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Rangel and Pelosi Denounce Chavez "Devil" Comments

I join Jay at Stop the ACLU in applauding Charlie Rangel's denunciation of Hugo Chavez' comments referring to President Bush as "the devil." From Rangel's website:

I want to express my extreme displeasure with statements by the President of Venezuela attacking U.S. President George Bush in such a personal and disparaging way during his remarks at the United Nations General Assembly.

It should be clear to all heads of government that criticism of Bush Administration policies, either domestic or foreign, does not entitle them to attack the President personally.

George Bush is the President of the United States and represents the entire country. Any demeaning public attack against him is viewed by Republicans and Democrats, and all Americans, as an attack on all of us.

I feel that I must speak out now since the Venezuelan government has been instrumental in providing oil at discounted prices to people in low income communities who have suffered increases in rent as heating oil prices have risen sharply. By offering this benefit to people in need, Venezuela has won many friends in poor communities of New York and other states. I am surprised that American oil companies have not stepped up to provide that kind of assistance to the poor.

Venezuela's generosity to the poor, however, should not be interpreted as license to attack President Bush. Those who take issue with Bush Administration policies have no right to attack him personally. It was not helpful when President Bush referred to certain nations as an "axis of evil." Neither is it helpful for a head of state to use the sacred halls of the United Nations to insult President Bush.

Yeah, he also attacked the evil oil companies and equated Bush's "axis of evil" comment with the "devil" one, but I still give him credit for the statement. Nancy Pelosi spoke out as well.
"Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern day Simon Bolivar but all he is an everyday thug," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said at a news conference, referring to Chavez' comments in a U.N. General Assembly speech on Wednesday.

"Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had, speaking at the United Nations," said Pelosi, a frequent Bush critic. "He demeaned himself and he demeaned Venezuela."

Now if they could only apply the same standard to their own comments and to those of their friends on the left.

Update: Scared Monkeys has it exactly right in their hilarious comparison of Rangel and Pelosi to characters in Animal House.

Update II: Mac's not buying "Charlie's jive."

Not all Democrats denounced Chavez.

More from John Hawkins.


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The Democrats realized that... (Below threshold)
Mike:

The Democrats realized that Chavez's rhetoric sounded much like their own and that this put them in worse than usual company. Basically, they're trying to distance themselves from... themselves.

Lorie, You're to b... (Below threshold)
Rob:

Lorie,

You're to be commended for bringing this to light. Appropriate acts from the left are not usually featured on right wing blogs and vice versa but rather swept under the carpet. I think your choice in posting this will help contour some opinions of some of your readers who think all democrats revere this populist psychcopath, which is far from the truth.

The fact that the statements were made in the first place highlights that notion that we're all Americans first and that are destinies are intertwined regardless of what side of the aisle we reside.

Chavez -the new hero of the... (Below threshold)
Rory:

Chavez -the new hero of the Chomsky book buying Left-as evidenced by the comments they left here yesterday-is more than just a thug as Nancy Pelosi calls him.

Here are some of his "doings" according to Human Rights Watch-

The circumstances strongly suggest that these were political killings," said José Miguel Vivanco, executive director of the Americas Division of Human Rights Watch. "The government must launch a prompt and impartial investigation into this vicious crime, and must guarantee the safety of the reported witness to the killings."

Darwin Arguello, an army soldier, Angel Salas, a navy corporal, and Félix Pinto, an airman, were reportedly abducted together in Caracas during the night of February 15. The following day, police discovered Pinto's body and that of a twenty-eight-year-old woman, Zaida Perozo López, close to a highway in the state of Miranda, some forty kilometers east of Caracas.

The bodies of Arguello and Salas were discovered nearby a day later. All four had been bound, gagged with tape and shot repeatedly.

A fourteen-year-old girl, whose name has not been revealed, is believed to have witnessed at least one of the killings and to have been shot and left for dead. She is recovering in a hospital.

Arguello, Salas, and Pinto had joined a protest by dissident military officers against the Chávez government and had participated in opposition gatherings in the Plaza Altamira, a square where anti-Chávez activists have been camped for more than three months. Zaida Perozo is also reported to have frequentedthe square.

