Read it here. Allahpundit makes a good point that you may want to save the document on your hard drive because once Drudge links to it, it will be very difficult to access.
Update: If you have a hard time accessing the document at the DNI's site, you can get it here.
Lorie adds: I read the report, then read this AP report which mischaracterizes the NIE in an almost laughable way. The AP report picks the same section of the report that was leaked to help Democrats, the part which was reported and discussed for days, and ignores the rest of the report. Predictable. Sad, but predictable. Read the report. I say that to Democrats and Republicans alike, liberals and conservatives. Read if for yourself if you want to be informed. The AP is certainly not going to do it for you.
As for the "cause celebre" point they pick up on, if some of those currently helping the terrorists with their PR effort by equating them with the U.S. military would quit, much of that problem would be solved.
Musing Minds picks out a few portions of the report the Democrats won't be mentioning.
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"If this tren... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Lee | September 26, 2006 5:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It is time to vote these Republican clowns out of office.
1. Posted by Lee | September 26, 2006 5:41 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 17:41
2. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 5:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And if we want to spend time tossing blame around, there is plenty of ammunition in there to throw around. If we instead want to assess how the strategy is working, and what we need to consider in the fight to decrease global terrorism, this is a very important part:
Four underlying factors are fueling the spread of the jihadist movement: (1)
Entrenched grievances, such as corruption, injustice, and fear of Western
domination, leading to anger, humiliation, and a sense of powerlessness; (2) the
Iraq jihad; (3) the slow pace of real and sustained economic, social, and
political reforms in many Muslim majority nations; and (4) pervasive anti-US
sentiment among most Muslims--all of which jihadists exploit.
2. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 5:42 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 17:42
3. Posted by muirgeo | September 26, 2006 5:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee,
And that's the stuff they selectively let us see...imagine the rest.....I agree no more clowns. They're funny but in a deadly destroy your military, economy and country sort of way.
3. Posted by muirgeo | September 26, 2006 5:53 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 17:53
4. Posted by jpm100 | September 26, 2006 6:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Imagine the stuff that NYT didn't want you to see
like this:
• The Iraq conflict has become the cause celebre for jihadists, breeding a deep resentment of US involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for the global jihadist movement. Should jihadists leaving Iraq perceive themselves, and be perceived, to have failed, we judge fewer fighters will be inspired to carry on the fight.
4. Posted by jpm100 | September 26, 2006 6:03 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:03
5. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Mantis,
Four underlying factors are fueling the spread of the jihadist movement: (1)
Entrenched grievances, such as corruption, injustice, and fear of Western
domination, leading to anger, humiliation, and a sense of powerlessness; (2) the
Iraq jihad; (3) the slow pace of real and sustained economic, social, and
political reforms in many Muslim majority nations; and (4) pervasive anti-US
sentiment among most Muslims--all of which jihadists exploit.
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Mantis,
Good point again, but you forgot that the left is advocating the very policies (like keeping Saddam in power, enabling terrorists like Arafat with political power, excusing Adm and the Iranian mullahs) that would exacebate these very problems. I posted a link how the BBC would publish a "who knows whether it is lie" report that Is helps the Kurds. This is to promote discord and civil war in Iraq against the Kurds, the most persecuted Arab people in the ME. This is despicable behavior.
Sorry that I forgot that you are here to spin fo r the liberals and Dems (your actions count more than your words). Since the liberals/Dems 's actions are so despicable that you have to spread the blame around to cover for them. So predictable a tactic. I haven't heard a word of condemnation of the selective leaking classified info by the NYT and the Dem plan to use this leaked report for the election drive.
If you and Lee are honest, you would offer an unequivocal condemnation of the Dems and conclude that they do not deserve to be elected.
5. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:06 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:06
6. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Chickenhawk liberals 's motto,
Fighting against the jihadists will make them mad. Time to cut and run. No wonder they are kissing up to the thuggish regimes in VEn and Iran.
True to form, the liberals support Clinton in his blatant lie on Fox. Why? Because Clinton was tough during his presidency against whom? Against the Branch Davidians at Waco (their fellow AMericans).
Muirego and Lee don't even know their own hypocrisy. They are happily posting the selectively leaked NIE report without a hint of outrage. At the same time, they are complaining about Bush 's selective release! Liberals are free to lie, but Bush cannot counter their lies. Amazing
6. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:11 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:11
7. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 6:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
LAI,
I was going to respond to your "points" but they are so muddled and incomprehensible that I don't really have a clue what you're talking about. I do like that you continue to claim my "actions count more than my words", when these "actions" you speak of are, in fact, my words. I can only conclude from this that my words count more than my words. Got it.
