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This Is The President I Like To See

If you missed this morning's presidential press conference, be sure to read the transcript. I caught bits of it while driving and found myself cheering. This is the Bush those of us who want plain, clear talk about the threat of terrorism want to hear more often.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President, former Secretary of State Colin Powell says the world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism. If a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and former Secretary of State feels this way, don't you think that Americans and the rest of the world are beginning to wonder whether you're following a flawed strategy?

THE PRESIDENT: If there's any comparison between the compassion and decency of the American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it's flawed logic. I simply can't accept that. It's unacceptable to think that there's any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective, Terry.

My job, and the job of people here in Washington, D.C., is to protect this country. We didn't ask for this war. You might remember the 2000 campaign. I don't remember spending much time talking about what it might be like to be a Commander-in-Chief in a different kind of war. But this enemy has struck us and they want to strike us again. And we will give our folks the tools necessary to protect the country; that's our job.

It's a dangerous world. I wish it wasn't that way. I wish I could tell the American people, don't worry about it, they're not coming again. But they are coming again. And that's why I've sent this legislation up to Congress, and that's why we'll continue to work with allies in building a vast coalition, to protect not only ourselves, but them. The facts are, is that after 9/11, this enemy continued to attack and kill innocent people.

I happen to believe that they're bound by a common ideology. Matter of fact, I don't believe that, I know they are. And they want to impose that ideology throughout the broader Middle East. That's what they have said. It makes sense for the Commander-in-Chief, and all of us involved in protecting this country to listen to the words of the enemy. And I take their words seriously. And that's what's going to be necessary to protect this country, is to listen carefully to what they say and stay ahead of them as they try to attack us.

Be sure to read the part about the Detainee Treatment Act. I did not excerpt it here because it was a bit lengthy.


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We didn't ask for this w... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

We didn't ask for this war.

Well, President Bush didn't ask for the war against bin Laden...which he lost by failing to bring him to justice as he pledged to do. (Let's see, he allowed bin Laden to get away with murder for how many? 1830 days? Yep.)

But the President DID ask for the war in Iraq.

"My job, and the job of ... (Below threshold)

"My job, and the job of people here in Washington, D.C., is to protect this country."

Gee, and I always thought his job was to defend the Constitution and faithfully execute the laws.

Silly me.

Sorry but I'll take Colin P... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

Sorry but I'll take Colin Powell's and the rest of the world's opinion of that of the Fear-Monger-in-Chief.


"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"
FDR (a true statesman)


"My job is to protect this country. But this enemy has struck us and they want to strike us again.
It's a dangerous world. ..... they are coming again. ...... this enemy continued to attack and kill innocent people. "

GWB (a wholey owed subsidiary of Multinational Corporation Incorporated)


Be scared chioldren...be very very scared...BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...and vote for me...cause they are coming......Jesus H people wake the F up....

You can now disregard anyth... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

You can now disregard anything posted by Publicus. He has shown that he is simply a hack for someone. Not even smart enought to know we have been at war with Iraq since 1991. Over 40,000 troops were in the middle east to keep the idiot Saddam from killing all of his neighbors. Our aircrews were being targeted on a daily basis. President Bush simply had the guts to do what Slick Willie didn't have time to do. He was too engaged with his hookers and aide's under the desk.
KipEsquire: Your idiotic attempt at a slam doesn't make sense either. By Protecting the country and the people he is doing his duty 100% IAW the constitutional duties laid on him by the constitution. You know you can actually get a copy of the constitution 'free' from several sites on the internet, and a little research on the framers of the constitution wouldn't hurt all of the democrats. Making it up as you go along wasn't one of the articles. Read it, heed it.

The Republican party is mel... (Below threshold)
Drew:

The Republican party is melting...
After all what would Bush, who really, really wanted to fight in Viet Nam but chose not to not know more about torture that McCain? Remember all the swiftboating of McCain and how he "broke" under torture? Just maybe that is on his mind on this issue...We keep hearing Bush talk about "vague"...yet he is not specific about what is acceptable...

Anyone blindly following Bush at this point is no different than those who had no probablem with Clinton after he looked us in the eye and lied...

You are correct ScrapIron. ... (Below threshold)
VagaBond:

You are correct ScrapIron. Publicus is really Sean Penn. And we can safely ignore him.