This is the kind of animal the Left blogosphere is cheering, and who the Hollyood activist like Danny Glover appears with today.

Danny Glover is clueless but this who the Left allows to be their leaders.

Hollywood.

I wouldn;t pat them on the ... (Below threshold)
Paul:

I wouldn;t pat them on the back too hard...

Mike nailed it above.

All Chavez did is make Bush's critics look like loons. The Dems realize they get hit more than Bush.

Mike....true dat.I... (Below threshold)
VagaBond:

Mike....true dat.

If Howard Dean had made the same comments, Pelosi and Rangle would have been silent.

Why are they condemning his... (Below threshold)
Sopes:

Why are they condemning his "free speech" we so love? His criticism may be harsh and beligerant, but when Charlie and Pelosi start telling him "you don't criticize my president" then all you can say is hypocrite to those two. Chavez is a world leader and how crazy he may sound he has the right to voice his opinion. Pelosi and Charlies calling for him to be shut up is ridiculous.

How can you applaude them? ... (Below threshold)
UncleZeb:

How can you applaude them? It is their own statements that have made this acceptable and has helped create the anti USA attitude. The Dems are despicable (sp?) cowards.

Sopes:Why... (Below threshold)
Heralder:

Sopes:

Why are they condemning his "free speech" we so love? His criticism may be harsh and beligerant,

It's your right to urinate in your pants at the dinner table but that doesn't mean you should.

The man can and will say anything he wants. The criticism is largely because of the platform he used to do it. We all know the man can't keep his mouth shut for the rest of the year, but when you're at the UN speaking, it is not the time to start airing petty personal greivances and personally attacking heads of state.
Do you equate the whole axis of evil thing to personally calling someone the devil while crossing yourself? If so, you're wrong.

OK, fine. Great. It's about... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

OK, fine. Great. It's about time.

So when do they get their constiuents to stop calling him "Hitler", "fascist", "McChimpie", "Frat Boy", "Bushitler", "Bushshitter", "Dictator-in-Cheif" , "Chimp-in-Chief", "Monkey In A Suit", "Appointed Doofus", "George W. Fusterluck", "Failure in Theif" and other disrespectful and juevenile monikers.

And WTF is it with monkeys that amuses liberals so much? Talk about beating a dead cliche into a dead horse. Funny once, but not funny the next 6000 times...sheesh.

Chavez/Glover to open new c... (Below threshold)
Todd:

Chavez/Glover to open new chain of Harlem 'Jiggy Lube' service stations!

Well they added the stipula... (Below threshold)

Well they added the stipulation that (paraphrase), "hey hey hey, only we can insult our president, you can't do that!"

Regardless, I at least applaud them for standing up to Chavez, which seems against the party line.

Chavez is a jerk.Cal... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Chavez is a jerk.
Calling our President the devil is wrong.

Now. Let's hear it from the Right about Cheney calling anyone against the Iraq War an appeaser.

UncleZeb,And Repub... (Below threshold)
Robert:

UncleZeb,

And Republicans hate (sp?) America.

Wow. Throwing out nonsense statements without justification is easy.

Thanks for pointing the way UncleZeb.

Oddly enough, I can't seem ... (Below threshold)
b:

Oddly enough, I can't seem to find any comments by Jimmy Carter regarding Chavez' virulent diatribe. How peculiar that the former president who "certified" Hugo Chavez' election, would remain silent while Fidel Castro's latest understudy publicly castigates a sitting US president.

Robert:Clearly, ma... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Robert:

Clearly, many, many people on the Left ARE appeasers. They offer aid and comfort to the enemy with their words and actions and that empowers them, it makes them think they have a chance and that they are just in their cause. Therefore, the definition of appeaser fits.

My grandpa always said, "Gi... (Below threshold)
Clay:

My grandpa always said, "Give credit where credit is due". I don't care what motivated Rangel and Pelosi to do the right thing, I just care that they did the right thing. My hat's off to them...for now.

Peter F.So what do... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Peter F.

So what do you call the many, many people on the Right? The ones that make believe things are going well in Iraq. Are these people cheerleaders (like their President was in college) for a lost cause?

