I'm glad to see Republican'ts are taking NoKo seriously, and not just using the situation to play politics with American voters.

heh.

How long before Monica Lewinsky is mentioned?

5--4--3--2...

Well, Lee, it looks like you were the first to bring Ms Lewinsky up. Congratulations; now you have no reason whatsoever to whine if this conversation disintegrates to Clinton-bashing.

Let me nip this one in the bud immediately. This thread is about NoKo and nukes. Ms. Lewinsky is completely off topic, Lee.

once again America's enemies take up the Democrat talking points......"direct talks"

lets see, our insane enemies want something and the democrats will bend over backwards to give it to them

Glad to hear it Kim. It's also about politics, judging from your repeated efforts to make this issue an election issue instead of just about "NoKo and nukes".

"As long as civilized nations fail to present a unified front, we can only rely on the personal courage and moral clarity of leaders like George W. Bush and Tony Blair. But we cannot be sure that we will always be led by men and women of their caliber: Blair is leaving office within a year, and Bush in two years."

Bush failed to gain a unified front going into Iraq, and the actions of the United States since that time have only served to alienate and distance our allies further.

Bush's incomentence over the last 6 years have lead us to the brink of disaster AGAIN here with North Korea, and all the Republican'ts can do is whine and complain that's it's Clinton's and Carter's fault --

-- conveniently ignoring the fact that Bush has had six years in which to do nothing production and constructive regarding NoKo - and he succeeded remarkably, again.

Proliferation is inevitible and has never been thwarted for long. The United States would be better off investing time and money into things like more subtle and pervasive technology for detecting radiation and a more powerful human intelligence presence around the world to hopefully fight back against these things being smuggled in. The latter is the most important because we can at least find out who smuggled the weapon in and go after their state sponsor. I doubt Iran would use nuclear terrorist proxies if their leadership knew that we would respond with a dozen nuclear bombs hitting Iran in strategic locations.

As to the lone nutjobs? Nothing has stopped them except field work. Aum Shinryoko's gas attack wasn't prevented, and neither would most acts of terrorism. By the time that "counter-terrorist" forces are reacting, it's too late.

North Korea was provided with billion of dollars, ripped from the American public, in the 90's. Plenty of pictures on the net of Kim and Madam NotAllTooBright toasting the transfer of the money. The people of NK were not fed with the money, but we are now facing a nuclear weapon bought and paid for by the Slick Willie Administration with the assistance of Dimmy Carter. They used your money, not theirs.

Slick and Algore also sold China the most advanced missile guidance system in the world for a few dollars in campaign donations.

Now we are facing a nuclear bomb built with our money and it will be delivered on a missile guided by our own guidance system. Ain't life sweet?

Sicne the poor widdle Republicans are lamenting the fact that Bush and Blair now stand alone, let's take a look at why -- why don't other nations stand united with us?

Regarding the North Korea situation - here's a review from around the world.

The Financial Times (UK) says the test shows a sign of U.S. weakness.

"That five years later, North Korea has tested a nuclear weapon will be widely interpreted as a sign of the failure of the tougher approach favoured by the Bush team."

The Sydney Morning Herald (Australia) says the move is a huge embarrassment for the United States

"Intent on showing it was tougher than the Clinton administration, which accepted a North Korean nuclear freeze in 1994, the Bush team's effort has been counterproductive."

The Globe and Mail (Canada)

"U.S. President George W. Bush, faced with the failure of an ongoing diplomatic effort to stare down the unpredictable North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il, seemed to retreat to a new line in the sand."

AFP (France) writes

"As opposition Democrats hammered the Bush administration's North Korea policy, seeking an edge in November 7 legislative elections, senior Bush foreign policy aides sought to line up global support."

The Times of India writes "Kooky Kim gives U.S. the heebie-jeebies"

". . . "Kooky Kim," Communist North Korea's leader who gives American officials the creeps. It's hard to separate fact from fiction (or friction) in what Washington serves up about Kim Jong II."

The International Herald Tribune (France, Europe) has an analysis piece

four weeks before a critical national election, President George W. Bush and his aides never gave as much priority to countering a new era of proliferation as they did to overthrowing Saddam Hussein.

"Bush and his aides contend that Iraq was the more urgent threat, in a volatile neighborhood. But the North's reported nuclear test now raises the question of whether it is too late for the president to make good on his promise that he would never let the world's "worst dictators" obtain the world's most dangerous weapons."

from China (Xinhua)

"The Chinese Foreign Ministry [is] calling for calm responses from all parties concerned and urging them to stick to the policy of a peaceful resolution of the issue through dialogues and consultations."

Republicans have made our country the laughing stock of the world, and greatly increased the danger to Americans at home and abroad.

It's time for a change.

So let me see if I have this right: Lee's pissed because Bush did little or nothing to confront a problem that was exascerbated by the Clinton Administration's willingness to appease and placate a mad regime with money for aid that ended up being used King Jong Mentally Ill for a nuke program.

I think I have that right.

It's time for a change. -Lee

Yes, Lee, clearly it is time for your nappy to be changed. It's chaffing, and the rash is making you quite whiny.

So the pot bellied madman with bad hair wants to put a nuclear weapon (another dud I presume) on a missile that will explode at 5,000 feet. Maybe, he needs a demonstration of what a working nuke looks like.

USA World Police.

It ought to amaze me but it doesn't. Bush is ripped up one side and down the other for failing to play nice with others. In North Korea he's insisted that it be a joint effort. But when it comes time to lay blame... well let's blame America.

Bush was right then and still right now to insist that North Korea not be framed as a two nation issue. That is and still is as important as it ever was. We've *tried* to make sure that Iran is not framed as a two nation issue. Fact is, no one else is even a little bit willing to take responsibility. So who effing cares? If no one else cares that North Korea has nukes or Iran has nukes... why in the name of heaven should we even bother?

And *why* should we act like we're responsible?

And when we do take responsibility we're gonna get reamed for it because the only way to make another nation not do what they want to do is to MAKE them not do it. That means armies and as we all know "war never solves anything."

Bush should announce our new nuclear prolifigation policy, a nuke in every back-yard, no despot is too small, student loans available.

Great idea Synova, And We should arm each and every one of them to automatically detonate within 3 seconds of a launch attempt.

I love it.

Hut-o looks like old "pucker puss" (lee lee) has come down with a bad case of "linkitis". You reckon he is hanging around "mun-go" (linkman) to much?