LGF links to Iain Dale who is reporting the following:
Last week, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner addressed the Reform Club Media Group. Nothing like the 'establishment' sticking together is there? The meeting was conducted under Chatham House rules, which mean that no one attending is supposed to divulge what is said. But one person present was so appalled at Sir Ian's attitude and authoritarian stance that he has revealed to me an alarming - and seemingly off the cuff - remark made by Sir Ian at the event.The rest of the report is about the possibility of the institution of internment in the UK. From my reading of the statements, I think the reference to internment was just to make the point that the threat discussed was incredibly appalling and barbaric, and would elicit a much stronger reaction from the public than previous terrorist acts had, rather than to be an indication that internment would actually be considered by the government. What I focused on in this story was the words "truly appalling act of terror." Scary.Sir Ian said the British people should 'brace themselves for a truly appalling act of terror'. He said that following this act of barbarism 'people would be talking quite openly about internment', giving the impression that he would be leading the pro-internment lobby. No doubt he will find a willing supplicant in the tougher than tough Home Secretary John Reid.




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What?! No condemnation of t... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 3:19 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What?! No condemnation of the leaker?!
1. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 3:19 AM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 03:19
2. Posted by Lorie Byrd | October 9, 2006 3:30 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
None unless something more was leaked than what I saw in that report. I don't see how anything in that leak could endanger security. The nature of the threat was not specific enough.
2. Posted by Lorie Byrd | October 9, 2006 3:30 AM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 03:30
3. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 12:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well, that's not your call, is it? Just because you don't see a national security risk isn't the issue. Rules are rules, and leaks are leaks. Or is it now OK to leak if the leaker and their audience don't see anything wrong with it?
3. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 12:38 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 12:38
4. Posted by Heralder | October 9, 2006 12:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Brian:
Actually, it is the issue, Brian. If the leak is harmless then who is to condemn it?
Responsible people get upset when leaks compromise security, your little rule saying a leak about Tom Cruise's love life is equal to a leak about the Swift program is beyond laughable.
But, if that's how you feel about it, you should have been first in line saying the leaks in our government were wrong, not that you had a right to know the information was leaked.
4. Posted by Heralder | October 9, 2006 12:59 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 12:59
5. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 2:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Tom Cruise? What the heck are you talking about? Hitting the sauce a little early, are we?
Responsible people get upset when leaks compromise security
Yep. And irresponsible people get upset when leaks don't compromise security.
5. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 2:30 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 14:30
6. Posted by Jim Addison | October 9, 2006 3:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Brian, are you a real moron, or do you just play one on the internet?
This meeting was a journalists' briefing. The breach of their "rules" of confidentiality is NOTHING like revealing classified national security information.
How dumb does one have to be to fail to see the difference?
6. Posted by Jim Addison | October 9, 2006 3:13 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 15:13
7. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 4:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
First of all, it was a government official, speaking under the expectation of confidentiality. that's a little bit more than a "journalist's briefing".
However, you are correct, of course. I was just playing along with these others whose first reaction was that their opinion of the impact of the leak was the guiding principle.
7. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 4:03 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 16:03
8. Posted by Synova | October 9, 2006 5:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Okay, I'll condemn the leaker.
If nothing is supposed to be divulged it's so people can speak freely. What it sounds like to me is that the "appalled" person saw an opportunity to make a political point (so-and-so favors internment) in a situation where no transcript will be made public and the charge can not be refuted.
What amazes me is that it's the *job* of those in positions of responsibility to consider worst case eventualities and even make contingency plans for them. They need to be able to talk about possible public reactions and public demands. It has nothing to do with favoring or *wanting* those things to happen.
8. Posted by Synova | October 9, 2006 5:41 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 17:41
9. Posted by Francis W. Porretto | October 9, 2006 5:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Let's get on point here: if the predicted appalling act of terror should occur, would internment of the entire population of British Muslims, whether temporary or in contemplation of exiling the lot, be 1) popular, 2) justified, 3) performed?
I hope the answers are yes, yes, and yes. What say you all?
9. Posted by Francis W. Porretto | October 9, 2006 5:51 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 17:51
10. Posted by Synova | October 9, 2006 7:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think the details would matter.
10. Posted by Synova | October 9, 2006 7:47 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 19:47
11. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 8:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Definitely. Support for internment would be way different if it was a single large target vs. every third apartment building exploding.
11. Posted by Brian | October 9, 2006 8:08 PM |
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Posted on October 9, 2006 20:08