Also "aid and comfort". Explain.
How is being against a senseless war that has killed tens of thousands of people give "aid and comfort" to our enemies?
Is this physical "aid"?
How does someone like me give "comfort" to the enemy?
Am I swabbing their wounds? (I'm not.)

You might be one of those jeniuses (sic) who only see things in black and white.

I assume you support our troops.
I understand some troops have been rogue and have raped a 14-year old Iraqi and killed her family.
Would your support for the troops lend "aid and comfort" to child-rapists and murderers?
Is your aim to empower these child-rapists and murderers?
Is this something you are proud of?

Finally, have you thought that someone like me, who is against this war, might be giving our enemies a false sense of security?

I might be setting them up for a big fall.
In this sense I am doing more for our cause than you. (As a liberal, I also don't have a big problem paying my taxes. This helps America in its fight against its enemies.)
Can you say the same?
If not, why not?

Peter F., why do you hate America?

I hate america beacause peo... (Below threshold)
Jeff Feagles:

I hate america beacause people like Robert are allowed to live. He should be murdered.

Jeff,That's why I ... (Below threshold)
Robert:

Jeff,

That's why I think America is great.

Kisses all around for the good old US of A!!!

Robert is another example o... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Robert is another example of the total corruption of the liberal left. They take every opportunity to smear the US military and the country that gives them the freedom to spout their despicable rhetoric. I don't see such hatred towards dictators like Chavez. He actually said what the liberals said about Bush all the times: that Bush is Hitler and blood-thirsty.

Robert exhibits such an intellectual corruption that he would use moral equivalence about Cheney using the word appeaser and the left 's using the word Hitler to describe Bush.

The liberal left is so despicable in their behavior that they don't even know it.

Do you understand what peop... (Below threshold)
Jeff Feagles:

Do you understand what people like you have brought me to? The thought that you would die a violent death and have your hopes, dreams and future be extinguished forever, only makes me happy. Because to me you are worse than an enemy, you are subhuman. And I don't mean just you, I mean everyone of the trolls and posers from the left that post their idiotic comments. You are all nothing but trash.

JEff, I simply wish... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

JEff,
I simply wish Robert has the intellectual honesty and integrity to move to the liberal paradise in Ven or the Islamic utopia of Iran. It must be better than George Bush 's AMerica according to these people 's rhetoric.

Decent American would show outrage at the despicable behavior of the liberal left.

Robert: I am no ch... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Robert:

I am no cheerleader for Bush. I didn't even vote for the man in 2000, but I did in 2004.

When you elevate events like Abu Ghraib beyond their actual importance and role in a war; when you demonize the U.S. military and U.S. leadership in public so that it appears across Al Jazeera's TV screens; when you know that your enemy uses the opinions and words by many U.S. journalists to justify their murder of innocents; when you call for the immediate withdrawl of all troops from a theater of operations and war when that pullout would be seen as victory in the enemy's eyes (see Hezbollah's reaction to Israel's pullout recently); when you demonstate in US and European streets waving the flags of Hezbollah and Hamas; when you have movies like 'Fahrenheit 9/11" that are shown in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine, Jordan, Yemen and call the President a liar; when you undermine and seek to neuter the greatest weapon we have in the war—intelligence and the means and ways in which we gather it—and expose them publically to the world...all of this and much more is providing "aid and comfort" to the enemy. It is not necessarily a physical aid, but a mental one, which often far more important in helping an army or militia to succeed. In short, your propaganda makes yo an appeaser to the enemy, plain and simple.

Would your support for the troops lend "aid and comfort" to child-rapists and murderers? Is your aim to empower these child-rapists and murderers?Is this something you are proud of?

Absolutely not. It is disgusting and vile. But I am not going to pretend that they are representative of the US military as a whole nor am I going to focus on it as it only serves to diminish the greater good of the cause. For them, justice will be served, both here and the afterlife.

How the hell you are giving our enemies "a false sense of security" I can't even begin to explain. So you'll have to do it for me. And just WHAT "big fall" are you setting them up for? A scrutinizing visit with Dr. Phil?

If you're tryiing to infer that I don't pay my taxes, then I'd like my 5K check I sent to the IRS back in February.

And Robert, you're last question is just plain Dumb.