If there's any compariso... (Below threshold)
mattyd:

If there's any comparison between the compassion and decency of the American people and the terrorist tactics of extremists, it's flawed logic.

THAT'S NOT WHAT POWELL SAID!

Let's try again. Powell said re: Bush and Geneva Conventions...

...the world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism...

Which is, by many respectable accounts:
1) True.
2) Pivotal in the war on terror.
3) Coming from a man, Powell, with far more military credibility than George W.

Powell did not EQUATE the U.S. with terrorists, or their moral standing.

He was legitimately addressing sound principles to which he believed the U.S. must remain committed. For both moral and strategic reasons.

Bush's commitment of purpose in the WOT is admirable.

But Bush's critics here -- Powell, McCain, John W. Warner, Lindsey Graham -- are speaking from positions of outstanding military experience and integrity. To misrepresent their position as moral relativism --when in fact it is moral integrity and leadership -- is cheap and irresponsible.

I'm sorry, Lorie, that's not something I can "cheer".

As for which side is correct? I defer to the actual combat veterans on this one.

Those of you who disagree, I hope you'll explain how your military or military-legal experience is on par with Powell, McCain, Lindsay and Graham.

Hello... anyone still here?... (Below threshold)
USSRangerDan:

Hello... anyone still here?

Mercy, it stinks of trolls in this comments section.

I'll be around, off and on tonight, to help Scrapiron and Vagabond clean up the place. Unless, of course, I missed the VRWC memo decreeing all comments to Lori's post be a parody or satire. If thats the case... YOU GUYS/GALS/ITs ARE FRIGGING WONDERFUL!!!
Almost up there with the BlameBush! site.

My favorite part of President George W. Bush's speech was...
"I wish I could tell the American people, don't worry about it, they're not coming again. But they are coming again".

It sent shivers down my spine, because it's so true, to anyone willing to open their eyes and ears. They have no secret plan, yet plan in secret. Their plan is our conversion, submission, or death. In no paticular order.

I think the President should have added this to the above mentioned quote.
"and again and again and again, until they, or their Evil History (I double dog dare a troll to question their evil
history) are on the scrapheap of history".

You're doing a great job Wizbang. I've been a lurker for years.

Thanks.

I was pleased to see that t... (Below threshold)

I was pleased to see that the Jim Lehrer News Hour excerpted Bush's speech at length.

Scrapiron, my huckleberry f... (Below threshold)

Scrapiron, my huckleberry friend, you are correct. The Constitution is freely available to anyone who cares to link to it online. Perhaps you should take your advice, and read it. It's actually a pretty good read. The part about the president, Article II, is actually the shortest read of all, since the founders spent the most time describing the role of the branch they designed to be preeminent -- the congress -- and comparatively little time describing the duties of the president. Note that nowhere in the document, which you can find here: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec1

... does it say that the president's job is to protect the country. It does say this, as Publicus correctly pointed out:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

... I assume you either meant to say that the president presides as the top civilian authority over the armed forces ... either that or you get your constitutional scholarship from Sean Hannity.

... oh, and Ranger Dan? The... (Below threshold)

... oh, and Ranger Dan? There's medication for that extreme paranoia and anxiety of yours. You wingers' determination to live in raw, ragged fear at all times is astounding. Do you realize that Iraqis are being slaughtered in every quarter of that country, literally six dozen a day? And we have had, what, TWO major terror attacks on the United States in 16 years??? Where are all of these hoards of evil Muslims grabbing you off the street and converting you (or cutting off your head)? What the hell happened to America's bravery? Where are the Americans of World War II who had nothing to fear but fear itself? What kinds of pansies have we become if we're letting this president and his bungling team of incompetents scare people like you half to death, so they can rob you of your liberty and let their contractor friends steal from you??? Seriously, are you people on some sort of mind altering drugs???

Sheesh. Live free or die, my *ss. You wingers are total marks.

I was gonna jump in here, b... (Below threshold)

I was gonna jump in here, but my friend Skip from another site said what I felt like saying, so I will quote him:

"Oh my the whiners are out in full force on this one. We're in for a big old fashioned smarm a thon now.

my my. According to the pansies our very civilization is at stake if we squeeze the boys down in gitmo too hard.

What a steaming pile of parrot droppings.

The fact is we shed a very large portion of our "civilization" to win WW2 and son of gun we recovered in short order.

