....

Oh and if you talk with God soon let him know I'll be at Lower Velma lake in a few hours. Myra's my dogs coming too...I hope that's OK with him. Like all people I'd really like to meet him....but only if he's REALLY there.


Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.

-Thomas Jefferson

So using hateful language a... (Below threshold)

So using hateful language and invective to each other is going to solve all the problems of the world?

Islam has been attacking the West with increasingly bold violence for many years. Until uncompromising force was used against them, these attacks were certain to continue. The spineless behavior of James Earl Carter, Jr. and William Jefferson Clinton were not deterrants of any kind.

I'm sure there are many peace-loving and moderate Muslims around the world. The problem is - do we ever hear their voices? No we don't. They keep quiet out of cowardice. Just as prior presidents didn't react - most likely from the same motivation.

So when a real man inhabits the White House - as is now the case - to their shock and horror, the Islamofascists find that when they push - we push back! I have found that is the only way to handle a bully, either on the playground or the world stage. A bully is unable to understand anything other than the kind of violence he is so fond of visiting upon others.

You can have the peace of the grave (which is what the Islamofascists wish for all of us who do not believe as they do - they make no secret of it) or you can have peace gained through strength and resolve.

Whether you like our President's policies or not, I honestly do not care. And your rude and hateful language will not convince me of anything other than the poverty of your intelligence and language!

"Well that's the other grea... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

"Well that's the other great thing about hell....once you're scared into believing in it then you can rest assured that hell is not for you, because you believe. In fact you can sin as much as you want, be a priest and rape kids but then repent and you still avoid heaven. But for all of those who disagree with you....you get eternal bliss while watching me burn continuously. AND you get balcony seats."

Posted by: muirgeo

If that's the best response you have, then I am truly saddened for you. As much as you have attempted to caricature me, I will not do the same for you. I know nothing of your experiences in life, as you know nothing of mine. If there is no God, mocking me would accomplish nothing anyway. If God is there, and is different than your current perception and understanding, then it would make sense to reach for Him. Telling you to read the Bible might seem a bit trite, but I can think of no other place to start. Jeremiah quotes God as saying this: "You will seek me and find me, if you will seek me with all your heart."

If you believe that I am judging you, so be it. I am not. Again, for what it is worth, I wish you peace.

To mun-go & SS (shameless s... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

To mun-go & SS (shameless shitface): hmmm must have hit a nerve. Love to see a couple of nerds like you two try to make everyone beleave you know shit from shinola. (200K + per year-lol)

Les : Either we help the Is... (Below threshold)
Les Nessman:

Les : Either we help the Islamic societies get out of the 10th century, or we'll have to kill them all. Which would you rather do?

Astifaga : What would you people do without all those false choices?


Well, asti, thanks for the snarky, content-free response. I guess that means I am correct about our having only two choices.




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