Peter F.You have t... (Below threshold)
Rory:

Peter F.

You have the patience of a saint.

Thank you, Rory. Doubling m... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Thank you, Rory. Doubling my blood pressure medicine helps. lol.

"Why are they condemning hi... (Below threshold)
Eric:

"Why are they condemning his "free speech" we so love? His criticism may be harsh and beligerant, but when Charlie and Pelosi start telling him "you don't criticize my president" then all you can say is hypocrite to those two. Chavez is a world leader and how crazy he may sound he has the right to voice his opinion. Pelosi and Charlies calling for him to be shut up is ridiculous."

Aren't you now doing the same thing to Pelosi and Rangel? Aren't you now telling them that they shouldn't be practicing their right to free speech?

Your right to free speech doesn't protect you from someone else's right to free speech. Your right to free speech is protected from the government taking it away from you!

Jeff Feagles said: "I hate ... (Below threshold)
Eric:

Jeff Feagles said: "I hate america beacause people like Robert are allowed to live. He should be murdered."

Jeff seek help. That is totally uncalled for. You are letting someone else's opinion get to you too much. This is not the DU.

I think both of the speache... (Below threshold)
Scrapiron:

I think both of the speaches by the idiots served a great purpose. Now at least some of the American people know that President Bush has been trying to tell them the truth about the danger the U.S. is facing, from the mental retards that have taken over several countries by force, but couldn't get it out because the antique MSM sides with the terrorist and lies to the American public.

Talk about disrespect, just a few minutes ago the idiot Sheppard Smith (FOX) refered to President Bush as Bush, a total disrespect not of the man, but off the office of the President of the United States, But he always refers to President Clinton. The democrats all do the same thing. Guess that's why I quit the democratic party and no longer have any respect for anyone that votes for them. We have a sorry bunch of anti-americans in the media and the democratic party that are educated beyond their ability to handle the education. What one would call educated idiots.

I agree that the words that... (Below threshold)
Clay:

I agree that the words that flow from the mouths of many liberals are childish and downright mean-spirited. But, today Pelosi and Rangel said the right thing...They said the right thing and I aim to tell them so.

Peter F.-LOL!<... (Below threshold)
Rory:

Peter F.-
LOL!

Well ya-since I don't have blood ressure meds-I'm off to go get a beer.

Thanks for taking on the impossible...

You Americans are living in... (Below threshold)

You Americans are living in a life of fear, Can't see the forrest for the tree's Ahy?...Its amazing to me that those who own a computer and who answered CTV poll September 21, 2006 have placed their own fears of security well ahead of Aids and Poverty. Congratulations to mainstream media for setting our priorities in tune to the Conservative Governments agenda. You cant make money on sick people and the poor. But hey look at the bucks we can get by promoting fear. (god we have it too easy) I guess the poor will just have to wait while we spend more money on weapons to appease our paranoid fears. and the sick, well try a prayer...


What should be the UN General Assembly's top priority this week?

Peace and security
8906 votes
(72 %)

AIDS and other epidemics
687 votes
(6 %)

Poverty issues
1202 votes
(10 %)

Global warming
1562 votes
(13 %)

Total Votes: 12357

Whats your prioritys?

Ok, on "aid and comfort" (a... (Below threshold)
mantis:

Ok, on "aid and comfort" (and no, I'm not on Robert's side here), a few questions

When you elevate events like Abu Ghraib beyond their actual importance and role in a war;

Does this preclude all discussion of Abu Ghraib etc, or just the elevating of such events above their importance? What level of importance do they achieve?

when you demonize the U.S. military and U.S. leadership

Is all criticism "demonization" or just some kinds? Is criticizing the civilian leadership (e.g. elected officials and their appointees), but not the military whose job is merely to complete the mission, better or the same?

in public so that it appears across Al Jazeera's TV screens; when you know that your enemy uses the opinions and words by many U.S. journalists to justify their murder of innocents;

They also use the words and opinions of President Bush, Sec. Rumsfeld, etc. Are they aiding and comforting the enemy?

when you call for the immediate withdrawl of all troops from a theater of operations and war when that pullout would be seen as victory in the enemy's eyes (see Hezbollah's reaction to Israel's pullout recently);