Now the feminized metrosexual boys posting here are warning us that sending achmed home to his momma in a dozen boxes means the end of our way of life. yeah, right.

It doesn't seem to me that we're asking for much at all: stop coddling these guys, wring them dry, try them fairly, hang them publically then send what ever the crows don't eat back to whatever thirdworld toilet currently houses the bitches that bore them.

On the not so serious side it seems to me that the senators are just being lazy about this. Many in America object to offering captured terrorists anything other than a bayonet in the belly. These guys are little more than mass murderers.

What the current effort in congress seems to do is wrap the terrorists in a blanket of protection that they absolutely do not deserve simply because the senators don't want to revisit this should the situation change at some point in the future.

there should be different standards for the terrorists and uniformed soldiers that take the field against us. If the whiners have a problem with that, let them add it to thier ever lengthening list.

I sincerely doubt that we'll give up an iota of morality by treating these bastards harshly. This is just a feminized smoke screen coming from boys who gave up thier manhood on the altar of liberalism years ago."

Posted by: skip at September 15, 2006

And these are my words:

The ability to interogate and prosecute these madmen who abide by NO RULES is being marginalized by our leaders in the Senate. Mr. Warner, McCain, and Grahm are so worried about the worlds view on how these terrorist are treated, (and how they are precieved by their electorate), these people are bowing to the political correctness that would re-elect them at the peril of our own sovernty.

WE ARE AT WAR PEOPLE! And this is a war of our outright survival. Is it possible we have become a nation that has not the fortitude to prosecute this war to win? Will sixty year old rules of engagement created by those who wore uniforms be the guiding lines we must abide by today?

Rovin

Well Lorie I've finally had... (Below threshold)
jainphx:

Well Lorie I've finally had it with your comment line, Ill visit here no more.You have more trolls than Hans Christian Anderson,if I want to read and debate scum like this I'd go to koz or demunderware.I really like your postings,but not having the consideration to police your comment line,to me shows contempt for me and like minded.Maybe this is what the trolls wanted,ok you got it.

jainphx -Trolls... (Below threshold)
mattyd:

jainphx -

Trolls? Debate scum?

Seems to me there are plenty of solid points here from both the right and the left.

Are you sure the problem is Lorie not policing her thread? Or does jainphx just not like seeing that people disagree with her?

I admire Lorie for allowing opposing viewpoints.

Yes troll. I live in... (Below threshold)
USSRangerDan:

Yes troll.
I live in fear. Not from booosh or the jooos. They have never expressed their desire to shed my infidel blood.

Yet millions of people who are a "broad stata" of our world have.

Hummmm... Who should I fear?

By the way, it's not like we have a choice.

jainphx,I posted thi... (Below threshold)

jainphx,
I posted this around 3 this afternoon. Since then I have picked my kids up at school, finished washing clothes for my daughter to take to girl scout camp this weekend, cooked my husband an omelet since he missed lunch today, helped my daughter pack, picked up something for supper, picked up some snacks at the grocery store for her to take with her, got gas (at $2.33/gallon!) drove her 30 miles to the camp, stopped back by the grocery store on the way home so I could pick up cold and frozen stuff, came home and unloaded groceries and put them away, played five games of Guess Who with my daughter that didn't go to camp, helped her set up her Princess tent in the living room, called my mom and just now checked my email. Forgive me for not staying in front of the computer for the past 7 hours to police comments. I had a few things to do first.

Thank you jreid for posting... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

Thank you jreid for posting a link to the Constitution—an important and great read for anyone of any political persuasion.

Indeed, as jreid notes, the oath of office says nothing about protecting the people. In the oath, the president swears to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

FYI - those of you who accuse me of not knowing the Constitution are way over your heads. Not only do I frequently re-read that document, which I love, but I keep a copy of the Federalist Papers by my bedside. I also can highly recommend Carl Becker's book on the Declaration of Independence, which shows the evolution and editing of that beloved text.

For true Americans—conservative, liberal, moderate, whatever—I am providing a link to the Declaration. Enjoy!

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm

Be scared chioldren...be... (Below threshold)
schulz:

Be scared chioldren...be very very scared...BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...and vote for me...cause they are coming......Jesus H people wake the F up....


This "Bush is a fear mongerer" claim is so stale, if I hear it one more time, I'm going to crumble it up and mix it into my salad.

