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Thank You, Mike Gallagher

Like vultures and jackals around a corpse, the mad pack calling themselves Westboro Baptist declared that they would be protesting at the funerals of several Amish schoolgirls murdered in Pennsylvania. How anyone could be so craven and evil as to play such an event for publicity is beyond even my normally active imagination, but the bottom line is that Mike Gallagher stepped in and made a deal - if the group would promise - in writing - not to picket the funerals of these innocent girls, he would turn over an hour of his nationally-broadcast radio show to the group. The group accepted, and so far appear to have honored their word, such as it is.

I heard some of that hour this morning, and have no intention of spreading the hate and bile which the Phelps klan was pushing this morning. But I did want to thank Mister Gallagher for his action to save the families grief and anger from these monsters. I also found it interesting to see how these "Christians" have walled off everything in the Bible and the life example of Jesus Christ, except what they could spin to fit their opinion. God in a box, if you will.

The Westboro Baptist bunch basically are Old Testament types - if by that I eliminate everything in the Old Testament except threats and punishment. Not a very joyful lot, they seem. One theme which the lead spokeswoman tossed out - all I will say about her, and all you need to know to catch her base of experience is that she is a daughter of Fred Phelps, well known for condemnation of anyone not just like himself - was the separation between Jacob and Esau. She could play that, because not too many people these days have read the Bible, especially the OId Testament. They might remember something about God saying He loved Jacob and hated Esau. But the woman was wrong.

Jacob was not, to be blunt, a very nice man. He coerced his brother into selling him his birthright by refusing to let him have food until he gave over the right to the family name, even though he knew his brother was starving. Then later when it was time to claim the birthright, Jacob confirmed his dishonesty by posing as his brother in order to deceive his blind father. After getting what he wanted, Jacob ran away. Real class, eh? By the way, this is all in Genesis Chapters 25 through 27. So put away this idea that Jacob was a righteous man.

What happened, in short, was that Jacob's crime made Esau angry and he turned from God, exemplified by marrying a woman he knew his father would dislike, a daughter of Ishmael (Genesis 28:9). Jacob, on the other hand finally turned to God - ever wonder what that wrestling in Chapter 32 was about? - and returned to face Esau and the consequences of his sin.

But contrary to what many might think, God also touched Esau, for when he met Jacob again, Esau neither attacked him nor condemned him, but ran and hugged his brother Jacob (Genesis 33:4). Through the grace of God, sin was forgiven and the brothers restored. That verse about God hating? That's from Romans 9:13, where God warned "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated". Loved and hated as in past-tense, the whole book of Romans is about forgiveness and living in hope and love. Sad to think these "Christians" are ignoring amazing examples of Christ-like behavior in those very Amish they thought to torment, but it is an important lesson for the rest of us to observe.


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"well known for condemnatio... (Below threshold)
Jon:

"well known for condemnation of anyone not just like himself"

Don't kid yourself, if Fred Phelps really met himself, he'd condemn him too.

A leader of that protest gr... (Below threshold)
Palmateer:

A leader of that protest group appeared last night on Fox's Hannity & Colmes, and acted like a raving loony.

Hannity has these people on... (Below threshold)
groucho:

Hannity has these people on often. I think it's because that, next to them, his own disengenuous, intellectually dishonest screeching seems sane and reasonable by comparison.

These guys make me embarras... (Below threshold)
Scott:

These guys make me embarrassed to be from Kansas. Sometimes I think they should get all the attention they want because then people could see how disgusting thier preachings are. No difference between these guys and the "convert or die" muslims in my book.

Other times, I think we should never let them have any attention what-so-ever. It seems a lot of thier funding comes from lawsuits directed at people who they have managed to enrage via thier diatribe. If I remember correctly, there are less than two dozen of these zealots, and several are lawyers

I've never had a real sky-h... (Below threshold)

I've never had a real sky-high opinion of Mike Gallagher. His show too often goes from supporting Bush to being an outright stooge. But this was a marvelous thing he did, saving that poor Amish community the anguish of having these self-righteous vultures ruin their children's funeral. Hat's off to him!