Well, first of all they consider everything a victory; in their fight there is no outcome that would be labelled a defeat. Secondly, can you discuss withdrawal without aiding and comforting the enemy, if that withdrawal is not immediate?

when you demonstate in US and European streets waving the flags of Hezbollah and Hamas;

I didn't know we were at war with Hezbollah or Hamas, except maybe rhetorically. If we were we would have troops in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. In any case, only very marginal groups with no real impact or audience wave their flags in public in this country. Do you believe that everyone who opposes the Iraq war does this?

when you have movies like 'Fahrenheit 9/11" that are shown in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine, Jordan, Yemen and call the President a liar;

All your talk about journalists and filmmakers makes me believe you wish all media in this country would merely act as propaganda outlets for the military. Of course you don't think the government should make them do so, but that they should anyway. Interesting view of national discourse you must have.

Or maybe they when you undermine and seek to neuter the greatest weapon we have in the war—intelligence and the means and ways in which we gather it—and expose them publically to the world...

Now, are illegal intelligence practices neutered simply by virtue of their exposure, or because they can then be subjected to review in the courts (as the NSA wiretapping now is)? Or is it because now the terrorists know we're gathering intelligence on them (big shock to them, I'm sure)?

all of this and much more is providing "aid and comfort" to the enemy.

Is there any dissent or public disagreement with the government's foreign policy and/or military's execution which does not constitute "aid and comfort" in your mind?

And lastly, do you actually believe the enemy would be any less resolute in their cause if Americans did not do any of the things you listed above? Do you really believe they get their strength from the words of Cindy Sheehan, the films of Michael Moore, or the pages of the NYTimes? If those people were silent, or even better, supported the administration and the war, would the terrorists just give up and go home?

Does this preclude all d... (Below threshold)
Peter F.:

Does this preclude all discussion of Abu Ghraib etc, or just the elevating of such events above their importance? What level of importance do they achieve?

No, certainly not. The NYTimes, WaPo and many, many other news outlets spent an extraoridnary and inordinate amount of ink to its coverage. It was NOT nearly important as, say, where is the source of the insurgency, for example.

Is all criticism "demonization" or just some kinds? Is criticizing the civilian leadership (e.g. elected officials and their appointees), but not the military whose job is merely to complete the mission, better or the same?

To extent, no. Yet the volume of critisism has been so high, so disproportionate, so virtrolic and hateful that it is a form of demonization.'

They also use the words and opinions of President Bush, Sec. Rumsfeld, etc. Are they aiding and comforting the enemy?

Yes, they do. However, the Left words and pilfer from their veiws far more readily. (And I'd love to get and give examples but, frankly, AI'm tired at the moment.)

Do you believe that everyone who opposes the Iraq war does this?

Again, trying to corner me into a generalization. No, but far too many of them do.

I didn't know we were at war with Hezbollah or Hamas, except maybe rhetorically.

Proxy armies of Iran and Syria who feed the insurgency in Irag. Hardly rhetorical.

Is there any dissent or public disagreement with the government's foreign policy and/or military's execution which does not constitute "aid and comfort" in your mind?

When it comes to the defense of my country, the safety of the men and women currently in country at war, no. IF, however, you have a suggestion(s) for a better way WIN, then by all means, shout it out.

And lastly, do you actually believe the enemy would be any less resolute in their cause if Americans did not do any of the things you listed above?

yes, actually, I do. I believe if more of the Left stood up and said, "hey, we're tired of you beheading and killing innocent people in the name of your religion and we're not gonna take it any more.." (or something that gave the appearance that you were actually supporting the government isntad of bashing it every five seconds) then, yes, they might be less resolute, they might fear us a little more, they might feel the world is against them. Which it should.

Cindy Sheehan is a puppet of ANSWR and other anti-war leftists and holds not clout, except among the slobbering US media.

If those people were silent, or even better, supported the administration and the war, would the terrorists just give up and go home?

You're either being a smart ass or this is just a really dumb question or you forgot that rhetorical sentence don't include periods at the end. In any case, none of thse deserves a repsonse.

And no, I'm not responding to another post.I'm done for the day. You and Robert can have it. Somebody else can take my place. I need a beer.