You can choose to live your life in ignorant bliss, Muirgeo, and pretend that there are not people in this world who want to kill us - and that's all Americans, regardless of political party affiliation including me and you too, notwithstanding your hatred for Bush - but that won't change the fact (no matter how hard you try) that there are people in this world who want to kill us.

This is not "fear mongering", it is a very simple truth.

In fact, it is more than just true. It is painfully obvious. But it's not obvious to you because you keep hitting the snooze button and slipping back into your September 10th slumber.

Here's a thought for you and your fellow somnambulists: wake up, you're snooring.

mattyd --I want to... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

mattyd --

I want to second your appreciation for Lori for allowing other points of view. As a member of the loyal opposition who has been watching Lori's posts, she seems to me to be a fine, intelligent person who deserves our respect.

She's a responsible person who takes care of her family and tries to do what she feels is best. I disagree with her politically, but thorougly respect and admire her for her sincerity and intelligence.

There. I've said it and I'm glad.

That wasn't the only good p... (Below threshold)
George:

That wasn't the only good part of the press conference. Check this out.

The Constitution makes the ... (Below threshold)
eman:

The Constitution makes the President of the United States the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. The purpose of the Armed Forces is to protect the United States from all enemies foreign and domestic. Therefore the purpose of the POTUS is to lead that defense. The oath of office has no bearing on the actual physical defense of the United States except that all acts be in accordance with the Constitution. And, you know what, after the POTUS saves us from annihilation, I'll accept his or her explanation and apology for violating the oath of office. Only a fool would believe Bush is trying to make us believe the problem is worse than it really is. I guess four airliners is not enough for some people.

A question for jreid.... (Below threshold)
USSRangerDan:

A question for jreid.
When you refer to "Iraqis being slaughtered in every quarter of that country". Do you mean pre-invasion Islamic vs. Islamic slaughter, or post invasion Islamic vs. Islamic slaughter.

Pardon me for being a Redneck Redstater, but I have trouble keeping up with slaughter in the name of "peace".

I'm a God loving, infidel, pork eater. I love my Country.

Besides the fact that ya'll think booosh/haliburton/cheney/rove/loribyrd/wizbang (and of course, the joos) are behind every act of the world's problems.

That is well documented in the MSN (at least they try).

Killing EVIL DOERS... Sounds like a plan to me.

Do you have a problem with defending you and your's very way of life?

Eman - I agree wit... (Below threshold)
mattyd:

Eman -

I agree with you that one obligation of the federal government -- including the President -- is to protect the American people from threats.

But jreid has a very solid point that should be taken seriously by all Americans.

The founders saw to it that THE FUNDAMENTAL, FOUNDATIONAL obligation of the President is to preserve, protect and defend a DOCUMENT, and the ideas enshrined within.

You may shrug off that principle. And that's your right.

But keep in mind that doing so is, in the most basic sense, UN-American.

I think the President shoul... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

I think the President should have added this to the above mentioned quote.
"and again and again and again, until they, or their Evil History (I double dog dare a troll to question their evil
history) are on the scrapheap of history".

You're doing a great job Wizbang. I've been a lurker for years.

Thanks.

Posted by: USSRangerDan

RangerDan,


The fact that Bush scare talk sent "shivers down you spine"....sends shivers down MY spine. Are you really that easily manipulated?

Yes please tell of the threats from Islam to America prior to the year ...oh...lets say 1950...

WE ARE AT WAR PEOPLE! And t... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

WE ARE AT WAR PEOPLE! And this is a war of our outright survival.

Rovin


Hmm...I'm guessing because you heard that 1001 times on Rush and Sean that makes it so...."a war of our outright survival"???? JHC..UN-----REAL!!!.....if you weren't a real person I'd seriously think you were some character right out of an Orwell novel. Get a grip dude...your country needs you as it's being destroyerd from with-in.

Threats from Islam prior to... (Below threshold)
USSRangerDan:

Threats from Islam prior to 1950? HuH?

I guess my thoughts on Islam are clouded by current day events like, oh I can't seem to pinpoint it, so I'll just throw out some ROVE talking points.

Try this one out, it's one size fits all...

"Today, militants boarded several aircraft, and in a resounding victory, were able to take control. They were able to apply justice to thousands of infidels. This act was in the name of Allah (PBUH) and therefore holy.

Sound familar?

I agree that history is important. May I suggest you research 9/11/01?