In short, how do you type with a straightjacket on?
7. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 6:12 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:12
8. Posted by muirgeo | September 26, 2006 6:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If you and Lee are honest, you would offer an unequivocal condemnation of the Dems and conclude that they do not deserve to be elected.
Posted by: LoveAmerica Immigrant
No I don't condemn the NYT because I support a free press. Only those who need the truth hidden do not support a free press preferring instead to support a secretive Orwellian administration who classifies things as secret based on expediency and dishonesty.
http://www.openthegovernment.org/
8. Posted by muirgeo | September 26, 2006 6:15 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:15
9. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 6:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Umm, help me out here. What exactly in the released report rebuts the leaked statements, as Bush claimed it would? What I see is:
United States-led counterterrorism efforts have seriously damaged the leadership of
al-Qa'ida and disrupted its operations; however...
And then 3.5 pages of negative results and suggested changes to improve results for the future. What I'd like to know is what steps has Bush taken to implement these recommendations he received 5 months ago? Or are they next in line after the 9/11 Commission recommendations?
9. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 6:21 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:21
10. Posted by Tony | September 26, 2006 6:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak. Lee, Muriego, Mantis...all we need is Hugh. The flacks are out in force this evening.
10. Posted by Tony | September 26, 2006 6:22 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:22
11. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
n short, how do you type with a straightjacket on?
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You should ask yourself that question.
11. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:26 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:26
12. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 6:28 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Good one. At least I can put together a coherent sentence.
12. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 6:28 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:28
13. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And then 3.5 pages of negative results and suggested changes to improve results for the future. What I'd like to know is what steps has Bush taken to implement these recommendations he received 5 months ago? Or are they next in line after the 9/11 Commission recommendations?
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I want to know what the liberal left has done in the last 5 years except leaking classified inform like NSA and NIE to aid the terrorists and make defending AMerica more difficult.
Muirego cannot bring himself to condemn a deliberate leak of classified info while in the last severals calling for a special investigation into the "leak" of Valerie Plame.
Mantis, I am still waiting for the condemnation of the NYT and the DEm party wrt this leak.
13. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:29 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:29
14. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Good one. At least I can put together a coherent sentence.
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Thanks for proving my point again that your typical tactic is to divert attention not to address the point. Good pretention.
14. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:30 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:30
15. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Mantis,
I think Lee is at least more honest than you in that he openly admits that he is here to spin for the Dems.
15. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:31 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:31
16. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 6:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I want to know what the liberal left has done in the last 5 years
LOL! This is so typical! You righties get all hot and bothered about some bad news about Bush, calling it a liberal lie, terrorist-helping treason, yadda yadda. But then when it turns out to be true, all you do is wipe it from your memories, spin around, and say Oh yeah? Well what have you lefties done?
Oh, I shouldn't let this surprise me anymore, but I guess I keep holding out hope.
16. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 6:49 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:49
17. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 6:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Thanks for proving my point again that your typical tactic is to divert attention not to address the point. Good pretention.
As you should know, I'm more than willing to discuss substantive points with the sane commenters on this site. Single-helix loons such as yourself, I normally ignore.
Btw, what's a pretention? And what was your "point" I'm supposed to address? I couldn't find one, just a bunch of incomprehensible rambling.
17. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 6:49 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:49
18. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 6:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Thanks for proving my point again that your typical tactic is to divert attention not to address the point. Good pretention.
Ooh, and we even have a little "pot, kettle" action going on here. It's fun seeing the scurrying as people actually read the report.
18. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 6:51 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:51
19. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Btw, what's a pretention? And what was your "point" I'm supposed to address? I couldn't find one, just a bunch of incomprehensible rambling.
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Pretention not to admit an obvious point: The NYT 's leak of classified information and the DEM plan to use it for election drive is despicable and deserve condemnation. The NIE report showed that this leak was a deliberate lie.
That 's why I am still waiting for your unequivocal condemnation of the NYT and the Dem party.
You don't want to address that point. That 's why you tried to distract attention and pretend not to understand it. Typical of you.
19. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:53 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:53
20. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 6:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Muirego cannot bring himself to condemn a deliberate leak of classified info
...
I am still waiting for the condemnation of the NYT and the DEm party wrt this leak.
So am I. I have requested in three different Wizbang threads for someone on the right to condemn this guy for leaking even more information than the NYT did. Not a single person will do it. Will you?
20. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 6:55 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:55
21. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
LOL! This is so typical! You righties get all hot and bothered about some bad news about Bush, calling it a liberal lie, terrorist-helping treason, yadda yadda. But then when it turns out to be true, all you do is wipe it from your memories, spin around, and say Oh yeah? Well what have you lefties done?
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Bush has liberated more than 50 million people and protected you from attacks in the last 5 years at least.
What have you on the liberal left done? Why are you so afraid of your positive accomplishments?
21. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 6:55 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 18:55
22. Posted by nogo postal | September 26, 2006 7:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Let's all agree on two things:
1)Bush was President on 9/11/01
2)Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq
That said here is a cut and paste
"The 9/11 Commission Report contradicts Rice's claims. On December 4, 1998, for example, the Clinton administration received a President's Daily Brief entitled "Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks." Here's how the Clinton administration reacted, according to the 9/11 Commission report:
The same day, [Counterterrorism Czar Richard] Clarke convened a meeting of his CSG [Counterterrorism Security Group] to discuss both the hijacking concern and the antiaircraft missile threat. To address the hijacking warning, the group agreed that New York airports should go to maximum security starting that weekend. They agreed to boost security at other East coast airports. The CIA agreed to distribute versions of the report to the FBI and FAA to pass to the New York Police Department and the airlines. The FAA issued a security directive on December 8, with specific requirements for more intensive air carrier screening of passengers and more oversight of the screening process, at all three New York area airports. [pg. 128-30]
On August 6, 2001, the Bush administration received a President's Daily Brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S." Here's how the Bush administration reacted, according to the 9/11 Commission report:
[President Bush] did not recall discussing the August 6 report with the Attorney General or whether Rice had done so.[p. 260]
We have found no indication of any further discussion before September 11 among the President and his top advisers of the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States. DCI Tenet visited President Bush in Crawford, Texas, on August 17 and participated in the PDB briefings of the President between August 31 (after the President had returned to Washington) and September 10. But Tenet does not recall any discussions with the President of the domestic threat during this period. [p. 262]"
and in case you forgot what that 8/6/01 briefing said..
http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/terrorism/80601pdb.pdf
22. Posted by nogo postal | September 26, 2006 7:00 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 19:00
23. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 7:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So am I. I have requested in three different Wizbang threads for someone on the right to condemn this guy for leaking even more information than the NYT did. Not a single person will do it. Will you?
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Typical dishonest defense of the NYT leaking NSA program. The jihadists already knew it. Selectively taking quotes out of context. Exactly what the NYT just did and you did exactly the same thing.
What have the liberal left done in the last 5 years except aiding the terrorists?
23. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | September 26, 2006 7:00 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 19:00
24. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 7:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ok, I'll keep playing since this is so amusing.
Pretention not to admit an obvious point:
Pretention, my friend, is not a word. Get a dictionary.
The NYT 's leak of classified information and the DEM plan to use it for election drive is despicable and deserve condemnation. The NIE report showed that this leak was a deliberate lie.
Which part was a lie? Did the NYT misquote the NIE? Care to back up this statement?
That 's why I am still waiting for your unequivocal condemnation of the NYT and the Dem party.
Hope springs eternal, friend.
You don't want to address that point.
That's not a point, it's a demand, and an idiotic one at that. There, I addressed it. Happy?
That 's why you tried to distract attention and pretend not to understand it. Typical of you.
But of course you're right. I was trying to distract attention away from your brilliant "point" that I should condemn a newspaper and political party for...some reason or other.
I started by talking about what this report means in the fight against terrorism and how our strategy is working (more extensively in a BombSquad post) and not working. You apparently wanted to (shock) distract from that to get into some silly partisan pissing match and demand condemnations from me. I'd much rather just make fun of you, unless you're interested in talking about how our strategy in fighting terrorism has its flaws and needs to be rethought. Fat chance there.
24. Posted by mantis | September 26, 2006 7:04 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 19:04
25. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 7:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bush has liberated more than 50 million people and protected you from attacks in the last 5 years at least.
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What have the liberal left done in the last 5 years except aiding the terrorists?
Thanks for proving my point again that your typical tactic is to divert attention not to address the point. Good pretention.
25. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 7:09 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 19:09
26. Posted by jp | September 26, 2006 7:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Bush and Karzi both made the Dems/Libs look like absolute fools again, just after Clinton did this over the weekend.
26. Posted by jp | September 26, 2006 7:13 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 19:13
27. Posted by Scrapiron | September 26, 2006 7:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
At least some people display more 'smarts' than Lee. They managed to read the entire four pages, well on my printer 3 pages and one paragraph. Lee as uaual only harps the KOS talking points.