1) Bush isn't Hitler and b... (Below threshold)
Robert:

1) Bush isn't Hitler and blood-thirsty. He's rich. And he wants what all rich people want. More.

2) Jeff,
Such hatred. I've read that the Liberals are full of hate (unlike the Right who are just full of fear--and it). Are you really a Liberal?

3) Peter F.,
So using the big brush to paint all Muslims as violent fanatics and all those who think this war is a colossal waste of time and resources as appeasers is Ok, but don't you dare paint all soldiers as rapists.
I'm not against our soldiers.
I was just pointing out how stupid it is to use the big brush as you have done.
Thanks for catching on.

Also, it's not like I told the insurgents who are fighting our brave soldiers to "bring it on". Only a fuckin' moron would say that. Agreed?

I GLADLY pay my taxes.

4) mantis,
Thank you (even if you aren't on my side).

Peace and security... (Below threshold)

Peace and security
8906 votes
(72 %)

Funny how when peace and security are realized what often follws is greater economic growth, creativity, invention and design, medical research, development and implementation, etc.

So yeah, what's wrong with wanting peace and security first? Why would it be better to keep throwing money at a situation when it only lasts as long as it takes for the next group of thugs and kleptocrats to come in and wrest it from those who are intended to benefit from it?

Meh.

And now the actual "on-topic" comment:

As far as Rangel and Pelosi. I'm glad they said what they said, but after all the vitriol they've spewed for years now it hardly balances the scale.

mantis, Again not h... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

mantis,
Again not here to spin for the Dems, but his actions betray his words as usual. Mantis should know between criticism and calling the US military Nazis, Bush Hitler etc...
Discussion about Abhu Graib is different from using it as a propaganda tool for the terrorists. The liberal enablemnent of people like Chavez and Adh. of Iran is beyond contemptible. Mantis should know better but he is not intellectually honest enough to admit who he is (a liberal spinner).

Robert1) Bush isn't ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Robert
1) Bush isn't Hitler and blood-thirsty. He's rich. And he wants what all rich people want. More.
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Is this a projection of the filthy rich liberals like Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer?

Thanks for admitting the despicable behavior of the liberal left that spins for evil dictators like Chavez and Adm while calling Bush Hitler. Even more despicable is a major party like the Dem party would enable people like Michael Moore, Clinton, Carter, Sheehan, who embraced rich dictators like Chavez and Castro again.


Also, it's not like I told ... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Also, it's not like I told the insurgents who are fighting our brave soldiers to "bring it on". Only a fuckin' moron would say that. Agreed?
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Oh, then a liberal like you would say, "please leave us alone, we mean no harm" or "we will convert to Islam if you want us too".

Using your own lingo, only a f* moron would make moral equivalency of Chavez calling Bush a devil and Cheney calling liberal enablers of the terrorists appeasers. Do you agree?

BTW, looks like you agree that the behavior of the modern left wrt the terrorists are despicable and beyond contempt. Yup, the liberal left is willing sucking up to the filthy rich like George Soros and Hollywood rich while hyprocritically talking about the poor.

LoveAmerica Idiot - glad to... (Below threshold)
Lee:

LoveAmerica Idiot - glad to see you back from rehab - hope it sticks this time. Your past rantings smelled of cheep beer and wine.

Both Chavez and Cheney are lying morons who will play whatever card necessary for political gain. Liberals aren't apologizing for Chavez's stupidity - and yet conservatives keep kissing Cheney's *ss. Amazing.

Lee/Mantis/Robert continue ... (Below threshold)
Mitchell:

Lee/Mantis/Robert continue to be dumb asses. What's new?

You guys are so petty, it's amazing. No hopes, no dreams, no risking for something better. Just cowering in your little corner of the world, hoping that bad old boogey man, Dick Cheney, leaves those poor little dictators alone.

So you can bury your heads in the sand, and your asses in the air, for a right good buggering.

Good for both Rangel and Pe... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Good for both Rangel and Pelosi. They did the right thing.
-=Mike

Lee, You are the pr... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

Lee,
You are the prime example of the despicable behavior of the left. Using Robert 's lingo, only a f* moron would compare Cheney and Chavez. But the liberal left is beyond contempt and you are a prime example of it.