Like Lorie, I was busy earl... (Below threshold)
VagaBond:

Like Lorie, I was busy earlier with domestic duties (which did not include spying).

Anyone who does not see IF as a threat is absolutley right. A threat implies no action taken. But action has been taken over and over and not only to the US Therefore, IF is an ENEMY to the United States. and to the world. It should have been clear with the kidnapping of that journalist and camerman. Covert or die. Did Daniel Pearl refuse? We will never know.

And Pub, as far as the Constitution goes, there is nothing in there about paying taxes or welfare either.

Rovin -WE ARE A... (Below threshold)
mattyd:

Rovin -

WE ARE AT WAR PEOPLE!

Very true.


And this is a war of our outright survival.

I haven't seen any evidence to support this.

eman -I appreciate... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

eman -

I appreciate your analysis of the Constitution. It does indeed give the president the role of commander in chief. It does not give him all war powers, however. Look more carefully and you'll see which war powers are the role of the legislative branch.

Because the war powers are distributed, it is the responsibility of the Congress AND the President to carry out their described roles related to the military which is outlined in the Constitution.

Another important responsibility of the president is to ensure that the laws passed by Congress which have become law are enforced.

The oath of office is included in the Constitution and highlights an important responsibility of the president—to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. This is not solely his responsibility—members of Congress bear the same responsibility.

The Constitution presents a brilliant division of power to try to ensure that no branch becomes too powerful; the founders wanted to ensure that a President doesn't become a new king.

Just out of curiosity, how ... (Below threshold)
The Listkeeper:

Just out of curiosity, how long did Clinton let that terrorist John Eric Rudolph run around before he caught him?

And Pub, as far as the Cons... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

And Pub, as far as the Constitution goes, there is nothing in there about paying taxes or welfare either.

Posted by: VagaBond


So then why are we paying massive taxes to support a war that is all about corporate welfare and welfare for easily frightened people?
The rich get tax cuts and your kids are born owing $36,000 in taxes.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/3/161820/4163

Man that baby is pissed!!

So then why are we paying m... (Below threshold)
VagaBond:

So then why are we paying massive taxes to support a war that is all about corporate welfare and welfare for easily frightened people?
The rich get tax cuts and your kids are born owing $36,000 in taxes.

We are paying massive taxes to support ALL government programs, war (defending the country) being the ONLY one that is directed by the Constitution. The rich get tax cuts because they pay the most taxes.

New to this link thing. try... (Below threshold)
VagaBond:

New to this link thing. try this.

VagaBond -And P... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

VagaBond -

And Pub, as far as the Constitution goes, there is nothing in there about paying taxes or welfare either.

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States
--
C'mon people; READ the Constitution! It's out there! It's not a state secret!

Lorie said: "This is The... (Below threshold)
Lee:

Lorie said: "This is The President I like to See"

Enjoy it while it lasts, Lorie. He's the last Republican U.S. President you will see for at least twenty years.

Listkeeper -Jus... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

Listkeeper -

Just out of curiosity, how long did Clinton let that terrorist John Eric Rudolph run around before he caught him?

Don't know the answer to that, but it's been 1828 days (and counting) since Bush swore he wouldn't rest until he brought bin Laden to justice. The President looked pretty well rested today, as he always does, though...

And Pub, as far as the Cons... (Below threshold)
Just John:

And Pub, as far as the Constitution goes, there is nothing in there about paying taxes or welfare either.

Posted by: VagaBond


"Welfare" is mentioned in the preamble:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Taxes and Welfare in Article 1, Section 8:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

I'm not sure what point vagabond was going for.
Showing his ignorance?

I guess the liberal meme of... (Below threshold)
JannyMae:

I guess the liberal meme of the week, in light of the 9/11 anniversary, is, "fearmongering."

Quite ironic in the face of the fearmongerers on their side of the aisle who claim that Bush is a fascist who is trying to establish a theocracy, despite all evidence to the contrary.

These trolls are really starting to bore me...

Enjoy it while it lasts,... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Enjoy it while it lasts, Lorie. He's the last Republican U.S. President you will see for at least twenty years.

Want to place money on this one, Lee?

Heck, the Dems don't have any shot in 2008.
-=Mike

Get a grip dude...your coun... (Below threshold)
Rovin:

Get a grip dude...your country needs you as it's being destroyerd from with-in.