The comedy of the entire thing is that it was a political ploy of the democrats that got shot to he** (as usual) when Slick Willie lost his cool and went totally whacko. The democrats reached into the local cess pool and got sucked into the city sewage processing plant. When will they get smart, run on the issues (that would require a plan the don't have) and quit burying themselves in sh** at every turn? The current democrats are a disgrace to the once proud party (I was a member for 30 years +), and have turned it into nothing more that a game of slime everyone. I still can't believe they pick people like Dimmy Carter, Algore, Slick Willie, Hanoi John, and howling Howie to lead the party, and then ally themselves with slime like KOS, DU, and the other anti-american slime balls. They are about as much the party of the american people as Islam is a religion of peace. They went dumpster diving simply because they couldn't win a few elections at the ballot box or by cheating and just keep digging deeper into the garbage and sewage. That indicates their real mental capacity. BDS has driven millions of them over the edge, but they weren't the sharpest pencils in the pack before GWB came on the scene.
27. Posted by Scrapiron | September 26, 2006 7:18 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 19:18
28. Posted by bill | September 26, 2006 7:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Anyone else notice that one of the things that would help is to kill Zarqawi ... done. Other al-qaida leaders, how about Omar al-Faruq, dead thanks to the Brits in Basra this week.
The strong horse, weak horse lesson comes through. Too bad Clinton proved he was the weak horse in Somalia and the al Qaida types used that to recruit a huge force that they stationed in Afghanistan.
Lessons from the past are always a good start when trying to predict the future.
28. Posted by bill | September 26, 2006 7:27 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 19:27
29. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | September 26, 2006 7:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee, Mantis, Muirego, Brian and anyone else on the wrong side of this issue. What part of it is illegal to leak classified documents escapes you? How many times are you and the scumbags on your side going to use illegal tactics to try to influence elections? Did you lops notice that report stated the need to get rid of Zarqawi? Been there, done that. Seems as though that report might need a little bit of upgrading. I have seen no count that indicates a growing movement towards terrorism, but I have seen that those terrorists who go to Iraq to fight have significantly shorter lives than those who do not. It is sad to see there are people as stupid as you four are in this country, but then you are democrats.
29. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | September 26, 2006 7:40 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 19:40
30. Posted by Fordrill | September 26, 2006 8:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Scrapiron,
I think that acid trip you took back in your youth never quite left you.
Lee, Mantis, Muirego, Brian,
Isn't the meltdown of these guys a riot? I'd be laughing if it weren't so tragic.
Keep up the good fight.
30. Posted by Fordrill | September 26, 2006 8:15 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 20:15
31. Posted by Clay | September 26, 2006 8:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee, Mantis, Muirego, Brian and anyone else on the wrong side of this issue...It is sad to see there are people as stupid as you four are in this country,
Not so much stupid as just downright pathetic. What's with the desperate need to be the first to comment? And on every post?
31. Posted by Clay | September 26, 2006 8:17 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 20:17
32. Posted by clay | September 26, 2006 8:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Isn't the meltdown of these guys a riot?
You're trying just a little bit too hard. Your desperation is showing.
32. Posted by clay | September 26, 2006 8:19 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 20:19
33. Posted by kirktoe | September 26, 2006 8:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actuall, if these idiots on the left will actually READ the entire first page of the document they would see that it recommends spreading Democracy in these Muslim countries to curb terrorism, which is EXCATLY WHAT BUSH IS DOING.
You guys can't even have an honest intellectual discussion about what's right in front of you face.
33. Posted by kirktoe | September 26, 2006 8:24 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 20:24
34. Posted by clay | September 26, 2006 8:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Keep up the good fight.
You'd better, 'cause y'all got bitch-slapped on the Bush & Karzai show today.
34. Posted by clay | September 26, 2006 8:25 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 20:25
35. Posted by Steve | September 26, 2006 8:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
You can email President Bush, VP Cheney, Congressional Leaders & Rush Limbaugh from my homepage... Check it out here.......
http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/8889
35. Posted by Steve | September 26, 2006 8:35 PM |
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Posted on September 26, 2006 20:35
36. Posted by Brian | September 26, 2006 8:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actuall, if these idiots on the left will actually READ the entire first page of the document they would see that it recommends spreading Democracy in these Muslim countries to curb terrorism, which is EXCATLY WHAT BUSH IS DOING.
Actually, if you would read the rest of the document, you would see that it concludes that Bush is currently failing at those tasks.
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