As for today's show, I lasted about five sentences before I popped in a cd.

Is it wrong for me as a Chr... (Below threshold)
John F Not Kerry:

Is it wrong for me as a Christian to wish physical (nonlethal) violence on these people whenever they show up at a funeral to bring up an issue that has nothing to do with the deceased?

Fred Phelps and his ilk are... (Below threshold)
Bob Jones:

Fred Phelps and his ilk are NOT Christians. They are evil assholes, plain and simple. They will be visiting Sadamm, Adolf, & Uncle Joe in Hell soon enough.

Want to make clear that Fre... (Below threshold)
Mike:

Want to make clear that Fred Phelps is a Democrat. See: ww.motherjones.com/news/feature/1999/03/lauerman.html

grouchy,Pot, meet ... (Below threshold)
Sheik Yur Bouty:

grouchy,

Pot, meet kettle.

> ... and made a deal - if ... (Below threshold)
Arthur:

> ... and made a deal - if the group would promise - in writing - not to picket the funerals of these innocent girls, he would turn over an hour of his nationally-broadcast radio show to the group. The group accepted, and so far appear to have honored their word, such as it is.

A prediction. Having accepted this concession, Phelp's gang will be emboldened. They will look for more places or events to threaten to carry out their outrageous protests. They'll expect more deals and concessions not to carry them out the protests.


Making deals with terrorists doesn't work.

I would love to be on the j... (Below threshold)
Jack Burton:

I would love to be on the jury if someone happened, and I don't condone it, to kill one of these assholes. Uh, not guilty your honor.

I'm with Arthur on this. Wh... (Below threshold)
TomH:

I'm with Arthur on this. What nexr will they want? Who next will expect concessions?

I for one do not ... (Below threshold)

I for one do not thank Mr. Gallagher. The reason can be found in this article "Giving In To Terrorism: Mike Gallagher, Westboro Baptist Church, and the Amish Innocents"

It may very well seem like ... (Below threshold)
cjhill:

It may very well seem like Mister Gallagher 'gave in' to the lunatics, but in this case, it was for all the right reasons.

No parent who is in the middle of burying a murdered child should have to deal with those loons.

The Amish are isolated from people like them. Can you image the effect that protest would've had on them, with no basis of understanding that they are an in-bred group of morons and hate-mongers?

Mister Gallagher did the right thing.

So do the Patroit Riders who help the military families.

cjhill

I have no such reservations... (Below threshold)
steve body:

I have no such reservations about wishing harm upon another human being. I'm a realist and that leads me to the inescapable conclusion that violence will occur and that it all to often happens to people who clearly don't deserve it (see Amish schoolgirls). If this phenomenon of atrocity and carnage is a fact of life and we cannot, in fact, simply by our common will, abolish it summarily, then I actively wish it upon human flotsam like Fred "Numbnuts" Phelps and his ridiculous pack of Stuff That Collects In The Bottom Of Drains. Karmic readjustment ought to dictate that, at some point, some sleazebag like Fun Freddie should get mowed down by one of the Dahmers or Klebolds of the world, rather than the worthwhile, virtuous, contributing members of society who always seem to be the ones who are thrown under the Cosmic Bus. When was the last time you read about the victim of some heinous murder about whom the surviving members of his circle of friends said, "Well, he was a tin-plated son of a bitch and I wouldn't have pissed on him if he were set fire but it's too bad what happened to him."? No, it's always the scout leader or the woman who volunteers at the community center. Screw that. I'm praying for a small, selective tornado to plow through the Westboro Baptist Church this weekend. That would reaffirm my faith.

Vultures is too mild in dis... (Below threshold)
spurwing plover:

Vultures is too mild in discribing low life like them frankly i would like to see their rotten protest get rained on with lightning scaring these reptiles




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