Posted by: muirgeo

Muirgeo is almost right about the destruction from within......Blindness of the liberal mind, and out-right denial of reality.

Maybe your BDS will subside in time. One can only hope it's not too late for you to "grip that dude"

But I had some time to waste.......

1. Vagabond re: taxes and w... (Below threshold)
mattyd:

1. Vagabond re: taxes and welfare - wow! you got nailed by Publicus & Just John.

Now try saying there's no mention of a "Legislature".

2. Publicus - missed your earlier post about Lorie. Yes, well said. Even if I sometimes disagree with her, she's quite sharp and does a great job. Kudos to Lorie.

Publicus and Mattyd-<... (Below threshold)

Publicus and Mattyd-

Thanks for the kind words. You aren't just shining me up because you are planning on posting something deletable are you? :-)

But seriously, I love it when there are many different opinions and viewpoints expressd in the comments section. I don't like it when those opinions consist of "you are a moron" comments. Although we get those here more often than I would like, from both sides, there are some interesting and thoughtful discussions taking place, too.

Thanks to all of you that take the time to read and comment.

Lorie - you're welcome. And... (Below threshold)
mattyd:

Lorie - you're welcome. And thank YOU.


Having said that, I now find this extended pause of civility somewhat creepy.

Somebody say something obnoxious, quick.

Ranger Dan? VagaBond? Call someone a moonbat. This is awkward
:)

I always watched the great ... (Below threshold)
dr lava:

I always watched the great movie "Being There" with Peter Sellers and thought how hilarious it was. It's not so funny when it's played out in reality with millions interpreting Bushs' middle school ramblings as gospel. Read the transcript of the first question and Bushs' answer. You Bush submissives see inspired genius....the rest of the world sees Forrest Gumps dumber brother.

Bush will never capture Bin Laden just like he will never end abortion. Get rid of those 2 things and the GOP has NOTHING.

Would be nice to get rid of... (Below threshold)
Baggi:

Would be nice to get rid of those two things, that's for sure.

Would also be nice to have permanent tax cuts and more tax cuts. Would also be nice to have missle defense. Would be nice to get the judges confirmed. Would be nice to control the border. Cutting the spending, that would be nice too. A stable Iraq, that would be a good thing.

But yeah, looks like if we didn't have those two things, we would have nothing.

Lorie, you're a great addition to this blog, keep up the good work!

We are paying massive taxes... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

We are paying massive taxes to support ALL government programs, war (defending the country) being the ONLY one that is directed by the Constitution. The rich get tax cuts because they pay the most taxes.

Posted by: VagaBond


No sorry we are NOT paying taxes to support ALL government programs. Have you not heard of the $8 Trillion dollars of debt we owe? Most of that comes from Republican Presidents.

The Republicans actually make you believe you are getting a tax cut when in fact they are just spending MORE and borrowing MORE and borrowing from your children.

They are cowards because the easiest thing to do to look good while you are in office is cut taxes and increase spending and leave the mess for future generations/presidents.

Even worse they actually are cutting into programs that people like (like our National parks) while the increased spending goes mostly to more corporate welfare.

Any true fiscal conservative should be outraged at their economic policies but insted I guess many of you believe you actually recieved a tax cut.

Hey here I got $50 dollars for each of you but you have to spend it at my friend Tony's restaraunt and you have to buy your Medicines from this guy I know.....oh yeah and your kids each owe me $100 .....great deal huh? You get $50 dollars. Who wants their $50 dollars?

The rich get tax cuts becau... (Below threshold)
muirgeo:

The rich get tax cuts because they pay the most taxes.

Posted by: VagaBond


No the rich get tax cuts because they control elections/democracy, they control politicians/policy, they control markets (last thing they want are fair markets) and they control suggestable people like you with their vast mass media empire and fiscal power.

Oh by the way they also pay more taxes because they get most of the salary. And they get most of the salary/wealth holdings for the same reasons I outlined above explaining why they get tax cuts.

And with all this to their advantage they actually are able to get the common impressionable man like yourself to run around and parrot phrases supporting their efforts. Saying things like, "The rich get tax cuts because they pay the most taxes." Man they ARE good.

Interesting The Liberals o... (Below threshold)
vero:

Interesting The Liberals on this board, and every other board, say it isn't the job of the President to protect us.