Yup, the liberals aren't apologizing for Chavez 's stupidity, but they apologizing and providing cover for Chavez thuggish regime. What was Carter doing with Chavez and how about your hero Cindy sheehan.

No decent American should support the corrupt Dem party anymore.

MOre evidence of the libera... (Below threshold)
LoveAmerica Immigrant:

MOre evidence of the liberal despicable behavior: try to screw the Kurds, one of the most oppressed people in the ME. At the same time, they have been doing their utmost to provide cover for the worst dictators in the world like Ahm, Chavez, Castro.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008975
It certainly sounds to us as though the BBC, far from merely reporting the facts, is pandering to Arab anti-Semitism and making an active effort to promote discord in Iraq and retribution against the long-persecuted Kurds. Such despicable behavior doesn't deserve the label "journalism."

I'm Canadian and am persona... (Below threshold)
Alden:

I'm Canadian and am personally offended by Chavez. The price of preserving and promoting freedom is being called the Devil, while Chavez is trying to make himself appear as a righteous Christian. How can he call himself Christian when he attempts to align himself and his country with a fierce anti freedom movement attitude. He bashes the American President and claims to support Americans. He forgets that Bush is elected by the people regardless of his current approval ratings. Chavez hated him when Bush had > 50% of the popular vote! Hipocrate, full of hate and pro-Iran, pro-North Korea. Who's devilish. America is a symble of freedom. Bush is simply doing what he believes is best to protect America, Americans and freedom.

Lee blurted out:<blo... (Below threshold)
Mike:

Lee blurted out:


Both Chavez and Cheney are lying morons [snip]

How utterly laughable that in a post about Rangel condeming Chavez's personal attacks on Bush that you launch your own personal attacks. Your grade school mentality is ingrained, isn't it. Thanks for making my point.

I think you need a new pres... (Below threshold)

I think you need a new president in the United States. His approval rating is falling into an abyss, pardon the pun.

His approval rating is f... (Below threshold)
Clay:

His approval rating is falling into an abyss

You must've been in a cave this week. According to the latest USA Today/Gallup poll, the President's numbers are rebounding. Sucks huh?

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060919/2006-09-19T054341Z_01_N19339744_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-BUSH-POLL-DC.html

BTW, a majority of people p... (Below threshold)
Clay:

BTW, a majority of people polled did not say the war in Iraq was a mistake. That really sucks, huh?

There you guys go again-bei... (Below threshold)
jhow66:

There you guys go again-being mean to old "pucker puss"(lee lee ). You are going to keep on until you make him feel unwanted. Poor "thing".

Chavez excercised his free ... (Below threshold)

Chavez excercised his free speech. Any "President" that uses their position to commit the attrocities for which Bush jnr has facilitated, does not deserve respect and anyone that believes that his office puts his personal choices and decisions above reproach, has a skewed historical view of democracy.

If someone said "Hitler is an asshole" most people, including many Germans, would agree. Saying the same thing about a president that went to war over what has been addmitted as lies, with a people that have never attacked us, isn't an attack on America, it's calling a spade a spade.

The other main problem with the "devil" refrence is that most "whiteys" didn't get the tongue in cheek latin-american humour.

Chavez excercised his fr... (Below threshold)
MikeSC:

Chavez excercised his free speech.

A right he holds alone in Venezuela, mind you.

Any "President" that uses their position to commit the attrocities for which Bush jnr has facilitated, does not deserve respect and anyone that believes that his office puts his personal choices and decisions above reproach, has a skewed historical view of democracy.

Ironically, Bush doesn't believe that.

Clinton did. Bush does not.

Funny how that works.
-=Mike

Chavez is certainly no one ... (Below threshold)
isabella:

Chavez is certainly no one to write home about but...Bush *IS* the devil. I don't understand why his critics are so bent out of shape over this? It seems okay for them to make desparaging comments but when someone else (ie: Chavez) does, it's not. The bottom line is that Bush has done a fair amount of screwing up the planet and relations with just about everyone, so why is everyone so offended that he would be called on it? And no, I am most definately not a democrat or independant.




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