I don't seem to recall, who did they blame for the 9/11 attacks again? just, like wondering.

vero -Interesti... (Below threshold)
Publicus:

vero -

Interesting The Liberals on this board, and every other board, say it isn't the job of the President to protect us.

I can't speak for others, but that's not what I said, nor is it my position. I pointed out that war powers are, in our Constitution, solely in the hands of the executive. I also point out that the president also has other powers and responsibilities.

I don't think the President is resonsible for 9/11...but it may or may not have been possible for him to prevent it given the information he had before the event. However, the President IS responsible for his ongoing response—or in the case of geting bin Laden, lack of response—in the aftermath of that tragedy.

And with all this to the... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

And with all this to their advantage they actually are able to get the common impressionable man like yourself to run around and parrot phrases supporting their efforts. Saying things like, "The rich get tax cuts because they pay the most taxes." Man they ARE good.

If you cut taxes 10% across the board, the guy who normally pays $100,00 a year in taxes will get a larger cut than the guy who pays $100 a year --- but he'll still pay a lot more.
-=Mike

Lori Bird, what exactly are... (Below threshold)
fourcats:

Lori Bird, what exactly are you thanking the president for...acting like a dictator?
Bush has already shown that his morality is not exactly based on christian principles. When ever Bush can he throws in words like compassion, decency and how his job is to protect the American people.
I am surprised Bush doesn't walk around wrapped in an american flag! He is such an arrogant SOB hypocrit! He uses words like it is unacceptable to think which really means he wants people to blindly follow whatever he says because even though he is as dumb as a rock he gets guidance from his higher father.
His abuse of the english language is pathetic which is why they really do not let him speak impromptu very often and rarely to a crowd that is not prescreened. As governor of Texas he mocked a woman who was in death row when she asked him for clemency. That really showed how much class he had.
His main job is to uphold the constitution which he does not seem to have much regard for.
As far as the war in Iraq, he started the damn thing so how can he say he did not ask for it. As the top man he is expected to make decisions based on using the intelligence of the scholars and lawyers he has to advise him. Instead he ignores their advice as he ignored the advice of Colin Powell.
Terrorist have been causing problems for thousands of years around this world. Bush acts like he is the first person to ever have to deal with a terrorists and he repeats it over and over again in case you forget.
He says, "we will give our folks the tools necessary to protect the country." It is a shame that he forgot to give the soldiers in Iraq the right equipment such as helmets and armed vehicles. Boy, Bush sure talks a good game doesn't he? Too bad for him that there are videos of all the things he promises that he never delivers.

It's a dangerous world, he says, and under his leadership it has become more dangerous. Our allies have not helped us because he has managed to alienate them with his diplomatic smugness.
Clinton left Bush with a lot of information on the terrorist and Bush chose to ignore most of it because he knew better. Even his father told him not to invade Iraq but Bush thought he had god on his side so it would be a cake walk. A person who ignores their own mistakes is bound to repeat them.
Bush had everyone with him after 911 and he quickly showed them who was boss. Now most of the world hates us and can you blame them?
He is the first president to stress one religion over another and he talks about the ideology of the Middle East as being a problem. Why did this country allow so many missionaries to go into Iraq to try and convert them if ideology is a problem. I guess it is only a problem if it is the ideology of the other side and everone knows how perfect christianity is expecially for the born again like Bush.
Bush does not know how to listen, he only knows how to preach and insult people. Look at the way that he treats people or reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like? He is so use to speaking to very selective audiences that when intelligent people ask him reasonable question he uses his tough guy tone to shut them up. After all he is the decider and knows what is best. What a joke, a big f--king joke.
Bush is afraid that if the democrats come into power in November that they will hold Bush responsible for all the laws he has ignored or broken. But he did them to protect the MERR CON
pee pull. Yah, that's what he did....


I tried to get through that... (Below threshold)
Lorie Byrd:

I tried to get through that entire comment, fourcats, but when I got to the part about criticizing Bush's abuse of the English language, after struggling through your treatment of the English language in the first part of the comment, I had a hard time continuing. Sorry. Maybe I will try again later.

Lorie, you didn't miss much... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Lorie, you didn't miss much. The usual "Bush blew the goodwill the world had for us after 9/11" tripe and a theory on Bush wanting to bring about the End of Times.

It's amusing to see people with no thought condemning Bush as an idiot.
-=Mike




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